RE: POP3 and SSL
Thanks Ed. That's what I thought, but our security manager needed convincing. Our clients in this case are all internal to the organisation so I'll push ahead with the MS certificate option. Best wishes, Eugene -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2003 03:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 and SSL There aren't any, really, except that the clients will have to trust your certificate root. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 and SSL Hi y'All, We have some clients access their Exchange 5.5 mailboxes over the Internet via POP3. We want to introduce POP3 with SSL. We have our own Microsoft Certificate Server. What are the disadvantages of using the MS certificates compared to using, for example, Verisign? Or, where could I find a reasonable discussion of the issues here? Many thanks, Eugene _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 and SSL
There aren't any, really, except that the clients will have to trust your certificate root. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 and SSL Hi y'All, We have some clients access their Exchange 5.5 mailboxes over the Internet via POP3. We want to introduce POP3 with SSL. We have our own Microsoft Certificate Server. What are the disadvantages of using the MS certificates compared to using, for example, Verisign? Or, where could I find a reasonable discussion of the issues here? Many thanks, Eugene _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector
This service worked PERFECTLY Thanks for the recommendation. - Matt -Original Message- From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector I have the perfect solution, go to: http://www.dyndns.org/services/mailhop/relay.html They offer a service to allow you to redirect smtp traffic across a different port for exactly this reason. I don't use this specific service, I use there backupMX service for my home exchange server. Service has been great. Anthony L. Sollars Technology Consultant Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc. 480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 425.254.4845 ) 425.681.4190 2 425.793.6000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector I would like to but it is the most reliable service in my area and I have had the e-mail address for so long it would be a pain to change. Call me lazy. I might try to contact them and see if I can get an exception made for me. The funny thing is their "business connection" is $40 more a month and is *slower* than my current connection but I would get some static IP's and no ports blocked. I am also finding that a lot of ISPs are going this direction to combat zombie Spam machines. I might have to bite the bullet and spend a little cash on this one: http://www.christensen-software.com/popcon.htm but I was hoping to find a free version somewhere. - Matt -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector If I were in your shoes, I'd find another ISP. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Pop3 to Exchange connector I am wrestling with a little problem that somebody on the list might know a solution for. I would like to setup an Exchange 2003 server at home to play around with but my ISP blocks port 25 inbound/outbound for everything but their mail server. I found a couple of products that will download mail from a POP3 account and relay them via SMTP to a Exchange server but they are a little cost prohibitive for a side project. Anybody know of a "freeware" program that provides the functionality? - Matt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector
That looks promising. Thanks. - Matt -Original Message- From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector I have the perfect solution, go to: http://www.dyndns.org/services/mailhop/relay.html They offer a service to allow you to redirect smtp traffic across a different port for exactly this reason. I don't use this specific service, I use there backupMX service for my home exchange server. Service has been great. Anthony L. Sollars Technology Consultant Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc. 480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 425.254.4845 ) 425.681.4190 2 425.793.6000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector I would like to but it is the most reliable service in my area and I have had the e-mail address for so long it would be a pain to change. Call me lazy. I might try to contact them and see if I can get an exception made for me. The funny thing is their "business connection" is $40 more a month and is *slower* than my current connection but I would get some static IP's and no ports blocked. I am also finding that a lot of ISPs are going this direction to combat zombie Spam machines. I might have to bite the bullet and spend a little cash on this one: http://www.christensen-software.com/popcon.htm but I was hoping to find a free version somewhere. - Matt -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector If I were in your shoes, I'd find another ISP. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Pop3 to Exchange connector I am wrestling with a little problem that somebody on the list might know a solution for. I would like to setup an Exchange 2003 server at home to play around with but my ISP blocks port 25 inbound/outbound for everything but their mail server. I found a couple of products that will download mail from a POP3 account and relay them via SMTP to a Exchange server but they are a little cost prohibitive for a side project. Anybody know of a "freeware" program that provides the functionality? - Matt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector
I have the perfect solution, go to: http://www.dyndns.org/services/mailhop/relay.html They offer a service to allow you to redirect smtp traffic across a different port for exactly this reason. I don't use this specific service, I use there backupMX service for my home exchange server. Service has been great. Anthony L. Sollars Technology Consultant Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc. 480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 425.254.4845 ) 425.681.4190 2 425.793.6000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector I would like to but it is the most reliable service in my area and I have had the e-mail address for so long it would be a pain to change. Call me lazy. I might try to contact them and see if I can get an exception made for me. The funny thing is their "business connection" is $40 more a month and is *slower* than my current connection but I would get some static IP's and no ports blocked. I am also finding that a lot of ISPs are going this direction to combat zombie Spam machines. I might have to bite the bullet and spend a little cash on this one: http://www.christensen-software.com/popcon.htm but I was hoping to find a free version somewhere. - Matt -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector If I were in your shoes, I'd find another ISP. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Pop3 to Exchange connector I am wrestling with a little problem that somebody on the list might know a solution for. I would like to setup an Exchange 2003 server at home to play around with but my ISP blocks port 25 inbound/outbound for everything but their mail server. I found a couple of products that will download mail from a POP3 account and relay them via SMTP to a Exchange server but they are a little cost prohibitive for a side project. Anybody know of a "freeware" program that provides the functionality? - Matt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector
I would like to but it is the most reliable service in my area and I have had the e-mail address for so long it would be a pain to change. Call me lazy. I might try to contact them and see if I can get an exception made for me. The funny thing is their "business connection" is $40 more a month and is *slower* than my current connection but I would get some static IP's and no ports blocked. I am also finding that a lot of ISPs are going this direction to combat zombie Spam machines. I might have to bite the bullet and spend a little cash on this one: http://www.christensen-software.com/popcon.htm but I was hoping to find a free version somewhere. - Matt -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector If I were in your shoes, I'd find another ISP. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Pop3 to Exchange connector I am wrestling with a little problem that somebody on the list might know a solution for. I would like to setup an Exchange 2003 server at home to play around with but my ISP blocks port 25 inbound/outbound for everything but their mail server. I found a couple of products that will download mail from a POP3 account and relay them via SMTP to a Exchange server but they are a little cost prohibitive for a side project. Anybody know of a "freeware" program that provides the functionality? - Matt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pop3 to Exchange connector
If I were in your shoes, I'd find another ISP. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Pop3 to Exchange connector I am wrestling with a little problem that somebody on the list might know a solution for. I would like to setup an Exchange 2003 server at home to play around with but my ISP blocks port 25 inbound/outbound for everything but their mail server. I found a couple of products that will download mail from a POP3 account and relay them via SMTP to a Exchange server but they are a little cost prohibitive for a side project. Anybody know of a "freeware" program that provides the functionality? - Matt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 using SSL
That is the setting. Note that when you check it the port number changes. It's an either-or situation. I've never needed to load a client certificate to use SSL. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Megginson Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 using SSL Thanks for the quick response. That's the "This server requires a secure connection (SSL)." check box on the Advanced tab, right? Under POP3 server Access/Authorization, I have both clear and Int. Windows Auth. if that matters. Don't I need to download a certificate to the client? Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 using SSL
If your going through a firewall make sure the appropriate port(995) for ssl pop3 or 993 for IMAP are open. No need for a certificate From: "Chris Megginson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: POP3 using SSL Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:14:58 -0700 Thanks for the quick response. That's the "This server requires a secure connection (SSL)." check box on the Advanced tab, right? Under POP3 server Access/Authorization, I have both clear and Int. Windows Auth. if that matters. Don't I need to download a certificate to the client? Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 using SSL
Thanks for the quick response. That's the "This server requires a secure connection (SSL)." check box on the Advanced tab, right? Under POP3 server Access/Authorization, I have both clear and Int. Windows Auth. if that matters. Don't I need to download a certificate to the client? Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 using SSL
In the client, all you really do is check the box that says to use SSL. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Megginson Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 using SSL I'm searching for instructions on setting up OL2K or OLXP to use POP3 on E2K SP3 using SSL. I think I have the server setup correctly but am unsure of how to setup the client. aTdHvAaNnKcSe Chris Megginson, MCSE _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 clients external mail delayed
Look at the headers of the messages that were received by the external recipients (have them send you the headers) and see where those messages were sitting. Also look at the tracking logs. Also look at the SMTP logs. Are your POP3 clients configured to use your Exchange server as an SMTP server? When a POP3 client sends mail, it does straight to an SMTP queue. If the message is for an external recipient, the message does not loop around anywhere else in the Exchange server. Just SMTP queue and then - out the door. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 clients external mail delayed Something strange is happening with POP3 clients on our Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. When they send mail to other mailboxes on the exchange server, no problem, the mail arrives immediately. When they send to external recipients the mail takes ages to be delivered, e.g. we sent a test message on Thursday afternoon and it didn't arrive in the external mailbox until Friday morning! The messages aren't stuck in the IMC queues and I'm not sure where else to look. Any help much appreciated! Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Broken?
