Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 02:06:23PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 3:03:11 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > Can't you appreciate the humor? AG > > > > No -

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 3:03:11 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > Can't you appreciate the humor? AG > > No - it came across as obtuse. If it was meant to be humour, it backfired. > Be honest. Even if

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/7/2018 1:16 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: When I was a Branch Head there was a sign on the wall above my desk.  It read:  THERE IS NO "THEY". The meaning being "no alien visitations"?  And you know that how? Woman's intuition?  AG Meaning that whatever "they" you had

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can't you appreciate the humor? AG No - it came across as obtuse. If it was meant to be humour, it backfired. -- Dr Russell Standish

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:44:05 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:16:29PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > When I was a Branch Head there was a sign on the wall above

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:16:29PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > When I was a Branch Head there was a sign on the wall above my desk. It > > read: THERE IS NO "THEY". > > > > The meaning being "no alien

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 7:49 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:49:20 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-06 Thread David Nyman
On 4 Jan 2018 20:16, "Lawrence Crowell" wrote: On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:44:26 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:11:28 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:44:26 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:11:28 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Insofar as you proceed from ignorance by

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:11:28 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> Insofar as you proceed from ignorance by refusing to view a short video, >> you have the mistaken impression that those

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Insofar as you proceed from ignorance by refusing to view a short video, > you have the mistaken impression that those witnesses find some religious > solace in their belief of an alien visitation. Anyway, who

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 5:20:32 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:02:25 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:02:25 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell <

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/3/2018 7:49 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 7:49 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> That program has been revealed to be

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: That program has been revealed to be the child of Harry Reid, Senator from Nevada. At the request of

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 4:45:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 10:00 AM, John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >> >> >>> ​>> ​ >>> **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:02:25 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> ​> ​ >>> We may in fact be little more

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > That program has been revealed to be the child of Harry Reid, Senator from >> Nevada. At the request of Bigelow, who is advancing the idea of big >> inflated habitable

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 6:50:39 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 2:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > Finding absolutely no life elsewhere in the universe might in some ways be > useful and interesting in itself. > > > Proving a negative over an infinite field sounds like a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 2:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: Finding absolutely no life elsewhere in the universe might in some ways be useful and interesting in itself. Proving a negative over an infinite field sounds like a fools errand. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: ​> ​ > It doesn't have to be a disaster. It might just be that the lesson of > relativity becomes widely appreciated, that the universe is large and the > speed limit is low. > To a super civilization one von ​ Neumann

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 9:33 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable >>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 10:00 AM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, > wrote: On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: ​>> ​ **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE IS THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC/CREDIBLE

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 9:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell >wrote: ​> ​ We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable fluke

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: That program has been revealed to be the child of Harry Reid, Senator from Nevada. At the request of Bigelow, who is advancing the idea of big inflated habitable modules in space, this program germinated. Bigelow is interested

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable >> fluke

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable >> fluke

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:00:51 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >> >> >>> ​>> ​ >>> **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE IS THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC/CREDIBLE EVIDENCE

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: > > >> ​>> ​ >> **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE IS THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC/CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THERE >> IS. >> > > ​> ​ > Brilliant. Incredibly brilliant. Thank you. AG > ​I

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > ​> ​ > We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable > fluke . > ​There is a excellent talk on that very subject at :​

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:28:18 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:54:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 2,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:54:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Telmo Menezes
https://xkcd.com/1235/ On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Zachary Smith
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/2/2018 3:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I think you are assuming the simulation can be deterministic...which it can't. I make no assumptions on this.  Watching life on any random planet evolve should be as illuminating as wandering the cosmos to happen upon a random planet with

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/2/2018 9:01 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> >> >> On 1/1/2018 3:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:56

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/2/2018 9:01 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 1/1/2018 3:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Lawrence Crowell

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/1/2018 3:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Lawrence Crowell < > goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:14:35 AM UTC-6, Russell Standish

