[FairfieldLife] soma-maNDala in Vedic (Sanskrit), part 1

2005-03-14 Thread cardemaister
(Most diacritics removed for easier reading) (713) svaadiShThayaa madiShThayaa pavasva soma dhaarayaa | indraaya paatave sutaH || {9}{001}{01} rakShohaa vishvacarShaNir abhi yonim ayohatam | druNaa sadhastham aasadat || {9}{001}{02} varivodhaatamo bhava maMhiShTho vRtrahantamaH

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have confidence, based on my experience with the centerpiece of Vedic culture (TM), that Maharishi's revival of Vedic wisdom (the Ayurveda and Soma-explaining content of which he handed off to Chopra) is

[FairfieldLife] MMY on vegetarianism - 1957

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Mason
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[FairfieldLife] MMY on vegetarianism - 1957

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Mason
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhist 'Nirvana' Vs. Hindu 'Moksha'

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
[[1. All what is that? 2. All this is what? and Nelson wrote [[And whose on third? [snip] relativly irrelevant to me.]] ** its all tit for tat! om ta-da!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Mark wrote [[Sure, that sounds reasonable enough, but no less of a reason to seek out its identity.]] ** oh .. that is not my intent. i have loads of info on soma .. fascinating subject. my conclusion, through the years, is that it is - as i wrote in my origional comments - both an

[FairfieldLife] Amma, Krishna and Jesus Christ

2005-03-14 Thread rgjcm
This is an excerpt of an interview Amma gave to the number one weekly magazine in India, The Week, in September 2003. Interview/Mata Amritanandamayi/My karma is to console By C. Sujit Chandra Kumar Your biography says you converted water to panchamritham (sweet dish). I don't think of it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some nutjob trying to get back at the movement for some reason. More conspiracy theory lunacy . Well which is it? - either you believe it's some nutjob who did it or you don't believe it happened. That it

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on vegetarianism - 1957

2005-03-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
Paul Mason wrote: My own Self as Representatives of East and West! Extracted from Maharishi's address to the 15th session of the World Vegetarian Congress held at Madras on 30 November 1957 Allegedly 'taken from a Canadian Publication from the early 1960s' ?Does anyone know what

[FairfieldLife] Soma and Ecstasy in the Rgveda from EJVS

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
Too long to post here. http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/ejvs0901/ejvs0901e.txt To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Peter S. wrote [[The only soma I've experienced has been internal. It's the source of the bodily bliss from spiritual practices.]] ** i agree, however, i am also inclined to think, based on the literature available, there is more to it than that. i just sent a post off listing all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Rudra Joe wrote [[sounds like you're teaching like most other sadhus for money and residence.]] ** well, what sounds like is not like. i dont ask for anything, mostly i give. the 'societal construct' i mentioned was already explained in another post. om peace!.. rudrani To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Ved Superior or More Fundamental Knowledge?

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
The only problem with Vedism is that it is a priestly religion for the elite, and so the average person can't relate to it. It's merely worship without whatever awareness evolution might come from that great word gnosis. The great thing about yoga which surely preceeded Vedism is that it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved Superior or More Fundamental Knowledge?

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
You just don't like anyone do ya?What about neo Zhang Zhung Nyan Gyud??Anyway he was talking about a more powerful reality than a tradition. The power of that which underlies matter. Matter is a thin crust of reality on a vast ocean of intelligence.My wife takes the crust off. I like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped his philosophy and love for all of humankind merely on the tenets of his fathers was like saying

[FairfieldLife] Is it okay to joke about sutras?

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Mason
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Sutphen
I agree with you that it is more than just produced in our bodies by we lame-ass yogis/yoginis. That's only one aspect of it. I've also experienced soma flowing/spraying into the environment through the senses. Almost like the sense was working in reverse. -Peter --- rudrani [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it okay to joke about sutras?

