Re: Offline Defrag

2002-06-06 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, at 8:00am, John Strange wrote:
 What are the best practices for doing an Offline defrag on Exchange 2000?

  Don't.

  The only exception if when you have just removed a large amount of mail
from a server (say, splitting up a server to two servers), and you need to
reclaim the space for other uses.  For best results, consider contacting
Microsoft PSS (Product Support Services) before attempting this anyway.

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RE: Group Mail

2002-05-22 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 22 May 2002, at 4:30pm, Thomas Di Nardo wrote:
 There is no excuse There is only Zuel.

  Don't cross the streams.

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Re: smtp - UDP, TCP, or IP?

2002-05-09 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 9 May 2002, at 6:35pm, Hansen, Eric wrote:
 As part of our access statement we used tcp permit for 110 and 25.  Well
 it turned out that by doing this mail came in but didn't go out.

  SMTP is TCP port 25.  SMTP does not use UDP, not is it an IP-layer
protocol.

  Make sure you have all the rules, and in all directions.  Maybe you are
accidentally blocking outbound TCP SYN packets on port 25?

  Also, if your default policy is to drop without reply, make sure you at
least send a TCP RST for connect attempts to TCP port 113, which is the
auth protocol (also called ident).  Many SMTP mail exchangers will do an
auth query, and if you just drop those packets on the floor, they may time
out or reject you.

  If all else fails, use a packet sniffer to see what is going over the
wire.

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Re: NNTP Service

2002-04-30 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, at 5:02pm, Awais Butt wrote:
 For the installation of Exchange 2000 Enterprise server I am trying to
 install nntp service under IIS 5.0 (Windows 2000 Server), it demands 2000
 server cd as well as file nntp_ddrop.dll but this file doesn't exist in
 the server cd.

  We had this problem.  I couldn't find that file anywhere.  I even tried
searching for it on the web, and found nothing.  This was a Dell server that
had been installed by Dell's OpenManage utility (kinda like Compaq's
SmartStart, except SmartStart at least works some of the time).  We had
already had a number of odd things happen, and this was the last straw.  We
nuked the install, and installed Win2K from the Microsoft CD, and things
worked fine.

  Not much of an answer, I know... :-(

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Re: Maximum No. of User in Exchange 2000 server.

2002-04-29 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, at 10:25am, Vijayakumar, T wrote:
 1.Maximum No of User in Exchange 2000 server.

  Practically unlimited.  There is some absurdly high limit, but I forget
what it is.  You will run out of disk/memory/CPU/usernames before you hit
it.  A better question is, How many users would you *want* on one Exchange
server?  Remember, if you have 50,000 users on a single server, and that
single server goes down for whatever reason, you now have 50,000 p*ssed off
users.

 2.Maximum user Mail box Size.

  See answer to question #1.

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RE: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)

2002-04-26 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 4:47pm, Stephen Mynhier wrote:
 I clicked Tool - Windows Update and then chose IE6
 No prompt
 No reboot

  Interesting.  It has always forced a reboot for me.  After it runs through
the update, I get a dialog box saying I should close all programs and click
the Finish button to complete installation.  The only button available is
that same Finish button.  As soon as I click Finish, it shuts down and
reboots the server.

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, at 1:00pm, Filipe Joel de Almeida wrote:
 Same here. I had to reboot my laptop (W2KPro) when installing IE6, but my
 server didn't ask me to. He DID ask me to reboot when upgraded from IE5.01
 to IE 5.5, but not when upgraded from 5.5 to 6.

  So, sometimes you have to reboot, and sometimes you do not.  Isn't that
special.

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Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)

2002-04-25 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 6:08pm, Stephen Mynhier wrote:
 Oh my God... That is absolutely amazing!  I managed to upgrade IE on my
 Win 2k Adv Server today without rebooting it!  I have accomplished the
 impossible!  We need a committee to study this!
 (get your facts straight)

  I would be happy to (get my facts straight, that is).  How do you do this?  
It always prompts me to reboot, and does even give me the option to reboot
later.

