--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
The / a lesson from witnessing this huge QA parade was that:
1) experiences were natural, they were not something to make a big
fuss about, no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Not true. Different states of consciousness exist; I have
experienced many of the ones Maharishi talked about. What
I am not sold on is that any of them were higher. I am
content to interpret my experiences as merely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Turq, I am unable to keep up these conversations in real time,
but I have some comments in the exchanges below.
Dude, that subject is so last week by now. What you
are asking about are multiple experiences
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Turq, I am unable to keep up these conversations in real
time, but I have some comments in the exchanges below.
I'll follow up a little, now that I've had my coffee,
and try to explain to you why I'm not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
I agree - this is odd, to say the least - that your Master (at the
time) would not say something to you quietly just to acknowledge the
experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Thanks for your reply. I have nothing to say about it
because, after all, what
Thank you for your reply. Not informative for my curiosity about these things.
I was just curious. I had not intended to 'lock horns' on this one, as you put
it. However, I suppose if someone wanted to really get you to talk more openly
about things, the spiritual technique of waterboarding
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My favorite such moment, just as a suddenly-triggered-
memory aside, took place in Amsterdam. Me and a bunch of
other guys had gone there to teach
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
As it turned out,
at the height of this experience he was giving advanced
techniques and I got to go up and sit by his side,
literally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
when people didn't respond to his announced enlight-
enmentitudeness the way he wanted them to.
As elaborated in an adjacent post, the 10,000 QA at the mic between MMY and
those on the course were often about experiences.
Tart, *not* wishing to argue with you or diminish what you say in any
way, just presenting a Deva's Advocate position the same way Curtis
might, do you notice that the personalized feedback I have highlighted
below, along with my occasional comments in brackets, is a lot like
cold
reading of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Tart, *not* wishing to argue with you or diminish what you say in any
way, just presenting a Deva's Advocate position the same way Curtis
might, do you notice that the personalized feedback I have highlighted
below, along
when people didn't respond to his announced enlight-
enmentitudeness the way he wanted them to...
tartbrain:
3) one generally didn't talk about their experiences
outside of the QA with MMY. Progress was being made
was the only important thing. No need to talk about
it or broadcast
turquoiseb:
I *did* experience what I experienced...
Perception is reality?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
when people didn't respond to his announced enlight-
enmentitudeness the way he wanted them to...
tartbrain:
3) one generally didn't talk about their experiences
outside of the QA with MMY. Progress was being
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My favorite such moment, just as a suddenly-triggered-
memory aside, took place
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
when people didn't respond to his announced enlight-
enmentitudeness the way he wanted them to.
As elaborated in an adjacent post, the 10,000 QA at
Damn, I'm good.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Tart, *not* wishing to argue with you or diminish what you say in any
way, just presenting a Deva's Advocate position the same way Curtis
might, do you notice that the personalized feedback I have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
IMplicit in MMY's theory of 7 states of consciousness is
the fact that there's no end-point to growth, and therefore
there's no such thing as the 7th state...
authfriend:
Plus which, as I've always understood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
Most spiritual teachers do have the ability to do number two and a
number here might argue they experienced number 2 or what is usually
called darshan even with Maharishi. The guy did have some shakti
after all. If some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Most spiritual teachers do have the ability to do number two and a
number here might argue they experienced number 2 or what is usually
called darshan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Most spiritual teachers do have the ability to do number two
and a number here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
IMplicit in MMY's theory of 7 states of consciousness is the fact that
there's no end-point to growth, and therefore there's no such thing as the
7th state.
For that matter, even within CC, there's room for growth since
On 06/15/2011 03:16 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
Most spiritual teachers do have the ability to do number two and a
number here might argue they experienced number 2 or what is usually
called darshan even with Maharishi. The guy did
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Thanks for your reply. I have nothing to say about it
because, after all, what is there to say? It was your
subjective experience and thus essentially
Turq, I am unable to keep up these conversations in real time, but I have some
comments in the exchanges below.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
Nice idea. I have never
Wayback. Warning!, Warning!, Warning!. Where is the scientific
evidence? Where is the objective verification? Don't you know this is
simple MOODMAKING or RANDAM BRAIN ACTIVITY. You are goring some sacred
cows by describing this experience. For what it's worth, I've also had
nice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
As I said, from my side I never experienced anything
similar with him.
Looking back, I can't say that I ever noticed anything in the way of
darshan from him. I will allow that it could have been too subtle for
me to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
I agree - this is odd, to say the least - that your Master (at the
time) would not say something to you quietly just to acknowledge the
experience you were having. It never occurred to me before that MMY
seemed not to talk to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
There is another way of teaching.
It is possible, for teachers who are capable of such
things, to talk about states of consciousness while
putting on the SOC in question and then radiating or
broadcasting it so
Nice idea. I have never encountered this, although I have encountered one
teacher that could in the space of a few days get a fair number of persons to
experience a shift in SOC, if only temporary, but it was not like a broadcast.
If you have encountered such teachers of the second kind, do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Nice idea. I have never encountered this, although I have
encountered one teacher that could in the space of a few
days get a fair number of persons to experience a shift
in SOC, if only temporary, but it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
And what are the mechanics behind the ability to broadcast
an SOC?
I have no earthly idea. I report only on my subjective
experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
This morning's cafe rap is purely informative. In it
I'll springboard off of one of my favorite quotes of
recent years and how I think it's relevant to two
vastly different forms of spiritual teaching, and why
I prefer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
It was in a very real
sense a hands on demo of Maharishi's Knowledge is different
in different states of consciousness.
As a result of having had this experience, I would reword MMY's
statement as Reality is
IMplicit in MMY's theory of 7 states of consciousness is the fact that there's
no end-point to growth, and therefore there's no such thing as the 7th state.
For that matter, even within CC, there's room for growth since there are plenty
of TMers who have been tested in physiological studies who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
IMplicit in MMY's theory of 7 states of consciousness is
the fact that there's no end-point to growth, and therefore
there's no such thing as the 7th state.
Plus which, as I've always understood it, the whole thing
is a
IMplicit in MMY's theory of 7 states of consciousness is
the fact that there's no end-point to growth, and therefore
there's no such thing as the 7th state...
authfriend:
Plus which, as I've always understood it, the whole thing
is a continuum anyway...
This has been pointed out by
There is another way of teaching...
Bhairitu:
If some folks didn't experience maybe they hit him on
a bad day or their nervous system was just too coarse
to experience it...
Well, I suppose that MMY had that certain something,
in order influence Barry to stay in the TMO for ten
or
You're talking stupid conjecture again Willy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
IMplicit in MMY's theory of 7 states of consciousness is
the fact that there's no end-point to growth, and therefore
there's no such thing as the 7th state...
emptybill:
You're talking stupid conjecture again Willy.
Well, so nobody made any claims about listening to any
of MMY public recordings, I assumed nobody had ever heard
them. It's just interesting that of all the informants
making claims here, that none of them own a copy of his
records,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:
On Jun 14, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Most spiritual teachers do have the ability to do number two
Taken by itself, that is easily the sentence of the week.
LOL.
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