[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Let's call the Turq docrine about opinion TD. TD seems to be something

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: . . . As it turns out, my challenge is an old and famous one, one that actually had an answer. It was proposed (at different times, obviously) by the Biblical King Solomon and by Abraham Lincoln, who challenged someone to

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip As it turns out, my challenge is an old and famous one, one that actually had an answer. It was proposed (at different times, obviously) by the Biblical King Solomon and by Abraham Lincoln, who challenged someone to

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-03 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Let's

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread TurquoiseB
Empty, while I am even more underwhelmed by you spouting dogma than by you acting out your jeal- ousy of Vaj and myself, I perceive the possibility for fun here, so I'm gonna go for it. So I issue you a challenge -- describe for me (and our studio audience) something NON-relative, some truth

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Empty, while I am even more underwhelmed by you spouting dogma than by you acting out your jeal- ousy of Vaj and myself, I perceive the possibility for fun here, so I'm gonna go for it. So I issue you a challenge --

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Empty, while I am even more underwhelmed by you spouting dogma than by you acting out your jeal- ousy of Vaj and myself, I perceive the possibility

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I *understand* that some people (and especially some people on this forum) get their buttons pushed when someone challenges an assump- tion that they have taken for granted for so long that it has for them become

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Empty, while I am even more underwhelmed by you spouting dogma than by you acting out your jeal- ousy of Vaj and myself, I perceive the possibility for fun here, so I'm gonna go for it. While cleverly evading the actual

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread TurquoiseB
What part of the Mindfulness Posting Technique did Judy not understand? I guess I'll have to use visual aids. [http://www.timw.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/dumped_lge.gif] [http://www.jak-systems.ca/sites/Joker/Shared%20Documents/dumped-you--.j\ pg] The thing is, we all know that she

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Relativism sets out to reduce every element of absoluteness to a relativity, while making a quite illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Do you even *understand* the issue? Can you state it in your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread Vaj
On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Relativism sets out to reduce every element of absoluteness to a relativity, while making a quite illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Do you even

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [quoting emptybill quoting Frithjof Schuon's Logic and Transcendence] Relativism sets out to reduce every element

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: What part of the Mindfulness Posting Technique did Judy not understand? I guess I'll have to use visual aids. [http://www.timw.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/dumped_lge.gif]

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip The thing is, we all know that she *still* won't get it, even with the visual aids, and will *continue* to try to suck me and other victims into her never-ending arguments. You jes' keep right on telling yourself that

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread Duveyoung
Silly silly Turq. What a childish approach to debating ultimate truth. As if. As if! As if a logical rearranging of concepts could be a spiritual process that was anything but a cul de sac. One of the methods for approaching the Absolute: neti, neti, neti. Egoic attachment is a projection

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip The thing is, we all know that she *still* won't get it, even with the visual aids, and will *continue* to try to suck me and other victims into her

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Empty, while I am even more underwhelmed by you spouting dogma than by you acting

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: Let's call the Turq docrine about opinion TD. TD seems to be something like Truth is relative to your point of view and there is no Truth (capital 'T'). Not at all. You are making the same reading error that the rest

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Let's call the Turq docrine about opinion TD. TD seems to be something like Truth is relative to your point of view and there is no Truth (capital

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL and the Contradictions of Relativism

2009-07-02 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Let's call the Turq docrine about opinion TD. TD seems to be something like Truth is relative to your point of view and there is no Truth (capital