[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share Long: Thanks, Bill, I'm just reading it all, seeing what resonates, what useful in terms of everyday life. Isn't that just like a TM Teacher - deny, deny, obsfuscate, and then tell fibs. Don't believe this partisan, Share. I don't think he actually studied under a teacher, he's mostly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
A far greater threat to liberty by religious nutters is having the Supreme Court stacked with more douchebags like Scalia and Thomas. You mean, as opposed to 'TMer religious nutters' that populate Fairfield, Iowa, fifty-one percent of whom would vote for Ron Paul like your brother, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
emptybill: ...the real identity of Swami Agehananda Bharati was actually the Viennese academic - Leopold Fischer. Hey, Bill! You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you post your comments to the newsgroup! LoL! 'The Ochre Robe' by Swami Agehananda Bharati Seattle University Of Washington

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: DD: pretty soon his puja table will look like the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band! And his consciousness a disaster zone. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Buck
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then you

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2012-09-28 Thread Share Long
: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Share Long: I guess it's all about mantras LOL LoL!!! 'Bija' mantras have no semantic meaning; 'mantras' are words used in the Vedic rituals. You can do japa with bijas, but you'd need to know Sanskrit in order to chant the mantras in the Vedas

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2012-09-28 Thread Bhairitu
Get it straight Sri Ravi, football is bread and circuses designed to keep the minds of the American public dull. :-D On 09/27/2012 08:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh Uncle Barry2-ji - you are not helping MJ here OK - please stop this mindless, mantra, madness. Here's a man dulled by god knows

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2012-09-28 Thread Bhairitu
for Georgia Tec - as big as he is I am glad I never faced him on the field. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so

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2012-09-28 Thread Bhairitu
think this page is accurate? http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2007/haug07/sci.shtml From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so

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2012-09-28 Thread Michael Jackson
Thank you I am gonna check it out From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   I've only had a chance to glance

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2012-09-28 Thread emptybill
: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Â Share Long: I guess it's all about mantras LOL LoL!!! 'Bija' mantras have no semantic meaning; 'mantras' are words used in the Vedic rituals. You can do japa with bijas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread card
Yogic practices and thus yogins, and yogic practice, is firmly rooted in the teachings of Shakya and the Sramanas such as Natatputra. Na-tat-putra?? Not/[as if] his/her/its son?? ROFLOL!

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2012-09-28 Thread Bhairitu
: Richard J. Williams richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Â Share Long: I guess it's all about mantras LOL LoL!!! 'Bija' mantras have no semantic meaning; 'mantras

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2012-09-28 Thread Michael Jackson
@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Share Long: I guess it's all about mantras LOL LoL!!! 'Bija' mantras have no semantic meaning; 'mantras' are words used in the Vedic rituals

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2012-09-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Oh Uncle Barry2-ji - you are not helping MJ here OK - please stop this mindless, mantra, madness. Here's a man dulled by god knows 40-50 years of chanting - let him just watch Panthers football

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2012-09-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
is mighty interesting! Thank you for posting this, its good to know. -- *From:* emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2012 2:19 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

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2012-09-28 Thread Bhairitu
is so much fun - Part 2 Oh Uncle Barry2-ji - you are not helping MJ here OK - please stop this mindless, mantra, madness. Here's a man dulled by god knows 40-50 years of chanting - let him just watch Panthers football and recuperate. On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Bhairitu noozg

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2012-09-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Oh Uncle Barry2-ji - you are not helping MJ here OK - please stop this mindless, mantra, madness. Here's a man dulled by god knows 40-50 years of chanting - let him just watch Panthers football and recuperate. On Thu, Sep 27

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
emptybill: Share, don't be fooled by Wiki-Willy... So, let's review: The Buddhist Tantras preceeded the Hindu Tantras, so it's not a stretch to assume that since the Tantras are the manuals on bija mantras, the Buddhist Tantras woould have the Hindu bijas as well. That is, unless you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread emptybill
for posting this, its good to know. -- *From:* emptybill emptybill@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2012 2:19 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Share, don't be fooled

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Yogic practices and thus yogins, and yogic practice, is firmly rooted in the teachings of Shakya and the Sramanas such as Natatputra. cardemaister: Na-tat-putra?? Not/[as if] his/her/its son?? ROFLOL! Vardhamana Mahavira = Nigantha Nataputta, (the naked Jain ascetic of the clan

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2012-09-28 Thread Share Long
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   emptybill: Share, don't be fooled by Wiki-Willy... So, let's review: The Buddhist Tantras preceeded the Hindu Tantras, so it's not a stretch to assume that since the Tantras

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
mjackson74: Man, Fairfield life is mighty interesting! Thank you for posting this, its good to know. So what, exactly, is the annonymous poster's point? That the Buddhist bijas came from the Hindus, or that the Shankara Saraswati sanyasins are not Sri Vidya adherents? Obviously the TM

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2012-09-28 Thread Ken Wehmann
. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Probably won't BELIEVE anybody.  Might be fooled

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share Long: Will see what resonates from all sources. Self-recurrent consciousness was introduced by Vasugupta in Kashmere. It is called the vibration/movement of consciousness. It's just like MMY said about the vibrations - it's 'Spanda', just like Vajrayana 'Consciousness-only'. Now you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Alex Stanley
A far greater threat to liberty by religious nutters is having the Supreme Court stacked with more douchebags like Scalia and Thomas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ken Wehmann thecatholicimperium@... wrote: This is not spam. It is a plea to consider the ramifications of Sharia Law.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread authfriend
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Probably won't BELIEVE anybody.  Might be fooled by everybody (-: Will see what resonates from all sources.  Will enjoy learning.  Will continue living the simple FF life... Â

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Alex Stanley
Yep, it's spam. The site he's hawking is registered to him, he's seeking donations, and his organization is not a legitimate non-profit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Alex, this is spam. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ken Wehmann

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-28 Thread Buck
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread Alex Stanley
Amma may or may not be functioning from ego, but the organization built around her and her true-believing zombie followers certainly are. I would question the value of a guru who appears to function primarily as a locus of egoic attachment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74

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2012-09-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: Also, in response to carubio52's assertion that I am crazy because I included Amma in my very short partial list of gurus whom I believe to be functioning from ego all I can say is that using common sense when you look

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2012-09-27 Thread Michael Jackson
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Amma may or may not be functioning from ego, but the organization built around her and her true-believing zombie followers certainly are. I would question

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2012-09-27 Thread Michael Jackson
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   They are just my opinion, like all the things that are posted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread Buck
: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   They are just my opinion, like all the things that are posted here are the opinions of the writers, although I do rub elbows with Buddha every so often. He doesn't say much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
mjackson74@ wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Â

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2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
mjackson74@ wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   They are just my

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2012-09-27 Thread nablusoss1008
: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   They are just my opinion, like all the things that are posted here are the opinions

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2012-09-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: Tell you what, why don't you and me concentrate on friendliness, happiness and compassion so we don't wind up mentally/verbally slappin' each other around, 'K? That's a brilliant idea, just what we need more of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
Careful Jackson, pearls before swine. This is a tough rough crowd here. Rick has visions of this place being a salon but it plays more like a saloon... nablusoss1008: With all due respect Buck, why not let the posters speak freely? http://www.vanityfair.com/ Apparently Mr.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread emptybill
Careful Jackson, pearls before swine. This is a tough rough crowd here. Rick has visions of this place being a salon but it plays more like a saloon. Kindly, Buck in the Dome WTF? ... Like a Saloon? This place is a saloon and you've been seen and heard chatting with the riftraft who drink

