Re "The fact that campaigns to make kosher slaughter and even circumcision
illegal . . . ":
You are correct about the worrying rise in anti-Semitic violence in Europe -
often carried out by Muslims. But Muslims would also be hit by a ban on
circumcision. And if kosher slaughter is outlawed so w
Yeah, you told off the Americans on the discussion group. Good work!
Do you still have your American passport? LoL!
On 10/20/2013 11:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Share wrote:
> 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.'
>
>
"They wonder whether classic anti-Semitism is not back with a vengeance
all over Europe, after several decades of post-Holocaust toleration. The
fact that campaigns to make kosher slaughter and even circumcision
illegal are gaining ground in several countries, and were even endorsed
at the Coun
Zenos the stranger:
While you have that almost daemon-like entity in the Torah, you also have more
abstract versions of god in Cabbalah, Jewish esoteric interpretations of
scripture, which are much more in line with what people who seek enlightenment
are engaged in.
Don’t know where “almost” f
e Xeno, there have been a few times when I have somehow snuck past all the
*sleeping elephants* and experienced pure love or something very close to it.
It is a way of being that is in perfect harmony with the world and all of its
big and little details. It is all forms of human, conditional lov
I don't know. What is the difference between 'love' and 'pure love'? When
people fall in love, they tend to be, for a while, enslaved by that feeling
because ego becomes subdued. When one loves, though, there is a flow from
subject to the perceived object, but I am not clear on what 'purity' me
A much more interesting read is Watts' The Supreme Identity (1950) which is
largely based upon the insights of Rene Guenon.
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
For those interested in the Christian faith can I recommend two books by Alan
Watts. He made a name for himself with his b
For those interested in the Christian faith can I recommend two books by Alan
Watts. He made a name for himself with his books on Zen and eastern religions.
Those books are all readable and rewarding - if approached with caution - but
I've found his earlier works on Christianity both better writ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" turquoiseb@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> (snip)
> > > Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today?
> >
> > Can you imagine an Ameri
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
(snip)
> > Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today?
>
> Can you imagine an American President even having
> the balls to try?
>
> No one else can, either.
>
> That
Xeno, is it even possible to enslave out of pure Love? I believe that it is and
that it is one of the great paradoxes of life. Like the way a parent will set
strong boundaries to protect their child. Like that, God, or we can call it
Life, wants to give us all of itself. It will put us through h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
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> Share wrote:
> 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.'
>
> Were I this god, I would love this; you have succumbed to the
propaganda of a tyrant.
>
> Thomas Jefferson, an admirer of Jesus but not of much else in the
Ch
Share wrote:
'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.'
Were I this god, I would love this; you have succumbed to the propaganda of a
tyrant.
Thomas Jefferson, an admirer of Jesus but not of much else in the Christian
Bible wrote of this god of the Torah (as th
ROTFL.
Saying something false more than once doesn't somehow
make it more true, Barry.
We know from long experience why you would try to diss
irony and the folks you don't like who use it: It's
because you have a lot of trouble recognizing irony and
have many times been embarrassed by having miss
"As I've said before, IMO 'irony' is a tactic used
primarily by people without balls who want to be
able to tell the truth, but then deny that they
said it later, claiming that they were 'only
being ironic.'"
- Apr 3, 2013, some FFLer or another
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Sh
Share wrote:
> Judy, I'm not 100% convinced that the Bible is God's word completely devoid
> of human interpretation.
You aren't!? That's just appalling.
> OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.
No, no. God obviously hated Adam and Eve because they disobe
Judy, I'm not 100% convinced that the Bible is God's word completely devoid of
human interpretation.
OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:13 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
Share wrote:
> Seraphita, I could see that the
Share wrote:
> Seraphita, I could see that the serpent could also be a symbol of kundalini,
> an
> essential concept from another religion. It's not that God wants to enslave
> us.
> It's that people with certain ideas about God want to enslave us. They want
> us
> to believe their ide
According to what I've read, the first dualist philosophy was probably
the Indian Samkhya system - the term 'samkhya' pertains to number.
Samkhya is a Vedic first cousin to the Avestan dualism of the Persian
Zoroaster and the Manichaen Manes. Sankhya is the basis of all
subsequent Asian dualism
The story of the fallen angel is figurative, metaphorical
story.
It's the process of creation itself, the bigbang. The
spirit became matter, or "fell" into matter.
Long long ago, we were one with the "word". We lost our
oneness with the word as soon as we bit the "apple". The
entire sprititual
Seraphita, I could see that the serpent could also be a symbol of kundalini, an
essential concept from another religion. It's not that God wants to enslave us.
It's that people with certain ideas about God want to enslave us. They want us
to believe their ideas rather than the ideas of other rel
Re "And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden
thou mayest freely eat; But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
die" (Genesis 2:16-17). ":
Precisely! Man didn't die so
The Fall of Man myth is a universal story that teaches by means of a
confidence trick.
