Back in 1902, the Theosophist Leadbeater wrote Man Visible and Invisible which
covers the bases. Here's a link to the text on-line which includes lots of
colour plates but also I've copied in his interpretations of the colours below.
There are lots of groups offering courses in astral
who have never had any sort of transcendent
experience. Is there any sense of recognition or just interest? I can't
remember ever noticing them before I got into meditating.
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Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon
Re Dentistry is definitely a big for profit enterprise even if they say
they're not.:
Dentists have the highest rates for suicide of any profession.
If I had to spend my life examining decaying teeth and breathing in halitosis
I'd have checked out long ago.
Victorian poet Tennyson seems to have stumbled upon TM before MMY took out the
copyright on the name. Take this quote of his:
A kind of walking trance I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I
have been all alone. This has often come upon me through repeating my own name
to
Joanne Milne, 40, from Gateshead, was born deaf, and during her 20s also began
to lose her vision due to the rare medical condition Usher Syndrome. But last
month she was fitted with cochlear implants and after 40 years of silence the
life-changing procedure has meant she is now able to hear.
When we used to listen to pop songs on crappy transistor radios it was easy to
mishear the lyrics. The best-known example has to be Purple Haze by Hendrix who
(apparently) sang: Scuse me, while I kiss this guy. When we saw him perform
on TV we looked at each other with raised eyebrows to say -
My confusion about the topic of Sloopy is made more understandable when you
recall that the next year Snoopy vs. the Red Baron hit the charts which really
*was* about that damned cartoon dog . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E
I shall have Birds Eye fish fingers for supper tonight as my way of saying
thank you.
William Seabrook demonstrates the proper tom-tom rhythm for a legitimate hex,
while Florence Birdseye -- of the Birdseye frozen-food family -- keeps the beat
on the right.
From the link: However there is the possibility, given the timeline, that
there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires, it blew on
take-off and started slowly burning. Yes, this happens with underinflated
tires! Remember: Heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long-run takeoff.:
If
and somehow swing it around yourself to create
the effect you are looking for. Newtonian physics still works for things like
us at slow speeds.
Or maybe that's all too obvious, I need a coffee.
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Talking about 2001: a Space Odyssey
Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 2501 - a DC-4 - vanished over Lake Michigan in
1950. The plane has never been found even though there is an annual search for
the wreckage using sonar.
The Malaysian plane has a flight data recorder but that only transmits a beep
for 30 days. If it's in the
The pilot's own YouTube pages has links to his favourites. He's a big fan of
Richard Dawkins's The God Delusion and subscribed to Richard Dawkins Foundation
for Science and Reason.
And he approves of Atheist Michael Newdow Intellectually Demolishes Arrogant
Moron on Fox News.
He was tickled
Re this ability to access others' YouTube pages - history/favourites/likes/etc.
- is it possible to put a block on one's own YouTube page? It's creepy thinking
that anyone anywhere can follow your deviant desires, crackpot theories,
political affiliations and vulgar tastes. I'm not asking for
A few days ago, a caller to a radio talk show mentioned that he was a frequent
flyer. And he has two artificial hips.
Every airport he'd flown from his hips have set off the alarm on the screening
devices - that is every airport he's flown from *except* Kuala Lumpur - which
he'd used twice.
Future biotechnology could be used to trick a prisoner's mind into thinking
they have served a 1,000-year sentence, a group of scientists have claimed.
Philosopher Rebecca Roache is in charge of a team of scholars focused upon the
ways futuristic technologies might transform punishment. Dr
Talking about 2001: a Space Odyssey reminds me of a puzzle I've ruminated over
for decades. This query is for physicists on FFL. If you're not a physicist
stop reading now - unless maybe you live in Fairfield and are a friend of John
Hagelin. In which case can you tap him on the shoulder, ask
Re A wise man views women as corpses, bags of urine and faeces.:
These remarks have a long history. See Marcus Aurelius's cynical advice:
Sexual intercourse is the rubbing together of abdomens, accompanied by the
spasmodic ejaculation of a sticky liquid.
These maxims which try to reduce
time from some of those on the plane. When people
suspect trouble, they do reactivate their electronic devices.
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I notice that the pilot Shah was described as an aviation geek. Shah had a
Boeing 77 simulator at his home(!) in Kuala
Psychic spoon-bender Uri Geller today revealed he has been asked to help find
the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft.
http://tinyurl.com/o3tfd62 http://tinyurl.com/o3tfd62
I notice that the pilot Shah was described as an aviation geek. Shah had a
Boeing 77 simulator at his home(!) in Kuala Lumpur. “We used to tease him. We
would ask him, why are you bringing your work home,” said a friend. Shah also
collected remote-controlled, miniature aircraft!
