RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Dryden, Karen
We have 3. McAfee all the way. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email systems. My current

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread John Matteson
I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files with a file based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs for a long time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, etc) then the server starts working again when you take the product off, you should look at the

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
He did seem a bit defensive didn't he? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3

RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??

2003-08-21 Thread John Matteson
Depends on what you have set in the configuration. If you have it set to NOT look inside zip files, they come right through. I have it set to look inside the zip files and it rips out the blocked extensions, even when renamed. When user's complain about it, I tell them to Password Protect the zip

RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??

2003-08-21 Thread Mellott, Bill
You mean in Viruswall.. right cause I cant find any type setting in the IMSS product...and tech support was clueless on it bill -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SAV for

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Roger Seielstad
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Winzenz
Thanks, John. I didn't want to come across as harsh, I just wanted you to provide some reasoning for why you felt that way. I've seen so many posts here and elsewhere blindly recommending to folks that they should run eseutil and/or isinteg, etc., when the poster has no clue how powerful those

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
If that were the case Ben, those of us who run Symantec products both against the mailstore and as file based would have problems, would we not? No problems here... Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message-

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Winzenz
Bite me. If I told you that you should run eseutil on your databases just because I think your database is corrupt, without any reasoning why I thought it was corrupt, would you? I certainly won't. John responded to my response with what seemed to be a well though out answer. You, however,

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
What an asshole Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Tony Hlabse
Boy, I am going to have to say a Rosary for both you guys. From: Lawrence, Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:56:42 -0500 What an asshole Thank

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
You are right Tony, What I should have said is: Boy what a prick, *ploink* goes the asshole. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Roger Seielstad
I can say with absolute certainty that Ben is *not* an a-hole. He did learn a few too many things from me[1], but he's not an a-hole. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. [1] A few of which were

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
Well his attitude says otherwise. Very defensive to what seemed like a reasonable QUESTION, not a directive. When I noted that defensiveness he jumps down my throat? The world doesn't need any more loose cannons like this. I have ploinked the fool. Any further discussions about him can be

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Winzenz
So you don't think that a particular product can have problems on one system and not another? That's a pretty weak argument. I don't have any problems running it like this, so you shouldn't. Being a Network Administrator, you of all people should know that problems are sometimes hit and miss.

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Winzenz
What was a reasonable question? I totally missed that. John's original post said he thought I ought to consider running maintenance (usually eseutil or isinteg). No reasoning why. I don't like to run powerful maintenance tools against my server unless I have a good reason why. I asked John to

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Slinger, Gary
Observation: Messages in my Exch-Swynk folder since 2003-01-15: 8278 Posts from Ben Winzenz, mostly answering questions: 68 Posts from Mitchell Lawrence, just attacking Ben: 4 'nuff said. -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21,

RE: Items moving to deleted items folder

2003-08-21 Thread Mitchell Mike
There are no third party spam filters. The eMAILs are going to the deleted items folder unread and unopened. Thanks -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Items moving to deleted

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ely, Don
And we don't even want to get into my observation of the whole thing... FWIW Mitchell, one ought not act like an a$$ if one expects to be left alone. And I mean that in oh so many ways that you couldn't even begin to fathom... FWIW Ben, looks like you've got it covered, but lemme know if you

RE: Items moving to deleted items folder

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
I think what he meant was the setting under Tools, Options, Email Options, Tracking Options, Delete blank voting and meeting responses after processing (This is in Outlook 2002, but 98 should have something similar. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Moir
Well you certainly are persuasive. *plonk* -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 August 2003 14:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. What an asshole Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ely, Don
And so it begins... At least Robert spelled *plonk* correctly... G -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Well you certainly are persuasive. *plonk*

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Hutchins, Mike
lmao -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. And so it begins... At least Robert spelled *plonk* correctly... G -Original Message- From: Robert

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Moir
I try to lead by example. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 August 2003 15:31 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. And so it begins... At least Robert spelled *plonk* correctly... G -Original

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ely, Don
Mitchell seems to like leading with his arse... -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I try to lead by example. -Original Message- From:

