[FairfieldLife] NoLu??
Nokia's Android phone?? https://twitter.com/nokia/status/422689234286170112/photo/1 http://https://twitter.com/nokia/status/422689234286170112/photo/1
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Hooray! Any day soon we get rid of those methane farting cows... http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2 http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
[FairfieldLife] NoLu??
Nokia's Android phone??? https://twitter.com/nokia/status/422689234286170112/photo/1 https://twitter.com/nokia/status/422689234286170112/photo/1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Asymmetric Dress-Codes and Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
Barry, Yo, you try so damned hard to be different, that you end up looking like a shapeless blob of absolute conformity. *Trying* to be cool, makes you anything *but* cool. You remind me of the poseurs my daughter encounters in the City - All of the once hip accoutrements you have, now stale bells, accompanying your song of desperate existence. Nothing personal, dude - you are about as hip as a cardboard box. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: IMO any attempt at a standardized dress code or uniform is an exercise born out of fear, and in the direction of suppression of individuality. This is as true in the military as it is in cults. They make soldiers wear the same uniforms so that they'll become uniform, and follow orders. They do the same thing in cults and religious traditions. Interestingly, there have been a number of anthropological and sociological studies on uniforms and uniform dress, and they all seem to indicate that one can learn a lot about groupthink from how the group tries to costume their thinkers. For example, in the police or the military, the more black and glossy and clean-pressed the uniforms, the more Fascist and control-freak the organization is. In cults and religions, the more asexual or non-sexual the group uniform is, the more they fear and are obsessed with normal human sexuality. No one here should be surprised that I don't think much of uniforms, or of the notion of unisex clothing as a positive thing. In any environment, but especially in the TMO. Whether it was Maharishi saying Wear your suit at all times...even to the beach or the shunning that took place when a woman wore something other than a shapeless, floor-length gunny sack to a meeting he was in, it *always* struck me as stupid and reactive and as a way to try to force the followers to make themselves fit into Maharishi's own desire and limitation pigeonholdes. He wanted his male teachers to look like businessmen because he was always more interested in business and making money than anything else. And he didn't want women looking like women because he was attracted to them, and couldn't admit that. So he wanted them to hide their bodies the same way he hid his desires and his actual predatory seductions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: From symmetric to asymmetric dress-code, from a uniformity of business suits and schoolmarmish attire at a time in TM over to Raja crowns and robes was useful to the cause and without significant subtle effect in TM history? For group cohesion of consciousness of the lower form? Was bad theatre or brilliant leadership for the cause? Trendline when looked at? If they who thus afflicted us, continued to lay Claim to Religion, and were assisted in their Business by others, esteemed Pious People, who through a Friendship with them strengthened their Hands in Tyranny: In Such a State, when we were (spiritually) Hunger-bitten, and could not have sufficient Nourishment, but saw them in Fulness pleasing their Taste with Things fetched from afar: When we were wearied with Labour, denied the Liberty to (meditate) rest, and saw them spending their Time at Ease: When Garments answerable to our Necessities were denied us, while we saw them clothed in that which was costly and delicate: Under such Affliction, how would these painful Feelings rise up as Witness against their pretended Devotion! And if the Name of their Religion was mention'd in our Hearing, how would it sound in our Ears like a Word which signified Self-exaltation, and Hardness of Heart! -John Woolman But woe this other aspect of resentment of differentials as detriment in groups in which asymmetric style differentials can bring to a podium. . Thinking of robes, medallions, gold hats, crowns and such arrayed across a stage in front of an audience, an array that embarks on mixed signals to the higher human mind in the theatre of differentials that dress-code differentials can impose when not well used in groups. That proly explains some lot of an erosion in rank-and-file of what were once large spiritual movements. Loss of touch with reality between the podium and the audience. The asymmetric differential becomes too damned haughty. âMay we look upon our treasures, the furniture of our houses, and our garments, and try whether the seeds of war have nourishment in these our possessions. Holding treasures in the self-pleasing spirit is a strong plant, the fruit whereof ripens fast. A day of outward distress is coming and Divine Love calls for us to prepare against it.â John Woolman, Journal, Whittier Edition (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1871), Appendix, p. 307 Yep, certainly Maharishi had us in a uniformity of business suits and schoolmarmish attire at a time. John Woolman and Quaker simplicity or Mao in symmetric dress-code movement too for
[FairfieldLife] RE: Happy Happy 12 January
This is the time of the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. I am only giving expression to the phenomenon that is taking place. One percent of the people in any country can herald the dawn of a new age for the whole nation by devoting only fifteen minutes of their time twice a day. It is in the hands of a few individuals in every country today to change the direction of time and guide the destiny of their nation for all harmony, happiness, and progress. It is my joy to invite everyone to come in the light of the knowledge and experience that the Science of Creative Intelligence provides and enjoy participating in this global awakening to herald the Age of Enlightenment. -Maharishi 12 January 1975
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
In most cases,with all that long, grey hair, they look to me, as if they can't wait to get home, to push Hansel and Gretel into the oven. Natural color is natural, but trimming the split ends, using a conditioner, and styling the cut, is my vast preference for women's grey or silver hair. As for guys, no more faux-hawks, or con-style mustache and goatees (done to DEATH), and no, the new neo-beatnik peach-fuzz beard look, is NOT a winner. Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, I've only seen one woman in FF with hair down to her ankles but lots of women in the Dome with hair down to their waist, etc. I like that older women feel free enough to let their grey or greying hair grow long. On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:26 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Do the bibs always go with long hair down to the ankles, or just in the case of this one woman? Ann, bibs is farmer shortcut language for shapeless pale peach colored or coloured bib overalls and yes, they go down to the ankles. I think they wear them for warmth. Go figure! Buck, what about the woman who walks around FF in shapeless bibs, with her long blond hair streaming...down to her ankles?! You gonna make her cut her very feminine hair? Have everybody shave their heads?!
[FairfieldLife] Asymmetric Dress-code: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
The Kaiser imagined that war would unite his loyal subjects. On the very eve of war - the morning of 4 August 1914 - he announced that from that moment he recognised no political divisions, no political parties. From this day on, I recognise only Germans, he said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25635311 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25635311 Buck wrote: Aside from the discussion of uni-sex dress-code, Asymmetric dress-code certainly are used to help generate group cohesion and employed too as fealty tests in hazing to winnow group memberships. The TM movement wore suits and ties or schoolmarm when most everybody else was in bell-bottom jean and tie-dye. Want to be involved, cut your hair. Think pictures and video presently of TM-Raja in parliament. Or that German Raja on stage in Berlin with Bevan, David Lynch and John Hagelin. It was more than a million bucks that got and keeps those Raja seated in the hall. Group organization is also always about fealty to some degree metered by some who can to make a group. Groups are always ultimately more important than the individuals they serve or groups fail. In Nature as an altruistic evolutionary skillset it is up to the individual as to whether they want to be involved in groups or do groups at all; such is Darwin-ism always at work. Some people and even some groups depending on individuals obviously are better at doing groups than others. Say what you will Maharishi has master-minded a transition of his movement after him. Asymmetric dress-code was but one aspect of securing the organization of his movement. Jai Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: --- s3raphita wrote: The line I am a great believer in the uni-sex dress-code was copied over (by Yahoo not me!) from a post by Jason. I don't advocate any dress codes. Jason can defend that view if he wishes. --- TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote: Just in case you were wondering, I understood that, and so my rap this morning was a reply to Jason as much as it was Buck, who tried to springboard off of it with more of his gotta keep the sinners in line any way we can horseshit. I don't advocate any kind of dress code, but *especially* one that tries to make women or men look sexless. I, for one, would love to hear Jason defend that idea, and doubt that he could. I extended my rap to cover the uniforms worn by various religious groups and cults. Historically, such uniforms (special dress for priests, monks, or nuns, or even recommended dress for lay people) are about mind control more than anything else. The priesthood always needed something to *make themselves seem better or more special, and wearing certain robes that no one else was able to wear was one way to achieve that, and thus achieve the control they wanted to maintain over their flocks. Note that in most cults or religious orders, the robes/costumes worn by lower class monks are usually different and less ornate and special than those worn by people higher up in the hierarchy. (Think the ludicrous costumes worn by TMO Rajas) This is also about control. Making the monks and nuns wear costumes, period, is also an aspect of control freakdom, because the higher-ups want to remind them at all times that they are part of an org that is better and more powerful than they are, and to remind them of their vows, meaning their willingness to follow rules laid on them by other people. One thing I think you'll find if you look into it is that those on this forum recommending uniforms for monks, nuns, and other members of religious or spiritual organizations have in most cases never been actual *members* of such organizations. In other words, they're trying to justify rules they never followed. Similarly, when people like Jason mouth off about unisex clothing, I think you'll find that they're always talking about making the women look more like men. That was the point of me posting my photo of the guy from Rocky Horror wearing a corset, garter belt, stockings, and high heels. If ALL men and women dressed like that, that would be unisex. But I think we all know that's not exactly what Jason had in mind. I kinda doubt he's going to be the first in line to get his dress and high heels and wear them everywhere. :-) That is exactly the point. You wouldn't dress like a woman when you go to work. Your employer just wouldn't accept it. My point is that it perpetuates gender related prejudices and bias on a very subtle level. People can dress as they want in their private spaces (homes). In public spaces, some degree of conservative uni-dress-code will enable women to break glass ceilings. It also encourages comradeship and makes them feel that they are part of the 'family'. It's
[FairfieldLife] Jim Beam, made in Japan
January 13, 2014, 7:20 am My Old Osaka Home: Suntory of Japan to Buy Maker of Jim Beam By MICHAEL J. DE LA MERCED and DAVID GELLES Few spirits are as American as bourbon. But the maker of some of whiskey’s most iconic brands, including Jim Beam and Maker’s Mark, will soon belong to an acquisitive Japanese beverage maker. In a deal announced on Monday to buy Beam Inc. for $13.6 billion, Suntory of Japan struck one of the biggest takeovers in the liquor business in years, transforming it into the third-largest distiller globally. The acquisition may also signal the last mega-deal in the spirits industry for some time. Beam has long been considered the most attractive big target for consolidation. Rivals like Brown-Forman, the maker of Jack Daniel’s, are controlled by families, performing well on their own and have shown little interest in potential takeovers. The giants of the business — Diageo of Britain and Pernod Ricard of France — face many constraints on their ability to grow by mergers. While the two companies had considered bidding for the American whiskey producer, neither ultimately moved ahead. Beam instead was claimed by Suntory, a privately held concern whose beverage empire already encompasses Yamazaki Japanese whisky and Bowmore Scotch. If completed, the deal will add not only Jim Beam, but also pricier higher-end brands like Baker’s and Knob Creek bourbon, Laphroaig and Teacher’s Scotch and Courvoisier cognac. The sale of Beam was a fate many analysts had predicted since its predecessor, Fortune Brands, announced plans to break itself up more than three years ago under pressure from the activist investor William A. Ackman. The conglomerate, which produced liquor, Titleist golf balls and Moen faucets, eventually sold its golf equipment business and spun out its home products division. What was left was one of the country’s biggest producers of bourbon and the beneficiary of a resurging interest in American whiskey. From its roots to 1795, when a Kentuckian named Jacob Beam first sold corn whiskey, the distiller grew, becoming one of the country’s biggest native producers of spirits. Now, it will be owned by Suntory, transferring yet another major American distiller to foreign hands, after years of acquisitions by Diageo and Pernod Ricard. The United States can still claim domestic ownership of big liquor makers, among them Brown-Forman and Buffalo Trace Distillery, but they are smaller. The world’s biggest beer producers, including Anheuser-Busch InBev and SABMiller, are also multinational conglomerates. Domestic breweries, like Sam Adams, largely produce craft beers at a fraction of the volume of their huge rivals. Founded 115 years ago, Suntory created Japan’s first distillery in 1923 using the principles of Scotch whisky production. But it has since grown into a sprawling conglomerate that spans fitness clubs, Subway restaurants, fresh flowers and golf ranges. Nobutada Saji, the company’s chairman and the grandson of its founder, is among his country’s richest men. (In the United States the company is perhaps best known for the commercial that Bill Murray’s character recorded in the 2003 movie “Lost in Translation,” which featured the slogan: “For relaxing times, make it Suntory time.”) In recent years, Suntory has been expanding aggressively overseas to counteract a shrinking market at home in Japan, where the population is declining. Its subsidiary, Suntory Beverage Food, controls the European drink company Orangina Schweppes, and last year bought the Lucozade and Ribena brands from GlaxoSmithKline for £1.35 billion ($2.1 billion). Buying Beam will bring Suntory’s total annual revenue to $4.3 billion and bolster the Japanese company’s presence in the United States market. “I believe this combination will create a spirits business with a product portfolio unmatched throughout the world and allow us to achieve further global growth,” Mr. Saji said in a statement. Though it had begun weighing a deal for Beam in the second half of 2011, Suntory did not formally approach its American counterpart until around this past Thanksgiving, according to people briefed on the matter. By then, the Japanese drinks company had raised about 390 billion yen, or $3.8 billion, by partly listing its nonalcoholic beverages business on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. It had also secured a financing commitment from the Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, one of Japan’s biggest banks. A number of factors helped pave the way for a quick deal. The two companies already have a business relationship: Suntory distributes Beam’s products in Japan, while the American company does the same for its partner in other Asian countries like Singapore. And the companies have little overlap in their product lines, allaying fears about potential antitrust problems. Such concerns dimmed the likelihood of a bid from Diageo, whose broad portfolio of brands like Johnnie Walker,