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 9:03:39 AM UTC-6, smitra wrote: > > On 02-01-2018 01:20, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:30:27 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Lawrence Crowell > >> wrote: > >> > >> On

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread smitra
On 02-01-2018 01:20, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:30:27 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:14:35 AM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote:On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 6:46:07 PM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote: > > Lying is not the only explanation for these witness statements. What > these witnesses saw may well have explanations other than ET. One of > my favourites, though obviously rather implausible, is that they are > time

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:16 AM, wrote: > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:48:54 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/1/2018 4:16 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/1/2018 4:16 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Russell Standish
Lying is not the only explanation for these witness statements. What these witnesses saw may well have explanations other than ET. One of my favourites, though obviously rather implausible, is that they are time travellers of some future type of human checking us out. More likely it is some form

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:30:27 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:14:35 AM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >>> >>> I know a good deal about physics and a good deal about

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > >> >> I know a good deal about physics and a good deal about people's tendency >> to prevaricate. I see no reason to set any of that aside. If I did

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/1/2018 6:36 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:14:35 AM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > In fact,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/1/2018 6:36 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:14:35 AM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the >

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Russell Standish > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? >> > > ​That is a excellent question! I don't need the

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Russell Standish > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? >> > > ​That is a excellent question! > Obvious to a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > ​> ​ > What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? > ​That is a excellent question! I don't need the Everything List to read about flying saucers, I can pick up a tabloid newspaper at the

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:14:35 AM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the > > incident at Roswell was a balloon from Project Mogul. But the

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:14:35 AM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the > > incident at Roswell was a balloon from Project Mogul. But the

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the > incident at Roswell was a balloon from Project Mogul. But the video > convinced me otherwise. AG What did you find so convincing? My scepticism is

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 10:02:22 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:19:38 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 12/31/2017 5:07 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:47:31 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:19:38 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/31/2017 5:07 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:47:31 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 04:39:08PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > TL; DW?

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:18:35 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > It was a test to loft equipment up into the atmosphere to conduct INTEL on > Russia. It was not an alien spacecraft. Please get real. > > LC > We have a difference of opinion. I find the witnesses completely

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/31/2017 5:07 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:47:31 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 04:39:08PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > TL; DW? > Read the Wiki link. Fermi found it contradictory that with so

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Lawrence Crowell
It was a test to loft equipment up into the atmosphere to conduct INTEL on Russia. It was not an alien spacecraft. Please get real. LC On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 7:56:26 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:11:17 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote:

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe you should retire from > > your quest for knowledge. AG > > 15 minutes of undirected

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe you should retire from > > your quest for knowledge. AG > > 15 minutes of undirected

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:11:17 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > The fact these people were assigned to intelligence indicates something. > This was a balloon crash. The balloon though carried a payload that was > highly classified. It contained detectors and instruments that

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe you should retire from > your quest for knowledge. AG 15 minutes of undirected "there is something in this 15 minutes of video that I *think* will change your mind

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Lawrence Crowell
The fact these people were assigned to intelligence indicates something. This was a balloon crash. The balloon though carried a payload that was highly classified. It contained detectors and instruments that might detect whether the USSR detonated an atomic bomb. They had not done so up to that

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:47:31 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 04:39:08PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > TL; DW? > > Read the Wiki link. Fermi found it contradictory that with so many > presumed > > intelligent civilizations in our galaxy, we

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 04:39:08PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > TL; DW? > Read the Wiki link. Fermi found it contradictory that with so many presumed > intelligent civilizations in our galaxy, we have received no visitations. > But we have! > Why do you have trouble connecting simple

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
TL; DW? Read the Wiki link. Fermi found it contradictory that with so many presumed intelligent civilizations in our galaxy, we have received no visitations. But we have! Why do you have trouble connecting simple dots? AG On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote:

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Russell Standish
TL; DW. What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 09:06:44PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qflfM4DITeU > --