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Aye Carumba! Don, I'd hate to have you or any one of about two dozen other people on this list mad at me. I think I'd just go unplug my whole network from the Internet, if I was ever stupid enough to let that happen! :0) -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Ely, Don
Moi? :P -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Aye Carumba! Don, I'd hate to have you or any one of about two dozen other people on this

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Yeah, Don isn't as quick as some to comment, but he can be pretty brutal when ho does. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3

PDF Digital Signature Corruption

2003-08-21 Thread Wall, Max
We are having problems sending certain PDF file attachment (~60kbytes) through Microsoft Exchange which have been digitally signed using Adobe Acrobat . When the attachment arrives at the destination and is opened in Acrobat the signature status is 'Signature invalid'. The problem is not

RE: Items moving to deleted items folder

2003-08-21 Thread Chris Scharff
Yeah, what he said. ;) -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:25 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Items moving to deleted items folder Subject: RE: Items moving to deleted items folder I think what he meant was the

RE: Items moving to deleted items folder

2003-08-21 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Just then? :=/ -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Items moving to deleted items folder Yeah, what he said. ;) -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: PDF Digital Signature Corruption

2003-08-21 Thread Ely, Don
Have you tried disabling Trend to see what effect that has? My WAG is that Trend is eating it during the scanning process... -Original Message- From: Wall, Max [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: PDF Digital Signature

RE: PDF Digital Signature Corruption

2003-08-21 Thread Wall, Max
Yep I initially thought it may be a virus checker. I've completely stopped all the Scan mail services and Symantec on the desktop and still getting the problem. Max -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 August 2003 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject:

RE: PDF Digital Signature Corruption

2003-08-21 Thread Tony Hlabse
What happens if you send it to yourself from the Exchange client. Which brings up another question, which client are you using? From: Wall, Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PDF Digital Signature

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Earle, Simon
This company has three levels of protection, it didn't stop Sobig getting in, but it has stopped it getting back out again! -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 August 2003 13:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I was

Upgrade from Exchange 5.5

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Kenavan
I currently have an exchange server running v5.5. I have the media to upgrade to v2k. Do I need to upgrade my NT4 boxes to 2k also? Any drawbacks if I don't? Also, I would like to set up a global customer contact list. Is that possible?

GFI Essentials free spam filter

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Blomquist
Has anyone had any experience with this product? It looks like enough for my org. I don't know that I need to subscribe to a blacklist but if I can create my own blacklist for my org it would be a good start. Robert Blomquist Supervisor of Information Technology

PDF Digital Signature Corruption

2003-08-21 Thread mwall
We are having problems sending certain PDF file attachment (~60kbytes) through Microsoft Exchange which have been digitally signed using Adobe Acrobat . When the attachment arrives at the destination and is opened in Acrobat the signature status is 'Signature invalid'. The problem is not

Where'd the setting go?

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Blomquist
Sorry if this is a duplicate, I received no confirmation that the first one went. I did receive a notice that it didn't like my subject Mail Delivery. On my Mail 55 server I could set Exchange to use DNS to resolve the remote server's address and send the message directly to that server AND

RE: Where'd the setting go?

2003-08-21 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
You are not crazy. =) The setting I believe you are looking for is under your System Manager, Administrative Groups, (first administrative group), Routing Groups, Connectors. If I read your message correctly, you want to create a connector to route email to specific domains through a relay that

RE: Upgrade from Exchange 5.5

2003-08-21 Thread Waters, Jeff
1st, why not skip Ex2K and go right to E2K3, while your at it go ahead and install Win2K3 2nd, get some books fast 3rd, Exchange 5.5 will run on Win2K or NT4.0 Exchange 2K will run on Win2K take a look at http://support.microsoft.com/?id=810591 for more information. Have fun

Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Exchange 5.5. We've been getting hammered by the SOBIG virus here. In the last hour both the systems that house our IMC failed on port 25 and I had to reboot. I pretty sure it's due to the flood of messages we are encountering. SOBIG count was 35,000 day before yesterday 45,000 yesterday.

RE: Where'd the setting go?