2005-03-14 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/rumpledeerskin.htm Only if it's fun. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread mark robert
From: rudrani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? Mark wrote [[Sure, that sounds reasonable enough, but no less of a reason to seek out its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Look I'm fucking Busy --

2005-03-14 Thread kalliope108
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was off skiing yesterday, and now there are 211 posts in my FFL box, most of which I¹ll {{{have to}}} delete without reading *** You are a brave and smart man, Rick. You may also enjoy this site Re: Vedanta

[FairfieldLife] soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
i may get whose-who confused here but the intents the same. Peter S. wrote [[I've also experienced soma flowing/spraying into the environment through the senses. Almost like the sense was working in reverse.]] i think this was Mark [[Instead of consciousness flowing out, as it were, to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend) Lupidus states as proven fact, far-fetched claims for which he has no concrete evidence. Sure sign of a fundamentalist who finds pseudo-security in an imaginary world. on 3/14/05 10:10 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhist 'Nirvana' Vs. Hindu 'Moksha'

2005-03-14 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudrani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [[1. All what is that? 2. All this is what? and Nelson wrote [[And whose on third? [snip] relativly irrelevant to me.]] ** its all tit for tat! om ta-da!.. rudrani + This theory was disproved many years

[FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic

2005-03-14 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Peter Sutphen writes: Interesting. The subject-object dynamics of the senses don't seem to remain the same as you move from gross to subtle. Do the senses project the objects of their experience? You can transcend with your eyes open thinking about this stuff! -Peter Tom T: The interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Look I'm fucking Busy

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks¹ RJ. I was off skiing yesterday, Where did you go? Fun Valley? http://www.skifunvalley.com/ Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some nutjob trying to get back at the movement for some reason. More conspiracy theory lunacy . Well which is it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-14 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped his philosophy and love

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Stanley
Re: ephedra with cannabis I guess you could call that a Vedic speedball. The only upper/downer combo I'm familiar with is caffeine and alcohol, and I must admit getting wired on black coffee before getting hammered drunk is quite a thrill ride. Alex, sober 9+ years To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic Translation)

2005-03-14 Thread akasha_108
Peter Sutphen wrote: I agree with you that it is more than just produced in our bodies by we lame-ass yogis/yoginis. That's only one aspect of it. I've also experienced soma flowing/spraying into the environment through the senses. Almost like the sense was working in reverse. -Peter I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma-maNDala in Vedic (Sanskrit), part 1

2005-03-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Most diacritics removed for easier reading) (713) svaadiShThayaa madiShThayaa pavasva soma dhaarayaa | svaadiShThayaa: svaadu (sweet); svaadhiShTha : superlative (sweetest); svaadiSTha-yaa: instrumental

[FairfieldLife] Gandhi quote

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think of it, ALWAYS. Mahatma Gandhi To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra

2005-03-14 Thread mark robert
From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:41 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _ One of the

[FairfieldLife] Soma and the Big Bhang Theory

2005-03-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also a longstanding tradition that cannabis sativa is the soma plant. No firm opinion here. While evidence may be scant, there are some interesting parallels. It is prescribed that bhang be made with milk, and

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - You didn't answer my question. What is your direct personal experience with Punditji to come to such a conclusion? -Peter If I had seen Mr. Shankar regularily for years, would that make you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/05 3:52 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had seen Mr. Shankar regularily for years, would that make you satisfied ? Why should I give you any details whatsoever of my experiences with Ravi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Atman vs Anatman

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
voga citta vritti nirodaha. yoga is cessation of the tendencies of the mind. nirvana. cessation. you figure it out. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Atman vs

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
lupidus wrote [[Or with real saints like Maharishi, Muktananda, Amma or Shri Chimnoy for that matter .. ]] ** and Ma Yoga Shakti. om Mataji!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Atman vs Anatman

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:02 PM, rudra_joe wrote: voga citta vritti nirodaha. yoga is cessation of the tendencies of the mind. nirvana. cessation. you figure it out. Naw, mere cessation won't cut it. Sure way to get rebirth in a formless realm. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhist 'Nirvana' Vs. Hindu 'Moksha'

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
Actually the difference is practical only for the mind at first when one is on the path. Because at that point one can immerse the mind in samadhi and yet when returning to the daily life nothing has changed and one keeps making the same mistakes and still one can't seem to get it just

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Rick asked [[What makes these people real saints as opposed to Mr. Shankar?]] ** aside from being recognized as having spiritual traits, such as, but not limited to: all embracing compassion, love wisdom, there is an organization, like the Vatican for example, that acknowledges bestows

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2005, at 1:50 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: We were given the tools in our Sidhi practice. The objective was not to really learn how to fly but to be able to fully function once we woke up. Cool! Another master stroke by a true Master. If you knew the real reason

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Sutphen
Comments and questions below: --- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - You didn't answer my question. What is your direct personal experience with Punditji to come to such a conclusion? -Peter If I had seen Mr. Shankar regularily for years, would that make you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhist 'Nirvana' Vs. Hindu 'Moksha'