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VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-25 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
 I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but freeware
 still scares management around here (But who will you call for
 support?).

  http://www.tridia.com

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 11:58am, Roger Seielstad wrote:
 And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
 hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

  Can we keep the FUD off this list?  This is patently false.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 12:42pm, Roger Seielstad wrote:
 ... not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been
 available for 16 months ...

  You can upgrade the OS (sans the kernel) without rebooting Linux.

  (You cannot even upgrade the *web browser* without rebooting Windows.)

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Re: DNS behaviour with MX preferences...

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 10:50am, Adam Romain wrote:
 If mailgate1 is always available, will it be the only connector that takes
 the mail unless it has reached the maximum number of sessions ?

  In theory, yes.  In practice, always available is not a realistic
condition.  Some random mail exchanger on the Internet may have trouble
contacting mailgate1 for some reason unrelated to your systems, and end up
using mailgate2 instead.

 If mailgate1 is down, how quickly does the sending SMTP connector give up
 and try the next MX record pref, i.e immediately or after a certain retry
 parameter ?

  This is implementation-specific.  Most of the SMTP implementations I have
seen try the next MX immediately.

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Re: E-mail disclaimer

2002-04-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, at 1:43pm, Gagrani, Kishore wrote:
 We are a multinational company with head office in New Jersey . We are
 debating over enforcing the use of E-mail disclaimer (e.g.: The
 information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is provided in
 confidence.

  Ask a lawyer.

  Personally: The Internet is a public network.  Transmitting confidential
information over a public network raises questions about due diligence.  If
it is confidential, why do you send it via public network?

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Re: 2ND TRY: Changing Inet Mail Svc from dial-up to broadband...

2002-04-11 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, at 11:44am, Scott Brooks wrote:
 I've just inherited an exchange server at work.  It is v5.5 Build 2448.8
 SP2.  We've finally gotten a DSL connection, so I want to change our
 Internet Mail Service Connection to use it instead of dialing up our ISP
 every few minutes to send/retrieve our mail.  I can't seem to figure out how
 to do this.  Anyone got any tips/hints?

  1. Open Exchange Administrator
  2. Expand the container for your site
  3. Expand the Configuration container
  4. Open the Connections container
  5. Bring up the properties on the Internet Mail Service object
  6. Look at the Connections and Dial-up Connections tabs

  Also, check the Internet Options control panel's Connection tab to
make sure system-wide dial-on-demand is not configured.

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Re: Yahoo! SPAM

2002-03-29 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, at 7:37pm, Nikki Peterson wrote:
 UPDATE: When I changed my Marketing Preferences to NO on all SPAM,
 Yahoo! shut me out of POP. I can't POP any of my accounts that I turned
 off the SPAM on.

  Someone on another list I am on said that Yahoo was discontinuing POP3
access to their free email service.  (As an aside: Expect this to happen
everywhere.  The whole purpose of free email is to make you go to a
website.  They cannot do that if you are not even using a browser.)  You
have to read it via HTTP, or pay a fee for POP3.  Said poster said he did
receive a message about it.  Maybe there is more information in the Help  
section (which is where Yahoo buries a lot of gotchas)?

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Zvon RFC hypertext system

2002-03-21 Thread Benjamin Scott


  This is just too nice.  All of the online Internet RFCs (Request For
Comments, the standards definition) have been turned into a hypertext system
and placed online here:

http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC_share/Output/

  Features include hyperlinks to other RFCs when referenced, status, links
to obsoleting, obsoleted, and referencing RFCs, and STD/BCP/FYI/humor and
other selections.

  Anyone who has ever had to worry about Internet interoperability will
greatly appreciate this system.

  (My apologies to any who are subscribed to the multiple lists I posted
this to, and thus received this message more than once.  This web site is
just so darn nice and useful that I figured it would be worth the possible
waste of bandwidth.)