And the Lord God said, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know
good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the
Tree of Life, and eat, and live for ever... therefore the Lor
Re the doctrine of creation ex nihilo is a whole lot older than "modern"
Christianity.":
Indeed, the doctrine was dismissed by Parmenides in the 5th centruy BC with
his remark "Nothing comes from nothing". Can't fault that logic!
There is a whole shed load of doctrines a whole lot older
Richard, do other cultures have a myth about the fall of humanity that centers
around acquiring some forbidden knowledge? And in other cultures is the fall
blamed on the women?
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:04 PM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:
It seems obvious that the stories and myth
It seems obvious that the stories and myths gathered in the Bible were
assembled from immortality and fertility myths which were in common
circulation at that time, that is, about 3000 years ago. Stephen
Oppenheimer, writing in "Eden in the East" notes that many of these same
mythic elements ar
According to the Orthodox, "Ancestral Sin" caused the reversal of paradisaical
deathlessness by creating the consequential mortality that we all inherited.
Obviously a mythologized explanation but this is how they explain why humans
are prone to concupiscence and deviance of will.
Better y
Re "The writer is making a distinction between (Eastern) Orthodox Christianity
and Western Christianity and how and why they diverged after the first roughly
four centuries following Christ's death (and presumably his Resurrection).":
Yep - and I'm making a distinction between what Christ him
"Who is on those pictures, Daddy?"
He replied, "The Virgin Mary and Jesus."
She picked up the icon, kissed it and hugged it to her chest exclaiming, "Oh,
daddy, they love you so much!"
"Then," he told me, "We understood. It's all about affection."
If it's really all about affection who n
Read this and then see if you have questions.
http://www.stmaryorthodoxchurch.org/orthodoxy/articles/ancestral_versus_original_sin
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Well, at least he uses Christian "sacred words" rather than the Sanskrit
mantras the devil prefers...
O
Judy,
I remember asking the same question to my friend as he repeated the
conversation. He said "I guess he was a TM teacher because you had to be one to
be there on course."
Mm ... a TM teacher.
If Basil is worse than a fallen Catholic then he must be a devil worshiper!
You seem to be responding to a different post than the one you quote. But don't
worry, it was just a courtesy because I know it upsets you that I don't fall
for your dishonesty, and I know you can't help being dishonest; after all,
being truthful would require you to take account of reality. It'
No need to be sorry, it's just your opinion to which you are entitled.
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:21 AM, Share Long
wrote:
I didn't think that about empty. It was simply my intro into my story.
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
Becau
Don't believe you, sorry.
Share wrote:
I didn't think that about empty. It was simply my intro into my story.
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, "authfriend@..."
wrote:
Because you thought he thought it was just Catholics and wanted him to know
it was also Jehovah's Witnes
I didn't think that about empty. It was simply my intro into my story.
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
Because you thought he thought it was just Catholics and wanted him to know it
was also Jehovah's Witnesses. But you weren't aware that fundament
Because you thought he thought it was just Catholics and wanted him to know it
was also Jehovah's Witnesses. But you weren't aware that fundamentalist
Christians (Protestants) generally, not just Jehovah's Witnesses, think TM is
of the devil.
Share wrote:
> Judy, indeed emptybill is very kn
Judy, indeed emptybill is very knowledgeable. I was launching into my
experience with that sentence.
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:10 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
Share wrote:
> emptybill, it's not only the Roman Catholic Church that thinks this of TM.
No kidding!! Boy, I bet
Share wrote:
> emptybill, it's not only the Roman Catholic Church that thinks this of TM.
No kidding!! Boy, I bet emptybill will be surprised to learn this.
Actually Protestant fundamentalist Christians generally, not just Jehovah's
Witnesses, think TM is the work of the devil.
emptybill, it's not only the Roman Catholic Church that thinks this of TM. Back
in the 80s some Jehovah Witnesses told me that TM is "the work of the devil,"
that "it says so in the Bible." I asked if the Bible actually used the phrase
Transcendental Meditation. They admitted that it didn't but
I had a long time friend who was a TM teacher in Thailand, Malaysia and
Singapore in the mid-70's who talked with Basil Pennington on ATR.
Basil's concern was how to port over the TM technique to revive the Catholic
contemplative tradition. He believed this could be done and was working with
Our organization is nondenominational and all are welcome to attend our prayer
groups.
Our mission is to help churches and parishes, schools and places of prayer
establish a Centering Prayer Program
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Heck, everybody is offering instruction in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... wrote:
>
> what a friend we have in Francis, uses the most well researched,
> the effective technique, not for me to spell out better to just
> connect dots please and than-you
If you're trying to imply that Pope Francis practices
TM, I for one su
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