--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think that love and critical faculties are mutually
exclusive. One should never abdicate one's critical faculties.
If a spiritual teacher tells you to do so, head for the door.
I couldn't agree more, and find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
I don't think that love and critical faculties are mutually
exclusive. One should never abdicate one's critical faculties.
If a spiritual teacher
On May 26, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
You don't deserve that treatment Tom.
Uh, oh, Ricky, you blew it here. Revealing this guy's name undoubtedly
shows your true hidden agenda, passive-aggressive nature, and general
fundamentalist way of thinking. And don't tell us you didn't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
I don't think that love and critical faculties are mutually
exclusive. One
I don't think that love and critical faculties are
mutually exclusive. One should never abdicate one's
critical faculties. If a spiritual teacher tells you
to do so, head for the door.
TurquoiseB wrote:
I couldn't agree more, and find the assertion to
the opposite -- that one should
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:53 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we
engage in a discussion about th
I don't think that
I don't think that love and critical faculties are
mutually exclusive. One should never abdicate one's
critical faculties. If a spiritual teacher tells you
to do so, head for the door.
TurquoiseB wrote:
I couldn't agree more, and find the assertion to
the opposite -- that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
I don't think that love and critical faculties are
mutually exclusive. One should never abdicate one's
critical faculties. If a spiritual teacher tells you
to do so, head
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
I don't think that love and critical faculties are mutually
exclusive. One
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
Rick's friend
sounds like he'd be shocked to learn that MMY also pees from a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@
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On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:58 AM
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we
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--- In
I finally got around to responding to this guy. Here it is:
Ricky,
all these
oppositions you have, we could take each one, one at a time, and
examine them, like the Zimbabwe dictator, Maharishi and Mia Farrow
and the rest, the tallest building, Rajas, etc. etc. etc., but the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---Thanks, most interesting, as usual!. After you master out of body
travel to other planets, here's some questions for you:
Assuming there are intelligent creatures on other planets, do such
civilizations have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In the 21st century people will only listen to research published
peer-reviewed scientific journals, not heresay, conspiracy theories,
and the meandering monologues posted here. This is a fact of life.
There is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
In the 21st century people will only listen to research published
peer-reviewed scientific journals, not heresay, conspiracy theories,
and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This discussion is fascinating to me. Both Rick's and Turq's
experiences. What makes it more riveting for me is that both
of you have maintained a spiritual perspective, but not one
that conforms to a specific
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Lol, the guy is right Rick. You are already set in your
conclusions, and have fundamentalist beliefs based on
heresay and gossip. Your letter to him shows a complete
stagnancy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
It takes so little personal maturity to accept that everyone
does not agree with everything you value. That is not too
much to ask
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
I said:
I thought a lot about this and kind of felt my way into it
during meditation, and here's what I think (and feel). I love
you, Bobby,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
It takes so little personal maturity to accept that everyone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you don't FEEL
comfortable seeing Maharishi as ... the
only Rishi in history who has cognized all the vedas,
When did this become part of the TMO story, belief, knowledge,
dogma, catechism?
This is going to
On May 23, 2007, at 8:02 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
you don't FEEL
comfortable seeing Maharishi as ... the
only Rishi in history who has cognized all the vedas,
When did this become part of the TMO story,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Lurk, get it right: Mahesh COGNIZED penicillin and then
travelled
back in time to place it's discovery at the correct place in the
unfoldment of natural law. This was after he cognised 1/3 a
commentary of the gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I think that you know (and, like me, have probably
seen it happen) that even if the legal system found some-
thing dreadfully illegal about the TMO's activities, or
about Marharishi's activies, there are people who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
you don't FEEL
comfortable seeing Maharishi as ... the
only Rishi in history who has cognized all the vedas,
When did this become
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
...you don't FEEL
comfortable seeing Maharishi as ... the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And yet, is it our business to somehow convince
them that this is what they're doing?
I ask because one poster on this forum suggested
as much yesterday. The implication (possibly unin-
tended) of the post was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
In contrast, those who cling so strongly to what
they believe now, to the point of being incapable
of stating even the *possibility* that these beliefs
might be less than perfect, have made a commitment
to STAYING
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
snip
Yes Rick, Good People doing bad things, continuing to support
such an organization as it has become.
And yet, is it our business to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
And yet, is it our business to somehow convince
them that this is what they're doing?
. . .
I ask because one poster on this forum suggested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
In contrast, those who cling so strongly to what
they believe now, to the point of being incapable
of stating even the *possibility* that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Not arguing, just some points your post triggered.