That
You really enjoy living in your head, huh? : Yes, and I keep it well fed with
juicy morsels.
Pure entertainment is all sci-fi is, except for the small minded, or desperate:
Jesus! What do have against fiction?
“It is only a novel... or, in short, only some work in which the greatest
My bet is that the plane experienced a sudden decompression, the pilot
tried to turn around to get back to Kuala Lumpur, but the pilots both
blacked out because they failed to put on face masks in time. The debris
is far out in the South China Sea somewhere.
That's my bet also. Except the
Yes, that last scene was chilling. Kubrick mentioned in an interview that in
that final scene the character played by Keir Dullea is supposed to be in a
zoo. The soundtrack was intended to suggest alien lifeforms shuffling by and
watching their rare specimen in the same idle way we humans
Forgot to mention in my reply (above) to your query about Dave seeing himself
age and die: this was presumably an effective Kubrick touch to suggest to we
viewers that our astronaut is learning to die to his old self - he won't need
that where he's going. Kubrick himself never liked having to
Yes, this could be the endgame.
In situations like this I'm not beyond wondering why those who believe in
spiritualism (not me) couldn't arrange a séance and ask the medium to try and
contact a lost loved one. If the medium makes contact that shows your loved
one is dead, no? If she can't get
Perspective? Sure, people across the globe are dropping like flies from heart
attacks, road accidents, old age . . . but an aircraft vanishing without trace
is a MYSTERY and mysteries are fun to solve! Think Amelia Earhart - we're still
trying to work out what happened to her and she vanished
And we know that dying in a plane crash comes pretty close to the top of
people's nightmare scenarios. Add in the possibility of terrorist involvement
or, even scarier(?), a suicidal pilot and thinking about it could keep you
awake nights.
Theology is the science of God. It's an obsolete set of theories about an
obsolescent belief system (Christianity) that has no relevance to moderns. I
have no objection to that approach but can't help feeling it misses out on the
important point. Which is? That theology was the way that
Thanks for the reply. I followed your link and enjoyed the poems. Turquoise Bee
was clearly someone who enjoyed the more earthy pleasures. And he didn't try to
hide his preferences so can't be accused of being a hypocrite. Nothing wrong
with that - but did he display any spiritual
Israel Regardie's quoting Ramakrishna (taste the sugar) was because Regardie
(surely correctly?) regarded Aleister Crowley as someone who also didn't make
that final renunciation but explicitly advocated a path in which spiritual
experiences where added to the smorgasboard of sexual and other
The Ramakrishna reference I was trying to recall above came from The Eye in the
Triangle: An Interpretation of Aleister Crowley by Israel Regardie (by the way:
the best short account of Crowley's life). Sri Ramakrishna said I want to
taste sugar, not become sugar. So what you have here is a
Lord David Paul Nicholas Dundas wrote a song for a UK TV advert for Brutus
Jeans. The song was so successful it was released as a single Jeans On and
reached No 3 in the UK in 1977. It had the feel of bubblegum pop with that
instantly catchy hook. DO NOT CLICK on the link below unless you want
Yes, we know all about Elvis and Bill Haley (yawn) but let's face it your mum
and dad liked them too - and those ghastly Elvis movies where so tame.
I suspect that for me rock started with the Beatles but here are two tracks
which pre-date John and Paul and which I instantly recognized as
Re transcending is a non-event and definitely not interesting.: Not
interesting? Freud, Jung, Sartre and assorted behaviourists claimed that an
experience of pure consciousness (awareness without an object) was impossible.
So if pure awareness *is* a possible experience it blows such theories
Re Recommended: the autobiographical statements of Ramakrishna's
experiences: I've not read about Ramakrishna in depth but will definitely make
up for that lapse soon as he is one of the most fascinating characters in
Indian spirituality. Someone (I forget who) claimed that Ramakrishna never
Yes it was Ramana Maharshi (not MMY) who advocated catching yourself at the
moment of waking There are too many great seers in Inda. I suspect Judy is
right when she she suggests Ramana is taking an effect for a cause but maybe
his technique has worked for some people. Ann's inability to grasp
One comment I appreciate is this one from Denis Postle: I've been doing TM off
and on for decades. A key thing to appreciate about it is that it is a reliable
way of taking us to the hypnogogic and hypnopompic junctions between sleep and
awake and keeping us hovering there. With very tangible
Re Ann's The transition between waking and sleeping is not transcendence in my
book. It is full of thoughts and awareness that do not feel transcendental at
all.: So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says. You have to hold your
awareness at the point you wake up *before* thoughts arise.
My preference is Miserere Mei Deus. Transcendental! http://tinyurl.com/orc2ana
http://tinyurl.com/orc2ana
It's strange that the TMO hasn't released DVDs of MMY talks for the general
public - readily available in media stores (contrast that with the large range
of Osho and Krishnamurti videos). There are DVDs available (at extortionate
rates) from TM centres but a selection of highlights could help
“The Hindus: An Alternative History,” by Wendy Doniger, a professor of religion
at the University of Chicago, was pulled by Penguin Books India after a
four-year legal battle that began when the Hindu nationalist group Shiksha
Bachao Andolan filed a suit against the publisher in 2011, claiming
“The Hindus: An Alternative History,” by Wendy Doniger, a professor of religion
at the University of Chicago, was pulled by Penguin Books India after a
four-year legal battle that began when the Hindu nationalist group Shiksha
Bachao Andolan filed a suit against the publisher in 2011, claiming
Yes, MMY was no friend of democracy and liked strong leaders. But praising
Hitler - although revealing a shocking lack of understanding of the Führer's
narcissism, blood lust and cold-blooded callousness - never featured in any
video talks I saw. There's lots of engaging footage to digitally
Re rape in the Bible:
Yes, we all know about it! It's worth pointing out though that some of the
quotes you supply that we moderns naturally read as being anti-female, could
also be read as an attempt by the authors to give the women of that dark age
some rights! For example, take another
Re Anyone considering these passages, who either sees or believes in
supra-material intelligences will conclude that YHVH was not a deity
(theos/theon) but rather an evil demon (kakodaimōn). :
The second-century theologian Marcion declared that Christianity was opposed
to Judaism and loathed
Re an idea that is dying out, with the older, ignorant generations.: I think
this old saw The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to
acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken still has a way to run.
Most people today have completely bought in to the whole consumerist
Re Simone Weil was a Platonist. TRUE Re She was not particularly enamored
with the Roman Catholic Church:
She came close to being baptised into the RC but the sufferings of her fellow
Jews during WWII led her to stop as she always identified most with those who
suffered most.
Re bastard
Re You should have taken advantage of the confusion and lifted yourself a new
TV.:
Well, maybe I would have! - but I don't need to as I can afford to buy myself
a new TV any time I want one. So could most of the smirkers I witnessed. That's
what they don't register: it's easy to feel
Re But the necessary existence is another therefore... that doesn't follow
from the previous statement.:
The ontological argument re-phrased.
Definition: God = that than which nothing greater can be conceived.
Claim: a Being that *cannot* be conceived not to exist is greater than a Being
Today I was walking past a department store when a sudden commotion caught my
attention. A young man was being frogmarched to a waiting police car by two
constables - obviously he was a shoplifter who hadn't been as careful as he
should have been. But what appalled me was that everyone around
Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can
conceive of Him not existing.:
So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose
non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an
image that you've constructed in your
Logician Kurt Gödel's ontological proof for the existence of God. (This should
keep salyavin808 busy for a while.)
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those
and only those properties which are positive Definition 2: A is an essence of x
if and only if for
Re I don't get the final therefore... I can conceive of fabulous things but
nature is under no obligation to create them.:
Because only that than which no greater can be conceived has *necessary*
existence. Everything else has accidental existence (you, for example). The
necessary
Re ;It is no good replying that lots of ordinary religious people conceive of
God in all sorts of crude ways at odds with the sophisticated philosophical
theology developed by classical theists . . . :
Precisely. Also your post makes it clear that the ideas we're talking about go
back to
Judy is correct. What Stephen Roberts (who he?) doesn't get is that God is
not a proper name. The trouble with these new atheist types is that they have
no sympathy for theology so completely misunderstand the language that
theologians use.
Re He really blasts them for their willful, arrogant ignorance, but they
deserve it.:
Precisely. These new atheists are so smug. The problem, of course, is that
their opponents in debate are usually those lowbrow, fundamentalist types that
are just as tiresome and even more misguided!