Hi Chris, Just got this resoloved... After having another cisco admin take a look, there was no mapping for port 110 on the outside to the inside for the server the houses some of the mailboxes that needed it. All fixed up now Love that second opinion [;-) Cheers, Tony -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 Broken? If you telnet to port 110 on the localhost where your mailbox resides can you connect? To the netbios name? To the IP? Is mail.dfg.com a FE server for your 5.5 environment or the mailbox server itself (i.e. Should you expect it to be listening)? -Original Message- From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:54 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: POP3 Broken? Subject: POP3 Broken? Hello, Exchange 5.5 SP3 on NT 4 SP6a I've just found out that POP3 doesn't work on my dfg.com domain. From the command line, internally, I type " telnet mail.dfg.com 110" it just sits there and hangs. Alternatively, if I do the same for mail.moneymart.ca, it connects immediately. Again, this is internally so there isn't a firewall or anything blocking it. I've compared Protocol properties for both sites and they are the same. Any ideas where to begin? Cheers, Tony Tony Woods MCSE, CNA eMail/Network Administrator National Money Mart (250) 519-1302 ext 245 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Broken?
If you telnet to port 110 on the localhost where your mailbox resides can you connect? To the netbios name? To the IP? Is mail.dfg.com a FE server for your 5.5 environment or the mailbox server itself (i.e. Should you expect it to be listening)? -Original Message- From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:54 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: POP3 Broken? Subject: POP3 Broken? Hello, Exchange 5.5 SP3 on NT 4 SP6a I've just found out that POP3 doesn't work on my dfg.com domain. From the command line, internally, I type " telnet mail.dfg.com 110" it just sits there and hangs. Alternatively, if I do the same for mail.moneymart.ca, it connects immediately. Again, this is internally so there isn't a firewall or anything blocking it. I've compared Protocol properties for both sites and they are the same. Any ideas where to begin? Cheers, Tony Tony Woods MCSE, CNA eMail/Network Administrator National Money Mart (250) 519-1302 ext 245 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3 outlook 2002 accout lockes up upser accout in exchange 2000
In the client specify the account in the format: Domain\User_ID\Mailbox_Alias Forward slashes are also acceptable, even required for some clients that don't like backslashes like some versions of Netscape Mail. And make sure you've entered the password correctly. If this is configured wrong, you can quickly lock the account when the client retries. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hector cortez Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: pop3 outlook 2002 accout lockes up upser accout in exchange 2000 hello.. i have several instancess that several of my users are checking thier email, the pop3 client does not recognize the password and then it ends up locking up their email accout.. any ideas.. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Collection
Tony: A couple of companies have got POP3 connectors for Exchange. Try www.exchangepop3.com, PopCon (http://www.christensen-software.com/popcon.htm), or http://www.popbeamer.com). I believe that Small Business Server has a POP3 connector built in to it. If you want to offload this to a separate machine, GFI's MailEssentials will do this, too. Hope this helps, Jim McBee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:45 PM Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List Conversation: POP3 Collection Subject: POP3 Collection Sensitivity: Private Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange mailboxes? I mean all automatic from the server... Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Collection
Yes, Ive realised that, thanks. Some of my clients have various pop3 accounts that they want combined in one location for a single access point. I was going to install outlook on the server to do it, but the Q's say don't do it. It's not bulk though... Quoting Ed Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Any of the suggestions provided to you will be a great big kludge > because POP3 is not intended to be a mail transport protocol, but a > client mail retrieval protocol. > > Ed Crowley > HP Services > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:33 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 Collection > Sensitivity: Private > > > > > Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 > email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange mailboxes? > > I mean all automatic from the server... > > Thanks. > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Collection
Any of the suggestions provided to you will be a great big kludge because POP3 is not intended to be a mail transport protocol, but a client mail retrieval protocol. Ed Crowley HP Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 Collection Sensitivity: Private Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange mailboxes? I mean all automatic from the server... Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Collection
Try Mail Essentials http://www.gfi.com/mes/index.html Lyndon Jarvis Infrastructure Analyst MARKS & CLERK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 February 2003 15:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: POP3 Collection Yes Tony. You will need a third party product. ...knighTslayer... Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 > email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange mailboxes? > > I mean all automatic from the server... > > Thanks. > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. This message is confidential and may contain privileged information. It is for the named intended recipient only. If you receive it in error please e-mail the sender at the address above to notify us and destroy the original message, not keeping a copy. It is possible for e-mails to be intercepted or affected by viruses. Whilst we maintain virus checks on inbound e-mails, we accept no liability for viruses or other material introduced with this message. ___ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 Collection
3th party product, see archive. --B. At 13:32 10-02-2003 +, you wrote: Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange mailboxes? I mean all automatic from the server... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 Collection
You might want to look at this site:- http://www.kinesphere.com/ Now, I have used this before. It's not the most stable. But its good enough for a small group of users. Some good reporting in it though! ...knighTslayer... Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Yes Tony. > > You will need a third party product. > > ...knighTslayer... > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > > > > Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 > > email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange > mailboxes? > > > > I mean all automatic from the server... > > > > Thanks. > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 Collection
Yes Tony. You will need a third party product. ...knighTslayer... Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Is there any way of getting an Exchange 2000 server to collect pop3 > email from other sources and deliver it to specific exchange mailboxes? > > I mean all automatic from the server... > > Thanks. > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
I get it. The manager needs to have his a55 covered in case *his* higher level manager wants to chew it off when he can't use Outlook Express from home. :) -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? But if he already wants to shut it off anyway, why does he need to be convinced to do so? :) -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Is it not a best practice to 'shut off' any network entry/access point that you aren't explicitly using? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
But if he already wants to shut it off anyway, why does he need to be convinced to do so? :) -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Is it not a best practice to 'shut off' any network entry/access point that you aren't explicitly using? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
Yes, but regardless of how you have Exchange set up you wouldn't allow that protocol through your firewall unless you had some business reason. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Question? When a user from out side your firewall connects to exchange via POP3 and logs in. Is that username and password sent in clear text? Is there any security involved in this process? If not someone sniffing in the middle just got a username and password for your domain. I am a newbie to Exchange and security -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Justification to management? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3847&pg=4 k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: 05 February 2003 21:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? You are correct, the username and password is plain text, if that's the authentication method used. Use SSL POP3 (Port 995) to make it secure. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky Sent: 05 February 2003 21:18 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Question? When a user from out side your firewall connects to exchange via POP3 and logs in. Is that username and password sent in clear text? Is there any security involved in this process? If not someone sniffing in the middle just got a username and password for your domain. I am a newbie to Exchange and security -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Justification to management? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
You are correct, the username and password is plain text, if that's the authentication method used. Use SSL POP3 (Port 995) to make it secure. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky Sent: 05 February 2003 21:18 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Question? When a user from out side your firewall connects to exchange via POP3 and logs in. Is that username and password sent in clear text? Is there any security involved in this process? If not someone sniffing in the middle just got a username and password for your domain. I am a newbie to Exchange and security -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Justification to management? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
Question? When a user from out side your firewall connects to exchange via POP3 and logs in. Is that username and password sent in clear text? Is there any security involved in this process? If not someone sniffing in the middle just got a username and password for your domain. I am a newbie to Exchange and security -Original Message- From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Justification to management? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
Justification to management? -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
Is it not a best practice to 'shut off' any network entry/access point that you aren't explicitly using? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
If he already wants to shut it off why does he need any reasons? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 bad? Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
The one on the top of your head? :) Just kidding. I see your point. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Not at all, which is my point. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Guess that depends how many computer literate people you have at your site now doesn't it? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Whoopee. You've blocked a method nobody would have used. Go on home now and feel proud of your accomplishment. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? I'm sure they can. Anyone can make pst file, copy their emails to disk, or find another way. But it at least blocks that method of doing it. Aaron -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs > reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
RE: POP3 bad?