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MS browser trickery (was: Q article)

2002-03-20 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, at 3:08pm, Black, Nathan wrote:
 interesting. If you try viewing ths page with Opera Microsof says 
 
 There was a problem rendering the requested content. Please retry your
 request.

  Yah, Microsoft does that a lot.  I've actually seen MS web pages with
JavaScript as a guard around perfectly standard HTML or JS code, but which
disabled said code if you were not running MSIE.  More innovation, I
guess.  ;-)

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Re: The great smtp mystery

2002-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, at 7:31am, James Lavoie wrote:
 I receive a message in my inbox sent to an email address that does not match
 my own ...

  I feel it is educational to point out that what you describe happens every
time someone receives a message from this list.  :-)

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Re: Grammar question

2002-02-15 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, John Matteson wrote:
 What is *plonk*ed?

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/plonk.html

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RE: The day after superbowl

2002-02-04 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Allan Johnson wrote:
 did everyone stop playing golf suddenly?

  Golf: Trying to hit a small round object into a slightly larger hole using
tools totally inadequate for the task.

  ;-)

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Re: Stumped Mx record

2002-02-04 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Stevens, Dave wrote:
 My mail system has host unreachable for this domain:  www.pantex.com.  I
 do a Nslookup and there is NO MX record.  That should explain why our mail
 destined for them sits in the queue.

  RFC-974, page 4, says that if no MX record is present for a domain, the
SMTP implementation should treat the domain name as a mail host, and attempt
to connect directly to it.  As the host at the IP address listed for
pantex.com appears to be a valid mail exchanger, I would say they are
using that case.

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RE: Automatically printing eMAILs

2002-02-04 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Mitchell Mike wrote:
 I understand where you all are coming from but this is a very little used
 mailbox that it hopefully is easier to print messages than train user.

  Tisk!  He is a user of very little brain, after all.

  (With apologies to A.A. Milne)

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re: Restricting use of MSN Messenger

2002-02-01 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Ritu Sangha wrote:
 Will blocking the ports being used by MSN Messenger at the firewall work?

  My firewall notes say blocking tcp/1863 will foil the MSN Messenger.

  Note that AOL IM, newer versions of ICQ, and Yahoo IM all use arbitrary
ports on dedicated servers, so you have to block IP addresses instead.  
Fortunately, you can lookup the IP addresses via DNS (assuming your firewall
supports such things).

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Re: Recommendations for an Exchange 2k server (3000 Mailboxes)

2002-02-01 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Wynkoop, John wrote:
 Performace is the main issue here with cost running a very close second.

  Good, fast, cheap: Pick two.

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RE: Recommendations for an Exchange 2k server (3000 Mailboxes)

2002-02-01 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Wynkoop, John wrote:
 We were looking at about $50k for a dell with LTO backup, sound right?

  I like Dell.  LTO backup is well-regarded.  Without more information
(mailbox sizing, expected activity rates, etc.), it is impossible to provide
an answer, but conventional wisdom says:  Multiple processors.  One set of
mirrored disks for the OS, one set of mirrored disks for transaction logs,
and a RAID 5 set for the information store itself.  And as much RAM as you
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RE: Restriciting use of MSN Messenger

2002-01-30 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Darren Ash wrote:
 Unfortunatley YES. I could take it away, but he is kinda part of the
 support team and therefore needs to know the domain admin password which
 could be used to override the local admin account!

  I suspect improper use of instant messaging is the least of your
problems.

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Re: SPAM Blocking List

2002-01-29 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Hooks, Tim wrote:
 Does anyone out there have a list they would be willing to post of
 domains or email addresses you block to keep out spam? Thanks in
 advance.

  *.*

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
 If it serves a business need and e-mail is the easiest  method for
 achieving
 that goal, barring other limitations it seems just fine to me.

  Internet email is not designed for large file transfer.  That sure
qualifies as other limitations in my book.  :)

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Re: Dumb Question about Relaying

2001-11-19 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Murphy, Brian wrote:
 I have heard everyone talk about not relaying mail or not allowing the
 relaying of mail.  But what exactly does that mean?

