RE: MTA loop
MAILBOX may not be running Exchange or even be running, but have you tried pinging the IP address that was associated with that server? If it pings, then you may have your DNS set to resolve that IP to that NetBIOS name. If true, E2K may think that Exchange server is still up and running? I don't know, just a SWAG, since I'm not running E2K. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MTA loop In response to both your posts - SRS is running, and when i connect with exchange 55 admin and try to delete the phantom server i get the following error: "you cannot delete the exchange server because it is still active. Shut the server down and try again." needless to say, there is no server active with that name. Strangely, there does appear to be an entry for the phantom server in the computers OU. I think it was grandfathered in due to a static mapping in the DNS server. I've removed both entries - AD and DNS, and continue to get the same error. We are on E2k SP1, and the errors that were generated in the event log are specifically: Event Type: Warning Event Source: MSExchangeMTA Event Category: X.400 Service Event ID: 201 Date: 1/7/2002 Time: 4:47:17 AM User: N/A Computer: MAILBOX Description: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020105031501Z-5 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 12 104] (14) then: Event Type: Warning Event Source: MSExchangeMTA Event Category: X.400 Service Event ID: 290 Date: 1/7/2002 Time: 4:47:07 AM User: N/A Computer: MAILBOX Description: A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020104001500Z-2. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 12 136] (12) For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. Jeremy -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MTA loop If there is an SRS service running on your upgraded server then you could try attaching to that server using Exchange 55 Admin and deleting the directory entry for the phantom server from there. This would be part of the normal process for removing the last 55 server in a mixed site/admin group. -Original Message- From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 22:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: AW: MTA loop Question 2: My experience is that you can stop this service without any problem on a stand-alone server with nothing on it than ExchangeServer and an AV-Product. Question 3: On 5.5 I would have suggested to edit the registry and remove the entry. But on E2K I've not looked for something similar. But it's worth a try to check the registry. In the AD you don't see a computer object for it? You're on SP1 or SP2, right? And yes any EventIDs to your error descriptions? Ricki _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MTA loop
In response to both your posts - SRS is running, and when i connect with exchange 55 admin and try to delete the phantom server i get the following error: "you cannot delete the exchange server because it is still active. Shut the server down and try again." needless to say, there is no server active with that name. Strangely, there does appear to be an entry for the phantom server in the computers OU. I think it was grandfathered in due to a static mapping in the DNS server. I've removed both entries - AD and DNS, and continue to get the same error. We are on E2k SP1, and the errors that were generated in the event log are specifically: Event Type: Warning Event Source: MSExchangeMTA Event Category: X.400 Service Event ID: 201 Date: 1/7/2002 Time: 4:47:17 AM User: N/A Computer: MAILBOX Description: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020105031501Z-5 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 12 104] (14) then: Event Type: Warning Event Source: MSExchangeMTA Event Category: X.400 Service Event ID: 290 Date: 1/7/2002 Time: 4:47:07 AM User: N/A Computer: MAILBOX Description: A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020104001500Z-2. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 12 136] (12) For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. Jeremy -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MTA loop If there is an SRS service running on your upgraded server then you could try attaching to that server using Exchange 55 Admin and deleting the directory entry for the phantom server from there. This would be part of the normal process for removing the last 55 server in a mixed site/admin group. -Original Message- From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 22:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: AW: MTA loop Question 2: My experience is that you can stop this service without any problem on a stand-alone server with nothing on it than ExchangeServer and an AV-Product. Question 3: On 5.5 I would have suggested to edit the registry and remove the entry. But on E2K I've not looked for something similar. But it's worth a try to check the registry. In the AD you don't see a computer object for it? You're on SP1 or SP2, right? And yes any EventIDs to your error descriptions? Ricki _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MTA loop
If there is an SRS service running on your upgraded server then you could try attaching to that server using Exchange 55 Admin and deleting the directory entry for the phantom server from there. This would be part of the normal process for removing the last 55 server in a mixed site/admin group. -Original Message- From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 22:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: AW: MTA loop Question 2: My experience is that you can stop this service without any problem on a stand-alone server with nothing on it than ExchangeServer and an AV-Product. Question 3: On 5.5 I would have suggested to edit the registry and remove the entry. But on E2K I've not looked for something similar. But it's worth a try to check the registry. In the AD you don't see a computer object for it? You're on SP1 or SP2, right? And yes any EventIDs to your error descriptions? Ricki -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2002 17:02 An: Exchange Discussions Betreff: MTA loop Hi folks, hope everyone had a good new year. I need some background to help troubleshoot a strange problem. Way back when, when we were still on 5.5, we moved our mailboxes to a new server, and though we had no problem with any of the boxes or connectivity (thanks Mr. Crowley!) for some reason 5.5 system administrator continued to list the old server in it's console, but it was of course unaccessible, and since it no longer existed and didn't seem to foul anything up, we didn't worry about it. When we upgraded the server to 2000, the phantom server still appears, though it is now greyed out in exchange system manager. I'm not sure what triggered it, but recently our tranaction logs started growing a a rediculous rate (3/min!) to the point where the HD was full, IS stopped, yada, yada. After sleuthing about a bit, it seemed that every time the MS Exchange MTA Stacks service started, the following errors were logged in the app log, and then the transaction logs started expanding: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) and A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) so, there is a loop. ok got that. Question one: even after these events are logged the trans logs fill up as though the loop is continuing. why? Question two: with only one server in the network right now, do i need the MTA service? My workaround was to stop the service, and everything seems to be funtioning ok. we do plan on expanding at some point, so i will need it working properly eventually. Question three: How do i get rid of the phantom server, doing which i suspect will fix the MTA problem? If you've made it this far, and think you have some insights, a thousand thank yous. Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: MTA loop
Question 2: My experience is that you can stop this service without any problem on a stand-alone server with nothing on it than ExchangeServer and an AV-Product. Question 3: On 5.5 I would have suggested to edit the registry and remove the entry. But on E2K I've not looked for something similar. But it's worth a try to check the registry. In the AD you don't see a computer object for it? You're on SP1 or SP2, right? And yes any EventIDs to your error descriptions? Ricki -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2002 17:02 An: Exchange Discussions Betreff: MTA loop Hi folks, hope everyone had a good new year. I need some background to help troubleshoot a strange problem. Way back when, when we were still on 5.5, we moved our mailboxes to a new server, and though we had no problem with any of the boxes or connectivity (thanks Mr. Crowley!) for some reason 5.5 system administrator continued to list the old server in it's console, but it was of course unaccessible, and since it no longer existed and didn't seem to foul anything up, we didn't worry about it. When we upgraded the server to 2000, the phantom server still appears, though it is now greyed out in exchange system manager. I'm not sure what triggered it, but recently our tranaction logs started growing a a rediculous rate (3/min!) to the point where the HD was full, IS stopped, yada, yada. After sleuthing about a bit, it seemed that every time the MS Exchange MTA Stacks service started, the following errors were logged in the app log, and then the transaction logs started expanding: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) and A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) so, there is a loop. ok got that. Question one: even after these events are logged the trans logs fill up as though the loop is continuing. why? Question two: with only one server in the network right now, do i need the MTA service? My workaround was to stop the service, and everything seems to be funtioning ok. we do plan on expanding at some point, so i will need it working properly eventually. Question three: How do i get rid of the phantom server, doing which i suspect will fix the MTA problem? If you've made it this far, and think you have some insights, a thousand thank yous. Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTA loop
Hi folks, hope everyone had a good new year. I need some background to help troubleshoot a strange problem. Way back when, when we were still on 5.5, we moved our mailboxes to a new server, and though we had no problem with any of the boxes or connectivity (thanks Mr. Crowley!) for some reason 5.5 system administrator continued to list the old server in it's console, but it was of course unaccessible, and since it no longer existed and didn't seem to foul anything up, we didn't worry about it. When we upgraded the server to 2000, the phantom server still appears, though it is now greyed out in exchange system manager. I'm not sure what triggered it, but recently our tranaction logs started growing a a rediculous rate (3/min!) to the point where the HD was full, IS stopped, yada, yada. After sleuthing about a bit, it seemed that every time the MS Exchange MTA Stacks service started, the following errors were logged in the app log, and then the transaction logs started expanding: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) and A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) so, there is a loop. ok got that. Question one: even after these events are logged the trans logs fill up as though the loop is continuing. why? Question two: with only one server in the network right now, do i need the MTA service? My workaround was to stop the service, and everything seems to be funtioning ok. we do plan on expanding at some point, so i will need it working properly eventually. Question three: How do i get rid of the phantom server, doing which i suspect will fix the MTA problem? If you've made it this far, and think you have some insights, a thousand thank yous. Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTA Loop?
Hi folks, hope everyone had a good new year. I need some background to help troubleshoot a strange problem. Way back when, when we were still on 5.5, we moved our mailboxes to a new server, and though we had no problem with any of the boxes or connectivity (thanks Mr. Crowley!) for some reason 5.5 system administrator continued to list the old server in it's console, but it was of course unaccessible, and since it no longer existed and didn't seem to foul anything up, we didn't worry about it. When we upgraded the server to 2000, the phantom server still appears, though it is now greyed out in exchange system manager. I'm not sure what triggered it, but recently our tranaction logs started growing a a rediculous rate (3/min!) to the point where the HD was full, IS stopped, yada, yada. After sleuthing about a bit, it seemed that every time the MS Exchange MTA Stacks service started, the following errors were logged in the app log, and then the transaction logs started expanding: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) and A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) so, there is a loop. ok got that. Question one: even after these events are logged the trans logs fill up as though the loop is continuing. why? Question two: with only one server in the network right now, do i need the MTA service? My workaround was to stop the service, and everything seems to be funtioning ok. we do plan on expanding at some point, so i will need it working properly eventually. Question three: How do i get rid of the phantom server, doing which i suspect will fix the MTA problem? If you've made it this far, and think you have some insights, a thousand thank yous. Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