Not at all, which is my point. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Guess that depends how many computer literate people you have at your site now doesn't it? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Whoopee. You've blocked a method nobody would have used. Go on home now and feel proud of your accomplishment. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? I'm sure they can. Anyone can make pst file, copy their emails to disk, or find another way. But it at least blocks that method of doing it. Aaron -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs > reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PRO
RE: POP3 bad?
Guess that depends how many computer literate people you have at your site now doesn't it? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Whoopee. You've blocked a method nobody would have used. Go on home now and feel proud of your accomplishment. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? I'm sure they can. Anyone can make pst file, copy their emails to disk, or find another way. But it at least blocks that method of doing it. Aaron -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs > reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
RE: POP3 bad?
Whoopee. You've blocked a method nobody would have used. Go on home now and feel proud of your accomplishment. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? I'm sure they can. Anyone can make pst file, copy their emails to disk, or find another way. But it at least blocks that method of doing it. Aaron -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs > reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __
RE: POP3 bad?
Yes, and perhaps even accidentally by setting the delivery location in the profile to the PST. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Marriott Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs > reasons why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
I'm sure they can. Anyone can make pst file, copy their emails to disk, or find another way. But it at least blocks that method of doing it. Aaron -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
as in pst? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
They can do that just as well without POP. In fact, I would wager that many of your users are doing that today without POP3. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Aaron Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
eh... you can get POP3 over SSL though (port 995) albeit that most don't use it. But another good argument is that people inadvertently pop their mail out of their inbox.. then you have to go through the hassle of 'recover deleted items' on the inbox (or try to explain it to them). -Original Message- From: Exchange (Swynk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? How 'bout the fact that you get domain usernames and passwords flying around in plaintext when you use POP3. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM > Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > Conversation: POP3 bad? > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
How 'bout the fact that you get domain usernames and passwords flying around in plaintext when you use POP3. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:10 AM > Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > Conversation: POP3 bad? > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
At our site it's our policy that we purge all email 30 days and older. We don't want people downloading mail to their home computers at the risk of breaking that policy. That may not be applicable to your site, but that is one reason. Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 bad? Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 bad?
Well its always a bad idea in general security terms to run processes when you have no need to use them; why open yourself up to the potential of an exploit in something you don't have to use when you can just close it down and forget the risk? Why risk forgetting you need to apply a patch for it because "We don't use that here so we don't need to worry about it" (case in point would be those MSDE 2000 installs that got hit by slammer whose users didn't worry because they didn't use SQL Server 2000). Having it running when you don't use it is just more ways for things to go wrong -- for example a user connects to it while "playing" and downloads mail via pop, which deltes it from the server, and then complains they've lost their email. Why waste the server's resources on a process you don't expect to use. Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 February 2003 15:10 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 bad? > > > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but > needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 bad?
Reason: Customer would like to shut it off. - Original Message - From: "Tony Hlabse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:09 AM Subject: POP3 bad? > Are they any reasons to disable POP3 for use by users on a E2K setup? > Security or any other? Customer would like to shut it off but needs reasons > why POP3 should be shutdown. > > > > > > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Correct. Think about it - POP3 and IMAP4 are mail RETREIVAL protocols. They don't deal with sending mail, just receiving. For sending, you need to use SMTP. SMTP doesn't care about mailbox limits for send - nor should it. That's not the use for which it was designed. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Fay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:18 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K > > > Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 > for POP & IMAP > clients? > They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. > > -Original Message- > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K > > As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 > > >Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated > 4/11/01 and only > >refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student > E2K SP3 server > >with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously > this will go BUST > >on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be > supported. > > > > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 > > > >The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't > use the IS as > >previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now > SMTP is separated. > >Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the > Mailbox is over > its > >limit. > > > >Regards, > > > >Mark > > > >FAY CONSULTING, LLC > >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >www.fay.com > > > > > > > >_ > >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Thanks for everyone's comments. This is much clearer to me, I ran both clients against an E2K lab server today. The only solution is to use prohibit Send and Receive. The SA then issues a message to the mailbox recipient that their "mailbox is closed." They can still send, but senders do get an NDR. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K Previous versions bypassed the prohibit send as well IIRC. On 1/18/03 14:09, "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over its limit. Regards, Mark FAY CONSULTING, LLC E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Oh, I see Mr. David has pointed this out as well. Not sure I understand why this would be a critical design flaw in a deployment though. Heck, using AUTH SMTP I can send outbound SMTP mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that address doesn't even exist, let alone have a mailbox limit associated with it. On 1/19/03 11:52, "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Previous versions bypassed the prohibit send as well IIRC. On 1/18/03 14:09, "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over its limit. Regards, Mark FAY CONSULTING, LLC E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Previous versions bypassed the prohibit send as well IIRC. On 1/18/03 14:09, "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over its limit. Regards, Mark FAY CONSULTING, LLC E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
The KB article says nothing about this being fixed in a service pack, because this behavior is "by design". You are correct, Andy, that neither 5.5 nor 2000 prohibit sending of SMTP mail based on quota. You are also correct that the particular component which is responsible for the MAPI, POP and IMAP protocols is irrelevant, because it is SMTP that is used for sending mail, and it is not handled by the Information Store in any version of Exchange. The only effective enforcement mechanism for POP and IMAP users is, unfortunately, prohibit send and receive. You could argue, even, that it is the only truly effective enforcement mechanism for ANY user since a savvy user who is blocked from sending by MAPI might be able to figure out that he can send by SMTP. In reality this hasn't been a problem, but it's technically true. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K Yes, Exchange 5.5 supports these protocols natively. I dont know if I would quite say "the Information Store was responsible for MAPI, POP3, IMAP, etc. " as you phrase it. But nonetheless, why should it have worked in 5.5? Both Pop3 and imap use SMTP to send mail yes? What mechanism is in the IMS to check the storage limits of the user and then magically send an error message back to pop3 or imap client? What if you used one server to host the mail and another to send mail? -- Original Message -- From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:12:57 -0500 >Let me clarify. Prior to E2K the Information Store was responsible for >MAPI, POP3, IMAP, etc. In Exchange 2000 Microsoft has broken out POP3 >and IMAP4 protocols away from the Information Store. They now run as >separate services. If you chose to you could stop and disable >whichever one you chose to not support or offer given your environment. > >In EX 5.5, mailbox limits for POP and IMAP should have worked. I never >needed to test it however. According to my client, it has for them. >Higher ED with ~1,000 staff mailboxes. > >-Original Message- >From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:08 PM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K > >I cant. >Im just not aware of any mechanism in any version of Exchange that would >prevent a pop3 or imap user from sending email if they were over their >sending limit. > > >-- Original Message -- >From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:17:44 -0500 > >>Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 for POP & >>IMAP clients? >>They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM >>To: Exchange Discussions >>Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K >> >>As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. >> >> >> >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 >> >>>Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and >>>only refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K >>>SP3 server with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously >>>this will go >BUST >>>on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be >>supported. >>> >>> >>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 >>> >>>The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS >>>as previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is >separated. >>>Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is >>>over >>its >>>limit. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Mark >>> >>>FAY CONSULTING, LLC >>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>www.fay.com >>> >>> >>> >>
