[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: lol-- you crack me up! He reminds me of the right-wing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Robert
(snip) He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill Clinton, his drug deals, and so on. If you seemed dubious, they'd haul out ever-more- spectacular stories about his sins, as if the worse things they said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:07 AM, Robert wrote: (snip) He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill Clinton, his drug deals, and so on. If you seemed dubious, they'd haul out ever-more- spectacular stories about his sins, as if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: exactly, what a nut case - what a skewed perspective of both the Maharishi, and V's idol, Hi$ Holine$$ the Dalai Lama... the guy just went ballistic when i pointed out the dubious finances of Hi$ Holine$$. Says the retard wearing women's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Kirk
: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3 On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: exactly, what a nut case - what a skewed perspective of both the Maharishi, and V's idol, Hi$ Holine$$ the Dalai Lama... the guy just went ballistic when i pointed out the dubious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: exactly, what a nut case - what a skewed perspective of both the Maharishi, and V's idol, Hi$ Holine$$ the Dalai Lama... the guy just went ballistic when i pointed out the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So it's fascinating to me the out-and-out moral cowardice of people like Jerry Jarvis... I am NOT going to join in with the Bash Jerry campaign, Vaj. I liked the guy. I probably still would. Someone gave me his phone number recently, but I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Kirk wrote: Vaj, you can't compare TMO and Trungpa's Shamballah. Also, in some ways the new day Shamballah of Nova Scotia and the Raja wearing TMO are not so very different at all. Doesn't sound like you understand the differences. One tries to create a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
Is this 'Vaj the Nath' or 'Vaj the Dhatu' posting? At one point you agreed with the Naths, now you're supporting the Dhatus? This doesn't even make any sense. What would a Nath be having to do with a Dhatu? And what's with the '108' - is that the number initiations you've had or the number of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Is this 'Vaj the Nath' or 'Vaj the Dhatu' posting? At one point you agreed with the Naths, now you're supporting the Dhatus? This doesn't even make any sense. What would a Nath be having to do with a Dhatu? And what's with the '108' - is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Kirk
To be more accurate, Vaj, it has nothing to do with authentic teachers or teachings. What sets them off is that it's someone other than Maharishi. To them, *by definition* that rules out authentic. -Actually they are going postal - just virtually. Better here than elsewhere.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
lol-- you crack me up! Judy wrote: He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill Clinton, his drug deals, and so on. If you seemed dubious, they'd haul out ever-more- spectacular stories about his sins, as if the worse

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: lol-- you crack me up! Judy wrote: He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill Clinton, his drug deals, and so on. If you seemed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
...the guy just went ballistic when i pointed out the dubious finances of Hi$ Holine$$. Judy wrote: It isn't as if Clinton or MMY didn't have major flaws, but the over-the-top demonization is a sign that something just isn't right in the heads of those indulging in it. Yeah, I agree,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Kirk
- Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3 On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Kirk wrote: Vaj, you can't compare TMO and Trungpa's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: Says the retard wearing women's clothing, who claims to be enlightened, who has been lying to everyone here about who he is for months, and who during that entire time has been going ballistic trying to demonize Vaj. As some have noticed, I have a low tolerance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
He reminds me of that left-wing crackpot, Bill Moyers, who went around with J. Edgar trying to dig up dirt on people, waving around lists of people he thought were gay. So Willy thinks Texans and the FBI are big douchbags. So, you're a Bill Moyer's watcher - I thought so.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
vajradhatu108 wrote: You're questions don't even make sense, let alone sound sincere. You seem very confused. Just wondering how a 'Nath' got mixed up with the 'Dhatus'. What's up with the '108'?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: They never paid their dues. They never became TM teachers. They hung out on the periphery of the TM movement, securely wrapped in their developed-at-a-distance fantasies. About Maharishi, about the TMO, and about TM itself. Nabby is an exception in that he does seem to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Kirk wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Kirk wrote: Vaj, you can't compare TMO and Trungpa's Shamballah. Also, in some ways the new day Shamballah of Nova Scotia and the Raja wearing TMO are not so very different at all. Doesn't sound like you understand