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jim Beam, made in Japan
Old Crow is still Yankee owned. Works good in my Ford tractor as an anti-freeze too. Old Crow is a low-priced brand of Kentucky-made straight bourbon whiskey, along with the slightly higher quality, but still inexpensive
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jim Beam, made in Japan
Smithfield Ham is now owned by China. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: January 13, 2014, 7:20 am My Old Osaka Home: Suntory of Japan to Buy Maker of Jim Beam By MICHAEL J. DE LA MERCED and DAVID GELLES Few spirits are as American as bourbon. But the maker of some of whiskey’s most iconic brands, including Jim Beam and Maker’s Mark, will soon belong to an acquisitive Japanese beverage maker. In a deal announced on Monday to buy Beam Inc. for $13.6 billion, Suntory of Japan struck one of the biggest takeovers in the liquor business in years, transforming it into the third-largest distiller globally. The acquisition may also signal the last mega-deal in the spirits industry for some time. Beam has long been considered the most attractive big target for consolidation. Rivals like Brown-Forman, the maker of Jack Daniel’s, are controlled by families, performing well on their own and have shown little interest in potential takeovers. The giants of the business — Diageo of Britain and Pernod Ricard of France — face many constraints on their ability to grow by mergers. While the two companies had considered bidding for the American whiskey producer, neither ultimately moved ahead. Beam instead was claimed by Suntory, a privately held concern whose beverage empire already encompasses Yamazaki Japanese whisky and Bowmore Scotch. If completed, the deal will add not only Jim Beam, but also pricier higher-end brands like Baker’s and Knob Creek bourbon, Laphroaig and Teacher’s Scotch and Courvoisier cognac. The sale of Beam was a fate many analysts had predicted since its predecessor, Fortune Brands, announced plans to break itself up more than three years ago under pressure from the activist investor William A. Ackman. The conglomerate, which produced liquor, Titleist golf balls and Moen faucets, eventually sold its golf equipment business and spun out its home products division. What was left was one of the country’s biggest producers of bourbon and the beneficiary of a resurging interest in American whiskey. From its roots to 1795, when a Kentuckian named Jacob Beam first sold corn whiskey, the distiller grew, becoming one of the country’s biggest native producers of spirits. Now, it will be owned by Suntory, transferring yet another major American distiller to foreign hands, after years of acquisitions by Diageo and Pernod Ricard. The United States can still claim domestic ownership of big liquor makers, among them Brown-Forman and Buffalo Trace Distillery, but they are smaller. The world’s biggest beer producers, including Anheuser-Busch InBev and SABMiller, are also multinational conglomerates. Domestic breweries, like Sam Adams, largely produce craft beers at a fraction of the volume of their huge rivals. Founded 115 years ago, Suntory created Japan’s first distillery in 1923 using the principles of Scotch whisky production. But it has since grown into a sprawling conglomerate that spans fitness clubs, Subway restaurants, fresh flowers and golf ranges. Nobutada Saji, the company’s chairman and the grandson of its founder, is among his country’s richest men. (In the United States the company is perhaps best known for the commercial that Bill Murray’s character recorded in the 2003 movie “Lost in Translation,” which featured the slogan: “For relaxing times, make it Suntory time.”) In recent years, Suntory has been expanding aggressively overseas to counteract a shrinking market at home in Japan, where the population is declining. Its subsidiary, Suntory Beverage Food, controls the European drink company Orangina Schweppes, and last year bought the Lucozade and Ribena brands from GlaxoSmithKline for £1.35 billion ($2.1 billion). Buying Beam will bring Suntory’s total annual revenue to $4.3 billion and bolster the Japanese company’s presence in the United States market. “I believe this combination will create a spirits business with a product portfolio unmatched throughout the world and allow us to achieve further global growth,” Mr. Saji said in a statement. Though it had begun weighing a deal for Beam in the second half of 2011, Suntory did not formally approach its American counterpart until around this past Thanksgiving, according to people briefed on the matter. By then, the Japanese drinks company had raised about 390 billion yen, or $3.8 billion, by partly listing its nonalcoholic beverages business on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. It had also secured a financing commitment from the Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, one of Japan’s biggest banks. A number of factors helped pave the way for a quick deal. The two companies already have a business relationship: Suntory distributes Beam’s products in Japan, while the American company does the same for its partner in other Asian countries like Singapore. And the companies have little overlap in their product lines, allaying fears
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Carde, imho we'd all be farting methane if we had to eat what the poor cows eat! OTOH, allowing cows, etc. to graze naturally can actually help the environment by reversing desertification that is happening all over the world. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:47 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: Hooray! Any day soon we get rid of those methane farting cows... http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
[FairfieldLife] RE: Happy Happy 12 January
Reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI Once In A Lifetime - Talking Heads You may find yourself living in a shotgun shack You may find yourself in another part of the world You may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile You may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here? Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground You may ask yourself, how do I work this? You may ask yourself, where is that large automobile? You may tell yourself, this is not my beautiful house You may tell yourself, this is not my beautiful wife Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was Water dissolving and water removing There is water at the bottom of the ocean Remove the water, carry the water Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Into the blue again, into silent water Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground Letting the days go by, into silent water Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground You may ask yourself, what is that beautiful house? You may ask yourself, where does that highway lead to? You may ask yourself, am I right, am I wrong? You may say to yourself, my god, what have I done? Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Into the blue again, into silent water Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground Letting the days go by, into silent water Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was Time isn't holding us, time isn't after us Time isn't holding us, time doesn't hold you back Time isn't holding us, time isn't after us Time isn't holding us... Letting the days go by, letting the days go by, letting the days go by, once in a lifetime Letting the days go by, letting the days go by, letting the days go by, once in a lifetime ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: This is the time of the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. I am only giving expression to the phenomenon that is taking place. One percent of the people in any country can herald the dawn of a new age for the whole nation by devoting only fifteen minutes of their time twice a day. It is in the hands of a few individuals in every country today to change the direction of time and guide the destiny of their nation for all harmony, happiness, and progress. It is my joy to invite everyone to come in the light of the knowledge and experience that the Science of Creative Intelligence provides and enjoy participating in this global awakening to herald the Age of Enlightenment. -Maharishi 12 January 1975
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
And don't you forget it, Doc! All women have some witch in them cackle cackle. Of course witch comes from the same root as wise and many witches were herbalists and midwives and thus called up before The Inquisition and tortured and burned to death or drowned, etc. Go figure! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:18 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: In most cases,with all that long, grey hair, they look to me, as if they can't wait to get home, to push Hansel and Gretel into the oven. Natural color is natural, but trimming the split ends, using a conditioner, and styling the cut, is my vast preference for women's grey or silver hair. As for guys, no more faux-hawks, or con-style mustache and goatees (done to DEATH), and no, the new neo-beatnik peach-fuzz beard look, is NOT a winner. Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, I've only seen one woman in FF with hair down to her ankles but lots of women in the Dome with hair down to their waist, etc. I like that older women feel free enough to let their grey or greying hair grow long. On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:26 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Do the bibs always go with long hair down to the ankles, or just in the case of this one woman? Ann, bibs is farmer shortcut language for shapeless pale peach colored or coloured bib overalls and yes, they go down to the ankles. I think they wear them for warmth. Go figure! Buck, what about the woman who walks around FF in shapeless bibs, with her long blond hair streaming...down to her ankles?! You gonna make her cut her very feminine hair? Have everybody shave their heads?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
On 1/14/2014 6:17 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth So, you informants ARE interested in what people wear. LoL!!!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Norway: frozen fish!
Meanwhile, back in Tuulos, Finland, snow weirds out in a lake: http://tinyurl.com/plm8gdb ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.nrk.no/nordland/smafisk-svomte-i-doden-1.11466122 http://www.nrk.no/nordland/smafisk-svomte-i-doden-1.11466122
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
On 1/13/2014 10:37 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: What amateurish bullshit. It looks like our emptybill doesn't practice TM anymore; has never studied any Zen under a teacher; and it looks like Bill confused the Tibetan vajra for the bell. We all get confused sometimes, but spending 5-6 years learning how to perform a Hindu ritual to a phallus? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: And don't you forget it, Doc! All women have some witch in them cackle cackle. Of course witch comes from the same root as wise and many witches were herbalists and midwives and thus called up before The Inquisition and tortured and burned to death or drowned, etc. Go figure! A psychologist friend of mine tells me that the modern counterpart of the witch for many of his male patients is the stalker ex who won't let go when she's been dumped. Seriously. The phenomenon has become so widespread that they have seminars on compulsive stalkers at their conferences. The scenario is simple: no matter how many times they're told that they're not wanted, they refuse to go away, and harass the person who dumped them forever. There's even a well-known Internet meme about the subject, some examples posted below. Remind you of anyone? :-) :-) On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:18 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: In most cases,with all that long, grey hair, they look to me, as if they can't wait to get home, to push Hansel and Gretel into the oven. Natural color is natural, but trimming the split ends, using a conditioner, and styling the cut, is my vast preference for women's grey or silver hair. As for guys, no more faux-hawks, or con-style mustache and goatees (done to DEATH), and no, the new neo-beatnik peach-fuzz beard look, is NOT a winner. Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, I've only seen one woman in FF with hair down to her ankles but lots of women in the Dome with hair down to their waist, etc. I like that older women feel free enough to let their grey or greying hair grow long. On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:26 AM, authfriend@ authfriend@ wrote:  Do the bibs always go with long hair down to the ankles, or just in the case of this one woman? Ann, bibs is farmer shortcut language for shapeless pale peach colored or coloured bib overalls and yes, they go down to the ankles. I think they wear them for warmth. Go figure! Buck, what about the woman who walks around FF in shapeless bibs, with her long blond hair streaming...down to her ankles?! You gonna make her cut her very feminine hair? Have everybody shave their heads?!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Norway: frozen fish!
