RE: Backup rituals

2003-12-07 Thread Jees
: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions

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2003-12-07 Thread Tony Hlabse
The link is wrapped From: Jees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:21:38 -0800 (PST) Eric, i get an error msg when following this link The download you requested

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2003-12-07 Thread Jees
i copied the entire address (both lines) and pasted on the ie address. Cheers --- Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The link is wrapped From: Jees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals

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2003-12-05 Thread Hank Arnold
I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive.

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2003-12-05 Thread Couch, Nate
This is our plan as well. Fulls every day plus the transaction logs has worked well for us. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Full plus

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2003-12-05 Thread Eric Fretz
is priceless.) Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup

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2003-12-05 Thread Eric Fretz
-Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods

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2003-12-05 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I do mostly cause i

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2003-12-04 Thread HOLLIDAY, Eric
[MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups

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2003-12-04 Thread David, Andy
Full plus replaying the trans logs will restore you to the point of failure. -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly

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2003-12-04 Thread Missy Koslosky
: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

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2003-12-04 Thread Woodruff, Michael
04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From

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2003-12-04 Thread Dickenson, Steven
Maryland -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead

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2003-12-04 Thread Paul Hutchings
and logs are on separate physical raid volumes so i figure that covers most scenarios without being over the top.. regards, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 22:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those

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2003-12-04 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
--- it just restores full and then only enough transaction logs to get to the required point in time. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals With a full all you need

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2003-12-03 Thread Eric Fretz
What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week

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2003-12-03 Thread Erik Sojka
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush

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2003-12-03 Thread Woodruff, Michael
If you have the space and time, do a full every night. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your

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2003-12-03 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read

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2003-12-03 Thread Tony Hlabse
Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:27:09 -0600 What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups

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2003-12-03 Thread Mike Dixon
I always do full. Far quicker restore procedure if necessary. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 15:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through

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2003-12-03 Thread Eric Fretz
Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup

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2003-12-03 Thread Martin Blackstone
that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites

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2003-12-03 Thread Martin Blackstone
Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full

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2003-12-03 Thread David, Andy
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full

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2003-12-03 Thread Tony Hlabse
] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing

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2003-12-03 Thread David, Andy
Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups

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2003-12-03 Thread John Parker
952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your

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2003-12-03 Thread Eric Fretz
2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing

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2003-12-03 Thread Erik Sojka
Move towards the light, Carol Anne. Read the whitepaper, Carol Anne. All is explained in the whitepaper, Carol Anne. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals

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2003-12-03 Thread Eric Fretz
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What

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2003-12-03 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's it! My bad. ::turns in MVP card:: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do

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2003-12-03 Thread Arch Willingham
I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've

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2003-12-03 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
every night than face angry users and have to tell them to kiss their last week worth of mail goodbye. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm using DLT 80/160 drives

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2003-12-03 Thread Dickenson, Steven
Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent

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2003-12-03 Thread Missy Koslosky
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups

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2003-12-03 Thread Martin Blackstone
Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily

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2003-12-03 Thread Missy Koslosky
- Original Message - From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant

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2003-12-03 Thread Arch Willingham
: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did

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2003-12-03 Thread Eric Fretz
Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM

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2003-12-03 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10

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2003-12-03 Thread Mike Dixon
Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501

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2003-12-03 Thread Mike Dixon
It makes you Happy!! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20

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2003-12-03 Thread David, Andy
Agreed. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals That's it! My bad. ::turns in MVP card:: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

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2003-12-03 Thread Scott Weston
whiskey. -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20

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2003-12-03 Thread Jim Helfer
I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady whatever she wants. Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals whiskey. -Original

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2003-12-03 Thread Eric Fretz
At this point, the name of this discussion thread should be changed from Backup rituals to Back up, fell over in a drunken stupor and disgusting kareoke rituals. --E Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510

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2003-12-03 Thread Ken Cornetet
: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032

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2003-12-03 Thread Arch Willingham
rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501

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2003-12-03 Thread Arch Willingham
: Backup rituals At this point, the name of this discussion thread should be changed from Backup rituals to Back up, fell over in a drunken stupor and disgusting kareoke rituals. --E Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax

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2003-12-03 Thread John Matteson
AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Backup rituals Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do

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2003-12-03 Thread mcary
Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals

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2003-12-03 Thread David, Andy
Nope. Too much work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day

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2003-12-03 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit

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2003-12-03 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf