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From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper
Erik was talking
about. I will stop asking questions
The link is wrapped
From: Jees [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:21:38 -0800 (PST)
Eric, i get an error msg when following this link
The download you requested
i copied the entire address (both lines) and pasted on
the ie address.
Cheers
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From: Jees [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I
will stop asking questions about DR methods.
Eric Fretz
Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to
provide disaster recovery.
By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive.
This is our plan as well. Fulls every day plus the transaction logs has
worked well for us.
Nate Couch
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From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Full plus
is priceless.)
Eric Fretz
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From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup
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From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking
about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I do mostly cause i
[MVP]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were
backing up off-site.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups
Full plus replaying the trans logs will restore you to the point of failure.
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From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly
: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter
restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)?
Eric Holliday
- PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!!
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From: [EMAIL
04, 2003 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter
restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)?
Eric Holliday
- PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!!
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From
Maryland
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From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter
restore point window (restore to the hour instead
and logs are on separate physical raid volumes so i figure that covers most
scenarios without being over the top..
regards,
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 22:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Those
--- it just restores full and then
only enough transaction logs to get to the required point in time.
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From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
With a full all you need
Read the whitepaper I referred you to yesterday. Then read it again. Read
it a third time.
That should be your bible and spouse for the next few weeks. Seriously.
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM
To:
If you have the space and time, do a full every night.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM
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Subject: Backup rituals
What backup rituals do you guys use on your
I prefer full backup every day.
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup rituals
What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked
through the FAQs and read
Keep in mind that full and incremental Exchange aware backup software will
delete trans logs. Diffs do not. And re-read the disaster recovery papers
for backup scenarios that fit your site
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I always do full. Far quicker restore procedure if necessary.
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 15:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup rituals
What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked
through the
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From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I prefer full backup
While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups,
Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The
reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction
logs. Only a full backup will do that.
In addition, you will want to familiarize
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From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM
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I prefer full
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I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I
thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and
time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full
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Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600
I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I
thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and
time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing
Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups
I do a full backup nightly.
I do a flat file backup using the Dantz Exchange utility.
And then I also use a routine with a firewire drive that grabs the flat file as well
as my sql backups and most of my relevant files that have changed every 4 hours.
The tapes are rotated daily as well as the
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From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
If you have a issue that is one thing
Move towards the light, Carol Anne. Read the whitepaper, Carol Anne. All is
explained in the whitepaper, Carol Anne.
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of
doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I
started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What
That's it! My bad.
::turns in MVP card::
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do
I thought it was a good question.
Arch
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've
every night
than face angry users and have to tell them to kiss their last week
worth of mail goodbye.
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I'm using DLT 80/160 drives
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM
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I thought it was a good question.
Arch
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Sent
Full backups daily. Anything else is a PITA to restore. If you don't have
the tape (or the time) to do this, a full on a weekly basis and a daily
incremental is the least sucky alternative.
Missy
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Totally valid question
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM
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Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily
Full backups daily. Anything else is a PITA to restore. If you don't have
the tape (or the time) to do this, a full on a weekly basis and a daily
differential is the least sucky alternative. Make sure you have the disk
space available to support a week's worth of transaction log files.
Missy
: RE: Backup rituals
Totally valid question
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each
night. Also, beer is good for youG.
Arch
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM
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Real men drink Stout!
Eric Fretz
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From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10
Tequila!
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Real men drink Stout!
Eric Fretz
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It makes you Happy!!
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From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 16:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Tequila!
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Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20
Agreed.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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That's it! My bad.
::turns in MVP card::
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whiskey.
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From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:25 AM
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Tequila!
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20
I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady
whatever she wants.
Jim
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From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:07 PM
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whiskey.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM
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I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady
whatever she wants.
Jim
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Tequila!
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Real men drink Stout!
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
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rituals
Tequila!
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Real men drink Stout!
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
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From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady
whatever she wants.
Jim
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Backup Exec, Full backups daily.
Mask, rattle.. Opps, that in case I have to use the backup tapes.
John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27
Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental
during the day?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup rituals
Nope. Too much work.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:35 PM
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Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental
during the day
Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup rituals
While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups,
Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The
reason being is that incremental do not commit
Of
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Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental
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