Gr... http://tinyurl.com/plm8gdb http://tinyurl.com/plm8gdb ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Meanwhile, back in Tuulos, Finland, snow weirds out in a lake: http://tinyurl.com/plm8gdb ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.nrk.no/nordland/smafisk-svomte-i-doden-1.11466122 http://www.nrk.no/nordland/smafisk-svomte-i-doden-1.11466122
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What People Wear
Years ago, I heard of a guy - a one time was aspiring seeker to be be a TM Teacher, was working with Jerry Jarvis at SIMMS in Westwood, CA. Jerry always wore a conservative dark-blue suit and a nice stripped tie when he was presenting or initiating. The guy I heard about wore an old cream-colored tweed-like sports coat and a tie with a small outline of a naked dancing girl on it. Apparently it was difficult to make out the design at a distance, but if you got real close, like during your initiation, anyone could see the tie had the naked dancing girl on it. Go figure. So, I wonder what Rama thought about that tie - Rama probably approved since he maybe thought the guy would recruit some new students that Rama could hit on. LoL! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: One of the most popular urban camouflage outfits around Austin is a black T-shirt and some black pants and shoes. This works very well at night, whether in the city or in the country. Black T-shirts look good with denims too, and when you're sitting at a table at a cafe, people only see your top half, so they don't know if you have on black pants or not. The only real big decisions are long sleeve or short sleeve black T-shirt? Or, pocket T or no pocket? With a pocket T you carry your cell phone in an easy to access place, so the phone is always available with a quick grab. Other people just like to have their phone on the table out in plain sight. Go figure. Over in France, I have read that artists who wear black sweaters are very fond of what we call over here Pierre hats - I saw one at Paris Hatters in downtown San Antonio. Another thing people around here like to wear are baseball caps - but every time I see a guy wearing one on backwards, I think it looks really stupid. But, that's just me. On 12/23/2013 10:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Richard, I guess people just like to belong to a group and having a uniform as it were, indicates what group one belongs to. Unless people really think they need camo in the cities! And would traditional camo be the best camo? What it is? *Good point, Share. I mean, how is outwear designed to make you look like a pile of leaves gonna fit in and fade into the background in the *city*, ferchrissakes? I got curious, so I Google-Imaged urban camo and got these: * *:-)* On Monday, December 23, 2013 9:58 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: You'll see people wearing Duck Dynasty camouflage clothing all over the place around here. Pants, T-shirts, and jackets. They probably get them at Walmart - there is also some Duck merchandise at the Cracker Barrel too. And, at Old Navy. I have a pair of camo cargo pants that I got at Old Navy. Sometimes I wear them on hot days at the dog park or when I'm out hiking in the Texas Hill Country. Up where Dad lives, I see people wearing camo out to dinner at the Roadhouse. Camo is very popular these days. I've even seen camo paint themes on a few pickup trucks. Go figure. A few days ago we were at Nordstrom's Rack and I saw a pair of camouflage sneakers. I said to Rita: If I bought these I probably couldn't find both shoes when I need them. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
On 1/13/2014 10:53 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Does this mean the bull is inexperienced, clumsy, a greenhorn at taking a crap? It sure didn't take this thread about Zen long to turn into a pile of manure. Good work Ann and Bill!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Asymmetric Dress-Codes and Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
On 1/14/2014 5:58 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Barry, Yo, you try so damned hard to be different, that you end up looking like a shapeless blob of absolute conformity. *Trying* to be cool, makes you anything *but* cool. You remind me of the poseurs my daughter encounters in the City - All of the once hip accoutrements you have, now stale bells, accompanying your song of desperate existence. Nothing personal, dude - you are about as hip as a cardboard box. You nailed it. I'm used to wearing all kinds of different clothes. I used to wear dress shirts and slacks all the time. I wear suits to special functions like weddings and stuff. I could never understand the resistance to wearing a jacket and tie at SIMMS in Westwood and when presenting or initiating. People who work in business dress nice all the time. Only an idiot would show up at the work dressed in cut-offs and rubber sandals, even if it was dress-down Friday. But, the hippies who used to hang around the TM Center wanted to wear T-shirts and short pants. I think they all got asked to leave, or that their services were no longer needed. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Are we getting smarter or dumber?
This New Yorker article points out that the answer depends on what you mean by we. Does that include you and your smartphone, or just you? http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2014/01/if-a-time-travell\ er-saw-a-smartphone.html http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2014/01/if-a-time-travel\ ler-saw-a-smartphone.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
On 1/14/2014 7:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: All women have some witch in them cackle cackle. Of course witch comes from the same root as wise and many witches were herbalists and midwives and thus called up before The Inquisition and tortured and burned to death or drowned, etc. Go figure! */A psychologist friend of mine tells me that the modern counterpart of the witch for many of his male patients/* Addressing the important issues! So, I wonder how many teens in high school have read or saw a Harry Potter book or episode? Apparently the FFL political silly season has already begun! Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
On 1/14/2014 6:46 AM, Share Long wrote: All women have some witch in them One physical existence of Materia Mater - Mother Nature, (not to deny the existence of the Sky Gods, Gauda, etc.) Wicca in a nutshell: the ability to cause change at will. Henotheism is the worship of one God, Mother Nature, without reference to the rest. All the polytheistic Sky Gods are personifications of the forces of Mother Nature - all the other Gods are worshiped, that deserve to be worshiped: the Sky itself, the Sun, the Moon, the Dawn; trees, rocks, totems, poles, rocks, and fetishes. According to Delia, a self-described Wiccan on Google Groups, explained Wicca as as set of practices, with no theology of its own. In this sense, Wicca is tantric - what works, works. A Wiccan is able to become immortal like the gods themselves - through a process of yoga. A Wiccan is then a siddha, a person who is able to transcend the limitations of the physical world. A tantric siddha adept like Rama Lenz can fly; fill lecture halls with golden light; walk through walls; make themselves invisible; and attain immortality. A Wiccan is thus a shaman, from the indian prakrit, shramana, a striver.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.- Will Rogers On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: On 1/7/2014 6:01 PM, Richard Williams wrote: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt and a leaky tire. - Will Rogers
[FairfieldLife] Seriously, was Religion that doesn#39;t take itself deadly seriously
On 1/13/2014 12:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *BTW, when's the last time anyone saw Barry have as extended and wide-ranging a discussion with someone on FFL as I've been having with Bob Price?* When is the last time anyone saw anyone have an extended and wide ranging discussion with anyone on FFL? Let's get serious - I mean, without using a macro fora response.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn#39;t take itself deadly seriously
On 1/13/2014 12:04 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *You responded to Ann and me /before/ Barry instructed you to ignore us. If you intend to ignore that instruction and continue to make your own decisions about what to respond to, that's good, I approve.* Maybe we should add this admonition to the list of internet protocols. 1. Always check with Judy before you post to Barry, for her approval. 2. Make your own decisions about what to respond to, unless it's Barry. 3. Don't respond to Ann or Judy, just ignore them and respond to Barry.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Good article, and about bloody time. Those of us who gave up vegetarianism years ago get subjected to proselytizing about how cool and wonderful and...well...more evolved vegetarian eating is almost every day on the Net and in the press. But no one speaks up for those of us who tried it, didn't like it much, and went back to being what nature intended us to be -- happy omnivores. In my case, my breakthrough moment after years of being strict veggie (although never anything weirder and more fundamentalist like Vegan or macrobiotic or gluten-free) was at an ATR course at Cobb Mountain. I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
Wind flag, mind moves, The same understanding. When the mouth opens All are wrong. - Mumon On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Zen, Dzogchen and TM [image: Inline image 1] Inside the Shambhala Meditation Center, Boulder CO According to Beaulah Smith, I am TMer #214 in the U.S. I'm on the SIMS list at 1015 Gayley in Westwood, CA. I have a receipt for $35 signed by Jerry Jarvis. I had already completed a course in Japanese Judo at the Y before I tried TM and I had also studied with a Mexican-American shaman for four years (see my bio posted on Google Groups). When I realized how effective TM was, I got interested in learning something more about meditation techniques - the TM worked, but Iwanted to find out exactly what I was doing. So, I went down to the Bodhi Tree bookstore and bought MMY's books and a copy of Autobiography of a Yogi. The next year I moved to San Francisco where I learned about Soto Zen by sitting with a roshi at the SFZC. Also, about this time I started reading about Tibetan Yoga and secret doctrines. I met a lama in Marin County who taught me how to perform the Tibetan puja. Later in Boulder I learned to meditate at the Shambhala Meditation Center. So, this is a report by a pracitioner and commentator based on forty years of research and practice: So, let's sum up what we know: TM, or meditation that is transcendental, is based on thinking. It has been described by MMY as the experiencing of a thought, just like any other thought, in finer and finer states, until the finest and most subtle state of thought is experienced. This passing back and forth between the gross and subtle states of thinking leads to a state where thought naturally drops off altogether. When this happens the meditator is said to be experiencing a state of restful alertness, a condition where the mind enjoys just Being: no thought, no mental activity, just resting in a state of mental equipoise. Are we agreed so far? At the subtlest level of creation is an unlimited reservoir of energy and intelligence. MMY once said: How to just Be? Stop being active, but don't become passive! There is an old Zen proverb: Just sitting. Doing nothing. According Sogyal Rinpoche, in his great book, The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, meditation is simply resting, undistracted, in the View, once it has been introduced. His teacher Dudjom Rinpoche, once described meditation as being attentive to a state of 'Rigpa', experiencing, free from all mental constructions, whilst remaining fully relaxed, without any distraction or grasping. Meditation states Rinpoche, is not striving, but naturally becoming assimilated into it. Meditation means simply to 'think things over'. We all meditate to a certain degree already, and, we're transcending all the time. In fact, we couldn't go through a single day without at least once or twice pausing to take stock of our own mental mind-stuff. The problem is that we don't do this in a very systematic manner. According to Sogyal Rinpoche, At present our Rigpa is a little baby, stranded on the battlefield of strong arising thoughts. The whole point of Dzogchen meditation practice is to strengthen and stabilize Rigpa, and allow it to grow to full maturity. What's needed is a way of tapping into that Rigpa - the source of unlimited creativity and intelligence that lies within. Dzogchen is that technique! My conclusion: TM is similar to Tibetan Dzogchen and Japanese Zen. Meditation is not what you think: neither TM, Dzogchen, or Zen can bring enlightenment. The fact is that you're not going to get any more enlightenment than you're going to get. MMY has emphatically stated that TM is NOT the cause of the enlightened state. Enlightenment is there already in a fully formed latent state, ready to spring forth when the right opportunity presents itself. All it needs is the ideal opportunity to reveal itself. Our Guru SBS, put it this way: Brahman is self-effulgent; it needs no other light to illuminate it. Sogyal Rinpoche says: I like to say we have to begin by babysitting our Rigpa, in the secure environment of meditation. Suzuki Roshi instructed his students to Just sit. This sitting IS enlightenment. The point is that you can call your technique anything you want to, TM, Dzogchen or Zen, or anything else, however, any technique which provides the opportunity for transcending is a meditation that is transcendental. Meditation is just what intelligent people do! Work Cited: The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying By Sogyal Rinpoche HarperCollins, 2002 p. 163 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: According to the The Pali Canon, which is the oldest known teachings of the historical Buddha, meditation is mentioned numerous times. Other types of meditation taught by the Buddha are also found in the found in ancient commentary Visuddhimagga
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
The issue stems from the recent decision of the Congress government to declare a lockout on the Jyotirmath premises in an apparent bid to oust Swami Vasudevanand, a move allegedly chalked out by Swami Swaroopanand.Soon after the lockout on February 16 this year, Swami Vasudevanand got a reprieve from a local court against the government’s decision. And on March 1, the control of the Jyotirpeeth was handed over to Swami Vasudevanand in the face of BJP’s agitation over the issue. Upping the ante, Swami Vasudevanand, who claims to be real Shankracharya of Jyotirmath Peeth, also filed an FIR against some followers of Swami Swroopanand accusing them of carrying out theft in the Peeth premises. Swami Vasudevanand claimed that he was the real Shankaracharya and that the recent decision of the local administration to declare a lockout at the Peeth was politically motivated. Read more: 'Jyotirmath Peeth: 3 Shankaracharyas enter into legal battle' Deccan Herald, Wednesday On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:05 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: In addition to being the 12th day of the 1st month, it is also MMY's birthday. Oh, okay, thanks. Then why is Share wishing everyone except MMY happy January 12? I thought you were supposed to wish the guy with the birthday this. FF has some interesting traditions I am, evidently, unfamiliar with. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Richard, thanks for clarifying and Happy January 12 to you and Rita. What is January 12th? On Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:05 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: Let's put it this way: nobody here knows anything about the Shankaracharyas. The only member of this list that knows anything about the Shankaracharyas is Vaj, and he's no longer posting anything. On 1/12/2014 6:29 AM, Share Long wrote: ...did you see merudanda's chart?! He seems to know quite a lot about the situation. Are you questioning the accuracy of the info in the chart? Maybe I should rephrase what I wrote: Vaj isn't around any more to give us any insider information on the comings and goings of the Shankaracharyas of India. Apparently Vaj was over there and sat at the feet of the Shankaracharya of Sringeri. Several years ago I used to get some insider information when I frequented a nearby yoga camp at Barsana Dham, one of the largest Hindu temples outside India, and I would overhear gossip from some of the devotees over there. The resident Swami at Barsana was apparently a direct disciple of SBS and claimed to have once been offered the Jyotirmath seat. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Asymmetric Dress-Codes and Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Barry, Yo, you try so damned hard to be different, that you end up looking like a shapeless blob of absolute conformity. *Trying* to be cool, makes you anything *but* cool. You remind me of the poseurs my daughter encounters in the City - All of the once hip accoutrements you have, now stale bells, accompanying your song of desperate existence. Nothing personal, dude - you are about as hip as a cardboard box. Doc, you're on good form today. And you nailed it. Barry is that guy who, in his attempt to be the cool and different individual, merely comes across as the uncoolest goink on the playground. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: IMO any attempt at a standardized dress code or uniform is an exercise born out of fear, and in the direction of suppression of individuality. This is as true in the military as it is in cults. They make soldiers wear the same uniforms so that they'll become uniform, and follow orders. They do the same thing in cults and religious traditions. Interestingly, there have been a number of anthropological and sociological studies on uniforms and uniform dress, and they all seem to indicate that one can learn a lot about groupthink from how the group tries to costume their thinkers. For example, in the police or the military, the more black and glossy and clean-pressed the uniforms, the more Fascist and control-freak the organization is. In cults and religions, the more asexual or non-sexual the group uniform is, the more they fear and are obsessed with normal human sexuality. No one here should be surprised that I don't think much of uniforms, or of the notion of unisex clothing as a positive thing. In any environment, but especially in the TMO. Whether it was Maharishi saying Wear your suit at all times...even to the beach or the shunning that took place when a woman wore something other than a shapeless, floor-length gunny sack to a meeting he was in, it *always* struck me as stupid and reactive and as a way to try to force the followers to make themselves fit into Maharishi's own desire and limitation pigeonholdes. He wanted his male teachers to look like businessmen because he was always more interested in business and making money than anything else. And he didn't want women looking like women because he was attracted to them, and couldn't admit that. So he wanted them to hide their bodies the same way he hid his desires and his actual predatory seductions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: From symmetric to asymmetric dress-code, from a uniformity of business suits and schoolmarmish attire at a time in TM over to Raja crowns and robes was useful to the cause and without significant subtle effect in TM history? For group cohesion of consciousness of the lower form? Was bad theatre or brilliant leadership for the cause? Trendline when looked at? If they who thus afflicted us, continued to lay Claim to Religion, and were assisted in their Business by others, esteemed Pious People, who through a Friendship with them strengthened their Hands in Tyranny: In Such a State, when we were (spiritually) Hunger-bitten, and could not have sufficient Nourishment, but saw them in Fulness pleasing their Taste with Things fetched from afar: When we were wearied with Labour, denied the Liberty to (meditate) rest, and saw them spending their Time at Ease: When Garments answerable to our Necessities were denied us, while we saw them clothed in that which was costly and delicate: Under such Affliction, how would these painful Feelings rise up as Witness against their pretended Devotion! And if the Name of their Religion was mention'd in our Hearing, how would it sound in our Ears like a Word which signified Self-exaltation, and Hardness of Heart! -John Woolman But woe this other aspect of resentment of differentials as detriment in groups in which asymmetric style differentials can bring to a podium. . Thinking of robes, medallions, gold hats, crowns and such arrayed across a stage in front of an audience, an array that embarks on mixed signals to the higher human mind in the theatre of differentials that dress-code differentials can impose when not well used in groups. That proly explains some lot of an erosion in rank-and-file of what were once large spiritual movements. Loss of touch with reality between the podium and the audience. The asymmetric differential becomes too damned haughty. âMay we look upon our treasures, the furniture of our houses, and our garments, and try whether the seeds of war have nourishment in these our possessions. Holding treasures in the self-pleasing spirit is a strong plant, the fruit whereof ripens fast. A day of outward distress is coming and Divine Love calls for us to prepare against it.â John Woolman,
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita
Traditional Advaita and Neo- Advaita Traditional Advaita, as taught by the Adi Shankaracharya, has sadhana requirements. Not everyone will be accepted into the Saraswati Order. Most people won't have access to the initiation performed for the Sannyasin of the Saraswati tradition. However, although the Shankaracharya adheres to the Advairta Vedanta, at the same time they all worship the Divine Mother - Sri Vidya, and that is why they are termed Saraswati - they are Sri Vidya proponents. Ramana Maharshi changed all that - he established the Direct Path teachings. He taught that realization is open to everyone, and that a long series of preparatory studies was not a requirement that the non-dual Reality be realized. MMY seems to agree with much that Ramana Maharshi has said, as do Poonja, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Papaji, Atmananda Krishna Menon, Swami Chinmayananda, and Ramesh Balsekar. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Because there has to be duality before a subject (you, for example) can speculate about an object. The One has to divide for that to happen; and so the One + the subject + the object = three terms. *Everything* depends on that Original Trinity. The original trinity was probably invented by the Indo-Europeans who migrated into India from Persia. One of the oldest systems to explain duality were the adherents of the ancient Samkhya sect, one of the so-called Six Systems of Indian Philosophy; The Sanskrit word samkhya a word which pertains to number - the three gunas and the 32 tattwas, constituents of nature, etc. Samkhya is probably the oldest and most widespread system explaining the basic duality - it spread to China (Tao) and the Far East (yin-yang). It might correctly be said that Samkhya is the oldest dualism philosophy - it's even mentioned in the Rig Veda and in the Zen Avesta. In Advaita philosophy AUM (not to be confused with the the monosyllable OM) is frequently used to represent or symbolize the three subsumed into one; a triune; a common theme in Hinduism since ancient times. The use of symbolic AUM implies that our current existence is characterized by maya, or a falsehood - an appearance only. And that in order to go beyond sensing a mere appearance, we must know the full truth that is transcendental to the body, mind, or intellect. In MMY's advaita, we comprehend the true nature of the absolute, Purusha. All the authors of the Upanishads were of the transcendentalist persuasion. Transcendental knowledge is essentially a realization (Sanskrit moksha) - a state of realization where one can not only see but know the absolute existence and to become it: you know, (Sanskrit jnana) existence for what it really is. When one gains true knowledge (Sanskrit vidya) - there is no split between the knower and known: one becomes knowledge-consciousness itself. So AUM, like the auspicious hand-sign (Sanskrit mudra) is in essence, the signifier of the ultimate truth. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re Why is it so difficult for you to understand the one, before you go off speculating on the three? : Because there has to be duality before a subject (you, for example) can speculate about an object. The One has to divide for that to happen; and so the One + the subject + the object = three terms. *Everything* depends on that Original Trinity. Let Uncle Aleister explain: The Chinese, like ourselves, begin with the idea of Absolute Nothing. They make an effort, and call it the Tao; but that is exactly what the Tao comes to mean, when we examine it. They see quite well, as we have done above, that merely to assert Nothing is not to explain the Universe; and they proceed to do so by means of a mathematical equation even simpler than ours, involving as it does no operations beyond simple addition and subtraction. They say Nothing obviously means Nothing; it has no qualities nor quantities. (The Advaitists said the same, and then stultified themselves completely by calling it One!) But, continue the sages of the Middle Kingdom, it is always possible to reduce any expression to Nothing by taking any two equal and opposite terms. (Thus n + (-n) = 0.) We ought therefore to be able to get any expression that we want *from*Nothing; we merely have to be careful that the terms shall be precisely opposite and equal. (0 = n + (-n). This then they did, and began to diagrammatize the Universe as a pair of opposites, the Yang or active male, and the Yin or passive Female, principles. - (Aleister Crowley)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: In most cases,with all that long, grey hair, they look to me, as if they can't wait to get home, to push Hansel and Gretel into the oven. Natural color is natural, but trimming the split ends, using a conditioner, and styling the cut, is my vast preference for women's grey or silver hair. As for guys, no more faux-hawks, or con-style mustache and goatees (done to DEATH), and no, the new neo-beatnik peach-fuzz beard look, is NOT a winner. Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth See, another zinger and funny too. Keep 'em comin', you're makin' my day so far. You must have eaten your Cheerios for breakfast... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, I've only seen one woman in FF with hair down to her ankles but lots of women in the Dome with hair down to their waist, etc. I like that older women feel free enough to let their grey or greying hair grow long. On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:26 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Do the bibs always go with long hair down to the ankles, or just in the case of this one woman? Ann, bibs is farmer shortcut language for shapeless pale peach colored or coloured bib overalls and yes, they go down to the ankles. I think they wear them for warmth. Go figure! Buck, what about the woman who walks around FF in shapeless bibs, with her long blond hair streaming...down to her ankles?! You gonna make her cut her very feminine hair? Have everybody shave their heads?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/13/2014 10:37 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: What amateurish bullshit. It looks like our emptybill doesn't practice TM anymore; has never studied any Zen under a teacher; and it looks like Bill confused the Tibetan vajra for the bell. We all get confused sometimes, but spending 5-6 years learning how to perform a Hindu ritual to a phallus? Go figure. Now Ricky, try and be understanding. Most of the world pays homage to phalluses every day of their lives - either to their own or to those that they hope they might embrace one day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Asymmetric Dress-Codes and Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
On 1/14/2014 8:33 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Doc, you're on good form today. And you nailed it. Barry is that guy who, in his attempt to be the cool and different individual, merely comes across as the uncoolest goink on the playground. Ann, you're in fine form today too (no pun intended). Barry ought to post his photo to my website My Face, so we could see for ourselves what he looks like these days. What I'm thinking is that Barry likes to wear black turtleneck sweaters; P-coats; blue jean pants; running shoes; and a black Pierre cap. Or, maybe he sometimes likes to wear a plaid flannel shirt when it warms up. It would be nice to have a good pair of boots over there when it rains and snows. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: And don't you forget it, Doc! All women have some witch in them cackle cackle. Of course witch comes from the same root as wise and many witches were herbalists and midwives and thus called up before The Inquisition and tortured and burned to death or drowned, etc. Go figure! A psychologist friend of mine tells me that the modern counterpart of the witch for many of his male patients is the stalker ex who won't let go when she's been dumped. Seriously. The phenomenon has become so widespread that they have seminars on compulsive stalkers at their conferences. The scenario is simple: no matter how many times they're told that they're not wanted, they refuse to go away, and harass the person who dumped them forever. There's even a well-known Internet meme about the subject, some examples posted below. Remind you of anyone? :-) You, dummy. :-) On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:18 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: In most cases,with all that long, grey hair, they look to me, as if they can't wait to get home, to push Hansel and Gretel into the oven. Natural color is natural, but trimming the split ends, using a conditioner, and styling the cut, is my vast preference for women's grey or silver hair. As for guys, no more faux-hawks, or con-style mustache and goatees (done to DEATH), and no, the new neo-beatnik peach-fuzz beard look, is NOT a winner. Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, I've only seen one woman in FF with hair down to her ankles but lots of women in the Dome with hair down to their waist, etc. I like that older women feel free enough to let their grey or greying hair grow long. On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:26 AM, authfriend@ authfriend@ wrote:  Do the bibs always go with long hair down to the ankles, or just in the case of this one woman? Ann, bibs is farmer shortcut language for shapeless pale peach colored or coloured bib overalls and yes, they go down to the ankles. I think they wear them for warmth. Go figure! Buck, what about the woman who walks around FF in shapeless bibs, with her long blond hair streaming...down to her ankles?! You gonna make her cut her very feminine hair? Have everybody shave their heads?!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Carde, imho we'd all be farting methane if we had to eat what the poor cows eat! OTOH, allowing cows, etc. to graze naturally can actually help the environment by reversing desertification that is happening all over the world. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: http://chemistry.about.com/od/medicalhealth/f/What-Is-The-Chemical-Composition-Of-Farts.htm http://chemistry.about.com/od/medicalhealth/f/What-Is-The-Chemical-Composition-Of-Farts.htm On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:47 AM, cardemaister@... cardemaister@... wrote: Hooray! Any day soon we get rid of those methane farting cows... http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2 http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
[FairfieldLife] RE: Norway: frozen fish!