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Yes, Exchange 5.5 supports these protocols natively. I dont know if I would quite say "the Information Store was responsible for MAPI, POP3, IMAP, etc. " as you phrase it. But nonetheless, why should it have worked in 5.5? Both Pop3 and imap use SMTP to send mail yes? What mechanism is in the IMS to check the storage limits of the user and then magically send an error message back to pop3 or imap client? What if you used one server to host the mail and another to send mail? -- Original Message -- From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:12:57 -0500 >Let me clarify. Prior to E2K the Information Store was responsible for >MAPI, POP3, IMAP, etc. In Exchange 2000 Microsoft has broken out POP3 and >IMAP4 protocols away from the Information Store. They now run as separate >services. If you chose to you could stop and disable whichever one you >chose to not support or offer given your environment. > >In EX 5.5, mailbox limits for POP and IMAP should have worked. I never >needed to test it however. According to my client, it has for them. Higher >ED with ~1,000 staff mailboxes. > >-Original Message- >From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:08 PM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K > >I cant. >Im just not aware of any mechanism in any version of Exchange that would >prevent a pop3 or imap user from sending email if they were over their >sending limit. > > >-- Original Message -- >From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:17:44 -0500 > >>Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 for POP & IMAP >>clients? >>They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM >>To: Exchange Discussions >>Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K >> >>As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. >> >> >> >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 >> >>>Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only >>>refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server >>>with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go >BUST >>>on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be >>supported. >>> >>> >>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 >>> >>>The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as >>>previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is >separated. >>>Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over >>its >>>limit. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Mark >>> >>>FAY CONSULTING, LLC >>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>www.fay.com >>> >>> >>> >>>_ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >>_ >>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>_ >>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
In Exchange 2000, IMAP and POP is handled by IIS. Nevertheless, all messages are processed by the PHATCAT.DLL (Fat cat)which is the categorizer. All messages in Exchange 2000 must be categorized which includes checking for mailbox restrictions, etc. Even though MAPI clients still communicate directly with the IS, all messages must be passed through to the categorizer first. No exemptions. Therefore, unlike 5.5, where POP and IMAP clients communicated with the IMC and where not restricted by IS settings, in Exchange 2000, this shortcoming has be corrected. D. -Original Message- From: Fay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over its limit. Regards, Mark FAY CONSULTING, LLC E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Let me clarify. Prior to E2K the Information Store was responsible for MAPI, POP3, IMAP, etc. In Exchange 2000 Microsoft has broken out POP3 and IMAP4 protocols away from the Information Store. They now run as separate services. If you chose to you could stop and disable whichever one you chose to not support or offer given your environment. In EX 5.5, mailbox limits for POP and IMAP should have worked. I never needed to test it however. According to my client, it has for them. Higher ED with ~1,000 staff mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K I cant. Im just not aware of any mechanism in any version of Exchange that would prevent a pop3 or imap user from sending email if they were over their sending limit. -- Original Message -- From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:17:44 -0500 >Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 for POP & IMAP >clients? >They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. > >-Original Message- >From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K > >As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. > > > >-- Original Message -- >From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 > >>Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only >>refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server >>with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST >>on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be >supported. >> >> >>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 >> >>The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as >>previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. >>Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over >its >>limit. >> >>Regards, >> >>Mark >> >>FAY CONSULTING, LLC >>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>www.fay.com >> >> >> >>_ >>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
I cant. Im just not aware of any mechanism in any version of Exchange that would prevent a pop3 or imap user from sending email if they were over their sending limit. -- Original Message -- From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:17:44 -0500 >Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 for POP & IMAP >clients? >They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. > >-Original Message- >From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K > >As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. > > > >-- Original Message -- >From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 > >>Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only >>refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server >>with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST >>on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be >supported. >> >> >>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 >> >>The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as >>previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. >>Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over >its >>limit. >> >>Regards, >> >>Mark >> >>FAY CONSULTING, LLC >>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>www.fay.com >> >> >> >>_ >>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 for POP & IMAP clients? They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. -- Original Message -- From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 >Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only >refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server >with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST >on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 > >The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as >previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. >Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over its >limit. > >Regards, > >Mark > >FAY CONSULTING, LLC >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.fay.com > > > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 & IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. -- Original Message -- From: "Fay, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 >Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only >refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server >with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST >on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 > >The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as >previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. >Therefore they bypass the "prohibit send" feature if the Mailbox is over its >limit. > >Regards, > >Mark > >FAY CONSULTING, LLC >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.fay.com > > > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3
There are a lot of intervening devices between you and your users. If they havne't change anything, and you havent' changed anything and we work on the assumption that the software didn't reconfigure or rewrite itself overnite than the only logical explanation is that something in-between changed. You didn't say if this was over the internet or internal to your network. -Original Message- From: Karvannan S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 Importance: High Folks, We are facing a very starnge problem in the Exchange 2k server with POP3. People are connecting the server using Internet email settings thru outlook & ooutlook express. When try to download the mails from the server, it is saying "timed out" or it just hangs for long time. All these suddenly happened without doing any changes at the server end. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks & Regards, SK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3
How are they connecting? Does this happen only from the outside? - Original Message - From: "Karvannan S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:11 AM Subject: POP3 Folks, We are facing a very starnge problem in the Exchange 2k server with POP3. People are connecting the server using Internet email settings thru outlook & ooutlook express. When try to download the mails from the server, it is saying "timed out" or it just hangs for long time. All these suddenly happened without doing any changes at the server end. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks & Regards, SK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5
Well, SMTP protocol proxying either already exists in 5.5 or is a creature like a Jackalope depending on your perspective. E2K FE servers will proxy for POP3 and IMAP4. > -Original Message- > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:27 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > > Just curious, does exch 2k do protocol proxy for pop/smtp? > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:47 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5 > > Exchange 5.5 doesn't do protocol proxing for POP3/IMAP. Users > need to point directly to the server their mailbox resides on > to retrieve mail via these protocols. So, as darcy suggested > move all users to the same box or publish a pop2, pop3 and > pop4 PRN. E2K will support protocol porying with the > implementation of a FE/BE scenario. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bailey, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:32 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > We are currently configuring a select few mailboxes for > POP3 delivery > > for their WAP devices. This is a temporary setup until we > upgrade to > > Exchange 2000 but I need to get it working. > > > > Here is my setup: 1 site with 2 Exchange 5.5 SP3 servers. IMS is > > setup on server 1. the DNS record for pop.mydomain.com is > pointed to > > server 1. > > > > My problem: users with mailboxes on server 1 have no > problem getting > > their mail. Users on server 2 get the following error: > > > > There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your > Password was > > rejected. Account: 'pop.mydomain.com', Server: > > 'pop.mydomain.com', Protocol: > > POP3, Server Response: '-ERR The requested mailbox is not > available on > > this server', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server > > Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: > > 0x800CCC92 > > > > If I point a user on server 2 directly to server 2's IP address > > (internally), it works just fine. > > > > I have looked for an article on TechNet with no success. > > > > How do I setup one address for all users in my site to be able to > > access their mail via POP3? I know I probably missed > something stupid > > but I can't seem to put my finger on it. > > > > TIA, > > > > Matthew Bailey > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5
Just curious, does exch 2k do protocol proxy for pop/smtp? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5 Exchange 5.5 doesn't do protocol proxing for POP3/IMAP. Users need to point directly to the server their mailbox resides on to retrieve mail via these protocols. So, as darcy suggested move all users to the same box or publish a pop2, pop3 and pop4 PRN. E2K will support protocol porying with the implementation of a FE/BE scenario. > -Original Message- > From: Bailey, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:32 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > > We are currently configuring a select few mailboxes for POP3 > delivery for their WAP devices. This is a temporary setup > until we upgrade to Exchange 2000 but I need to get it working. > > Here is my setup: 1 site with 2 Exchange 5.5 SP3 servers. > IMS is setup on server 1. the DNS record for > pop.mydomain.com is pointed to server 1. > > My problem: users with mailboxes on server 1 have no problem > getting their mail. Users on server 2 get the following error: > > There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your > Password was rejected. Account: 'pop.mydomain.com', Server: > 'pop.mydomain.com', Protocol: > POP3, Server Response: '-ERR The requested mailbox is not > available on this server', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server > Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: > 0x800CCC92 > > If I point a user on server 2 directly to server 2's IP > address (internally), it works just fine. > > I have looked for an article on TechNet with no success. > > How do I setup one address for all users in my site to be > able to access their mail via POP3? I know I probably missed > something stupid but I can't seem to put my finger on it. > > TIA, > > Matthew Bailey > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5
Thanks for the quick answer Darcy and Chris. - Matthew Bailey LAN Engineer CSK Auto Inc. 602-631-7486 - -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5 Exchange 5.5 doesn't do protocol proxing for POP3/IMAP. Users need to point directly to the server their mailbox resides on to retrieve mail via these protocols. So, as darcy suggested move all users to the same box or publish a pop2, pop3 and pop4 PRN. E2K will support protocol porying with the implementation of a FE/BE scenario. > -Original Message- > From: Bailey, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:32 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > > We are currently configuring a select few mailboxes for POP3 > delivery for their WAP devices. This is a temporary setup > until we upgrade to Exchange 2000 but I need to get it working. > > Here is my setup: 1 site with 2 Exchange 5.5 SP3 servers. > IMS is setup on server 1. the DNS record for > pop.mydomain.com is pointed to server 1. > > My problem: users with mailboxes on server 1 have no problem > getting their mail. Users on server 2 get the following error: > > There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your > Password was rejected. Account: 'pop.mydomain.com', Server: > 'pop.mydomain.com', Protocol: > POP3, Server Response: '-ERR The requested mailbox is not > available on this server', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server > Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: > 0x800CCC92 > > If I point a user on server 2 directly to server 2's IP > address (internally), it works just fine. > > I have looked for an article on TechNet with no success. > > How do I setup one address for all users in my site to be > able to access their mail via POP3? I know I probably missed > something stupid but I can't seem to put my finger on it. > > TIA, > > Matthew Bailey > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5
Exchange 5.5 doesn't do protocol proxing for POP3/IMAP. Users need to point directly to the server their mailbox resides on to retrieve mail via these protocols. So, as darcy suggested move all users to the same box or publish a pop2, pop3 and pop4 PRN. E2K will support protocol porying with the implementation of a FE/BE scenario. > -Original Message- > From: Bailey, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:32 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > > We are currently configuring a select few mailboxes for POP3 > delivery for their WAP devices. This is a temporary setup > until we upgrade to Exchange 2000 but I need to get it working. > > Here is my setup: 1 site with 2 Exchange 5.5 SP3 servers. > IMS is setup on server 1. the DNS record for > pop.mydomain.com is pointed to server 1. > > My problem: users with mailboxes on server 1 have no problem > getting their mail. Users on server 2 get the following error: > > There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your > Password was rejected. Account: 'pop.mydomain.com', Server: > 'pop.mydomain.com', Protocol: > POP3, Server Response: '-ERR The requested mailbox is not > available on this server', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server > Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: > 0x800CCC92 > > If I point a user on server 2 directly to server 2's IP > address (internally), it works just fine. > > I have looked for an article on TechNet with no success. > > How do I setup one address for all users in my site to be > able to access their mail via POP3? I know I probably missed > something stupid but I can't seem to put my finger on it. > > TIA, > > Matthew Bailey > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 on Exchange 5.5
To answer your last question: Move all of your POP users to the same server. To pick up their mail, they have to point to the server their mailbox is hosted on. Darcy -Original Message- From: Bailey, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 on Exchange 5.5 We are currently configuring a select few mailboxes for POP3 delivery for their WAP devices. This is a temporary setup until we upgrade to Exchange 2000 but I need to get it working. Here is my setup: 1 site with 2 Exchange 5.5 SP3 servers. IMS is setup on server 1. the DNS record for pop.mydomain.com is pointed to server 1. My problem: users with mailboxes on server 1 have no problem getting their mail. Users on server 2 get the following error: There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your Password was rejected. Account: 'pop.mydomain.com', Server: 'pop.mydomain.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR The requested mailbox is not available on this server', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC92 If I point a user on server 2 directly to server 2's IP address (internally), it works just fine. I have looked for an article on TechNet with no success. How do I setup one address for all users in my site to be able to access their mail via POP3? I know I probably missed something stupid but I can't seem to put my finger on it. TIA, Matthew Bailey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Oh, I'm sorry. Did you mention you had Ex5.5? -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 August 2002 16:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access That only seems to work with Exch2K, not Exch55 (nothing shows up on the knowledge base except Exch2k references). -Original Message- From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Something like a front-end server setup perhaps? -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 August 2002 14:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall, right? -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
So what stops you from upgrading? Sounds like the product will address your needs here. Or, if you can't use that and have to stick with a Linux solution, there are sendmail configurations that allow FE/BE configurations, as a cursory Google search will reveal. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Bummer ... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Correct. > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:07 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That only seems to work with Exch2K, not Exch55 (nothing > shows up on the knowledge base except Exch2k references). > > > -Original Message- > From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:59 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Something like a front-end server setup perhaps? > > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 21 August 2002 14:49 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just > add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring > everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that > won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the > firewall, right? > > -Original Message- > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy > allows for that sort of thing. > > (:= > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3/IMAP access > > > Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP > access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) > box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? > > Thanks, > Jim Brady > Email Administrator > Enterprise Information Services > Cedars-Sinai Medical Center > 310 423-4653 Direct > 310 423-0112 Fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Bummer ... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Correct. > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:07 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That only seems to work with Exch2K, not Exch55 (nothing > shows up on the knowledge base except Exch2k references). > > > -Original Message- > From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:59 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Something like a front-end server setup perhaps? > > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 21 August 2002 14:49 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just > add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring > everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that > won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the > firewall, right? > > -Original Message- > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy > allows for that sort of thing. > > (:= > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3/IMAP access > > > Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP > access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) > box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? > > Thanks, > Jim Brady > Email Administrator > Enterprise Information Services > Cedars-Sinai Medical Center > 310 423-4653 Direct > 310 423-0112 Fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
It will with an E2K FE server. > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:49 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just > add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring > everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that > won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the > firewall, right? > > -Original Message- > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy > allows for that sort of thing. > > (:= > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3/IMAP access > > > Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP > access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) > box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? > > Thanks, > Jim Brady > Email Administrator > Enterprise Information Services > Cedars-Sinai Medical Center > 310 423-4653 Direct > 310 423-0112 Fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
In that case, E2K with a FE/BE server is probably the best solution. > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:55 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Umm ... Well, the smtp relays svrs are linux running qmail, > so I'd like to just use them for this also. I guess I could > just throw up a POP3/IMAP only exchange server in the dmz > also, but will this redirect pop3/imap requests to multiple > exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall? My > understanding is it's one to one (haven't checked this one > out yet). So, the WHY is to remove the mailbox servers from > any direct ip/port exposure to the internet and have outside > the firewall people hit dmz boxes only. Any thoughts? > > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:29 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > So the box needs to be a linux one huh? That reduces the > possibilities a bit. I understood the how, I'm still unclear > as to the why. > > -----Original Message- > From: Brady, James > To: Exchange Discussions > Sent: 8/20/2002 10:28 PM > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > Well, the notion is to have POP3 requests authenticate to > linux box in the DMZ, which will then proxy/deliver mail from > the exch55 svr behind the firewall to the users outside the firewall. > > -----Original Message- > From: Chris Scharff > Sent: Tue Aug 20 20:17:25 2002 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > With the objective being? > > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James > To: Exchange Discussions > Sent: 8/20/2002 1:24 PM > Subject: POP3/IMAP access > > Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP > access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) > box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Correct. > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:07 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That only seems to work with Exch2K, not Exch55 (nothing > shows up on the knowledge base except Exch2k references). > > > -Original Message- > From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:59 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Something like a front-end server setup perhaps? > > -Original Message- > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 21 August 2002 14:49 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just > add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring > everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that > won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the > firewall, right? > > -Original Message- > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access > > > Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy > allows for that sort of thing. > > (:= > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3/IMAP access > > > Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP > access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) > box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? > > Thanks, > Jim Brady > Email Administrator > Enterprise Information Services > Cedars-Sinai Medical Center > 310 423-4653 Direct > 310 423-0112 Fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
That only seems to work with Exch2K, not Exch55 (nothing shows up on the knowledge base except Exch2k references). -Original Message- From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Something like a front-end server setup perhaps? -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 August 2002 14:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall, right? -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Something like a front-end server setup perhaps? -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 August 2002 14:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall, right? -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
So, like, where can you configure the settings on the POP3 only server to fetch mail from other exchange mailbox servers in the same site and different sites? Any KB articles? Couldn't find any and all my previous attempts to pop only work on the exchange server that has the user's mailbox. I know you can perfwiz a server for pop3 only, so I guess it can be done. Running Exch55, sp4. -Original Message- From: Crump, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access yeah, it will. -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall, right? -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Umm ... Well, the smtp relays svrs are linux running qmail, so I'd like to just use them for this also. I guess I could just throw up a POP3/IMAP only exchange server in the dmz also, but will this redirect pop3/imap requests to multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall? My understanding is it's one to one (haven't checked this one out yet). So, the WHY is to remove the mailbox servers from any direct ip/port exposure to the internet and have outside the firewall people hit dmz boxes only. Any thoughts? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access So the box needs to be a linux one huh? That reduces the possibilities a bit. I understood the how, I'm still unclear as to the why. -Original Message- From: Brady, James To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 8/20/2002 10:28 PM Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Well, the notion is to have POP3 requests authenticate to linux box in the DMZ, which will then proxy/deliver mail from the exch55 svr behind the firewall to the users outside the firewall. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff Sent: Tue Aug 20 20:17:25 2002 To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: POP3/IMAP access With the objective being? -Original Message- From: Brady, James To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 8/20/2002 1:24 PM Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
yeah, it will. -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall, right? -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
That's a novel thought! So, yeah ... I guess I could just add an Exchange POP3/IMAP only box in the DMZ, requiring everyone to hit that server for POP3/IMAP requests, but that won't work with multiple exchange mailbox servers behind the firewall, right? -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
So the box needs to be a linux one huh? That reduces the possibilities a bit. I understood the how, I'm still unclear as to the why. -Original Message- From: Brady, James To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 8/20/2002 10:28 PM Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access Well, the notion is to have POP3 requests authenticate to linux box in the DMZ, which will then proxy/deliver mail from the exch55 svr behind the firewall to the users outside the firewall. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff Sent: Tue Aug 20 20:17:25 2002 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3/IMAP access With the objective being? -Original Message- From: Brady, James To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 8/20/2002 1:24 PM Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Yes. It's called Exchange 2000. Setting up a POP/IMAP proxy allows for that sort of thing. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brady, James Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
Well, the notion is to have POP3 requests authenticate to linux box in the DMZ, which will then proxy/deliver mail from the exch55 svr behind the firewall to the users outside the firewall. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff Sent: Tue Aug 20 20:17:25 2002 To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: POP3/IMAP access With the objective being? -Original Message- From: Brady, James To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 8/20/2002 1:24 PM Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3/IMAP access
With the objective being? -Original Message- From: Brady, James To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 8/20/2002 1:24 PM Subject: POP3/IMAP access Is there a product out there that allows for POP3 or IMAP access to exchange server mailboxes from a dedicated (relay) box (in DMZ?) w/o directly hitting the exchange server? Thanks, Jim Brady Email Administrator Enterprise Information Services Cedars-Sinai Medical Center 310 423-4653 Direct 310 423-0112 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3/imap access question
Is the user name that you are using the same as the alias that is listed on the Exchange General tab in ADU&C? If not, add it to the alias and then force replication (if you have more than 1 DC) and then try it again. Jeff Beckham -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:17 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: pop3/imap access question Subject: RE: pop3/imap access question the error I am getting: log onto incoming mail server (POP3): unable to logon to incoming mail server (POP3) verify settings I do get an e-mail stating the test is sucessful in my mailbox. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3/imap access question
the error I am getting: log onto incoming mail server (POP3): unable to logon to incoming mail server (POP3) verify settings I do get an e-mail stating the test is sucessful in my mailbox. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 and exchange 2k
Is the alias of the mailbox the same as the NT userid? I seem to remember in Exchange 5.5 having problems with POP3 if the alias and NTuserid were not the same, in which case you had to use the username something like NT domain\ntuserid\mailbox alias so it was always simpler to just make sure the alias and ntuserid matched. If that does not work you could try a manual telnet to POP3 port, 110, and use the following commands: user ntuserid/alias pass password of mailbox list (this will list all the messages in the inbox, with the size in kb) This would be more helpful in finding out where things are going wrong. For more information refer to RFC 1939 at ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1939.txt Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 16:18 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 and exchange 2k I'm trying to access my Exchange address through a POP3 client (HP Jornada) via RAS Connection into my Domain. I can get to my Exchange 2k test email account, but I can't get to my Real Exchange 2k email address. Thank you, Ron Crumbaker, MCP -Original Message- From: Chris Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 and exchange 2k I had the same problem yesterday with one of my POP3 accounts - it turns out the ISP had deactivated the account for non-usage as I was accessing it via a broadband connection through another ISP, and not using the email provider's dialup access. I reactivated my account via their webpages and all was fine. Does the ISP have webmail access - if so try this and ensure the account is active, and the password hasn't been changed Chris Quinn IT Manager Blue Planet Aquarium -Original Message- From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 14:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 and exchange 2k I'm having a problem getting mail from my E2k box using POP3. I can't get mail using the account my Outlook accesses. For instance, my mail rdcrumbaker I can't get mail via a POP3 client, but I can setup another user (ron_test) and I can get mail via pop3. I get an error saying Logon Failure: Unknown user name or bad password. Any suggestions? Thank you, Ron Crumbaker, MCP PC Systems Administrator MPD, Inc. - An Employee Owned Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office 270-685-6381 Fax 270-685-6212 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3/imap access question
If it's a DNS issue that they can not resolve the address, add a line to the host file or use the outside IP address of your POP server in the setup. Can they ping the POP server address? >-Original Message- >From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:22 PM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: RE: pop3/imap access question > > >>>is there anything special i need for the server name > >Well, the server name. > >Is it not working? > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:10 AM >To: Exchange Discussions >Subject: pop3/imap access question > > >eschange 5.5 sp4 environment. I am trying to get users dial in to their >isp and tried to setup outlook 2000 or outlook express to access their >mailbox. when i setup outlook, is there anything special i >need for the >server name (outlook web access works and users know how to get mail >thru the web) ie: pop.server.domain.com > >thanks > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 > > > >_ >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3/imap access question
>>is there anything special i need for the server name Well, the server name. Is it not working? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: pop3/imap access question eschange 5.5 sp4 environment. I am trying to get users dial in to their isp and tried to setup outlook 2000 or outlook express to access their mailbox. when i setup outlook, is there anything special i need for the server name (outlook web access works and users know how to get mail thru the web) ie: pop.server.domain.com thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 and exchange 2k
I'm trying to access my Exchange address through a POP3 client (HP Jornada) via RAS Connection into my Domain. I can get to my Exchange 2k test email account, but I can't get to my Real Exchange 2k email address. Thank you, Ron Crumbaker, MCP -Original Message- From: Chris Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 and exchange 2k I had the same problem yesterday with one of my POP3 accounts - it turns out the ISP had deactivated the account for non-usage as I was accessing it via a broadband connection through another ISP, and not using the email provider's dialup access. I reactivated my account via their webpages and all was fine. Does the ISP have webmail access - if so try this and ensure the account is active, and the password hasn't been changed Chris Quinn IT Manager Blue Planet Aquarium -Original Message- From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 14:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 and exchange 2k I'm having a problem getting mail from my E2k box using POP3. I can't get mail using the account my Outlook accesses. For instance, my mail rdcrumbaker I can't get mail via a POP3 client, but I can setup another user (ron_test) and I can get mail via pop3. I get an error saying Logon Failure: Unknown user name or bad password. Any suggestions? Thank you, Ron Crumbaker, MCP PC Systems Administrator MPD, Inc. - An Employee Owned Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office 270-685-6381 Fax 270-685-6212 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 and exchange 2k
I had the same problem yesterday with one of my POP3 accounts - it turns out the ISP had deactivated the account for non-usage as I was accessing it via a broadband connection through another ISP, and not using the email provider's dialup access. I reactivated my account via their webpages and all was fine. Does the ISP have webmail access - if so try this and ensure the account is active, and the password hasn't been changed Chris Quinn IT Manager Blue Planet Aquarium -Original Message- From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 14:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 and exchange 2k I'm having a problem getting mail from my E2k box using POP3. I can't get mail using the account my Outlook accesses. For instance, my mail rdcrumbaker I can't get mail via a POP3 client, but I can setup another user (ron_test) and I can get mail via pop3. I get an error saying Logon Failure: Unknown user name or bad password. Any suggestions? Thank you, Ron Crumbaker, MCP PC Systems Administrator MPD, Inc. - An Employee Owned Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office 270-685-6381 Fax 270-685-6212 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3 mailboxes
Your phrasing of the question indicates a misunderstanding of the way mail works. You don't have a POP3 mailbox; you couldn't, as there is no such thing. You have a mailbox that you retrieve mail from using the POP3 protocol. It is placed *into* the mailbox using the specific routing mechanism of the mail server itself. In your scenario there would only be one POP3 connection to your mailbox: the one you are using. So whether it allows one connection or 42, that is immaterial. POP3 is a pure retrieval protocol and has nothing to do with how the mail gets *into* the mailbox (or server either, for that matter) > -Original Message- > From: Rob Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:42 AM > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List > Conversation: pop3 mailboxes > Subject: pop3 mailboxes > > > How many connections to a single POP3 mailbox can be open at > the same time? > > I've got an Exchange 2000 server downloading using the SBS > POP connector from our provider, mails are being sent to a > specific mailbox, but intermittently do not arrive in the > POP3 box. The connector downloads every 15mins. The > provider says there is no problem with the POP3 box, and I > have deleted and recreated the box at least once. > > Any thoughts? > > (I thought pop could only permit a single concurrent connection??) > > > > Regards, > > > Rob Ellis > > Network Manager > Profectus IT > Tel 023 9224 7960 > Mob 07974 111867 > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3 mailboxes
It depends on the system. Many *nix based POP3 servers will 'lock' the mailbox while one account it connected to it, but there's no standard which requires it. > -Original Message- > From: Rob Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:42 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: pop3 mailboxes > > > How many connections to a single POP3 mailbox can be open at > the same time? > > I've got an Exchange 2000 server downloading using the SBS > POP connector from our provider, mails are being sent to a > specific mailbox, but intermittently do not arrive in the > POP3 box. The connector downloads every 15mins. The > provider says there is no problem with the POP3 box, and I > have deleted and recreated the box at least once. > > Any thoughts? > > (I thought pop could only permit a single concurrent connection??) > > > > Regards, > > > Rob Ellis > > Network Manager > Profectus IT > Tel 023 9224 7960 > Mob 07974 111867 > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 Connector Needed
You will have nothing but problems. You have spent a lot of money on a fantastic email system. Why hobble it like this? Use SMTP, and let it do its job. -Original Message- From: kedar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 Connector Needed Hi All, I know there is a pop3 connector available with Small Business Servers. But i want to use with Windows 2000 Standradedition combination with exchange 2000 standard edition...can anyone tell me if you have any solution other than going for third party connectors _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 Connector Needed
