[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: Do you think a true Rishi would bother about people jumping ships.?? All he has to do is to teach people TM and TM itself would do the rest. Why should a true Rishi try to flatter Goofs.?? Why should he associate himself with Goofs.?? A man is known by the company he keeps.?? ** Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light Here is the text with a correction to the link: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards As Maharishi notes in a pamphlet from the 60s titled The Divine Plan (reprinted in Meditations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi), only a gradual approach to enlightening the world can be successful when people live at such a low level of life: When the objectivity [man's material life] overtakes subjectivity ... completely then the only way left for the subjectivity is that it should gradually rise up in such a way that its regeneration does not in any way tend to overthrow the validity of material life. On the other hand, the manner of spiritual regeneration should be such that instead of creating fear and havoc to material life, the growing spiritual values should supplement and reinforce the values of material existence. This is the working policy of the Divine Plan. The Spiritual Regeneration Movement is carrying this out.
[FairfieldLife] An idol of the Jokela school killer
Fisherman P. Linkola was obviously one of the idols of the Jokela (~ yaw-keh-lah) school killer: http://www.iltalehti.fi/nettitv/?27937534
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama
In a message dated 11/8/07 8:46:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: his first move would be to call in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years.) He didn't have any specifics or ideas as to where he would start? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama
In a message dated 11/8/07 9:32:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't believe that you forgot to ask him my questions about whether he has ever had a hot tub party with an ebony and ivory theme with the Kucinish's, and if so, did he get a chance to see Dennis's wife naked like if she was changing into her bathing suit and accidentally left the door open just enough that he could walk by and lock eyes with her like a feral cat. But the repairing the constitution thing was good too I Now that's a good one! Somebody could ask if likes a little *white tail* on the side. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I did that but I still can only read posts by topic, and not sequentially. A real bummer. I want my old way. Perhaps it will straighten itself out. I think I see what's going on. Go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages At the top of the list, there are identifiers for each column. The first one is Topics, and I would wager you accidentally clicked on Group by Topic. If that's what you did, then next to Topics you'll have a clickable link labeled List as Individual Messages. Click that, and the individual messages will be listed sequentially. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I have no problem with it. Go to Home Page, scroll down, and click on the calander for Nov 2007 at far right (about 805+ posts showing at this point) that should take you to the sequential list. For Rick: OffWorld's 22nd post this week. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic). Suddenly I can't do that. I would read the posts by visiting the FFL Home Page, (not via e-mail). I can't seem to get back to that sequential mode. Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my familiar mode? Thank You. Your Friend Lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Lurk: Something seems to trigger this in Bob periodically. I think when something absurd like the Raja coronation comes up, Bob lapses into this theory. The way to understand it, I think, is to visualize Bob with tears in his eyes, heartbroken that this is what has become of the TMO, which, deep down, he still loves. This is the lament of a heartbroken follower. HH: I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality.This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth.
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul
Great idea offworld. I need an excuse to visit friends in FF since I was denied admission to the Invincible America course last year. Finally a candidate who really has some consciousness and cares about more than himself. The only other viable candidate would be Obama. Otherwise they are more of the same. A pack of wolves. steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I am you, you are me. We're one happy fa-mi-ly. With a great big hug and kiss from me to you, won't you say you love me too. (Barney Song) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The indescribable externalizing into love-radiance-ecstacy *is* how it generally looks now. That is not to say I have not been working on other ego-issues, as I've also mentioned in another recent post. As far as I can tell, the work never ends :-) And I have been describing the understanding of the unconditioned I with the simultaneity of spacetime as my projected bodymind -- of the necessary balance in bind-identifying with none while upholding all -- as clearly as I can. I apologize if it sounds smarmy or naive or sentimentally Barneyesque to you; that's certainly not the predominating flavor on this end :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep down inside .....was/Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts
OffWorld, that's a very impressive clip and well done, thanks. What film is it from? Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: OffWorld wrote: Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day), and the one I look forward to the most, BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, at http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270 translation from Barbarian: Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and waste words on dissing higher teachings. Soon you will understand something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736NKsK86Uk OffWorld .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth. This has always beens Bob's hypothesis to explain the whacky-factor in MMY and the TMO. At first I had your reaction, but over the years I've become more and more open to this hypothesis. I mean, why not? It certainly resolves many questions and it lets you feel otay about the big Mahesh. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth. This has always beens Bob's hypothesis to explain the whacky-factor in MMY and the TMO. At first I had your reaction, but over the years I've become more and more open to this hypothesis. I mean, why not? It certainly resolves many questions and it lets you feel otay about the big Mahesh. It's a nice idea and I can see where Bob gets it from but I prefer Lurkers viewpoint, but OK lets pretend Bob is right. Now imagine a delegation of top business men, people like Bill Gates, Richard Branson etc, visit TM headquarters and offer to help spread the word. What does MMY say? I only employ idiots? No I didn't think so either. I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Obama
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama In a message dated 11/8/07 8:46:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: his first move would be to call in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years.) He didn't have any specifics or ideas as to where he would start? He only had a few minutes to field questions and there were lots of them. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:16 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today MMY did not begin his work halfway thru the Sat Yuga, when folks are smart and friendly, but in the Kali Yuga, when people are weak and stupid in every way. If MMY has to flatter goofs to keep them from jumping ship, then that's the way it's got to be. But, really, all people are made in the image of God, so if you want to salute the godliness in them, that's ultimately true anyway. Also, MMY is making it clear that administration from the level of the consitution of the universe is not really administration at all: 'When there was lot of administration, there was a lot of controversy to be reconciled here and there and there so far. So for the assembly of mankind there was administration needed, but now today that administration will be just a name, and a name may show some shadow of it. But in reality the world is going to be administered on its own which is the ultimate level of, for want of a word we say, Being, Being, Being, Being.' http://www.globalgo odnews.com/ world-peace- a.html?art= 1193940660953239 It's such a joy to read your tiredless exposition of knowledge Bob ! Again and again you remind people of what they do not want to hear, which is precisely what they need ofcourse. But few of the posters here have a clue of what you so brilliantly state, instead they rant on and on, year after year exposing their ignorance, about how shallow the TMO is. Let's at least hope that some lurkers read and understand your posts. Well done Bob Brigante !
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama
My second try at posting. Don't know if it's delayed or what. Just HAVE to say I thought you asked a great question but that his answer was lame. Wait till the election?? He does not seem to comprehend the gravity of the situation and this makes him look weak when he says he will stand up to special interests. brian --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama In a message dated 11/8/07 8:46:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: his first move would be to call in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years.) He didn't have any specifics or ideas as to where he would start? He only had a few minutes to field questions and there were lots of them. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul is CONFIRMED for the Iowa Dec 4th DEBATE!
HYPERLINK http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=34284http://www.ronpaulforum s.com/showthread.php?t=34284 Ron Paul is CONFIRMED for the Iowa Dec 4th DEBATE! I'm sorry if this is repeat info, I just received this email: 1-08-07 6:39pm ET There has been much talk about Ron Paul being excluded from the December 4th Fox News debate and there is still a good number of e-mails going around about this. I believe this all got started from the Iowa Politics (HYPERLINK http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=109854http://www.iowapolitic s.com/index.iml?Article=109854) last paragraph about the 5% polling thing. The debate will be limited to those candidates who have satisfied the following criteria: 1. Announced a formal campaign for President: and 2. Filed the necessary paperwork with the Federal Election Commission; and 3. Met all U.S. constitutional requirements; and 4. Garnered at least 5% of the national electorate as determined by an average of the most recent national telephone polls of registered voters conducted by non-partisan public opinion polling organizations leading up to the registration deadline as determined by Fox News Channel and the Republican Party of Iowa or garnered an average of at least 5% in the most recent polls of Iowa voters conducted by the American Research Group and the Des Moines Register. However, Ron Paul WILL be at the December 4th Iowa debate. Iowa GOP and Ron Paul Campaign Headquarters: Ron Paul is not out of the debate By Kat | November 8, 2007 LB interviewed the Iowa GOP and Iowa Ron Paul 2008 campaign headquarters. In a live interview on the Soapbox Spectacle, John Zambanini made clear there is no attempt to prevent Dr. Paul from participating in the December 4th debates. Polling of Iowa voters by American Research Group and the Des Moines Register indicated the 5% threshold has been reached. Mr. Zambanini stated that “the campaign would like to remain on friendly terms with the state GOP and any effort to call them in response to claims of Dr. Paul being excluded should be avoided.” Please do not call the Iowa GOP. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev - How can the Omnipotent see his own devotees sorrowful?
The years when we lived in the inaccessible jungles we experienced the omniscience and omnipotence of Bhagavan. Wherever there were no arrangements for worldly needs, there necessary arrangement was made on time for devotees of Bhagavan. A prince cannot experience lack of anything in his own kingdom. The devotees in the three worlds (heaven, earth and lower region) of the All Capable Bhagavan will live with aananda (bliss). Well, how can the Omnipotent see his own devotees sorrowful? One's own endless reverence, devotion and faith are the way to return to Bhagavan. It is [only] necessary to gain the grace of Bhagavan once. Afterwards then Bhagavan sees and investigates all himself, it is not necessary to make a request of them. When the son is unwell then it is not necessary for him to pray to his father for a remedy. The father cannot see his own son unwell. Without being asked he makes an effort to remove the disease. In this way, the one who comes to Bhagavan, who one time has taken pity, does everything for them without being asked. Honestly, this is experienced that detovees of Bhagavan can never be unhappy. [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 45 of 108] translation - Paul Mason © 2007 http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#kaNa45
[FairfieldLife] The Paderewski Story -- retold
I love this story that's been told so many ways, but I had to try to word it myself. Enjoy. Edg A wonderful tale, this story that, sure enough, might be true, is told about the great pianist Paderewski. A mother, wishing to inspire her young son, took him to a concert of the maestro. Getting there early, the mother took her seat with her son. Seeing someone she knew, she told her son, I'll be right over there. She got up and went over to her friend and looked over to her son from time to time, but as these things go, sure enough, the boy's natural curiosity prompted him to explore the great concert hall. His mother, seeing that he was staying within sight, allowed it. The boy chanced to see a curtained doorway that was the entrance to backstage, and, sure enough, slipped through them. As exciting as all the new sights were back there, nothing captured him as much as the nine foot long, shining with an almost holy luster, grand piano. Sure enough, he went over to it immediately and sat down. Just then, the curtains parted in preparation for the evening to begin. The sight of the small boy sitting there quieted the crowd. The mother, just arriving back at her seat, was also at a lack for words and wondering how she could get her son off of the stage with the minimum of embarrassment. But, sure enough, the boy just then began to play Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star, and being entirely concentrated on the song, was certain to miss his mother's waving and pointing for him to get off the stage. Just as she had decided to speak aloud, sure enough, out came Paderewski onto the stage approaching the piano, redoubling the mother's quandary. Holding a finger up to the audience, he signaled everyone to wait a moment and see what might come of this. Quickly moving to the piano, he whispered into the youngster's ear, Don't quit. Keep playing, and reached around the boy with his left hand and begin to fill in a bass part to the song. Soon, sure enough, his other arm came to the keyboard and also began to play while thus enfolding the child in his arms. A situation that might otherwise have been a cause of not an insignificant incident, had become a precious human moment as the master improvised a wonderful accompaniment to everyone's, including the child's, delight. The entire house was hypnotized with love. They say that after that night, many a person went home with the evening imprinted deeply in their hearts, and this would echo for the rest of their lives in ways that continued to surprise them. Perhaps the best of these echoes was heard the following Sunday, when a minister told his congregation about the incident. He concluded, This is the power of our lives. We do our best, even though it may be seen as lacking merit or not up to the expectations of others who view us, but God is there, and His arms and hands are all around us, attuning to our attempts and making with them a music that touches even Him. And so must we all, especially when we have doubts about our performance in this world, remember to Don't quit, and keep playing with simple innocence, and see what wonders comes of it. Remember, He enfolds all that you do within His bosom, and, this pleases Him. Sure enough. Sure enough. Ask yourself, How does the feeling I get when I read this story come to me? How do I ring to its truth so deeply? What is so certain in me about existence that I know that this feeling is valid? Is this true for me? With all the mistakes I've made as a child and as a childish adult, can it be that Another's vision sees a greater tableau than I? Can I believe this so deeply that all of my daily life is twinkling? What would such a deep conviction on my part do to my life? How would I be transformed? How would those around me be affected by it? When I consider my interconnectedness to my environment, can I NOT think that I am part of a greater symphony? Given all the laws of nature that scientists constantly find at work within us and around us, laws that are deeply inviolate, how could I feel otherwise? Am I, sure enough, part of an unfolding wonder? Given the majesty of its starry nights, the dearness of the smiles of its infants, the relationship of all to itself, could the universe be anything less than miraculous ecstasy? Am I precious? Sure enough. Sure enough.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Humor List