LOVED those Valentine cards! Let's quietly abandon our hopes and dreams
together kinda makes me think of Prince Charles and Camilla. The supermarket
chain Tesco used to do a Value range of dirt cheap but essential groceries in
stripped-down red, white and blue packaging. One year, as a jest,
The Can I have a go on your tits? Valentine card reminded me of this amusing
pop hit . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM7H0ooV_o8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM7H0ooV_o8
Silk Road 2 says it has been hacked resulting in the loss of ALL its customers'
bitcoins.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26187725
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26187725
Remarkably prescient review for a band that had only just started to make
waves. Makes a salutary contrast to my many dismissals of new bands over the
years that later became huge! But even I had my moments. I loved this track
from Hotlegs the pre-10cc name chosen by Godley and Creme. I saw
I watched the whole of Top Of The Lake. It's unpleasant and violent with no
redeeming or attractive characters. I only watched because of the UG guru role
to see where that would lead. Nowhere is the answer. There's no real
relationship between the spiritual group and the disorder and crime
Re Judy's :But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd
written, right?:
No - that was before my time. But people who write sycophantic crap about
tyrants are the sort of useful idiots who insisted Stalin was a good egg. At a
later date to repudiate what you said comes a
If you haven't already done so you might want to read Carlsen's take on
Ayatollah Khomeini. To me he was clearly a cruel, narrow-minded fanatic with an
instinctive hatred of western ideas of freedom. But where I see black Carlsen
sees white. Follow the link for his portrait of the mad imam; but
Re I'm pretty right wing when it comes to this stuff, I admit it.:
It's funny how people feel the need to apologise for being right wing. I
regard both wings as equally deluded. (My heroes are maverick outsiders - but
paradoxically a society of radical individualists would be a healthier
When mankind first left the African birthplace of our race millennia ago where
did they head to first? Fair England has that honour. This green and pleasant
land was an irresistible draw to our common ancestors.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26025763
Re I would hate for anyone to call me right wing:
A European right-wing conservative would have views far closer to a typical
American Democrat than to a Republican. Eg, the right for a woman to be able to
opt for an abortion is almost universally accepted over here.
But I would never label
By the way Ann, re your recent photo upload: that's a splendid hound you have.
I'm jealous. I am more of a cat lover myself but all domestic animals are
endlessly fascinating. Much more enjoyable and rewarding than a colour TV!
Those who do TM are supposed to keep pets out of the room when they
The brain produces endorphins - endogenous morphine - naturally. I've
wondered if some peoples' brains produce less of the goodies than others' which
would make those deficient in endorphins more likely to succumb to opiate
addiction. Never seen any discussion on the topic.
But, that said,
transaction between PSH and his dealer
as a private affair conducted between consenting adults. I suspect that's a
minority opinion!
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The brain produces endorphins
Re I have read something related to this.:
Yes, that sounds like the same territory I was suggesting. The problem with
heroin addicts is that it's too late to investigate their natural production of
endorphins when they're already hooked as their chemical self-regulation has
already been shot.
Well, of course, the religious wacko is correct: it was 50 years ago that Sgt.
Pepper taught the world to twerk.
The Beatles are to blame for (or at least they were a prominent factor in) the
sixties' cultural earthquake. I recall my music (classical) teacher saying to
me that he thought
ReI think the idea was that addicts were selfish, we already know dealers
don't give a crap about their customers.:
Yes - it was drug users I referred to. The point was that people who are
prepared to put themselves out for others (eg, mothers raising children) don't
tend to use drugs;
Re Most people spend a life they don't know what to do with, wishing they had
another one that lasted forever.:
That's actually quite profound! I thought it might be a quote but couldn't
trace it via Google. Well done you.
Re increase in deaths due to heroin laced with fentanyl :
That's a possible explanation. Another is that the heroin he injected is was
purer - stronger - than the usual stuff doing the rounds and he should have
used a smaller dose. But stronger/purer heroin is more desirable than heroin
Re increase in deaths due to heroin laced with fentanyl :
That's a possible explanation. Another is that the heroin he injected was
purer - stronger - than the usual stuff doing the rounds and he should have
used a smaller dose. But stronger/purer heroin is more desirable than heroin
cut
Re There was a mad rush to find the dealers who sold him the drug.:
My thoughts exactly. If the pusher is caught he's going to have the book
thrown at him. Prepare yourself for some cringe-making playing to the gallery
in the court as the dealer is cast as the scum of the earth.
Hoffman
Re Ocean of Bliss: The Recent Sayings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi:
Thanks for the recommendation..
Re I don't even know if they are allowed to teach it in Skem anymore as its
funded by the government now and ought to be teaching the national curriculum
which is unlikely to include astrology.:
Is it a free school (a charter school in the US)? If so, it doesn't have
to follow the national
Re how would they even approach Tony Nader's weird discoveries about the
veda and human physiology?:
Has anyone actually read that book? He was paid for his researches with his
weight in gold - I bet he stuffed himself with burgers and pizzas in the weeks
before the weighing test.
Re Don't act like it doesn't happen and that long term TM practice and esp.
long term TMSP practice is not a factor.:
Totally agree with you. Of course, the problem with issues like this is that
if anyone claims TM has such-and-such benefits, or alternatively that TM causes
this-and-that
The fact that Knox was originally questioned without her lawyer being present
will surely guarantee that no US authority would consent to her being sent back
to Italy.
I was wondering what would happen if her lover Raffaele Sollecito was able to
sneak into the USA and claim asylum. He's an
Barry, apologies for lowering the tone of the conversation, but you did make
the acquaintance of Crumb and I was pruriently curious if his wife was also one
of those dominatrix types with huge thighs and ass like his trademark fantasy
artwork women. Had he found his ideal partner? And what was
Re Human consciousness is above the dimensions of space and time. As such,
nature follows the desire of the knower.:
But note that desire is itself within the dimensions of space and time. I
desire to own a Land Rover. That can only be fulfilled at some *time* in the
future and at a
Re So we should KNOW to give importance to nothingness. And then we have in
our grip the totality.:
Thanks for sharing that. The whole MMY quote you post had me purring
contentedly.
What we really need is for someone of intelligence and discrimination to
produce a book - The Essential
Re Cognitive inhibition is believed to strongly influence, helping to control
both sexual and aggressive urges within human society.:
On a side note: TM, of course, relies not on inhibition but on the natural
tendency of the mind to settle in deeper, calmer depths.
Re Most scientists, being
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Seraph, tobacco is also a stimulant. It raises the metabolic rate. That's one
reason people gain weight when they stop smoking.
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Re It suggests, especially to young girls
Silk Cut brand had ads in preparation for a ban on named tobacco advertising.
The advertisements showed scissors cutting through purple silk with the Silk
Cut logo on it. When the ban came into effect Silk Cut removed the logo from
the advertisements and only left the purple silk. A study
I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I
particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film.
A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end.
Re When I got through with those hucksters they would be squalling for their
sycophants to carry them back to their ashrams!:
There are stories of sexually dubious behaviour re both MMY and Muktananda so
you'd have a field day dishing the dirt on them and watching them hurriedly
making their
Re Well I thought everybody knew he was killed by the long-time effects of
the injection the FBI/CIA gave him when he was 24 hrs in prison before he left
the USA. That's what Osho himself claimed.:
Osho thought he was a victim of thallium poisoning by the FBI. As thallium
causes hair loss
On the subject of rating spiritual masters, are FFLifers familiar with Sarlo's
Guru Rating Service? Sarlo himself was a disciple of Osho so gives him top
rating but apart from that self-indulgence I find his subjective judgements on
various teachers, gurus and rishis to be reliable. The site is
Re It suggests, especially to young girls, that if they smoke, they will be
slim.:
That isn't a myth though! Smoking tobacco really does suppress appetite. In
fact, I wonder how many models *don't* smoke. The increase in obesity levels
can at least in part be blamed on the success of
Re This influence acts to cull out any deep-seated hypocritical behaviour. :
Sounds like Kali has her work cut out. The modern world is built on a
foundation of lies.
Jesus! That creep Berg. I came across The Children of God in the early
seventies here in London. I recall the young woman in charge, who I suspect
might have been one of his daughters, was typical cult-leader material.
Complete self-confidence and not looking for anyone to contradict her. The
Re Egomaniac Godmen who had experienced selflessness:
I've seen a lot of DVDs of Osho's talks and although I would never have dreamt
of becoming a disciple I did find I agreed with most of what he said and he was
clearly talking from personal experience (and not just book-learning - though
I'll check it out but I bet it's not a patch on Darren Aronofsky's first
full-length feature Pi with a mathematician trying to unlock the universal
patterns found in nature. Gilliam always leans too hard on his art directors
and set designers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo18VIoR2xU
Re My tantra guru knew Osho and thought he was nuts.:
Don't all gurus bad-mouth the opposition? At Oregon, Osho had withdrawn from
public appearances (apart from drive pasts in his Rollers), he was already
heavily into Valium - up to 300mgs a day - way above a regular prescription
dose, and
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the
black flag, and begin slitting throats.” ― H.L. Mencken
Re Question of the day: how do you know you exist?:
This is elementary. I know I exist. That is only thing of which I am
*absolutely* certain. What I can't be certain of is that *you* exist. In an act
of condescension on my part I am prepared to accept that you *probably* do
exist - at
Coming back to Barry's post: 'I've seen a number of people have strong
experiences of being enlightenment, and then afterwards back off and run
away from any sadhana (spiritual practice, such as meditation) that would make
being enlightenment come back. :
Doesn't that apply to your Rama?
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