  An SMTP system that performs relaying will accept mail for domains other
than those handled by the local system, and pass it on (relay it) to the
final destination.  For example, if you permitted relaying, your system
would accept mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then contact
Microsoft's mail exchangers and attempt to deliver it to Mr. Gates.

 For example, I have my system setup to NOT relay mail as per the FAQ.
 However, it states to enable routing (Reroute incoming SMTP) and then
 enable routing restrictions.

  Basically, this means the system will accept SMTP mail, but only for those
domains to which you have created routing entries.

 Let's assume I don't need POP3 or IMAP4.

  POP3 and IMAP4 are used only to retrieve mail from a mail server; they
actually have nothing to do with SMTP (which is used to exchange (lower-case
'E') mail between servers).

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-14 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Ed Crowley wrote:
 What limit should they have put?  $2,100?  $20,000?  So easy for you to
 make this call with 20-20 hindsight.

  Of course, Ford knew about the problem *ahead* of time, and still did
*nothing* to correct it.  Let 'em burn was their attitude.  Which is kind
of my beef with Microsoft in some situations.  You are defending a car which
was released with a known design defect that caused it to explode on impact.
I don't know about anyone else here, but that is not the kind of car I want
to drive.  Since so many people here seem to think that kind of behavior in
a product is acceptable, I guess I just have unusual expectations.

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

2001-11-14 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Elizabeth Farrell wrote:
 You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :)

  Spell cheque dew knot work write.

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RE: Suggestions would help thanks

2001-11-14 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Joyce, Louis wrote:
 OWA and an FTP server in NY.

  FTP is hideously insecure.  Combine it with a VPN, and yes, that would
work, but the guy already said his boss nixed that idea, and more
importantly, if you have a VPN, why futz around with FTP?  :)

  Personally, I think the OP should revisit the VPN idea.  You don't have to
replace NetWare with Windows 2000 to use a VPN; a couple of VPN appliances
will do the job as well (and likely better).  That solves most of your
problems right there.

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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-13 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Hunter, Lori wrote:
 Robert, go with what?  What are you planning to change?  Just because
 you CAN does not ever necessarily mean you SHOULD, especially in the
 Land of Exchange.

  One log to journal them all,
  One log to find them,
  One log to sort them all,
  And in the I.S. bind them,
  In the Land of Exchange, where the Messages lie.

  ;-)

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Viruses (was: Oracle to replace ...)

2001-11-13 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tom Meunier wrote:
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:language.perl.com/misc/virus.html
http://www.cknow.com/vtutor/vtplural.htm
http://www.dictionary.com/doctor/faq/v/virus.html

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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
 I was reading about the Email package Oracle offers and it really doesnt
 look like much more than a standard POP3/IMAP server that has a new
 feature called web calendaring.

   I suppose this Oracle thing might appeal to someone like Earthlink, with
8 kabillion mailboxes that simply get POP'ed out constantly.  That is a
mighty niche market though, and not one Exchange is targeted at anyway.

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Roger Seielstad wrote:
 Most customers who have used MS OSs since the DOS days, not to mention
 those exposed to *nix, like the ability to script just about any change
 to the OS ...

  The issue is not scripting per se, but the fact that MS Outlook and MSIE
have a long history of just running whatever the other guy sends to you,
without regard for the fact that it may be harmful to your computer.

 Do you think Microsoft pulls these features out of their nether regions?

  How else do you explain that damn paperclip?  ;-)

 So, you're not aware of the fact that with about 30 seconds worth of
 work (literally), you could write a script that would alleviate all
 these scripting vulnerabilities on all your machines?

  Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* mistakes?  I paid good
money for their software; it is unreasonable to expect it to be secure in
the default configuration?

 Again, the onus here rests on the Administrator ...

  What about the millions of home users who don't know even know how to
spell VBS?

  The estimates I hear state that viruses and worms due to poor design on
Microsoft's part cost billions of dollars per year.  Don't you think
billions of dollars is a bit much?