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Blomquist
That makes me feel better that someone else thinks it's there, too. Can you be a little more specific? I've already been into the properties for the SMTP connector about 50 times, hoping that the last 49 times I may have overlooked something. On the General tab I get the option to use DNS or

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Matt Plahtinsky
Do you have an SMTP gateway that you can use to filter out messages based on subject? -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG. Exchange

Re: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Andy David
Reason 25 why a SMTP gateway rocks. - Original Message - From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG. Exchange 5.5. We've been getting hammered

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Unfortunately no. -Original Message- From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG. Do you have an SMTP gateway that you can use to filter out messages based on subject?

RE: PDF Digital Signature Corruption

2003-08-21 Thread Roger Seielstad
IMS Properties, Internet Mail tab - make sure that the box for Clients Support S/MIME signatures is checked. You'll need a restart (of the IMS) if it isn't. Not sure if that will work, though - could be an encoding issue as well. --

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread John Matteson
I don't blindly recommend anything, except maybe my wife's three cheese pasta in a pot. But on the technical side of things, I had a BE installation that would pop up at times and fail a backup telling me the Exchange database was corrupted. Management told me to prove it using something else

Re: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Paul Hutchings
I'd stick my neck out and suggest xwall from www.dataenter.at, only costs around $300 and there's a demo so you can try it whilst you've the immediate problem to deal with. Other option is a *nix gateway, I'm a Windows person but found it pretty simple to set something up (what we currently use).

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
GFI has one you can use fully for about 60 days Joshua Morgan AIMCO W. 864 239-1015 -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG. I'd stick my

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Erick Thompson
What is a good/free *nix SMTP gateway? I've been looking into Exchange based spam and virus programs, but I'd also like to have another layer. I've been thinking about setting up a SMTP front end server to run spam-assassin, but not being a *nix guy, I don't know what other good programs are out

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread PF: Exchange
I'd stick my neck out and suggest xwall from www.dataenter.at, only costs around $300 and there's a demo so you can try it whilst you've the immediate problem to deal with. I'll second the Xwall suggestion. It's basically a SMTP relay with serious filtering and anti-spam features. It

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Moir
Its probably worth noting that installing the same scanner in 3 places is not 3 layers of protection, its the same layer of protection 3 times. Not quite the same thing. If your vendor's scanner engine has a problem picking up a certain type of malware, or their dat files are slow in coming,

Re: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Paul Hutchings
Try http://www.advosys.ca/papers/printable/postfix-filtering.html for a walkthru, it's what I followed some months back on a Redhat 8.0 box and it works a charm as a primary MX - I really can't overstate just how good it all is (spamassassin in particular) for free. The only free for commercial

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Matt Plahtinsky
Is Xwall installed on the exchange server or a gateway? If its on the exchange server then would it still solve his problem b/c mail is still hitting his server? -Original Message- From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:43 PM To: Exchange

Re: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Paul Hutchings
Either, we run it on our proxy, but I guess some places don't have multiple boxes so you can also run it on the exchange box on port 25 and have the IMS listen on port 24. I'm assuming it'd handle the load, we're a pretty small outfit in the grand scheme of things but it works fine for us, and

RE: Port 25 failing on IMC due to SOBIG.

2003-08-21 Thread Roger Seielstad
http://spamassassin.org/ -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:42 PM To: Exchange

E2K Routing Group Connector not working

2003-08-21 Thread takin
In the process of upgrading E5.5 to E2K. We have upgraded two remote offices and are about to do the corp office. There is a T-1 between corp and each of the two remote offices. No direct connection between remote offices. I created Routing Group connectors in each remote office pointing to a

Re: Outlook to Exchange over VPN issues

2003-08-21 Thread dng
FYI, I've seen instances where it was required to open up port TCP 135 in order to get the Outlook client to work. The problem is the new msblaster virus; it uses port 135. Dave _ List posting FAQ:

RE: Outlook to Exchange over VPN issues

2003-08-21 Thread Ely, Don
Huh? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Outlook to Exchange over VPN issues FYI, I've seen instances where it was required to open up port TCP 135 in order to get the

RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-21 Thread Veld, Paul
I don't blindly recommend anything, except maybe my wife's three cheese pasta in a pot...sounds good, can you send me some via email? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 4:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers

RE: Outlook to Exchange over VPN issues

2003-08-21 Thread Martin Blackstone
Sounds like BAS -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook to Exchange over VPN issues Huh? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: