Re: Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-24 Thread Roger Clough
the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-22, 15:49:55 Subject: Re: Does Platonia exist ? On 22 Sep 2012, at 11:25, Roger Clough wrote: ROGER: Hi Bruno Marchal I think we should only use the word exists only when we are referring

Re: Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-24 Thread Roger Clough
the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-22, 15:40:12 Subject: Re: Does Platonia exist ? On 9/22/2012 5:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Alberto G. Corona If we can define what we are talking about, most of our problems will be solved

Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Sep 2012, at 12:32, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal But R^3 is not extended in spacetime, is not at location r at time t and isn't a physical but a mental object What makes you sure that the physical is not a mental object? I would say rather that R^3 inheres. Not sure

Re: Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-24 Thread Roger Clough
the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-24, 09:03:42 Subject: Re: Does Platonia exist ? On 24 Sep 2012, at 12:32, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal But R^3 is not extended in spacetime, is not at location r at time t and isn't a physical

Re: Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-22 Thread Roger Clough
ROGER: Hi Bruno Marchal I think we should only use the word exists only when we are referring to physical existence. BRUNO: Hmm That might aggravate the naturalist or materialist human penchant. ROGER: Why ? Naturalist and materialist entities are extended and so physically exist.

Re: Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-22 Thread Roger Clough
: Does Platonia exist ? Hi, Anyone serious about knowing truths must either spend its life trying to define the concept of existence and fighting for it or? to discard it for all uses. The concept of phisical exsitence has a primitive utilitary nature: ?re there men in the other side

Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/22/2012 5:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Alberto G. Corona If we can define what we are talking about, most of our problems will be solved. That is why I believe we ought to use the Descartes-Leibniz definition of physical existence as that which is in spacetime (is extended). Thus the

Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Sep 2012, at 11:25, Roger Clough wrote: ROGER: Hi Bruno Marchal I think we should only use the word exists only when we are referring to physical existence. BRUNO: Hmm That might aggravate the naturalist or materialist human penchant. ROGER: Why ? Naturalist and materialist

Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Sep 2012, at 12:21, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal I think we should only use the word exists only when we are referring to physical existence. Hmm That might aggravate the naturalist or materialist human penchant. Thus I can truthfully say, for example, that God

Re: Does Platonia exist ?

2012-09-21 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Hi, Anyone serious about knowing truths must either spend its life trying to define the concept of existence and fighting for it or to discard it for all uses. The concept of phisical exsitence has a primitive utilitary nature: Are there men in the other side of the mountain?. This urgent need to