I have an email list (not a chat group) to which I send things that I find funny, interesting, etc. Usually several things a day. Sometimes attachments as large as 5mb. If you’d like to join, send a blank email to HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Curtis, I saw Peggy in June of '06 at a gallery opening in Venice Beach (Toc Fetch and Tricia Cline at Obsolete). She looked good, lots of energy and enthusiasm, and we talked for some time catching up but I don't remember many particulars. If I remember correctly, she lives in SoCal and is involved in some spiritual work but I don't recall exactly what it is. It's been some time since she lived in Hawaii. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. She became a motivational speaker: http://www.yopeggy.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Thanks Marek. Funny how many intersections of people through our lives we have in common. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, I saw Peggy in June of '06 at a gallery opening in Venice Beach (Toc Fetch and Tricia Cline at Obsolete). She looked good, lots of energy and enthusiasm, and we talked for some time catching up but I don't remember many particulars. If I remember correctly, she lives in SoCal and is involved in some spiritual work but I don't recall exactly what it is. It's been some time since she lived in Hawaii. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
What an excellent match for her skills! Thanks Rick her site looks great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. She became a motivational speaker: http://www.yopeggy.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What an excellent match for her skills! Thanks Rick her site looks great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. She became a motivational speaker: http://www.yopeggy.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Shame. Shame. Shame.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Perhaps you underestimate the integrity of the ordinary man, most of us see beyond physical appearance and judge people on what they are like inside, it doesn't say much for you enlightened types if you're hung up on irrelevances. Have a look at the video clip Curtis posted and tell me you would walk away, I think it would be your loss if you did.
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul is CONFIRMED for the Iowa Dec 4th DEBATE!THANKS Rick
My thanks for this news of whom I support financially as well as verbally (Ron Paul) I am more strict constructionalist as well, Re: I am the United States Federal Constitution. I also liked the former Natural Law Party was an elector twice for that party's ticket in NY State NLP 1 St later the ( independence party it was know as here, NY State, last federal election). The NLP's constution was understood I believe in silence I have not mastered that silence nor the present U.S. Federal constution. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R: IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom :-) nablusoss1008 wrote: If this world is hell I will agree... ;-) R: What do *you* mean by this world? (I am speaking of all the worlds present in our bodymind, here and now.) There is no escaping the facing of one's demons if one is to gain freedom, as far as I can see :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Shame. Shame. Shame. Hehe
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--Well done, Rory...so what's the next step? - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I am you, you are me. We're one happy fa-mi-ly. With a great big hug and kiss from me to you, won't you say you love me too. (Barney Song) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: The indescribable externalizing into love-radiance-ecstacy *is* how it generally looks now. That is not to say I have not been working on other ego-issues, as I've also mentioned in another recent post. As far as I can tell, the work never ends :-) And I have been describing the understanding of the unconditioned I with the simultaneity of spacetime as my projected bodymind -- of the necessary balance in bind-identifying with none while upholding all -- as clearly as I can. I apologize if it sounds smarmy or naive or sentimentally Barneyesque to you; that's certainly not the predominating flavor on this end :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:41 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-) Don’t know about that, but King Janaka had no qualms about being instructed by a dwarf: “Ashtavakra grew into a spiritually advanced rishi and realised Atman. He went to HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MithilaMithila and instructed King HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JanakaJanaka about the concept of Atman. These teachings form the content of the HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra_GitaAshtavakra Gita or HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra_SamhitaAshtavakra Samhita as it is sometimes called.” (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth. This has always beens Bob's hypothesis to explain the whacky-factor in MMY and the TMO. At first I had your reaction, but over the years I've become more and more open to this hypothesis. I mean, why not? It certainly resolves many questions and it lets you feel otay about the big Mahesh. It's a nice idea and I can see where Bob gets it from but I prefer Lurkers viewpoint, but OK lets pretend Bob is right. Now imagine a delegation of top business men, people like Bill Gates, Richard Branson etc, visit TM headquarters and offer to help spread the word. What does MMY say? I only employ idiots? No I didn't think so either. I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. I'm no at all certain that M would really want Speilberg or Cameron. It would almost certainly mean giving up total control. Look at all the twists and turns Lynch had to go through with his Foundation to have some control over the resources that he raised. A foundation to help raise an out-of-line TM fee - how silly is that JohnY
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. Peggy is such a fantastic ambassador for this kind of acceptance because other than her size she has always been a beautiful charming person. You would have to be such an ass not to feel respect for her intelligence and open heart in her presence. Going to classes day after day with her eventually changed how I much I noticed her size. After a while I guess our brains get bored noticing something that means so little. I remember seeing someone put their hand on her head like you might a child. She let them have it very firmly. It was a lesson for me that I never forgot. (I wont even touch kids this way because I really get it!) We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. Good ol' Peggy stirred up all this from just thinking about her again!
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Using the same shallow, idiotic, boneheaded thinking, one could just as easily ask: Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dot-head nigger wrapped in a sheet?
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-) Bigotry is alive and well among the elitist pricks in the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Curtis, thanks for articulating this (below). And particularly the point that at no time in the past has any culture or civilization (that we/I know of) embraced compassion as a fundamental rule of conduct and policy. I love the idea of a golden age, but if it exists anywhere it's not in the past but in our earnestness to make it present in what each of us as individuals do and say right now. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. Peggy is such a fantastic ambassador for this kind of acceptance because other than her size she has always been a beautiful charming person. You would have to be such an ass not to feel respect for her intelligence and open heart in her presence. Going to classes day after day with her eventually changed how I much I noticed her size. After a while I guess our brains get bored noticing something that means so little. I remember seeing someone put their hand on her head like you might a child. She let them have it very firmly. It was a lesson for me that I never forgot. (I wont even touch kids this way because I really get it!) We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. Good ol' Peggy stirred up all this from just thinking about her again!
[FairfieldLife] Favorite Music / Musicians
Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. Picking up from this recommendation by Curtis, I’d like to hear people’s recommendations on musicians and music. I listen to a lot of music while I work, mostly through HYPERLINK http://pandora.comhttp://pandora.com, which lets you set up “stations” related to different musicians or genres, then plays related music. As you listen, you can tell it whether you particularly like or dislike a song, and it “learns” your preferences and plays more appropriate music. Some of my suggestions would, in the bluegrass genre, include Nickel Creek, Tony Rice, Jerry Douglas, Alison Krauss Union Station Others, not sure how you’d define the genre: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Lucy Kaplansky, Kings of Convenience, Harry Manx Many others, but I’ve got to get back to work. Once you’re signed up with Pandora, you can “share” your stations and others can subscribe to them. I’ll be happy to share mine with anyone interested. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-) Not to mention if He once again decided to reincarnate as a boar... He'd end up on your plate perhaps.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul
Where does Ron Paul stand on big business, privatization, etc? Last thing we need privatization of things like water and having a company like Comcast or ATT or Microsoft in control of your supply of water. off_world_beings wrote: (there is a debate and congressional hearings going on about wether I have one or two more posts or notso...screw it...here goes) Fox News and the Republican Party of Iowa are refusing to allow Ron Paul to join the Iowa debate in early december. In that case, we will organize a million person march on Iowa on that date. People doubted Ron Paul could raise a million dollars, never mind the 7.5 million he has raised in 6 weeks (4 million online on Nov.5), so if he aims to have a large crowd in Iowa that day, perhaps he could get something phenomenal. Wild horses could not drag me away back to Iowa at this point, but if they lock him out...I, and thousands of others, will be there on that day. OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama
Sal Sunshine wrote: On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Barack Obama spoke for an hour in FF this morning. I found him very inspiring. I got a chance to ask a question: what he thought of Dennis Kucinich’s House resolution to impeach Cheney, and if he didn’t approve of that approach, what he would do to repair the constitutional erosion that had occurred under Bush/Cheney. He answered that he didn’t favor impeachment because it would cause too much congressional paralysis and stir up too much bitterness, but that if he became president, his first move would be to call in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years.) That was you who asked that, Rick? I could hear the question but couldn't see who was asking. Good question--I have to admit I wasn't thrilled with the answer, seems like an excuse for inertia. And with 14 more months left to go, and nothing left to lose, there's still time for more damage. Loved the meeting, and the general feeling in the room, though. And found the rest of his talk inspiring as well. Sal Yes that's a lame excuse from Obama. My congressman George Miller gives the same lame excuse or stonewall on impeachment. He may lose his seat as a result. I thought it was funny that the Republicans embarrassed the Democrat cowards on Kucinich's Cheney impeachment bill. The 2004 vote was on two things: end the war and impeach the Bush crime family. The Democrats have been traitors to their constituents and will learn that they'll lose their seats because they didn't follow what their constituents wanted. Feinstein definitely needs to be replaced as she votes against her constituency. The only two Democratic candidates that would get my vote is Edwards and Kucinich. The rest of the front runners are establishment shills. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra and Mike Myers on Sundance Channel