2005-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the difference is practical only for the mind at first when one is on the path. Because at that point one can immerse the mind in samadhi and yet when returning to the daily life nothing has changed and one keeps

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 2005, at 1:50 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: We were given the tools in our Sidhi practice. The objective was not to really learn how to fly but to be able to fully function once we woke up. Cool! Another master stroke

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _ SNIP Bob, It's nice that you can have so much faith in those who claim to know Soma without supplying a sound Vedic foundation. I mean the problem is the contrary evidence present in Vedic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I visited Amma's Indian ashram - part I

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I visited Amma's Indian ashram - part I on 3/13/05 1:51 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, What are you thoughts on these and related posts? As I read through these Amma posts Im going to respond to some of them by posting some things written

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, S.A. Feite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob: When soma has done its job, and Brahman/Unity Consciousness is gained, then the body produces amrita, the nectar of immortality, which allows one to live forever in that body if desired. What is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2005, at 6:34 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The TM-siddhi program is a powerful, powerful technique that fosters awareness of Self through the buddhi/intellect. It pulls Self into awareness in the pauses between sutras. The mind begins to spontaneously discriminate between the points

Re: [FairfieldLife] Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/05 2:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, the only part that surprised me personally was the misrepresentation of the charitable activities, which I now accept as a possibility but not as a proven thing. This will shake out for awhile and eventually I will

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Bob supplied [[ http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/soma/ ]] ** hhhmm .. ok. two things: first, it sounds like vampirism; second, whats wrong w/being a religion? why the court action? om peace!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] name that tune

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Brigante
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[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudrani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob supplied [[ http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/soma/ ]] ** hhhmm .. ok. two things: first, it sounds like vampirism; second, whats wrong w/being a religion? why the court action? om peace!.. rudrani

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have confidence, based on my experience with the centerpiece of Vedic culture (TM), that Maharishi's revival of Vedic wisdom (the

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra

2005-03-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _ From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:41 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra --- In

[FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic

2005-03-14 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Vaj writes: re Sidhi practice I still use it, you can integrate it, I don't feel any need to reject it as a practice. But it cannot lead to UC. Well maybe Unity Andy...;-) Tom T: Well actually the Sidhi practice might lead to a minute or two in Unity and then the entire weight of the practice

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra

2005-03-14 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, you are definitely suggesting links to Soma. I mean, the Rig Veda is/was the origin of the word. No other definition of Soma that came later could possibly be more accurate. I am not sure why oldest is best.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2005, at 8:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: Are you under the impression that Soma only existed in Rig Veda times? I don't know that it did or did not, though I speculate that it has been formulated in its outer form at various times through the ages. Well there is a very old tradition

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
rudrani wrote regarding http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/soma: it sounds like vampirism What's cool is to be a TMing Christian. You eat the body and blood of Christ when you take communion, and Indra drinks the soma you produce in meditation. To the extent that the communion bread and

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, SNIP Easyone wrote Bob You have clearly shown the complete surrender of your own opinion, reasoning, thought and well, I guess everything to M and whoever else meets your requirements for being in the know. Does this restrict itself to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhist 'Nirvana' Vs. Hindu 'Moksha'

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:18 PM, rudra_joe wrote: However, tantra is like drinking poison, once started the mind and personality dissolve and someone if they really were materialists can feel like hell.  It takes the having sex on a corpse in a graveyard mentality for Bhairava and Chandi

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Ephedra

2005-03-14 Thread m2smart4u2000
snip Ephedra is the Mua hang plant used in Chinese medicene. It basically counter acts Kapha and is excellent for people with breathing disorders ie mucus and colds. It helps in weight loss and therefore I bought out the market before it became illegal to sell. I find that caffiene has a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma New Vedic

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Sutphen
They woke me up. -Peter --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I must have been doing the wrong sutras--most of the time they just put me to sleep. I have a friend who goes to the the dome mainly because she says it's still a great place to sleep--she stays awake half the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Ephedra

2005-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2005, at 9:44 PM, m2smart4u2000 wrote: Ephedra is the Mua hang plant used in Chinese medicene. It basically counter acts Kapha and is excellent for people with breathing disorders ie mucus and colds. It helps in weight loss and therefore I bought out the market before it became

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finances

2005-03-14 Thread Donald Sosin
Seems to me I remember hearing that if the Master says to sweep the hut out, then you sweep it out. And when that's done, if he says sweep it out again, you do it. If he's the Master, you just do it and don't make a deal of it. If he's not YOUR Master, then why are you involved in a

[FairfieldLife] One last post.

