No, it isn't. Read the FAQ's. Specifically, read the Ed Crowley Never
Restore method. It is good advice for anyone and a sound practice as well.
Combining Deleted Items Retention with hiding mailboxes for a set period of
time will all but nullify the need to ever restore a mailbox. I have
, January 11, 2002 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup
As others have pointed out, you don't need a server-class machine for a
recovery server.
For that matter, I have never needed to use a recovery server. Why? I
use the Ed Crowley(tm) Never Restore(c) Method(sm)!
For full details
You wouldn't, by any chance, be trying to brick backup would you?
-Original Message-
From: Steck, Steffen M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup
Hi there,
I am having probs with the backup of my XCNG 5.5 Sp4 on
Are you doing mailbox level backups
PROFITLAB
Network Engineer
PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
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-Original Message-
From: Steck, Steffen M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup
Hi there,
I
What kind of backup are you running?
-- Drew
Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now!
If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do well
matters very much. -- Jacqueline Kennedy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
It sounds like you're doing a gasp brick backup? (each mailbox
individually?)
If so, you should check the archives (look down) for a lot of reasons why
you don't want to do it that way.
If not...are you using BackupExec's Exchange agent to perform on-line
backups?
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr,
Read this
http://my.excite.com/myexcite/my.jsp
Then switch from backing up mailboxes to backing up the IS and DS
-Original Message-
From: Steck, Steffen M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup
Hi there,
I am
it sounds like you are backing up individual mailboxes, this is not a good
idea, see the archives for why, is it also true that if you select the brick
backup then you are unable to make incremental backups..
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
you are obviously doing a brick level backup, i think this also means you
are unable to do an incremental.
_
List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:
50 to 1 it's a brick job :) 40GB has taken me 30+ hrs.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup
What kind of backup are you running?
-- Drew
It also means he can't do a full recovery of his mail server unless he is
also doing a backup of the DS/IS as well.
Besides, Incrementals bite.
-Original Message-
From: Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Backup
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup
It also means he can't do a full recovery of his mail server unless he is
also doing a backup of the DS/IS as well.
Besides, Incrementals bite.
-Original Message-
From: Gary
Actually, it's not recommended to backup any \exchsrvr folder while any
Exchange services are running.
-aseigler
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
and you have
planted the seeds of despotism around your own doors. --Abraham Lincoln
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Seigler
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Correct, I should have elaborated.
-aseigler
-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
what? You mean without an Exchange Aware backup, right?
-- Drew
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Come on people, do you see the :) at the end of the sentence? It was
sarcasm... I was trying to be humorous, I figured no one would believe such
an outlandish story, obviously I was wrong...
Sorry...
-cm
-Original Message
PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
I had a #$%#$% stepdad that was like that. One time, the combustive
properties of helium came up in our conversation (don't ask me why). He
insisted that helium was a combustible gas. I told him he was wrong and
eventually
Do you ever read any whitepapers or manuals? This is pretty friggin self
explanatory sh!t.
D
The road to a friend's house is never long. -Danish proverb
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange
Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Hello All,
I have backup exec 8.5 with
Don where all the white papers at!!
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs
Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a workstation...? -Anon
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec
If you are doing an Exchange aware backup Full usually means a full backup
of the database (DS/IS) only, plus flushing out the transaction logs, etc.
Anything else needs a regular file level backup.
John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 -
, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup
Use an open file manager:)
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From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Tis not necessary. You should backup the priv, pub, and log files. Flush
the logs
Why would you want to?
D
Revolution is a trivial shift in the emphasis of suffering. -Tom Stoppard
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Use
Why not??? :)
Actually if it worked right it would be cool because it would be like having
an offline backup everynight.
-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5
: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Why not??? :)
Actually if it worked right it would be cool because it would be like having
an offline backup everynight.
-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
No...sadly it is not...I cant even approve my own theory
-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Uh huh...
Me thinks that theory is not AB approved. ;o
: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a
workstation...? -Anon
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
that same thing twice.
-Original Message-
From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since they're criminals he
rates
PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
I'm having a little trouble here. I wonder several things based on that
statement, including; why would you stay there, why the CIO/IT Director
would allow such idiocy, what failed dot.com did the admin that blocks
: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
I had a #$%#$% step dad that was like that. One time, the combustive
properties of helium came up in our conversation (don't ask
me why). He
insisted that helium was a combustible gas. I
08:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Time, rule of thumb
My rule of thumb Restore = backuptime x 2
I never past this time but it includes also the installation of a fresh OS
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday
Do a couple of disaster recovery drills, and then you'll know how long it
takes to recover servers in your environment. Hardware, software,
configuration, and operator skills are going to vary from shop to shop, and
so recovery times are going to vary as well.
Hunter
-Original Message-
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: backup
It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ about back
up except what to use.
I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent = BAD
without an explanation is useless.
The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5
:55 PM
Subject: RE: backup
Welp. The E2k faq wasn't much better.
Am I going to do any damage from a online backup? Is there anything I
should look out for? What is the proper procedure for an offline
backup.
Any help is appreciated.
Mike Carlson
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http
: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: backup
Because I clicked on the link at the bottom of the emails. And since it
was almost midnight, my time, I failed to notice that the link brought
you to the 5.5
: Re: backup
Ah the old if I work at it long enough I will get the results
needed. I hate that, then you wake up the next day and the
light bulb goes off. I have an unwritten rule that after 6-8
hours working at a problem and your running around in circles
go home and get a good rest
You have it right.
Missy
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From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: backup
I know what you mean. I don't trick coffee, but Mountain Dew gets really
old after a while
Have you backed up the server before? The NT backup on the Exchange server
is a little different, and backs up the Exchange Store, known as an
on-line backup. If this sounds new to you, you haven't read the FAQ.
-Original Message-
From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: backup
Have you backed up the server before? The NT backup on the
Exchange server is a little different, and backs up the
Exchange Store, known as an on-line backup. If this sounds
new to you
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: backup
It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ
about back up except what to use.
I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent =
BAD without an explanation is useless
Of The Spoon People
Keeper Of None
-Original Message-
From: Mike Carlson
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: backup
Welp. I mispoke about info in the Faq. I was looking in the
5.5 FAQ. 2k faq seems to have a bit
what do you have your max mailbox size set at?
-Original Message-
From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 10 August, 2001 16.55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Policy
Partially kidding.
We keep tape backups for 60 days. Deleted item retention
What kind of recommendations do you expect? You already bought it!
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Thursday,
I would try powering down the back up device(if you have an external
device), powering down the Server, powering back up the back up device and
powering on the Server.
If this does not work you may need to upgrade to a newer version of Veritas
back up, v8.5 is what we are using.It can be
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