Ha, ha. I was surprised your first link wasn't clickable but relieved to see you fixed it here. I did cut and paste it earlier though and that is one interesting looking, pasta-filled body of water.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/13/2014 10:53 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Does this mean the bull is inexperienced, clumsy, a greenhorn at taking a crap? It sure didn't take this thread about Zen long to turn into a pile of manure. Good work Ann and Bill! Well, dear boy, sometimes you can't make anything but manure out of manure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Seriously, was Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/13/2014 12:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: BTW, when's the last time anyone saw Barry have as extended and wide-ranging a discussion with someone on FFL as I've been having with Bob Price? When is the last time anyone saw anyone have an extended and wide ranging discussion with anyone on FFL? Let's get serious - I mean, without using a macro fora response. Other than Bob and Judy the last time there were conversations that were extended and wide ranging was when Robin was around. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation: It's Not What You Think
Advanced Techniques The so-called 'Night Technique', MMY's sixth advance technique, corresponds to the second Kriya initiation taught by Paramahansa Yogananda, who received this technique from from Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri. [image: Inline image 1] Swami Karpatri - disciple of SBS It is the exact same technique that was taught to Sankaracharya by his guru Govindapadacharya. This has been confiremed by Swami Sivananda and Swami Venkatesananda of Rishikesh, Himalayas. According to Tom Anderson, MMY's secretary at La Antilla TTC, all these advanced techniques were incorporated by MMY into the AoE. Marshy probably got them from former students of Yogananda. Note on Hariharananda Saraswati, (Karpatri): He was also the great expert of Shree Vidya and probably all the present day experts in Varanasi have somehow or the other obtained Shree vidya from him or his pupils. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Karpatri On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: You can define meditation as a type of prayer. According to MMY, meditation is like prayer, except on a very subtle level. In a recent visit to Sonoma in California it seemed like almost the entire northern half of California meditates using various breath awareness techniques or various yoga techniques. I know that in northern California lots of people practice Zen meditation. Recently I sat with Jokusho Kwong, the roshi of the Sonoma Zen Center, when I visited my daughter in Santa Rosa. I've known the roshi since the days when I sat with Suzuki at the San Francisco Zen Center. [image: Inline image 1] Everyday Zen at Sonoma Zen Center According to the dictionary, meditation means simply 'to think things over'. If so, then everyone meditates. There's probably not a person on the planet who doesn't pause once or twice a day to take stock of their mind contents. And we're all transcending - even without a specific technique. So, the question is: do you enjoy? As a method of stress reduction, meditation is often used in hospitals in cases of chronic or terminal illness to reduce complications associated with increased stress including a depressed immune system. There is growing agreement in the medical community that mental factors such as stress significantly contribute to a lack of physical health, and there is a growing movement in mainstream science to fund research in this area. Dr. Herbert Benson of the Mind-Body Medical Institute, which is affiliated with Harvard and several Boston hospitals, reports that meditation induces a host of biochemical and physical changes in the body collectively referred to as the 'relaxation response.' The relaxation response includes changes in metabolism, heart rate, respiration, blood pressure and brain chemistry. Benson and his team have also done clinical studies at Buddhist monasteries in the Himalayan Mountains. Transcendental means to go beyond; meditation means thinking. Hence, 'Transcendental Meditation' means to go beyond thinking. - Charlie Lutes Works cited: Charles F. Lutes http://www.maharishiphotos.com/tmintro.html Sonoma Mountain Zen Center: http://www.smzc.net/ Meditation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation Other References: 'The Mystery of Consciousness' By Steven Pinker Time Magazine, Friday, Jan. 19, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3ck5qe 'The Science of Meditation' Time Magazine Cover Story, August 4, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/63xac5 'Just say Om' by Joel Stein Time Magazine, Sunday, Jul. 27, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/icu6
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Shamans and Don Juan Matus
Shamanism It might be a good idea for you to check the definition of 'shaman'. According to Mircea Eliade, shamans don't have anything to do with South Asian 'meditation' or Yoga techniques. A 'shaman' is someone who is supposedly concerned with communication with the spirit world and communicate with the souls of the dead. Shamans are sometimes thought of as intermediaries between the human and spirit worlds, communicating with the supernatural world. Some anthropologists even doubt the existence of 'shamanism' as an ancient, unchanged, and surviving religion from the Paleolithic period. Shamanic imagery often includes being transported to the spirit world and interacting with beings inhabiting the distant world of spirits, meeting a spiritual guide, being devoured by some being and emerging transformed, and/or being dismantled and reassembled again, often with implanted amulets such as magical crystals. The imagery of initiation generally speaks of transformation and the granting powers to transcend death and rebirth. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism Work cited: 'Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy' By Mircea Eliade Princeton University Press, 2004 On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, the proto-Shiva discovered in the Indus Valey is the original horned god of world mythology, Lord of Animals. This tradition originated in South India about 4,000 B. C. and then spread to North India via the Indus Valley Civilization. By all accounts, this early South Indian tradition was Shamanistic in nature and Totemic in character, based on a belief in the Fertility and the Tree of Plenty, which was inherited from Southeast Asia. When the Vedic Aryans arrived in what is now Pakistan, having come from the steppes of Eurasia, by way of Asia Minor, the Aryan, that is, the Indo-European speaking people, adopted many traditions from the native population, such as the worship of the Shiva/Rudra, and worship of the Goddess of Fertility, the Bhairav/Durga nexus. On 10/12/2013 8:48 PM, nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting observation that. Did they turn red after they got here and, they must have all left together as there don't seem to be any left there from what I have heard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comwrote: They don't call Native Americans Indians for nothing, since they all came from Asia in the first place. Go figure. According to what I've read, a recent study of a 40,000 year old skeleton from China showed that early modern humans present in the Beijing area 40,000 y ago were related to the ancestors of many present-day Asians as well as Native Americans. So, what is a shaman anyway? A shaman is anybody who contacts a spirit world while in an altered state of consciousness. The idea is based on the notion that the visible world is of the senses is pervaded by invisible forces or spirits which affect the lives of living people. Shamans can reach altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world and channel transcendental energies. For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel—looking, looking, breathlessly. - Don Juan Matus Only known photography of Don Juan Matus: [image: Inline image 1]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
Would you give a thief direct access to your checking account? '4 Risky Places to Swipe Your Debit Card' ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/debit-card/http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-riskiest-places-swipe-debit-card/story?id=21489159 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Leaked search warrants suggest Sabu wasn't the only LulzSec hacker who helped the FBI take down the infamous hacktivist group. The unredacted search warrants for Sabu and LulzSec refer to involvement of three different informants in the investigation, at least two of whom it is implied were members of the organisation. 'Sabu wasn't the only FBI mole in LulzSec, suggest leaked docs' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/10/lulzsec_warrants_leak/ Read more: 'We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency' by Parmy Olson Little, Brown and Company, 2012 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Hacker Reading List: 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011 'We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency' by Parmy Olson Little, Brown and Company (June 5, 2012) 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet' by Andrew Blum, HarperCollins, 2012 'Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution' by Steven Levy O'Reilly Media; 1 edition (May 19, 2010) 'Crypto: How the Code Rebels Beat the Government--Saving Privacy in the Digital Age' by Steven Levy Viking, 2001 'Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias' by Peter Ludlow Bradford Book, 2001 'Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace' by Lawrence Lessig Basic Books (July 13, 2000) 'Hacking' The Art of Exploitation, 2nd Edition by Jon Erickson No Starch Press, 2008 'How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint, Leave False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace' by Frank M. Ahearn Lyons Press, 2010 'Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground' by Kevin Poulsen Crown, 2011
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
So, let's review what we know about the Jyotirmath succession controversy: [image: Inline image 2] Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, of Jyotirmath I've also pointed out previously that the mere possession of the Jyotirmath property in the succession dispute has no great bearing on who the real Shankaracharya is. If it were, Vasudevanand would prevail hands down, since he's in possession of most of the Jyotirmath property. In fact, it's a title that's at stake in the dispute. In this sense the dispute reaches a moot point because in fact there's no evidence that Shankara established any mathas at all - it's just a mythic tradition. So, if the devotees on the ground in India believe that Vasudevanand is a Shankaraycharya and revere him as such, and Vasudevanannd looks and acts like a Shankaracharya, and he is assumed to be the successor to SBS, and no material evidence is presented to the contrary, then Vasudevanand probably is the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. Go figure. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:05 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: In addition to being the 12th day of the 1st month, it is also MMY's birthday. Oh, okay, thanks. Then why is Share wishing everyone except MMY happy January 12? I thought you were supposed to wish the guy with the birthday this. FF has some interesting traditions I am, evidently, unfamiliar with. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Richard, thanks for clarifying and Happy January 12 to you and Rita. What is January 12th? On Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:05 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: Let's put it this way: nobody here knows anything about the Shankaracharyas. The only member of this list that knows anything about the Shankaracharyas is Vaj, and he's no longer posting anything. On 1/12/2014 6:29 AM, Share Long wrote: ...did you see merudanda's chart?! He seems to know quite a lot about the situation. Are you questioning the accuracy of the info in the chart? Maybe I should rephrase what I wrote: Vaj isn't around any more to give us any insider information on the comings and goings of the Shankaracharyas of India. Apparently Vaj was over there and sat at the feet of the Shankaracharya of Sringeri. Several years ago I used to get some insider information when I frequented a nearby yoga camp at Barsana Dham, one of the largest Hindu temples outside India, and I would overhear gossip from some of the devotees over there. The resident Swami at Barsana was apparently a direct disciple of SBS and claimed to have once been offered the Jyotirmath seat. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote: So, let's review what we know about the Jyotirmath succession controversy: [Inline image 2] Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, of Jyotirmath Let's not. Instead, let's ask why a bunch of people who claim that the TM tradition they're part of is not religious are so interesting in the succession intrigues of a *purely* religious tradition in India. We might also ask why they perform traditional Hindu ceremonies called pujas to the leaders of this religious tradition, and consider themselves part of it when talking about their Holy Tradition. Interestingly enough, however, when presenting TM to the public, they keep repeating the not religious meme. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
On 1/14/2014 8:44 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Now Ricky, try and be understanding. Most of the world pays homage to phalluses every day of their lives - either to their own or to those that they hope they might embrace one day. . Yeah, but not very many yogis mistake the pointing finger for the moon itself. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
noozguru, you were talking about ABC the other day. Can we trust their news stories? On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:07 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Would you give a thief direct access to your checking account? '4 Risky Places to Swipe Your Debit Card' ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/debit-card/ On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Leaked search warrants suggest Sabu wasn't the only LulzSec hacker who helped the FBI take down the infamous hacktivist group. The unredacted search warrants for Sabu and LulzSec refer to involvement of three different informants in the investigation, at least two of whom it is implied were members of the organisation. 'Sabu wasn't the only FBI mole in LulzSec, suggest leaked docs' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/10/lulzsec_warrants_leak/ Read more: 'We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency' by Parmy Olson Little, Brown and Company, 2012 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Hacker Reading List: 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011 'We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency' by Parmy Olson Little, Brown and Company (June 5, 2012) 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet' by Andrew Blum, HarperCollins, 2012 'Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution' by Steven Levy O'Reilly Media; 1 edition (May 19, 2010) 'Crypto: How the Code Rebels Beat the Government--Saving Privacy in the Digital Age' by Steven Levy Viking, 2001 'Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias' by Peter Ludlow Bradford Book, 2001 'Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace' by Lawrence Lessig Basic Books (July 13, 2000) 'Hacking' The Art of Exploitation, 2nd Edition by Jon Erickson No Starch Press, 2008 'How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint, Leave False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace' by Frank M. Ahearn Lyons Press, 2010 'Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground' by Kevin Poulsen Crown, 2011
[FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Eat
We have hamburgers around here but the burgers don't have ham in them - brought over by German immigrants from over in Hamburg, Germany - the good burgers have steak in them. They have pretty good burgers at Sam's Burger Joint in San and at Top Notch in Austin. From what I've read the John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, was one of the first people to use two pieces of bread with meat inside them, but was Montagu hard at work at his desk or was he just needing a free hand for gambling? Go figure. [image: Inline image 1] 'Top Notch Hamburgers taps into nostalgia with Summertime Movie Nights' Austin Culture Map: http://austin.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/06-05-13-top-notch-hamburgers-taps-into-nostalgia-with-summertime-movie-nights/ Sam's Burger Joint: http://samsburgerjoint.com/ On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:36 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Here's another bit of important health info for people to know, Share. When you are deciding whether to buy a food item, look closely at the packaging. Somewhere on it, you should be able to find a list headed INGREDIENTS. That means what's in the food. Isn't that amazing? You don't have to guess; it says right on the package! In the case of something like, say, Crystal Light, the list of INGREDIENTS will have Aspartame--that's an artificial sweetener--rather than Sugar (or one of the other names for sugar). So you actually don't have to risk looking like a fool, imo, for saying things such as drinking Crystal Light is like injecting sugar into your veins, because you can just look at the INGREDIENTS and know it doesn't have any sugar in it! Very important for people to know! I mean, Crystal Light's whole reason for being is that it has almost no calories, but you might not realize that probably means it doesn't pump lots of sugar into your bloodstream. So check that INGREDIENTS list! It's really important for you to know! Good point, noozguru, thanks for correction. This kind of health info is important for people to know imo. On Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:27 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Crystal Light is artificially sweetened. Not good to fool the body though if it is actually asking for sugar (doesn't have to be sugar though but some carbs). On 12/29/2013 11:38 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, congratulations for getting off the Crystal Light. Might as well inject sugar right into the veins! Thanks for the recipe too. I love both cabbage and cooked celery. Do you all ever eat baby bok choy? I think it's high in Vit A or something that's hard to get via food. Bon appetite! On Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... punditster@... wrote: We've been on a special diet for several years now. I used to be on a Zen Macrobiotic organic foods diet and ate a lot of organic rice with Shoyu. Now I'm on a diabetic diet - no table sugar, low carbs, and exercise; Rita is on a weight-loss diet - no carbs, high protein, low sugar. And, we both work out at the Y almost every day and/or take long walks by the San Antonio River or go to the local Dog Park. Sometimes we go to the mall and walk past SAKS on our way to Old Navy. We used to drink Crystal Light but mostly filtered water these days and some good wine on occasion. We still eat out a few times a month. Last night we went to the local theater to see Anchorman II and then to our favorite Tex-Mex restaurant, Taco Flats. Here's Rita's recipe for organic vegetable soup. It's not complicated. Ingredients: Vegetables onion carrots celery cabbage green beans zucchini olive oil tomatoes filtered water 1. Cut up the vegetables into small cubes with a knife 2. Cook the vegies in a large wok or frying pan 3. Fill a large pot with the filtered water 4. Boil the hell out of it for a few minutes 5. Add in the chopped vegies with a scoop 6. Add salt or seasoning to taste 7. Let the mixture steep for ten minutes 8. Serve in bowls and eat with a spoon On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: Better ingredients, better pizza? We used to eat pizza all the time. Up in Austin, there's a place called Conan's - they have what they call deep dish pizza - Chicago style, with whole wheat crust if you prefer and with the cheese built right into the crust. Also in Austin there is the Brick Oven where you can watch the pizza being cooked inside a big, domed brick oven fireplace and they use flat shovels on a stick to move the pie in and out. [image: Inline image 1] And then you've got your frozen pizza - DiGiorno's, Tombstone, Red Baron, and Tony's. And, then there's Pizza Hut, Pizza Inn, Domino's, Little Caesar's, and Papa John's. So, what exactly are the better ingredients in Papa John's pizza? They won't tell you, but it all comes in the back door on a SYSCO truck, just like all the other pizza joints in town. In Boulder, CO some guys invented a new
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
On 1/14/2014 8:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, dear boy, sometimes you can't make anything but manure out of manure. Let's see if we can dumb this down for you Ann: Zen is just like TM practice, and similar to Tibetan Dzogchen.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
Its a funny (not really) thing, to see, as men in our culture, become softer and softer, they compensate with these ridiculous masculine stereotypes. The last accountant I saw on some game show, looked like a lifer in a maximum security prison. In 20 or 30 years, someone is going to clean up big time; tatt removal for seniors, so we can no longer see through gramp's t-shirt, that he was once a Bad-Ass M* F* , or similar. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: In most cases,with all that long, grey hair, they look to me, as if they can't wait to get home, to push Hansel and Gretel into the oven. Natural color is natural, but trimming the split ends, using a conditioner, and styling the cut, is my vast preference for women's grey or silver hair. As for guys, no more faux-hawks, or con-style mustache and goatees (done to DEATH), and no, the new neo-beatnik peach-fuzz beard look, is NOT a winner. Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, style consultant, and inveterate loudmouth See, another zinger and funny too. Keep 'em comin', you're makin' my day so far. You must have eaten your Cheerios for breakfast... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, I've only seen one woman in FF with hair down to her ankles but lots of women in the Dome with hair down to their waist, etc. I like that older women feel free enough to let their grey or greying hair grow long. On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:26 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Do the bibs always go with long hair down to the ankles, or just in the case of this one woman? Ann, bibs is farmer shortcut language for shapeless pale peach colored or coloured bib overalls and yes, they go down to the ankles. I think they wear them for warmth. Go figure! Buck, what about the woman who walks around FF in shapeless bibs, with her long blond hair streaming...down to her ankles?! You gonna make her cut her very feminine hair? Have everybody shave their heads?!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Just what I was thinking. There are so many reasons these days to reduce, if not eliminate, one's consumption of meat that don't have anything to do with how one feels physically (or, for that matter, because one thinks it's spiritual not to eat meat, ethical considerations aside). The happy omnivore excuse for eating meat is mostly an anachronism. It may have made sense waay back when before factory livestock operations, before feeding livestock required a disproportionate share of agricultural land and water. How many people can a hamburger feed, versus the 16 times as much grain it takes to make that hamburger? Not to mention what we know now about the unhealthiness of a high-meat diet. Back in the happy omnivore days, what nature intended was for meat to be an occasional, even rare, treat, not the mainstay of the diet. Granted--Bhairitu will confirm this--some people don't do that well on a strictly vegetarian diet, and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for eating just enough meat to keep their physiology in good shape, especially if they can stick to chicken and fish. (A TM teacher of my acquaintance told me that Maharishi once said to someone who asked about eating meat: If you really have to, best to eat small animals.) And of course if you can afford it, buy free-range meat--it's better for you and, obviously, for the animals it comes from. But to puff oneself up and feel superior because one has rejected vegetarianism is the shallowest of egotistical nonsense. For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Seriously, was Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
On 1/14/2014 8:55 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Other than Bob and Judy the last time there were conversations that were extended and wide ranging was when Robin was around. Go figure. Judging by the response, nobody here is interested in what Bob or Judy think of film editing. Apparently neither of them know how to use Adobe Premier on a PC for digital editing. It's no good to just pose as a film critic when you can't even edit a home movie yourself with Microsoft Movie Maker. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
On 1/14/2014 9:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */Instead, let's ask why a bunch of people who claim that the TM tradition they're part of is not religious are so interesting in the succession intrigues of a *purely* religious tradition in India. /* It looks like you and Buck are the only bunch of people that are interested in the comings-and-goings of the Indian Shankaracharyas. And, obviously you know nothing about them, except why I've posted to FFL. Apparently you don't read the Times of India. Go figure. Maybe you should stick to reading about the Cathars because this is way to over your head - you probably don't even understand that Advaita Vedanta isn't considered to be a religion. How can you have a religion with no God or Creator?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seriously, was Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: Judging by the response, nobody here is interested in what Bob or Judy think of film editing. Judging by the response to their mutual egomasturbation thread, nobody here is interested in anything they think about *anything*. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
On 1/14/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, you were talking about ABC the other day. Can we trust their news stories? ABC news ran dozens of stories about Christie's recent bridge-gate scandal, but only one news review of Obama's IRS targeting of conservative groups. What does that tell you? ABC News is owned by Walt Disney. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Richard, as far as I can tell, Funny Farm Loungers are interested in what happens at BOTH ends of the alimentary canal. Go figure for real! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:58 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
Richard, it tells me that ABC News is a business that wants to have lots of readers and make a profit! Bridgegate is sexy and sells stuff, IRS scandal is not and does not! Very mysterious but there we are! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:13 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, you were talking about ABC the other day. Can we trust their news stories? ABC news ran dozens of stories about Christie's recent bridge-gate scandal, but only one news review of Obama's IRS targeting of conservative groups. What does that tell you? ABC News is owned by Walt Disney. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
Did you have some reason to doubt the information in this story, Share? noozguru, you were talking about ABC the other day. Can we trust their news stories? On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:07 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: Would you give a thief direct access to your checking account? '4 Risky Places to Swipe Your Debit Card' ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/debit-card/ http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-riskiest-places-swipe-debit-card/story?id=21489159
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
whoops! I amend that to say *some* Funny Farm Loungers... On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, as far as I can tell, Funny Farm Loungers are interested in what happens at BOTH ends of the alimentary canal. Go figure for real! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:58 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 1:48 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. /* So, I guess we know now where a lot of the methane is coming from. LoL! Sources of methane include natural sources like wetlands, gas hydrates in the ocean floor, permafrost, termites, oceans, freshwater bodies, and non-wetland soils. Fossil fuels, cattle, landfills and rice paddies are the main human-related sources. Read more: 'Methane's Impacts on Climate Change May Be Twice Previous Estimates' NASA, July 18, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/4mzr9s
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
On 1/14/2014 10:16 AM, Share Long wrote: it tells me that ABC News is a business that wants to have lots of readers and make a profit! Bridgegate is sexy and sells stuff, IRS scandal is not and does not! Very mysterious but there we are! That IRS scandal I was outraged about is no big deal - Barack Obama
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
Actually, the IRS scandal was pretty much a nothingburger blown up and embroidered by the Obama-hating right wing. It got plenty of media exposure at the time until it turned out to have very little substance (liberal groups were also targeted, just for one thing). Bridgegate is a genuine on-the-record scandal whether Christie personally had anything to do with it or not. Not a thing mysterious about it. Richard, it tells me that ABC News is a business that wants to have lots of readers and make a profit! Bridgegate is sexy and sells stuff, IRS scandal is not and does not! Very mysterious but there we are! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:13 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 1/14/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, you were talking about ABC the other day. Can we trust their news stories? ABC news ran dozens of stories about Christie's recent bridge-gate scandal, but only one news review of Obama's IRS targeting of conservative groups. What does that tell you? ABC News is owned by Walt Disney. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote: So, let's review what we know about the Jyotirmath succession controversy: Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, of Jyotirmath Let's not. Instead, let's ask why a bunch of people who claim that the TM tradition they're part of is not religious are so interesting in the succession intrigues of a *purely* religious tradition in India. We might also ask why they perform traditional Hindu ceremonies called pujas to the leaders of this religious tradition, and consider themselves part of it when talking about their Holy Tradition. Interestingly enough, however, when presenting TM to the public, they keep repeating the not religious meme. Go figure. You make some interesting points but hasn't this ground been covered umpteen million times with this group over the last decade or so? While I can appreciate your perseverance I question your sanity.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The glow-- 1959 (Maharishi)