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
Look Richard, let me be very plain here - I do not give a damn where the mantras came from nor do I know why you obsess over their origins so much. Were I to be coming to TM now with no prior knowledge of the practice, I might be interested. In 1974 it never occurred to me to ask - I accepted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: Bob now has his own thing he calls Fulfillment Meditation. Totally different set of mantras although interestingly he still does puja, but he puts pics of not only Guru Dev on the puja table but pics of Kwan Yin,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread emptybill
Look Jackson, your gonna cause his head to explode. Here's an example of a former post that deals with this point but that Willy can't make sense of in any way. He can't let it go 'cause he can't understand. From Baba Hari Dass (the upa-guru of Ram Dass) On the difference between Mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
Damn! I Thought there was something wrong with me cuz my body consciousness was disappearing! But you are right - I probably should posting this stuff - it is getting too many people stirred up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Look Jackson, your gonna

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
I am not sure if you are asking for real, but if you are, Kwan Yin is the bodhisattva of legend, often associated with Buddha - as usual with such things whatever the origin, things and beliefs morph - in China and Japan she is the Goddess or Mercy or Compassion - most Chinese restaurants have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread emptybill
Jackson, Don't worry ... Continuing with the bar analogy - people 'round here are already well-stirred. That's why they come here ... to slam a few back. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: Damn! I Thought there was something wrong with me cuz my body

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2012-09-27 Thread Share Long
: mjackson74 mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Damn! I Thought there was something wrong with me cuz my body consciousness was disappearing! But you are right - I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
emptybill: Look Jackson, your gonna cause his head to explode. Isn't this just like an ex-TM teacher - still trying to hide the truth about the TM bija mantras. Go figure. People! The TM bija mantras were made up by tantric Buddhists in the year 401 AD during the Gupta Age in India by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   Damn! I Thought there was something wrong with me cuz my body consciousness was disappearing! But you are right - I probably should posting this stuff - it is getting too many people stirred up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread mjackson74
Well, Geeze Richard, when I learned the mantra I was only 17 years old and we were told it had no meaning - had I known I might have given them some crap about it, but I was a trusting soul in them days. You are however making unwarranted assumptions about my practice of japa - I have only

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2012-09-27 Thread Share Long
5:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   mjackson74: When I use my three TM mantras... So, you paid $65 for a 'secret word' that you don't even where it came from. LoL! But, you only get one bija mantra in TM - that's already been established. You're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

2012-09-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share Long: I guess it's all about mantras LOL LoL!!! 'Bija' mantras have no semantic meaning; 'mantras' are words used in the Vedic rituals. You can do japa with bijas, but you'd need to know Sanskrit in order to chant the mantras in the Vedas. According to Brooks, the bijas are

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2012-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then you need to find a teacher who will teach you some mantra shastra. You won't find one in TM so you'll have to look elsewhere. Swami Sivananda was famous for teaching it. My tantric guru teaches it too. He also

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2012-09-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh Uncle Barry2-ji - you are not helping MJ here OK - please stop this mindless, mantra, madness. Here's a man dulled by god knows 40-50 years of chanting - let him just watch Panthers football and recuperate. On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** If you

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2012-09-27 Thread Michael Jackson
is so much fun - Part 2   If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then you need to find a teacher who will teach you some mantra shastra. You won't find one in TM so you'll have to look elsewhere. Swami Sivananda was famous for teaching it. My tantric guru teaches

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2012-09-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
-- *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how

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2012-09-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
? http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2007/haug07/sci.shtml -- *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

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2012-09-27 Thread Michael Jackson
for Georgia Tec - as big as he is I am glad I never faced him on the field. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part

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2012-09-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
*Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 Oh Uncle Barry2-ji - you are not helping MJ here OK - please stop this mindless, mantra, madness. Here's a man dulled by god knows 40-50 years of chanting - let him just watch

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2012-09-27 Thread Michael Jackson
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2   I am too wimpy to like football - never heard of that excuse to not watch sports. Well I don't care about all that MJ,  enough of these stupid excuses

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2012-09-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
, 2012 11:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2 I am too wimpy to like football - never heard of that excuse to not watch sports. Well I don't care about all that MJ, enough of these stupid excuses - they have Drew Brees and so they should be doing