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Black, Nathan wrote:
 JavaScript is Microsoft's concoction of what they felt Java should be
 like.

  (Totally off-topic at this point, but what the heck... :)

  JavaScript (now (being?) standardized as ECMAScript) was originally called
LiveScript, and was developed by Netscape as a client-side scripting
language for web pages.  When Netscape and Sun noticed how similar
LiveScript and Java-the-language were, they decided to turn it into a
feature.

  I think C# might be accurately called what Microsoft felt Java should be
like, but I don't speak for Microsoft.  :)

 JavaScript has just about the same issues as VBscript, and doesn't
 really have a sandbox.

  H.  Well, it does in Mozilla.  I'm not familiar enough with MSIE's
implementation to say for sure, but I'll take your word for it.

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Stephen Mynhier [...message deleted...]

  I make a private reply, and you repost it to a public list, and *I* get
accused of trolling?

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
 For a developer having to write 600 lines of code to make sure
 everything is set right before launching the form would be an enormous
 amount of work compared to editing a key to allow .exe files to show up.
 Granted that may be the more secure way of doing things, but then people
 may not want to develop for that platform.

 Microsoft made a lot of money off Windows and Office being extremely
 easy to develop for and use. With that there is security risks.

  I think you make a good point.  What may have been a good approach in the
short term (very easy to work with, but insecure) is not so good in the long
term (it is still insecure, leading to many upset customers).  I wonder,
what happens next?  Microsoft has said they will be moving to make things
more secure.  Assuming they follow through, does that mean people will move
away to easier-but-less-secure platforms, restarting a cycle?  Or will it
mean security becomes a fundamental for Windows/Office programming (which, I
would argue, it should be)?

  Would people still like Exchange so much, if it was more secure but less
convenient?  I know *I* certainly would, but I'm not an Exchange programmer.
I wonder, how hard would it be to design a model that is secure by default,
but easily opens up access to software with the proper authorizations?  I
suspect that would require moving most of the scripting intelligence into
the server, where it can be protected better.  Anyone here who knows more
about Exchange programming than I (i.e., just about anyone) have any
comments on that?

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Re: To all the Vets on the list

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, John Matteson wrote:
 To all the Veterans of all branches of the U.S. Armed Services on the
 list:

   Thank you for your service to our country.

 And if you happen to be a veteran of an Allied armed service:

   Thank you for your service to your country.

  Here, here!

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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

You are not dead.

(Testing filter.)


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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-11 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
 I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems to me that every
 useful scripting language is potentially dangerous.

   True.  However, most scripting languages don't
 automatically execute when emailed to you... :-)

 JavaScript will in HTML email.

  JavaScript is sandboxed.

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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Paul Bouzan wrote:
 Don't worry Desmond, Fridays are always like this

  Not true.  It's like this all the time.  ;-)

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RE: Test

2001-10-29 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Doug Hampshire wrote:
 [1] Also known as the Secret Cabal

  TINC [1].

Footnotes
-
[1] There Is No Cabal.

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RE: OFF topic **

2001-10-26 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, MS Exchange Mailing List wrote:
 I don't think it would be a good idea to have a unix superuser password
 in a batch file (text).  A program that does macros and could scramble
 the info would be the way to go.

  If the program can scramble it, it can unscramble it.  That is not
security, it is obscurity.

  The OP specifically stated he wanted to become superuser automatically.
At that point, security has pretty much gone out the window.  Hopefully, the
OP is using a physically secure system.  Otherwise, he's dead meat.  I
suppose that should have been stated explicitly:

  Logging in as superuser/root/admin/system/etc. automatically over a
network pretty much destroys the security of your network.  Do not do it
unless your network is physically isolated from attack.

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Re: OFF topic **

2001-10-25 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Romero, Eric wrote:
 do you know of any Freeware telnet or similar product that will let me to
 automate the following in a batch file

  If you have shell access on the Unix system, why not write the script
there?  It would make a lot more sense...