Dear, Dear Anartaxius; Nope, your mental construct about me is wrong entirely here. I feel full hope and encouragement and ultimate Compassion and Love for the spiritual quitters and haters. I leave them lots of room for reform. For, “Whether pure or impure, whether purity or impurity is reigning everywhere, whosoever opens themselves to the expanded vision of unbounded awareness gains inner and outer purity”. That is extremely beautiful postulate verified in Reality of Natural Law of the Unified Field. The quitters just need only change their thinking around this in more and longer [spiritual] experience. The quitters threw it away but the Unified Field of the Transcendence is always open. The Quitters walked out the door but fortunately the door swings both ways and is never locked. It would be with tears of great joy that we should welcome back any of the profligate sons or daughters in from the desert to the meditation again. . Come sit here and take this flower. There is lots of room for you all, saints or sinners, in our Meditation. Come join together with Us, with the ME. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome Anartaxius wrote. . By berating them in this way Buck, you give them no chance to grow. Not everyone succeeds with enlightenment, and in particular necessarily succeeds with a particular system of practices and pointers, and they having failed along one path, why not allow them the courtesy of finding another? For many here it would seem that ineffective practice is TM etc. Buck wrote: Yeah was outrageous, these recent deniers of subtle experience here on FFL. Shear blasphemy. A sin against a birthright of their own nature; denying subtle experience by an angry authority only of their own non-experience. Simply in-credible ignorance rooted in some morass of their own ineffective practice in life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Losing your Veginity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 1/14/2014 1:48 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. So, I guess we know now where a lot of the methane is coming from. LoL! LOL. I have no problem with that characterization. IMO, anyone who *does* have a problem with everything they write here being characterized as mind farts is deceiving themselves, and in serious danger of taking themselves FAR too seriously. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 10:20 AM, Share Long wrote: I amend that to say *some* Funny Farm Loungers... Some Funny Farmers are interested in what people eat and what people wear. Some Funny Farmers are interested in whether human excrement flows down stream or not. And, some Funny Farmers are just interested in what Richard and Share post every day. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL! Is this the same as knowing the chemical composition of flatulance? You might find this link useful, Ricky. You are an old fart, right? http://myshreddies.com/ http://myshreddies.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
On 1/14/2014 10:14 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you have some reason to doubt the information in this story, Share? The IRS knows all about everyone - what's to comment on? Death, taxes and the IRS Lies. There is absolutely no targeting. This is the kind of back and forth that happens when people apply for 501(c)(4) status. - Douglas Shulman, IRS Commissioner That’s obviously false. FactCheckOrg: http://tinyurl.com/qx4vccb
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seriously, was Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
Got 'im! Judging by the response, nobody here is interested in what Bob or Judy think of film editing. Judging by the response to their mutual egomasturbation thread, nobody here is interested in anything they think about *anything*. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:49 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Well, dear boy, sometimes you can't make anything but manure out of manure. Let's see if we can dumb this down for you Ann: Zen is just like TM practice, and similar to Tibetan Dzogchen. You couldn't make it any dumber than it already is, Ricky. The dumb part is actually fighting over it. You win, you know more about Zen than I do but do you know more than Empty? That seems to be what your pissing match is all about.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Just what I was thinking. There are so many reasons these days to reduce, if not eliminate, one's consumption of meat that don't have anything to do with how one feels physically (or, for that matter, because one thinks it's spiritual not to eat meat, ethical considerations aside). The happy omnivore excuse for eating meat is mostly an anachronism. It may have made sense waay back when before factory livestock operations, before feeding livestock required a disproportionate share of agricultural land and water. How many people can a hamburger feed, versus the 16 times as much grain it takes to make that hamburger? Not to mention what we know now about the unhealthiness of a high-meat diet. Back in the happy omnivore days, what nature intended was for meat to be an occasional, even rare, treat, not the mainstay of the diet. Granted--Bhairitu will confirm this--some people don't do that well on a strictly vegetarian diet, and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for eating just enough meat to keep their physiology in good shape, especially if they can stick to chicken and fish. (A TM teacher of my acquaintance told me that Maharishi once said to someone who asked about eating meat: If you really have to, best to eat small animals.) And of course if you can afford it, buy free-range meat--it's better for you and, obviously, for the animals it comes from. But to puff oneself up and feel superior because one has rejected vegetarianism is the shallowest of egotistical nonsense. Thanks for this incisive post. You have said a lot here and most of it encompasses my feelings about this subject. I do eat small creatures because I feel sometimes I need to eat meat - things like fish and birds. Fish I would have a hard time cutting out of my diet but for the rest of the meat, I could leave it alone. For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seriously, was Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: Judging by the response, nobody here is interested in what Bob or Judy think of film editing. Judging by the response to their mutual egomasturbation thread, nobody here is interested in anything they think about *anything*. :-) I don't suspect they are participating in their thread for your benefit, Bawwy, even if you had the intellectual capacity or even curiosity to follow it. Stick to the subjects you can sort of talk about, movies and movie stars, oh, and cunts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:44 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Now Ricky, try and be understanding. Most of the world pays homage to phalluses every day of their lives - either to their own or to those that they hope they might embrace one day. . Yeah, but not very many yogis mistake the pointing finger for the moon itself. Go figure. That, I wouldn't know about.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Losing your Veginity
My first experience with the idea of biochemical individuality came in 1972 when a friend's wife who was attending naturopathic college recommended it get a physical there. The MD (who was getting his ND) asked if I was a vegetarian and I said no, but I've been trying it for a couple of weeks. He told me I was already showing signs of anemia and recommended eating some animal protein two or three times a week. That began my interests in using specific diets with first the macrobiotic diet after reading William Duffy's Sugar Blues. BTW, that isn't about just eating brown rice and the books on it had diets to balance yin and yang and would often recommend fish. Then there was then interest in ayurveda sparked by the AE courses. I got some books on that to read up on it. Another interest among TM'ers in the late 1970s was the Bieler diet. He was an endocrinologist who had specific diets for people with different endocrine makeups. The doctor TM'er saw for that was Abravenal out of Los Angeles. Finally a group of folks in Seattle got interested in the Kelley program which was a computerized diet system that evaluated whether you were a fast oxidizer, slow oxidizer or mixed oxidizer. There were diet programs for each and specific supplements. To this day I use these concepts along with Indian and Chinese medical concepts to keep my body out of trouble. Nutrition is not an ideology. You NEED to eat what your body needs. There is no way around this. I've watched people who shouldn't be vegans adopt that diet (which is primarily a cleansing diet) start living in their head. They seem to like the high but some of them are beginning to have the medical problems that an inappropriate diet can cause. On 01/13/2014 11:48 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: */Good article, and about bloody time. Those of us who gave up vegetarianism years ago get subjected to proselytizing about how cool and wonderful and...well...more evolved vegetarian eating is almost every day on the Net and in the press. But no one speaks up for those of us who tried it, didn't like it much, and went back to being what nature intended us to be -- happy omnivores. In my case, my breakthrough moment after years of being strict veggie (although never anything weirder and more fundamentalist like Vegan or macrobiotic or gluten-free) was at an ATR course at Cobb Mountain. I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. /* */http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
Did you ask him about his practice of targeting his female students as sex partners? On Tue, 1/14/14, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 3:49 PM blog updates fromBuddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. published 01/14/2014213. John Hagelin, Ph.D.Jan 13, 2014 08:33 am | RickJohn Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, author, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin has conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. He is responsible for the … Continue reading →The post 213. John Hagelin, Ph.D. appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump.213_john_hagelin.mp3 62.5 MBcomments | read moreElsewhere· Visit My Blog· Share This with a friend· Follow me on Twitter· RSS feed
[FairfieldLife] Re: Losing your Veginity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: My first experience with the idea of biochemical individuality came in 1972 when a friend's wife who was attending naturopathic college recommended it get a physical there. The MD (who was getting his ND) asked if I was a vegetarian and I said no, but I've been trying it for a couple of weeks. He told me I was already showing signs of anemia and recommended eating some animal protein two or three times a week. That began my interests in using specific diets with first the macrobiotic diet after reading William Duffy's Sugar Blues. BTW, that isn't about just eating brown rice and the books on it had diets to balance yin and yang and would often recommend fish. Then there was then interest in ayurveda sparked by the AE courses. I got some books on that to read up on it. Another interest among TM'ers in the late 1970s was the Bieler diet. He was an endocrinologist who had specific diets for people with different endocrine makeups. The doctor TM'er saw for that was Abravenal out of Los Angeles. Finally a group of folks in Seattle got interested in the Kelley program which was a computerized diet system that evaluated whether you were a fast oxidizer, slow oxidizer or mixed oxidizer. There were diet programs for each and specific supplements. To this day I use these concepts along with Indian and Chinese medical concepts to keep my body out of trouble. Nutrition is not an ideology. You NEED to eat what your body needs. There is no way around this. I've watched people who shouldn't be vegans adopt that diet (which is primarily a cleansing diet) start living in their head. They seem to like the high but some of them are beginning to have the medical problems that an inappropriate diet can cause. I literally haven't given a thought to my diet since the day that chicken breast called my name, and don't feel any the worse for it. Fortunately, I tend towards natural foods, so that's what I eat if I cook for myself or with my extended family at home. If out for dinner at other people's homes or in restaurants, I eat what I'm served. So far, there have been zero adverse effects, and I avoid the TMer Syndrome of being overfocused on health and my health problems that is so tiring and *so* antithetical to their overall message of TM for perfect health. On 01/13/2014 11:48 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: */Good article, and about bloody time. Those of us who gave up vegetarianism years ago get subjected to proselytizing about how cool and wonderful and...well...more evolved vegetarian eating is almost every day on the Net and in the press. But no one speaks up for those of us who tried it, didn't like it much, and went back to being what nature intended us to be -- happy omnivores. In my case, my breakthrough moment after years of being strict veggie (although never anything weirder and more fundamentalist like Vegan or macrobiotic or gluten-free) was at an ATR course at Cobb Mountain. I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. /* */http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html /*
[FairfieldLife] So you think you have problems with Yahoo now?
Just wait until the fascist pigs that run your ISP decide what you're going to read and watch. Time to organize and break up the telecoms into a 1000 pieces. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57617199-38/appeals-court-strikes-down-fccs-net-neutrality-rules/
[FairfieldLife] Parade of TMer intellectuals and free thinkers :-)
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RE: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:19 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 Did you ask him about his practice of targeting his female students as sex partners? Like most of us, I think he’s older and wiser now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
On 1/14/2014 10:40 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: you know more about Zen than I do but do you know more than Empty? Actually if you know about TM you already know quite a bit about Zen practice. In Zen terms, having a pure mind simply means realizing one's true nature. But, it looks like Empty is kind of confused about the emptiness part, judging by what he posts here. For example he didn't seem to realize the difference between basic Buddhist tantra and Hindu tantra. Everyone knows that the term shakti isn't even used n Tibetan Buddhism. In the male-female polarity symbolism of Tibetan Buddhism, the female aspect is the wisdom aspect and the male aspect is the active. In The source is the pure Mind before it gets stirred up or begins to vibrate in the form of a thought. The Zennist: February 28, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/77d24tu
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
On 1/14/2014 10:25 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually, the IRS scandal was pretty much a nothingburger blown up and embroidered by the Obama-hating right wing. It got plenty of media exposure at the time until it turned out to have very little substance (liberal groups were also targeted, just for one thing). So, how many people got fired or were forced into retirement or quit, because of the IRS targeting scandal? Was it three or four? Obama said it was outrageous. The Obama IRS targeting scandal mountain makes Christie's bridge gate look like a tiny ant hill. First, only conservative groups were targeted in this scandal by the IRS. Liberal or progressive groups were not targeted. The IRS leaked conservative groups' confidential applications and donor lists to liberal groups, never the other way around. 'A Battering Ram Becomes a Stonewall' Wall Street Journal: http://tinyurl.com/nwkdd9zIs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 11:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */Fortunately, I tend towards natural foods/* So, you're on a natural foods diet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] So you think you have problems with Yahoo now?