A second, separate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
But it's not quite
as easy to do so when what you're defending is an
active attempt to impose one's own spiritual beliefs
on another person.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:33 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we
engage in a discussion about th
--- In
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of new.morning
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:52 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we
engage in a discussion about th
you don't FEEL
comfortable
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
snip
A second, separate point, I liked Judy's post yesterday, it
was a good counter that made me think a bit. The gist --
parapharsing racism IS
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
You're making the leap you were intended to make
here, dude, thinking racism when you should be
thinking trying to convert someone else of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
But it's not quite
as easy to do so when what you're defending is an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
In contrast, those who cling so strongly to what
they believe now, to the point of being incapable
of stating even the *possibility* that
Judy's question yesterday got me thinking. I am not a moral
relativist so I do have beliefs that I think are right. I also hold
values that I consider better than some I encounter. How this all
plays out in my discussions with people is another story...
I live in an immigrant community and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:33 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy's question yesterday got me thinking. I am not a moral
relativist so I do have beliefs that I think are right. I
also hold values that I consider better than some I encounter.
How this all plays out in my
You have just taken a moral relativist position. You took
courses in philosophy at MUM, right?
FYI: Moral relativism is a philosophy in which the person
makes claims to socially relative positions, not universal
moral values. Moral relativists deny that there are any
universal standards by
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we
engage in a discussion about th
You are kidding yourself
I am not a moral relativist. I can understand why a culture believes
as they do without agreeing with them. I believe that not being
prejudiced is a higher moral value and should be pursued and protected
when possible by law. This does not mean that in every conversation
my goal is to do more
On May 23, 2007, at 10:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
The Japanese who were trying to deal with the
Catholic priests who were trying to convert them
(in a time and place in which one *never* tried to
impose one's religion on another person) had a term
that they applied to that sad period of history.
On May 23, 2007, at 10:43 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I never met a white racist that would put black people
to the paper bag test but this not an uncommon racist view in black
culture. Asians hate each other so much that I think the term Asian
is useless.
Oh, the white folks hate the black
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
In contrast, those who cling so strongly to what
they believe now,
---Thanks, most interesting, as usual!. After you master out of body
travel to other planets, here's some questions for you:
Assuming there are intelligent creatures on other planets, do such
civilizations have the equivalent of
1. NASCAR
2. What types of music: a. Country and Western, b.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---Thanks, most interesting, as usual!. After you master out of
body
travel to other planets, here's some questions for you:
Assuming there are intelligent creatures on other planets, do such
civilizations have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dude-ji! I was just thinking about the whole particle/wave
perception alternation, though I didn't carry it into group
dynamics
as you have. Yummy stuff!
On another topic, I've been noticing some interesting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Dude-ji! I was just thinking about the whole particle/wave
perception alternation, though I didn't carry it into group
dynamics
as you have.
This discussion is fascinating to me. Both Rick's and Turq's
experiences. What makes it more riveting for me is that both of you
have maintained a spiritual perspective, but not one that conforms to
a specific version or dogma. I can easily see that a Purusha guy
would dismiss my position that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It takes so little personal maturity to accept that everyone
does not agree with everything you value. That is not too
much to ask is it?
No comment. I just thought these lines were
worth repeating, is all.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:46 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This discussion is fascinating to me. Both Rick's and Turq's
experiences. What makes it more riveting for me is that both of you
have maintained a spiritual perspective, but not one that conforms
to
a
On May 22, 2007, at 11:57 AM, boo_lives wrote:
First of all scientific research doesn't prove anything about TM, with
the possible exception that it's good for high blood pressure.
Well, let's keep in mind, if you use a control who's doing a
relaxation style technique for comparison,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 22, 2007, at 11:57 AM, boo_lives wrote:
First of all scientific research doesn't prove anything about TM,
with
the possible exception that it's good for high blood pressure.
Well, let's keep in mind, if you use
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
It takes so little personal maturity to accept that everyone
does not agree with everything you value.
I suspect everyone accepts that this is the case,
unless they've been so insulated from people who
think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:46 AM
To:
you don't FEEL
comfortable seeing Maharishi as ... the
only Rishi in history who has cognized all the vedas,
When did this become part of the TMO story, belief, knowledge,
dogma, catechism?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 22, 2007, at 11:57 AM, boo_lives wrote:
First of all scientific research doesn't prove anything about
TM, with
the possible exception that it's good for high blood pressure.
Well, let's keep in mind, if you use
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