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Duveyoung
In my travels on the Pacific Rim, there were soldiers standing at stiff attention everywhere. Scary when soldiers are cops. In Taiwan, they have all the highways dotted with guards -- why? cuz mainland China might try to land airplanes on them if they invade. Everywhere in Taiwan you see these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip Pretty funny that whenever something is posted on authentic teachers styles or teaching characteristics, it just seems to set these people off. To be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: exactly, what a nut case - what a skewed perspective of both the Maharishi, and V's idol, Hi$ Holine$$ the Dalai Lama... the guy just went ballistic when i pointed out the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: exactly, what a nut case - what a skewed perspective of both the Maharishi, and V's idol, Hi$ Holine$$ the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: He reminds me of that left-wing crackpot, Bill Moyers, who went around with J. Edgar trying to dig up dirt on people, waving around lists of people he thought were gay. So Willy thinks Texans and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 Barry tries so desperately to get a response from someone, anyone...and yet so few even listen to him anymore. he writes the most, yet garners the least discussion regarding anything he writes. perhaps it is because he gets on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:07 AM, Robert wrote: (snip) He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill Clinton, his drug deals, and so on. If you seemed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Vaj wrote: But of course that's just what an enabler does. But that is ultimately his decision and yes, he is very much a likable guy, I don't dispute that one bit. If he wishes to remain silent, he sure shares that conspiracy of silence with a lot of others.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-23 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Vaj wrote: But of course that's just what an enabler does. But that is ultimately his decision and yes, he is very much a likable guy, I don't dispute that one bit. If he wishes to remain silent, he sure

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Interesting excerpt as it touches on why some gurus are simply not suitable to teach a path to liberation but actually are seeking refuge in acquisitiveness. -V. - you may want to take another look at Hi$ Holine$$

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Interesting excerpt as it touches on why some gurus are simply not suitable to teach a path to liberation but actually are seeking refuge in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Interesting excerpt as it touches on why some gurus are simply not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread Vaj
On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:33 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Interesting excerpt as it touches on why some gurus are simply not suitable to teach a path to liberation but actually are seeking refuge in acquisitiveness. -V. -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
for what it is worth, i think he is a nice guy too, from what i have seen. i also agree that spiritually he is in the dime a dozen category. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
lol-- you crack me up! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:33 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Interesting excerpt as it touches on why some gurus are simply not suitable to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: lol-- you crack me up! He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill Clinton, his drug deals, and so on. If you seemed dubious, they'd haul out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: lol-- you crack me up! He reminds me of the right-wing crackpots who went around waving lists of the people supposedly murdered by Bill

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher 3

2009-02-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: lol-- you crack me up! He reminds me of the right-wing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip I think they're an important part of the mix. I find Nabby one of the most entertaining posters here, although not in the way he wants to be

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher WHY THE NEED for tmo TBs to try to enforce official

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-20 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: They are; Barry and Vaj are receiving sponsorship for their long-time anti knowledge, anti TM-activities at FFL. OK, the Maitreya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: They are; Barry and Vaj are receiving sponsorship for their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread enlightened_dawn11
definitely not-- i became weary of his constant disrespectful references to the Maharishi, insinuating and openly stating that the man was a sexual predator, a con artist, and someone who taught and propagated harmful techniques. absolutely shameful, disgusting statements from Vaj. enough is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: They are; Barry and Vaj are receiving sponsorship for their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: They are; Barry and Vaj are receiving sponsorship for their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip YMMV. So, obviously, does yours, Judy. Please point us to the posts of yours in which you have expressed strong criticism of Nablus or ed11 when *they* belittled Buddhists and Buddhism. Are those not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Vaj
On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: As for Maharishi getting his leg over, Vaj did not originate those rumors. I first heard them while I was still part of the TM movement. There is a huge file of information (documentation) on the subject in the FFL file section. So it's not as if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: definitely not-- i became weary of his constant disrespectful references to the Maharishi, insinuating and openly stating that the man was a sexual predator, a con artist, and someone who taught and propagated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: In the case of Vaj and Barry are being paid by the CIA and Vaj is a plant working on orders from the Hare Krishna movement there is no documentation. I don't think it's out of the question to ask for some. emptybill has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... The security risk thing is what I have heard from sources in the USA. One poster on this forum that was there at the time even said you where deliberately kept outside Maharishi's room and not allowed to enter under any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip If Vaj had been peacefully discoursing on his personal beliefs, or even disagreeing *respectfully* with ours, and ed11 and Nabby

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: And who else would you hold responsible for the general attitude that led to Levi Butler's death at MUM. The way the story was told in the press

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ The security risk thing is what I have heard from sources in the USA. One poster on this forum that was there at the time even said you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: I never tried to get into His room or see Him in any way, never. Whenever I was in His suite it was by invitation. OK so you don't know that the response to anyone who wanted to see him was no unless the person was very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Probably for good reasons judging from his behavior on this forum. Yeah, not being rich, famous, or the person Maharishi wanted to see

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:37 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip YMMV. So, obviously, does yours, Judy. Please point us to the posts of yours in which you have expressed strong criticism of Nablus or ed11 when *they* belittled

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip I find Vaj pretty consistently focused on his criticism of the teaching itself. He is blunt in his POV that doesn't put Maharishi in a flattering light. Note that I said or even disagreeing *respectfully* with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Or a security problem. Those people labeled as such never got close to any door that Maharishi was behind. I know this from being on this duty in DC. Your claim is still false and deceptively malicious. --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Richard M wrote: And who else would you hold responsible for the general attitude that led to Levi Butler's death at MUM. The way the story was told in the press (documentation), the MUM Dean who was supposed to be watching the person who had just attacked another