Bad, bad bidness. Guaranteed data loss. Do it right with SMTP and be done with it. - Original Message - From: "kedar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: POP3 Connector Needed > Hi All, > > I know there is a pop3 connector available with Small Business Servers. > But i want to use with Windows 2000 Standradedition combination with > exchange 2000 standard edition...can anyone tell me if you have any > solution other than going for third party connectors > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 mail and Exchange service same profile
Connecting Exchange server service and POP3 to the same mailbox in one profile is always going to cause problems and will drive the server loop-crazy -Original Message- From: wade robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 mail and Exchange service same profile Recently I have some customers receive multiple copies of messages that appeared to be looping, tracking the problem to pop accounts that are configured along with the Exchange service in the same profile. The users claim that this configuration had been in place for a while with no issues. I removed the internet mail service from users profile and have tested adding a internet mail service to my profile and I received multiple copies of message also. These users also complained that the message were old copies and should have been removed from their pop server. Currently I have instructed these users to not use their pop accounts and we may stop allowing POP out of our network but I would like to understand how this happened. Anyone seen this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3 but no user on 2k
No. William -Original Message- From: Elmer Stöwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: pop3 but no user on 2k I guess this is a simple one, but I just can't find it quickly. Win2K, E2K Is it possible to set up an mail account for POP3/SMTP without a user? I just need an mail account, nothing else. What is the smart way to to it? Thanx for hints all the best Elmer -- Elmer Stöwer CyberConsult - Beratungsgesellschaft für Neue Medien mbH Tel: (030) 39 99 05 -42, Fax: (030) 39 99 05 -67 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3 but no user on 2k
Having a test account for a software project. The software is sending and receiving mail to an account and doesnt need any other access rights. So I have to create a fake user and to take care, that this user has no rights to any other ressource. Sometimes it is good to know that something is just not working as you think it would;) Thanx for the reply regards Elmer > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:04 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: pop3 but no user on 2k > > > What is the purpose for doing this? > > - Original Message - > From: "Elmer Stöwer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:05 AM > Subject: pop3 but no user on 2k > > > I guess this is a simple one, but I just can't find it quickly. > > Win2K, E2K > > Is it possible to set up an mail account for POP3/SMTP > without a user? I > just need an mail account, nothing else. What is the smart > way to to it? > > Thanx for hints > > all the best > > Elmer > > -- > Elmer Stöwer > CyberConsult - Beratungsgesellschaft für Neue Medien mbH > Tel: (030) 39 99 05 -42, Fax: (030) 39 99 05 -67 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pop3 but no user on 2k
No. A mailbox in E2k is tied to a user. Always a 1:1 relationship. So make a user called FakeUser, and give it whatever SMTP address you want. > -Original Message- > From: Elmer Stöwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: Monday, March 04, 2002 08:05 AM > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List > Conversation: pop3 but no user on 2k > Subject: pop3 but no user on 2k > > > I guess this is a simple one, but I just can't find it quickly. > > Win2K, E2K > > Is it possible to set up an mail account for POP3/SMTP > without a user? I just need an mail account, nothing else. > What is the smart way to to it? > > Thanx for hints > > all the best > > Elmer > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pop3 but no user on 2k
What is the purpose for doing this? - Original Message - From: "Elmer Stöwer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: pop3 but no user on 2k I guess this is a simple one, but I just can't find it quickly. Win2K, E2K Is it possible to set up an mail account for POP3/SMTP without a user? I just need an mail account, nothing else. What is the smart way to to it? Thanx for hints all the best Elmer -- Elmer Stöwer CyberConsult - Beratungsgesellschaft für Neue Medien mbH Tel: (030) 39 99 05 -42, Fax: (030) 39 99 05 -67 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server
That will work, and work pretty well, with Outlook 2002. But that is a client, not a server, solution. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Busby, Jacob Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server > -Original Message- > From: Cezar Haraga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:59 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server > > Thank you Ed, I understand. > But, please, give me an idea...: > 1. install another software for this or... Outlook 2000, rather than Outlook Express, might do the trick. Outlook 2000 can be configured with multiple profiles. You could theoretically have one for your POP3 mail and one for your Exchange mail. You'd have to close down Outlook fully each time you wanted switch profiles and you'd probably want to tick the "Prompt for a profile each time I log on" check box under Tools/Options/Mail Services but this might be what your looking for. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server
> -Original Message- > From: Cezar Haraga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:59 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server > > Thank you Ed, I understand. > But, please, give me an idea...: > 1. install another software for this or... Outlook 2000, rather than Outlook Express, might do the trick. Outlook 2000 can be configured with multiple profiles. You could theoretically have one for your POP3 mail and one for your Exchange mail. You'd have to close down Outlook fully each time you wanted switch profiles and you'd probably want to tick the "Prompt for a profile each time I log on" check box under Tools/Options/Mail Services but this might be what your looking for. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server
Correct me if I am wrong here Ed. He is saying you don't configure your Exchange server to pull POP mail. It's not a good idea, and doesn't work without 3rd party software, and even then, doesn't always work correctly. If you really need to read mail from an outside ISP, then configure your Outlook client with the Internet Mail feature. That turns it into a POP client as well. Be aware that if you choose to do this, all mail you pull from your outside ISP, will, by default, be moved into your Exchange mailbox. Not a good idea, IMHO. You shouldn't mix business and personal mail together. Or, of course, you could just continue to use Outlook Express for your personal ISP mail, and Outlook for your Exchange mail. You do the math - figure out which one works best for you. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Cezar Haraga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server Thank you Ed, I understand. But, please, give me an idea...: 1. install another software for this or... 2. leave this problem...change server or else... Cezar Haraga Network Admin --- Ed Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is not a standard feature of Exchange Server. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP > Tech Consultant > Compaq Computer > "There are seldom good technological solutions to > behavioral problems." > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Cezar Haraga > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:37 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server > > > Hi. Help me pls in a little problem. > I have an Exchange Server on my network and I want > to read email's from > another mailboxes (outside mailboxes, from ISP's). > I use Outlook Expres 5.0 client. > How and what I need to configure on my server? > Thank you. > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server
> -Original Message- > From: Cezar Haraga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 18 January 2002 11:59 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server > > > Thank you Ed, I understand. > But, please, give me an idea...: > 1. install another software for this or... > 2. leave this problem...change server or else... > I'm not Ed, but I'll take a swing at this. Cezar, You want the server to collect mail from an upstream server using POP3, as I understand it. This quite simply will not work properly. There will always be cases where mail can be "lost" or misdirected, or can generally behave in a manner you do not expect. There are solutions for doing this out there if you do a search, but all the ones I have seen will tell you in the first or second paragraph of the read-me file that this is a bodge, a kludge, and it does not and will not work 100% correctly. I can't see any reason where this might be a good idea, given the unreliability, because it's always going to be better to either get everyone their own pop3 account on the upstream ISP server, or to pay for a proper connection. -- Robert Moir, MSMVP IT Systems Engineer, Luton Sixth Form College "Rome did not create a mighty empire by having management meetings" -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server
Thank you Ed, I understand. But, please, give me an idea...: 1. install another software for this or... 2. leave this problem...change server or else... Cezar Haraga Network Admin --- Ed Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is not a standard feature of Exchange Server. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP > Tech Consultant > Compaq Computer > "There are seldom good technological solutions to > behavioral problems." > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Cezar Haraga > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:37 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server > > > Hi. Help me pls in a little problem. > I have an Exchange Server on my network and I want > to read email's from > another mailboxes (outside mailboxes, from ISP's). > I use Outlook Expres 5.0 client. > How and what I need to configure on my server? > Thank you. > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server
That is not a standard feature of Exchange Server. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cezar Haraga Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: POP3 through MS Exchange 5.5 Server Hi. Help me pls in a little problem. I have an Exchange Server on my network and I want to read email's from another mailboxes (outside mailboxes, from ISP's). I use Outlook Expres 5.0 client. How and what I need to configure on my server? Thank you. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