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RE: MS Easybake Oven

2001-09-20 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Bauer, Mr. Rick wrote:
 Must be a COMPAQ server guy--always solve problems with bigger hardware.

  If it was a Compaq refrigerator, I guess it would only chill Compaq-brand
food, right?  ;-)

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Re: Arcserve and Exchange

2001-09-10 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Van Huissteden, Adriaan wrote:
 Is Arcserve and exchange a good choice?

  Arcserve and anything is not a good choice.

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Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Daniel Chenault wrote:
 I thought that if you lost the logs, there was a procedure to at least
 restore the data in the Stores?  Yeah, you lose anything that wasn't
 committed, of course, but can't you recover something?

 Yes, there is. In my world of support, though, lost data ==
 unacceptable.

  Everything is relative.  The company I work for supports very small
businesses (no more than 50 people, usually less than 20) and SOHO
enviornments.  One of our most common new customer scenarios is when the
office has finally grown to the point where they need to buy their first
dedicated network server.

  In that sort of situation, you cannot justify stand-by servers for
restores and recovery.  Hell, we usually have to argue just to get them to
buy a tape drive.

  Now, consider this configuration: NT 4.0, Exchange 5.5, with patches kept
current.  Single server for everything -- file, print, mail, backups, etc.
Either a single non-redundent disk, or two disks as a single mirrored
volume.  All files, databases, database logs, etc., on the same disk.
Circular logging turned on.  It gets backed up every night to tape -- often
a full backup every night.  Multiple tapes are used in rotation (father/son,
etc.).

  The customer is fully aware that hardware failure will likely result in
permenently losing the changes made since last night's backup.  It is
considered an acceptable risk.

  My belief has been that this scenario should work.  While performance is
far from the theoretial ideal, there is nothing that would cause data
corruption or system failure.  If a catestrophic failure occurs (e.g., dead
disk), once the failure is corrected, we should be able to recover to the
point of the previous night's backup.

  Is my belief correct, or are there additional factors that I am not aware
of?

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RE: exchange 5.5 e-mail disclaimer

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Soysal, Serdar wrote:
 Maybe we should change it so that the FAQ link is at the top of each
 message as opposed to the bottom.  Even better.  Force HTML format and
 have a dancing icon next to the FAQ link that says Click Me.  Or maybe
 we can rename the FAQ to Magic e-Crystal Ball.  Clik to learn all of
 life's secrets.

  How's this:

  Before the system will accept a post to the mailing list from an address
for the first time, it mails a confirmation request message to the would-be
poster.  The confirmation includes the text from a Q from the FAQ, selected
at random. To enable posting, you have to reply to the list server with the
*section number* of the question.

  That way, they are forced to find the FAQ, and read enough of it to at
least find which question was randomly selected.

  And by using item 4.1 instead of a random question, we could cut list
traffic in half.

  ;-)

  Happy Friday.

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RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Tom Meunier wrote:
 The assumption should have been that the logs are on separate spindles
 from the IS, and it's less likely that you'd lose both at once.

  Have you been following this thread?  We have to fight these people just
to buy a tape drive.  Multiple disks just for Exchange is just not going to
happen.  I settle for nightly backups to tape, and RAID if we're lucky.  It
is understood that changes since the last backup may be lost in the event of
a major failure.

  I was worried that this configuration might not be valid even for that.

  The additional usefulness of disabling circular logging, even with a
single disk, is appreciated, and will be acted upon.

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RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Ryan, John wrote:
 If they aren't already doing so, keeping the backup tapes offsite (the
 president takes them home or something) can be an incredible lifesaver.

  Indeed.  What is more, the concept of an off-site copy is easy to
understand -- even the most non-technical of managers understand the concept
of fire.  :-)  For a small company where one tape == one backup, it is easy
to implement, too.  Our customers that actually have plans to continue
operations in the event of a major disaster are doing this.