On 1/14/2014 11:34 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Time to organize and break up the telecoms into a 1000 pieces. The best solution to discrimination by broadband providers is to encourage greater competition among such providers, which is currently limited in many areas. For example, there is Time-Warner around here or ATT DSL. What we need is more choices for internet connectivity and far faster connections. It's all about the tubes - who is going to invest in laying fiber-optic when they can buy their own T1 connection and resell it and make a profit?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
A char-broiled grass-fed beef burger is incomparable in taste and sustenance for me, when I want one, which is about once a month, maybe --- preferably grilled outdoors. If I want to reground my connection, and do some heavy lifting, its beef or carnitas all the way. Summer, I eat more fish. I am not a big meatie, though I really like it, when I like it. I also drink a lot of milk, and soy/whey protein drinks. Mo.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Just what I was thinking. There are so many reasons these days to reduce, if not eliminate, one's consumption of meat that don't have anything to do with how one feels physically (or, for that matter, because one thinks it's spiritual not to eat meat, ethical considerations aside). The happy omnivore excuse for eating meat is mostly an anachronism. It may have made sense waay back when before factory livestock operations, before feeding livestock required a disproportionate share of agricultural land and water. How many people can a hamburger feed, versus the 16 times as much grain it takes to make that hamburger? Not to mention what we know now about the unhealthiness of a high-meat diet. Back in the happy omnivore days, what nature intended was for meat to be an occasional, even rare, treat, not the mainstay of the diet. Granted--Bhairitu will confirm this--some people don't do that well on a strictly vegetarian diet, and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for eating just enough meat to keep their physiology in good shape, especially if they can stick to chicken and fish. (A TM teacher of my acquaintance told me that Maharishi once said to someone who asked about eating meat: If you really have to, best to eat small animals.) And of course if you can afford it, buy free-range meat--it's better for you and, obviously, for the animals it comes from. But to puff oneself up and feel superior because one has rejected vegetarianism is the shallowest of egotistical nonsense. Thanks for this incisive post. You have said a lot here and most of it encompasses my feelings about this subject. I do eat small creatures because I feel sometimes I need to eat meat - things like fish and birds. Fish I would have a hard time cutting out of my diet but for the rest of the meat, I could leave it alone. For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu wrote: That began my interests in using specific diets with first the macrobiotic diet after reading William Duffy's Sugar Blues. Eat right to keep fit. - Adelle Davis Yes, I read that too, and then Frances Moore Lappe's Diet for a Small Planet. Adelle Davis is another good place to start thinking about what people eat. In the end, it all boils down to a choice between short-term economic gain and long-term factor (resource) productivity. As Aldous Huxley stated in the epilogue of his classic, Brave New World, You pays your money and you takes your choice. Your greatest wealth is your health. - Dr. P. Rotundi World Hunger: Twelve Myths by Frances Moore Lappe, Joseph Collins, and Peter Rosset Institute for Food and Development PolicyOakland, Calif.
Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
If there were any editorial standards on FFL, the moderator would delete this libelous assertion. My bet is that MJ is pissed off because John likely got more pussy at MIU than he did. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Did you ask him about his practice of targeting his female students as sex partners? On Tue, 1/14/14, Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 3:49 PM blog updates fromBuddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. http://batgap.com. published 01/14/2014213. John Hagelin, Ph.D.Jan 13, 2014 08:33 am | RickJohn Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, author, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin has conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. He is responsible for the … Continue reading →The post 213. John Hagelin, Ph.D. appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump.213_john_hagelin.mp3 62.5 MBcomments | read moreElsewhere· Visit My Blog· Share This with a friend· Follow me on Twitter· RSS feed
Re: [FairfieldLife] So you think you have problems with Yahoo now?
The FCC is going to appeal. Let's support them on this. It's no time to play neo-libertarian. The best solution is municipal fiber. The Internet is a highway so let's treat it like one. It can pay for itself and if your local government doesn't keep it up it will be very noticeable and you can throw the bums out. We do have a third provider moving into the area. They aren't in my neighborhood yet but I keep getting their fliers. If they want to win and Net Neutrality goes away they could win a lot of customers by saying they will keep Net Neutrality. But it's run by suits too so I'm not going hold my breathe on that one. On 01/14/2014 10:54 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 1/14/2014 11:34 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Time to organize and break up the telecoms into a 1000 pieces. The best solution to discrimination by broadband providers is to encourage greater competition among such providers, which is currently limited in many areas. For example, there is Time-Warner around here or ATT DSL. What we need is more choices for internet connectivity and far faster connections. It's all about the tubes - who is going to invest in laying fiber-optic when they can buy their own T1 connection and resell it and make a profit?
[FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: If there were any editorial standards on FFL, the moderator would delete this libelous assertion. My bet is that MJ is pissed off because John likely got more pussy at MIU than he did. The sophistication of your arguments, the complexity of your delivery is really something to behold, Fester. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Did you ask him about his practice of targeting his female students as sex partners? On Tue, 1/14/14, Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 3:49 PM blog updates fromBuddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. http://batgap.com. published 01/14/2014213. John Hagelin, Ph.D.Jan 13, 2014 08:33 am | RickJohn Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, author, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin has conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. He is responsible for the … Continue reading →The post 213. John Hagelin, Ph.D. appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump.213_john_hagelin.mp3 62.5 MBcomments | read moreElsewhere· Visit My Blog· Share This with a friend· Follow me on Twitter· RSS feed
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen
That's interesting, Richard because Maharishi explains Purusha as infinite silence and Prakriti as infinite dynamism. On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:10 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 10:40 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: you know more about Zen than I do but do you know more than Empty? Actually if you know about TM you already know quite a bit about Zen practice. In Zen terms, having a pure mind simply means realizing one's true nature. But, it looks like Empty is kind of confused about the emptiness part, judging by what he posts here. For example he didn't seem to realize the difference between basic Buddhist tantra and Hindu tantra. Everyone knows that the term shakti isn't even used n Tibetan Buddhism. In the male-female polarity symbolism of Tibetan Buddhism, the female aspect is the wisdom aspect and the male aspect is the active. In The source is the pure Mind before it gets stirred up or begins to vibrate in the form of a thought. The Zennist: February 28, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/77d24tu
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: If there were any editorial standards on FFL, the moderator would delete this libelous assertion. My bet is that MJ is pissed off because John likely got more pussy at MIU than he did. Don't be ridiculous. If Hagelin had been a professor at any other American university, and his sexual exploits were as well known as Hagelin's were, he'd have been fired in an instant. It's a power differential issue as much as it is a morality issue. If you're a ranking member of the university hierarchy, there is no such thing as mutual consent when you're bedding someone you could have expelled at any moment. Add to that the issue of Hagelin being perceived as close to Maharishi, the serial sexual abuser many people in the TMO mistook for God, and you compound the issue. Libel is only libel if it isn't true. Any of us who worked in the TM hierarchy knew of Hagelin's proclivities. And Domash's. And Bevan's. If you didn't, it was because you were either not running in the circles they ran in, or you didn't want to know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
On 1/14/2014 1:11 PM, feste37 wrote: If there were any editorial standards on FFL, the moderator would delete this libelous assertion. My bet is that MJ is pissed off because John likely got more pussy at MIU than he did. If there were ANY kind of standards on FFL, not only would the moderator delete this assertion, but the present contributing informants would object to this kind of slander as well. This is just outrageous! The anonymous MJ outed John Hegelin on a public forum dedicated to discussing spiritual life in Fairfield, IA. This calls for a banning, or at least a suspension. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] #4 finally stands up for himself
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Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
Most everybody got more at MIU than I did, but that was true everywhere I went, so it didn't bother me. One of the first things I saw at MIU after I had been sent to pick some big wig up at the airport in Cedar Rapids was returning to campus about 9:30, 10:00 pm and as I entered campus I watched this guy pull up on a motorcycle, park right outside the ground floor window at the girl's dorm, window opens, beautiful blonde German girl and even more beautiful American brunette girl, both grinning from ear to ear help the guy climb in over the window sill, window closes, curtain closes and he was in for the night. I pulled on past and congratulated him in my mind and realized it was a different MIU than the one I had heard about through the True Blue Ru's. On Tue, 1/14/14, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 7:11 PM If there were any editorial standards on FFL, the moderator would delete this libelous assertion. My bet is that MJ is pissed off because John likely got more pussy at MIU than he did. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Did you ask him about his practice of targeting his female students as sex partners? On Tue, 1/14/14, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 3:49 PM blog updates fromBuddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. published 01/14/2014213. John Hagelin, Ph.D.Jan 13, 2014 08:33 am | RickJohn Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, author, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin has conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. He is responsible for the … Continue reading →The post 213. John Hagelin, Ph.D. appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump.213_john_hagelin.mp3 62.5 MBcomments | read moreElsewhere· Visit My Blog· Share This with a friend· Follow me on Twitter· RSS feed
Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
you're an idiot - Hagelin, Bevan and all the others sexual exploits have already been discussed and debated on FFL long before I got here and after I arrived by plenty of others. On Tue, 1/14/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 9:53 PM On 1/14/2014 1:11 PM, feste37 wrote: If there were any editorial standards on FFL, the moderator would delete this libelous assertion. My bet is that MJ is pissed off because John likely got more pussy at MIU than he did. If there were ANY kind of standards on FFL, not only would the moderator delete this assertion, but the present contributing informants would object to this kind of slander as well. This is just outrageous! The anonymous MJ outed John Hegelin on a public forum dedicated to discussing spiritual life in Fairfield, IA. This calls for a banning, or at least a suspension. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Most everybody got more at MIU than I did, but that was true everywhere I went, so it didn't bother me. One of the first things I saw at MIU after I had been sent to pick some big wig up at the airport in Cedar Rapids was returning to campus about 9:30, 10:00 pm and as I entered campus I watched this guy pull up on a motorcycle, park right outside the ground floor window at the girl's dorm, window opens, beautiful blonde German girl and even more beautiful American brunette girl, both grinning from ear to ear help the guy climb in over the window sill, window closes, curtain closes and he was in for the night. I pulled on past and congratulated him in my mind and realized it was a different MIU than the one I had heard about through the True Blue Ru's. I sometimes think that almost everyone thinks that everyone else is getting more nookie than they are. :-) The thing is, depending on the era you're talking about, in the early (pre-1978) TMO, it was possibly true. It was, after all, the Seventies. Post-pill and pre-AIDS and pretty damned loose. I was on non-gender-segregated ATR courses at Cobb Mountain where *most* of the participants (all single) were gettin' laid pretty much every night. The joint was rockin' more than Haight-Ashbury was back in its heyday. :-) But on ATR courses it was teacher-to-teacher sex, not teacher-to-student sex. There is a difference, and a line there that many (including myself) never crossed.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are we getting smarter or dumber?
We're getting dumber. At least most everyone else is ;-) The article only skimmed the issue but it's not clear to me why having instant access to info via the internet makes someone smart. No more than being able to look up an entry in the Encyclopedia Britannica. Someone who had taken the trouble to learn how to speak a foreign language (Latin, for example) will have disciplined herself and engaged parts of her brain a keyboard tapper misses out on. That extra factor will have honed the intelligence of the time traveller. Someone who has mastered the openings in chess will have a keen edge to his intellect completely lacking in a modern who just uses a computer to provide a ready-made solution. A comment below the article quotes Albert Einstein : “Never remember anything that you can look up”. But would you want a secretary who always had to look up how to spell a word? You want the knowledge to be integral to the person - to have that organic connection - and not be an add-on or an app. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: This New Yorker article points out that the answer depends on what you mean by we. Does that include you and your smartphone, or just you? http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2014/01/if-a-time-traveller-saw-a-smartphone.html http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2014/01/if-a-time-traveller-saw-a-smartphone.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we getting smarter or dumber?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: We're getting dumber. At least most everyone else is ;-) I agree. I just posted the article to see if anyone else would. The article only skimmed the issue but it's not clear to me why having instant access to info via the internet makes someone smart. No more than being able to look up an entry in the Encyclopedia Britannica. Exactly. You see the same thing here on FFL, where people who have ego problems read a post about something they know nothing about but feel that they have to say something, so they go running to Wikipedia and Google and then spout off as if they know shit. That's not intelligence; that's being an intellectual poseur. Someone who had taken the trouble to learn how to speak a foreign language (Latin, for example) will have disciplined herself and engaged parts of her brain a keyboard tapper misses out on. That extra factor will have honed the intelligence of the time traveller. Someone who has mastered the openings in chess will have a keen edge to his intellect completely lacking in a modern who just uses a computer to provide a ready-made solution. Agreed. But don't dump on keyboard tappers too much. I lament the day when autocomplete and mobile keyboards obsolete the concept of Being Able To Write. Although I say it somewhat tongue in cheek, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the future one of the primary causes of Alzheimers is proved to be the curse of having information at your fingertips via computers and mobiles. Who needs memory and actual learning when this little device covers your ass and you can use it to convince others that you know stuff you really don't? The rule of biology is Use it or lose it. You're not using it when you look up shit on Google.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
Re The last accountant I saw on some game show, looked like a lifer in a maximum security prison.: I always wonder when I see a muscular type whether they're unemployed or have just got out of prison. Who else has the time to put in?