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: And who else would you hold responsible for the general attitude that led to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Vaj
On Feb 18, 2009, at 12:32 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I object to Vaj's MMY's got blood on his hands. It's pretty outrageous, but so was Maharishi. Again, were you there when suicides on TM courses were quickly covered up? I was. Who do you think ordered the coverups? I forgot to add, and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Or a security problem. Those people labeled as such never got close to any door that Maharishi was behind. I know this from being on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I never tried to get into His room or see Him in any way, never.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: DC was when - 1984 ? Much changed regarding security from the times the = Turq was around and 1984. I had spent plenty of time in 75 at his frat at MIU so I know how security was run in that era too. Same thing. Everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I find Vaj pretty consistently focused on his criticism of the teaching itself. He is blunt in his POV that doesn't put Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip snip As opposed to Nabby's behavior -- making stories like this up to demonize the people he doesn't like, *admitting* that he made them up, and then trotting them out later. Now *that* is the model for ideal behavior,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But you used the term world view, which you should know is incorrect. Not to me. The big leap is the buy-in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Kirk
Vaj's guru is not Norbu. Please leave Norbu out of this discussion. - Original Message - From: yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher --MMY's Unity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: debate as being between equals, Debate among equals! It is good enough to be added to the description section IMO. This is the core assumption that makes discussions here enriching. Or anywhere else for that matter. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Kirk
his belief system is mere brand loyalty, as shallow as those who practice it while shopping at the mall, only applied to spiritual advancement. oh well, better luck next time, Vaj! Hello, and wake up!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Kirk
I'm trying to understand your point. Is the difference that MMY was a public figure and Vaj is not? Is that a difference that makes a difference? ---Actually Maharishi started it when he said HHDL was 'just a politician.' This has influenced lots of TM people against Buddhism at the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-18 Thread Vaj
On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Kirk wrote: I'm trying to understand your point. Is the difference that MMY was a public figure and Vaj is not? Is that a difference that makes a difference? ---Actually Maharishi started it when he said HHDL was 'just a politician.' This has influenced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher, part 2

2009-02-18 Thread enlightened_dawn11
sentimental tripe. by the way, do they call him the 14th Lama the same way hotels and office buildings skip the 13th floor and go from 12th to 14th? cause it seems to the people of tibet he should've been the 13th- very unlucky for them (but living the jet set life himself). --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:14 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: sounds like HH the DL describes the Maharishi as an excellent and qualified teacher. good for him!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: From Becoming Enlightened by HH the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso (2009). (snip) Dali has never claimed to be enlightened, and I don't believe he is. I was in his presence, a few years ago, when he visited Madison. There is no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: From Becoming Enlightened by HH the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso (2009). (snip) Dali has never claimed to be enlightened, and I don't believe he is. I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Should we go through the criteria, one by one? I'd really enjoy that. Let's do it! Oh, yes, let's! Why don't we start with this: If you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Should we go through the criteria, one by one? I'd really enjoy that.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:19 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: funny to see Vaj so freaked out that His Holiness the Dalai Lama has proclaimed the Maharishi as an excellent and fit teacher! Because you want to believe that I guess. I'm not freaked out at all, I found your suggestion hilarious.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: From Becoming Enlightened by HH the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso (2009). Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher In general a teacher is useful for gaining knowledge, and it is particularly important for a teacher of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:44 AM, Robert wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: From Becoming Enlightened by HH the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso (2009). (snip) Dali has never claimed to be enlightened, and I don't believe he is. That's true, he would never

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:44 AM, Robert wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: From Becoming Enlightened by HH the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso (2009). (snip) Dali has never claimed to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:14 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: sounds like HH the DL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (World domination. Hilarious.) Should we go through the criteria, one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: This post has some interesting insight. I think Judy's description of her own motives seem accurate. I know she also has a deep emotional investment in Maharishi's world view, but that seems natural given her years of practice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:06 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: For Vaj, as I understand his POV, he believes that Judy is actually not experiencing what she thinks she is in TM. He believes that she would be better served with another practice of meditation. Unless there's some other post, written

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:06 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: For Vaj, as I understand his POV, he believes that Judy is actually not experiencing what she thinks she is in TM. He believes that she would be better served with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I'm not a tmo TB by any stretch, although I suspect you're including me here. No I don't. You use a different language generally and you use more objective logic. In fact my guess is that if you were to actually work for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: This post has some interesting insight. I think Judy's description of her own motives seem accurate. For the record, Curtis, I do not. If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: This post has some interesting insight. I think Judy's description

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: This post has some interesting insight. I think Judy's description of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing the Qualifications of a Teacher

2009-02-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Barry's always at his most, um, transparently creative when he's trying to extricate his dick from a wringer. This Turq fellow needs to spend less time on the internet and more time walking with dogs. Good for dogs, good for

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