RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not there. This one I have to do in-line. First of all, I've seen plenty of statements by people who accurately depict reasons that your opinion is bunk. You've either not read or not comprehended them. No one in 8 years has

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-17 Thread Greg Deckler
Then tell people to quit bringing it up. Then quit beating this dead horse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise

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2003-12-17 Thread Boyd, Nathan
Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Then tell people to quit bringing it up. Then quit beating this dead horse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2003-12-16 Thread Greg Deckler
Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

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2003-12-16 Thread Bart Southworth
PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion is absurd because it is fundamentally understood that anything

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2003-12-16 Thread Ben Schorr
This is the most very basic definition of conflict of interest. One cannot serve two masters. If you have been given something, and ESPECIALLY if it is something significant that can be taken away, then it presents a conflict of interest. This, from an ethical, perspective is wrong. The

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2003-12-16 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I will state this again for the 11 millionth and 1 time now. Accepting direct gifts from third parties, especially significant gifts such as large dollar items and titles, presents a real or perceived conflict of interest between an IT professional's client

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2003-12-15 Thread Erik Sojka
::dresses up like Abraham Lincoln and shoots Don:: -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original Message- From

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2003-12-15 Thread Greg Deckler
In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion is absurd because it is fundamentally understood that anything that comes out of anyone's mouth is simply an opinion and not a fact. In my opinion,

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2003-12-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
My head hurts. That's a fact From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:50:03 -0800 In my opinion, there are those with the opinion

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2003-12-15 Thread Eric Fretz
: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion

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2003-12-15 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion is absurd because

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2003-12-13 Thread Eric Fretz
6.5 We have a love connection!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Pickens Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Hi Neighbor, I'm just over a ways, off of I75

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2003-12-13 Thread Eric Fretz
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent

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2003-12-13 Thread Eric Fretz
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 This from

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2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
GD - it simply isn't done in professional circles Isn't done? Don't US companies sponsor university posts in the USA? They certainly do here in the UK. If someone sticks the MVP title in their sig I know the deal and can factor it my opinion forming process, it's open. As a browser, lurker

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2003-12-12 Thread Jason Clishe
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Yes, you certainly schooled me. You are so very witty and clever I could never hope to compete with such a superior intellect. An AOL reference? Paaaleeeze. I get along with my coworkers just fine, thanks for your concern. Value is irrelevant, hence the point about

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2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already, everyone. If anyone wants

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Aflac!! -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto

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2003-12-12 Thread John Parker
of Line--- -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto

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2003-12-12 Thread Mellott, Bill
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already, everyone

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2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Now THAT's funny. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already

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2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
6.5 Now THAT's funny. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already

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2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
That is not funny Haiku is for more than that I think I need beer -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further

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2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
Tears freeze as they fall. A saint upon a high horse, Is tall but smells bad. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2003 17:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further

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2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Of course, everything I say is my opinion. That's how

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2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already

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2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Of course, everything I say is my opinion. That's how it works. _ List posting

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2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not hold you or anyone in contempt. I believe that your actions are wrong and hurt

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2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
11, 2003 5:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Well, our recollections are different. My recollection is that the MVP's swore up and down that they did not get compensated. I may have missed something in the deluge of postings and it was quite a while ago so I

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2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
I was going to ask what form this compensation took. So it's on the level of the free pens the drugs companies give to doctors rather than being so much greater than the salary your employer pays that your loyalty lies utterly with Microsoft then? *Phew* Also, can I say again that

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2003-12-12 Thread Rachel Pickens
is very consistently inconsistant in his logic. Its raining here too Rachel -Original Message- From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I was going to ask what form

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2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shotton Jolyon Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I was going to ask what form this compensation took. So it's on the level of the free pens the drugs companies give to doctors

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2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Anything that is not a fact is an opinion. It will never be a fact that MVP's are unethical, because not everyone is going to agree on it and there is no physical proof either way. No, you can make a statement as a fact or as an opinion. It is how you

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2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Anything

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2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Jolyon, This Greg doesn't see it that way... He thinks the pens and mousepads are evil, and will corrupt you. But note, he he thinks utility software

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2003-12-12 Thread Rachel Pickens
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I am owned by my MSDN cd cases and Microsoft pens. Long live the overlord! It's raining here (Dallas, TX), too. (A very wet) Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
We have a love connection!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Pickens Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Hi Neighbor, I'm just over a ways, off of I75

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Or is it... The LOVE Boat... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We're expecting YOU... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 We have a love

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Ok, so who plays Capt. Stubin? :p -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU

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2003-12-12 Thread Candee Vaglica
You guys crack me up. =) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ok, so who plays Capt

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
, 2003 4:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You guys crack me up. =) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original Message

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
You want to complain? Fine, your Charo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original Message

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2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
Good choice. The doctor has the same hairline and legs as you. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Who the hell was that? I don't remember no Charo! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You want to complain? Fine, your Charo. -Original

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
You and Don should not be talking about hairlines -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Good choice. The doctor has

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
http://www.showtimemarketing.com/images/charo.jpg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Who the hell was that? I don't

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2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
Coochie Coochie! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 http://www.showtimemarketing.com/images/charo.jpg

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 This from the man with a really tall

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
This from the man with a really tall forehead and chicken legs... Who are you to talk? :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You and Don should

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Forehead = Pen... :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

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2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
, 2003 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions

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2003-12-12 Thread John Parker
PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 This from the man with a really tall forehead and chicken legs... Who