Bhairitu wrote: Just a reminder that Deepak Chopra and Mike Myers will be on Iconoclasts tomorrow evening Thursday the 8th at 10 PM on the Sundance Channel. http://www.sundancechannel.com/iconoclasts#/episode/210248251 That should be an interesting pair. I should have mentioned you can watch part or all of it online and if you have a subscription that includes Sundance it will be repeated over the week or coming weeks. And if you have Universal HD it may show up there eventually in better quality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. Peggy is such a fantastic ambassador for this kind of acceptance because other than her size she has always been a beautiful charming person. You would have to be such an ass not to feel respect for her intelligence and open heart in her presence. Going to classes day after day with her eventually changed how I much I noticed her size. After a while I guess our brains get bored noticing something that means so little. I remember seeing someone put their hand on her head like you might a child. She let them have it very firmly. It was a lesson for me that I never forgot. (I wont even touch kids this way because I really get it!) We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. Good ol' Peggy stirred up all this from just thinking about her again! You shine a clear light on things Curtis. Very interesting post. I always forgive the past for having different values, I guess this annoys me because it's a willful acceptance of something out of date that I abhor. The whole idea of evolution is that we move forwards.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul
He's for trusting in the Free Market system advocated by the Austrian School of Economics. But as far as State owned functions that is up to each state, but NOT dictacted by Washington. It's really about empowering local and state government and removing controls from Washington. But he emphasizes as President he has a lot to say as Commander in Chief (he'd bring all the troops home from overseas), but does not want to be Commander in Chief of the people - he's for much less control from Washington and letting States decide on the really tough and really important issues to them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Ron Paul stand on big business, privatization, etc? Last thing we need privatization of things like water and having a company like Comcast or ATT or Microsoft in control of your supply of water. off_world_beings wrote: (there is a debate and congressional hearings going on about wether I have one or two more posts or notso...screw it...here goes) Fox News and the Republican Party of Iowa are refusing to allow Ron Paul to join the Iowa debate in early december. In that case, we will organize a million person march on Iowa on that date. People doubted Ron Paul could raise a million dollars, never mind the 7.5 million he has raised in 6 weeks (4 million online on Nov.5), so if he aims to have a large crowd in Iowa that day, perhaps he could get something phenomenal. Wild horses could not drag me away back to Iowa at this point, but if they lock him out...I, and thousands of others, will be there on that day. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Paul on Impeachment, Obama on Paul
I was sitting in front of Rick yesterday listening to Obama - great question Rick on Cheney impeachment. Rick asked me where Ron Paul was on this. So I went to find out, below. Also there's a story out today on the Obama Fairfield meeting at http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/sprengelmeyer/archives/2007/11/ obama_on_paul_a_diplomatic_dod.html Title; Obama on Paul: a diplomatic dodge. We're making waves in more ways than one here in Fairfield! Brian That Vote Posted by Lew Rockwell at 02:28 PM Why, Michael Nelson wants to know, did Ron Paul vote to table the Kucinich motion? Says a friend in the know: Because it is improper for the House to consider something as important as impeachment without having had hearings and without a report from a committee or an independent counsel. It was appropriately done this way with Nixon and Clinton. If you look at the vote, you will notice the majority of war-mongering Republicans voted with Kuncinich as a cheap stunt to embarrass the Democrats and the anti-war movement by rushing an impeachment resolution to a vote with only an hour's debate.