  The mom-and-pop shops which do not really plan on continuing operations if
the place burns down naturally don't bother.  :-)

 Oh, the trunk of the president's car doesn't count as off-site.
 Another client tried to restore from tapes stored in a trunk in the
 middle of winter.  It wasn't pretty.

  I once had a customer call because they left an off-site backup tape in
their car by mistake, on the dashboard, in hot sun.  It had melted.
Fortunately, tapes are cheap.  At least they didn't ask me if it was still
good :-)

  The other thing to realize is that those little fire safes they sell at
Wal-Mart are not very helpful.  They are designed to protect paper, not
tapes.  Paper can get quite hot before it combusts.  Tapes can degrade at
significantly lower temperatures.

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RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Waters, Jeff wrote:
 Why use Circular Logging??

  Does it make a difference?  Our thinking is basically: Given the lack of
separate disks, and given a full backup every night, turning circular
logging off would not gain us anything.  Given the principle of not making
changes without sufficient reason (i.e., if it ain't broke, don't fit it),
we just never bothered turning it off.  Do you think we should?

 At your point it really becomes a point of how important is this
 information to the business.  When I started here, we were a small org
 of about 300-500 users ...

  To us, that is a large organization.  We are in the below-50-users range,
here.  If you are not used to working in these environments, you have no
idea what it is like.

  These sorts of businesses simply do not have an IT staff.  They do not
have a separate IT budget -- a computer is a special purchase from general
funds.  They ask questions like, Do we really need a tape backup drive?,
or Do we really need a UPS for the server?, or Do we really need a
firewall for the Internet?.  We sometimes have to argue to convince people
they should use a server at all.  You would be amazed at how many SOHOs
consider a shared folder on a Windows 98 desktop PC to be a server.

  They also have nowhere near the availability needs of a large
organization.  They can generally do their work without the computers.
They have paper redundancy for everything, because they are not
sophisticated enough to do without it.  Even for our larger customers (i.e.,
40 or 50 users), a RAID array and redundant power supplies is about as fault
tolerant as they get.

  For a serious disaster (e.g., building burns down), the recovery plan is
usually something like chapter seven bankruptcy liquidation.  They simply
do not consider a disaster of that magnitude to be something they could
survive.

 What a lot of people don't take into consideration when they are putting
 everything on the same server is the amount of time it takes to get the
 server backup, not only do you have to do a exchange disaster recovery,
 now you have to install all the apps, restore all the other share data,
 recreate all the network printers, etc

  A complete backup, including registry, online Exchange, etc., should cover
all that, no?

 At some point the cost of the SCSI controller and a couple of hard
 drives starts to have a cost benefit.

  Indeed, and we argue that all the time.  We usually can at least convince
people that mirrored drives is a good idea.  Our largest customers (again,
still less than 50 users) go all out and have hot-swap drives and hardware
RAID controllers.

 The bottom line is that no matter what the size of your organization the
 server (no matter what it is doing) has to be built to meet the business
 needs it supports ...

  I do realize that.  However, the business needs -- and available funds --
are very small for our customer base.  With all this talk of separate
drives, I was just starting to get worried that our configurations are
likely to cause *unexpected* data loss.  Again, everyone is aware of the
risk to data between backups.  What I am worried about is this configuration
causing data loss by itself.

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RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Drewski wrote:
 If you have circular logging, and then crash before your backup, you may
 have overwritten log files from that morning -- and will be unable to
 play them back and recover.

  Are you talking about a soft crash?  That is, the system goes down
(e.g., someone trips over the power cord), but comes right back up?  My
understanding is that Exchange does not overwrite logs until they are
committed to the main database, even if circular logging is enabled.
Reference MSKB Q147524.

  I do realize media failure will result in data loss since the last backup.

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Re: Adding Message to all outgoing email

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Patrick Hudson wrote:
 Can someone please tell me how to add a message to all outgoing email.
 I work for a hospital and we need to add a confidentiality statement to
 all outgoing email.

  One should not use public email for confidential correspondence.

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