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2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
That's what they want you to believe... I think he preferred guys... That's why Martin wants to be the Doc... :P -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I

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2003-12-12 Thread Roger Seielstad
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 More of a fivehead eh? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

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2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 4-5 years. Ha! That puts you at around 1999-1998. This list has been around since 1994. This is a philosophical issue about ethics that has been raging for about 8 years or so. I specifically try to avoid the subject, but certain individuals can't

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2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Sure thing, Ed. My recollection is of MVP's stating things (and I'm paraphrasing because I'm doing

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2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Anything that is not a fact is an opinion. It will never be a fact that MVP's are unethical, because not everyone is going to agree

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2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ok, so who plays Capt. Stubin? :p -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk

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2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
No, you are the Capt. Don is Julie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Are you calling me a coke addict? Ed

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2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
, December 12, 2003 3:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 No, you are the Capt. Don is Julie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions

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2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's no lie! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I can't be the Captain because I don't look good in shorts. Ed

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2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I can't be the Captain because I don't look good in shorts. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2003-12-11 Thread Christopher Hummert
feel the need to respond? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Yes, I have a fundamental, philosophical problem

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2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Yes, I have a fundamental, philosophical problem with the MVP program. Regardless of any direct compensation in the form of nik naks, etc. the bestowing of honorary titles is a perk

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2003-12-11 Thread Eric Fretz
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Trouble you are not A wise man you are -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ruled what? For those of you who haven't

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2003-12-11 Thread Martin Blackstone
a suggestion to MS to add that to this new version. Just my two cents. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect

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2003-12-11 Thread Eric Fretz
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I think what is at issue here is that in the past you have spent time in this group bashing on the major posters, a number of which are MS MVP's. You insult us by calling us unethical as we have accepted small gifts from MS as part of our MVP status

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2003-12-11 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar
Sorry, all out. I have one hallelujah left though ...:-) It's nearly Christmas! Sander -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2003 03:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Can I get an Amen! Eric Fretz L-3

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2003-12-11 Thread Roger Seielstad
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 What next? Fighting words will begin with, My Exchange server and kick your Exchange server's a$$!? What have we become? Tomorrows news headline will read, When

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2003-12-11 Thread Roger Seielstad
- MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Sorry, all out. I have one hallelujah

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Winzenz
-- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Sorry, all out. I have one

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2003-12-11 Thread Pierre Plamondon
It is a very interesting to see all the respond to the initial question of Greg. Only 4 acceptable answer. How many time lose to read the scrap the other specialist!!!, for me this kind of list is to help anybody to find a solution for a particular problem. If a people can not help, please do

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I do not believe that I have ever bashed anyone. I have expressed my opinion. Honorary titles and gifts are a conflict of interest and hence not something that professional IT people should engage in, period. You can justify it all you want to yourself but it does not change the fact that it is a

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not believe that I have ever bashed anyone. I have expressed my opinion. Honorary titles and gifts are a conflict of interest and hence not something that professional IT people should engage in, period. You can justify it all you want to yourself but it does

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Yes, I have a fundamental, philosophical problem with the MVP program. Regardless of any direct compensation in the form of nik naks, etc. the bestowing of honorary titles is a perk and is more

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example of people picking fights just to pick fights. Let me break this down for you. 1. I

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I'm sorry. The title of this discussion list is Exchange Discussions, not Exchange Help Line. You are not the arbiter; I shall discuss what I choose to discuss. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not believe that I have ever bashed anyone. I have expressed my opinion. Honorary

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Facts are facts. Ok Mr. I help build this community, _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I do not hold you or anyone in contempt. I believe that your actions are wrong and hurt IT professionalism as a whole. My beliefs may be on the fringe, but that does not make them any less correct. I have never tried to offend, only to educate. I cannot help if people get offended, but it does

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example of people picking fights just to pick fights. Let me break

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
And fiction is fiction... Your point? -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Facts are facts. Ok Mr. I help build this community

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
Did ya hear that sound? It was a whoosh right over your head... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Huh? I'm sorry. The title of this discussion

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not believe that I have ever bashed anyone. I

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not hold you or anyone in contempt. I believe that your actions are wrong and hurt

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example of people

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Well, our recollections are different. My recollection is that the MVP's swore up and down that they did not get compensated. I may have missed something in the deluge of postings and it was quite a while ago so I may not have

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
, December 11, 2003 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Sure thing guy, the response did not follow the discussion thread. Did ya hear that sound? It was a whoosh right over your head... -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Eric Fretz
- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I do not hold you or anyone in contempt. I believe that your actions are wrong and hurt IT professionalism as a whole. My beliefs may

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
You meant morally-uptight right? :P -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 No, You are wrong. Explain to me how you can tell someone

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Christopher Hummert
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example of people picking fights just to pick fights. Let me break this down for you. 1. I posted a question

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
I did not say what you say I said. What I said was that, in my opinion, accepting honorary titles from vendors is a conflict of interest and something that should be avoided by those who are, or; technically, consider themselves, professional IT people. That is my opinion. And this is not just my

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
have had the need to fell like you had respond. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Here's a perfect example

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Christopher Hummert
Then why do it on the list? Why not e-mail Ed directly? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 All I was doing

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Deckler
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 All I was doing by responding was to attempt to get back to a common ground of civility. Honestly I wasn't trying to get in a fight. Getting into an internet fight is like

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