2005-03-14 Thread off_world_beings
This is my best post EVER ! Worth reading all the way! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped his philosophy and love for all of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Amma's former swami speaks

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Amma's former swami speaks I have no facts to counter these claims. My only comment is that every announcement Ive ever heard about the hospital mentioned that a percentage of the patients received free or subsidized coverage. I never heard it announced or implied

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra

2005-03-14 Thread mark robert
From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:10 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation? Euphedra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, you are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/05 3:03 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any guru who prefaces public statements with my children... loses me pretty quickly. Karunamayi uses the phrase My babies. I don't have any deep knowledge of Amma's gig, but the very distant view I have is of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/13/05 4:13 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also question the ethics of any of the various gurus who have set up outposts (or inposts) in Fairfield. If they truly respected Maharishi, I think they would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/05 4:52 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote Question to you LB: If I went to the Dalai Lama's ashram , or to some Tibetan monestary, or to a Hindu Temple complex, and started getting wayward followers into my own personal 'movement', how would you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/13/05 5:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second thing: In Rishikesh you find, more often than not, ashrams located side-by-side and in groups. In most of them, no one gets upset if the sannyasis take a few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/13/05 5:00 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By putting FFL out of business, I plainly meant that competitive forces have the potential to solve a great many problems that this group expends tremendous energy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/13/05 6:17 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, great, and I stand corrected. Various posts to FFL have led me to believe that Amma, for instance, makes periodic visits to Mount Pleasant This summer (July 3

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/13/05 6:40 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be funny if all TM'rs left Fairfield suddenly. Fairfield would be a deadzone nowhere place. Even many non-meditators would leave eventually. All that would be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/05 3:03 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any guru who prefaces public statements with my children... loses me pretty quickly. Karunamayi uses the phrase My babies. Yuck. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/05 6:17 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, great, and I stand corrected. Various posts to FFL have led me to believe that Amma, for instance, makes periodic visits to Mount

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/05 6:40 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be funny if all TM'rs left Fairfield suddenly. Fairfield would be a deadzone nowhere place. Even many non-meditators would leave

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/14/05 10:54 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karunamayi uses the phrase My babies. Yuck. Some find it endearing. I posted that story. I heard it anecdotally. The saints referred to were Maharishi and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/14/05 11:03 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the acid test is whether anyone moves into the community to be a part of the GSC who has no connection or interest in Maharishi World. I don't know. Does

[FairfieldLife] Re: One last post.

2005-03-14 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my best post EVER ! Worth reading all the way! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic

[FairfieldLife] More comments from the Amma chat list

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: More comments from the Amma chat list It wouldn't surprise me if some of Amma's more rabidly Hindutva followers have engaged in harsh wars of words with her critics -- you know, fighting the good fight against the forces of darkness, Arjuna-style -- but whether Amma or even her senior

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/14/05 10:54 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karunamayi uses the phrase My babies. Yuck. Some find it endearing. double yuck I posted that story. I heard it anecdotally.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
There is also a longstanding tradition that cannabis sativa is the soma plant. No firm opinion here.L B S---Nah, never heard that and I've spent years at the Shroomery, Bluelight, Nanooks, and so on you get the idea. The plant most often thought of as soma is the beautiful amanita. Of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts on 3/14/05 11:37 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The don't, of course. It's just that I get the idea that at least RS offers up words of respect. Of course, he hasn't set up a Fairfield ashram nor visited the

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Tuesday - See the Truth

2005-03-14 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: DailyPage_10 March 15, 2005 - See the Truth The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the obviously not true. it is the chief occupation of mankind. H. L.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
Don't make me hiccough. - Original Message - From: lupidus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend) I've seen enough.And; Guru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Quote to Wake Up To

2005-03-14 Thread rudra_joe
Love it, saw Shakti Kundalini right after I was initiated into TM. She was a black three and a half coiled snake, and she had been sleeping but then she raised her head and hissed and a stream of white smoke came out, and she fell away and I floated off in my mind which then filled up and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts

2005-03-14 Thread gullible fool
I don't have any deep knowledge of Amma's gig, but the very distant view I have is of a pretentious attitude toward those who approach her. As I recall, for instance, someone here quoted her as having commented on Maharishi and Muktananda that she created them. Whoa. I posted