[FairfieldLife] The Monkeysphere
http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Intresting point Sri Brigante. But using Goofs to lead the world is like the ' blind leading the blind.' bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:33:40 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com# light __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
You mean like the way he takes allopathic medical treatment from specialist allopathic Doctors from London.?? What has he done really.?? kick the shit of the industrial civilisation with his team of Goof balls.?? The industrial civilisation is almost over.!! Whom are you trying to fool here Bimbo.?? You or me.?? jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:03:09 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today That's one way of looking at it-- my take is that he's too busy kicking the ever loving sh*t out of industrial civilization to bother with it much. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Spoken like a true Visionary CurtisDelta. During the pre-civilisation days, tribes that lived on the well travelled trails were friendly as they were used to strangers. Unfortunately, tribes that lived in isolation inevitably killed and ate strangers who happened to come across them. Fear of contracting new diseases could be one factor but Caniballism persisted only in remote isolated tribes. Evolution runs on mutations. There are three catagories on mutations. Positive, Neutral and Negative. In raw Nature the Negative ones are quickly weeded out. Neutral mutations confer no real survival advantages and slowly die out. Positive mutations confer huge survival advantage and such individual tends to leave more offsprings and consequently within a few generation that mutation becomes a dominant trait among the whole population. Vedic culture like all First-Wave cultures has it's own dogmas. This is why I maintain that Maharishi does not seem to have a clear understanding of how our civilisation evolved and that is something which certain ' Hardcore True Blue Believers ' in this forum don't understand. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:10:25 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama
Bhairitu wrote: The only two Democratic candidates that would get my vote is Edwards and Kucinich. The rest of the front runners are establishment shills. The Democratic Congress is more interested in acting out than in taking positive action. Read more: The Democratic victory in 2006 was narrow. They won the House by 85,961 votes out of over 80 million cast and the Senate by a mere 3,562 out of over 62 million cast. A party that wins control by that narrow margin can quickly see its fortunes reversed when it fails to act responsibly, fails to fulfill its promises, and fails to lead. 'A Failure to Lead' By Karl Rove Opinion Journal, Friday, November 9, 2007 http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010843
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
A great man said, A Civilisation is known by how it treats it's weakest member. These factors should not impede an intellectual civilisation. Such a civilisation would know how to handle these problems in a Civilised and Scientific way. Remember the story of Buddha. A beautiful woman wanted to be his disciple. Buddha told her that when she becomes sick, diseased and loses all her beauty he will come and show her compassion and also the path to Enlightment. I think Barry would tell the story more accurately. What would you have done, had you been in Maharishi's shoes.?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:57:06 -0600 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
---This is sounding more like Herr Himmler!: He then mercilessly hunted down the family, even to distant relatives and had them executed or shipped to concentration camps. Similarly, the disabled or mentally ill were killed or sterilised so as not to pass on their bad blood, and Germans who had intercourse with slave workers, Jews or other inferiors were harshly punished. On the other hand, the elite SS were rewarded for having children, and had special brothels - the children of which were supported by the state In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great man said, A Civilisation is known by how it treats it's weakest member. These factors should not impede an intellectual civilisation. Such a civilisation would know how to handle these problems in a Civilised and Scientific way. Remember the story of Buddha. A beautiful woman wanted to be his disciple. Buddha told her that when she becomes sick, diseased and loses all her beauty he will come and show her compassion and also the path to Enlightment. I think Barry would tell the story more accurately. What would you have done, had you been in Maharishi's shoes.?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:57:06 -0600 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] For the Love of Lucinda, was Favorite Music / Musicians
Thanks for asking, yeah it's true, I'm in love with Lucinda. Lucinda Williams is my latest musical flame. Here's my latest playlist for Lucinda, if you don't fall in love with her after lissenin' to these perfections, get on a fast plane to NOLA and get your mojo fixed. Please. Overtime3:59Lucinda WilliamsWorld Without Tears Righteously 4:38Lucinda WilliamsWorld Without Tears Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 4:45 Lucinda Williams Car Wheels on a Gravel Road Fruits of My Labor 4:48Lucinda WilliamsWorld Without Tears Can't Let Go3:29Lucinda WilliamsCar Wheels on a Gravel Road I Lost It 3:31Lucinda WilliamsCar Wheels on a Gravel Road Sweet Old World 4:04Lucinda WilliamsSweet Old World Those Three Days5:00Lucinda WilliamsWorld Without Tears Sweet Side 3:36Lucinda WilliamsWorld Without Tears Are You Alright?5:18Lucinda WilliamsWest (Bonus Track Version) Right in Time 4:36Lucinda WilliamsCar Wheels on a Gravel Road Change the Locks4:08Lucinda WilliamsLive at the Fillmore Drunken Angel 3:20Lucinda WilliamsCar Wheels on a Gravel Road West5:44Lucinda WilliamsWest (Bonus Track Version) The tempo on Overtime and Fruits of My Labor just relax me in a few bars. It's an infectious kick-back that she just gets. Sweet Old World -- a beautiful song of the beauties we all know and share -- is also the most beautiful suicide note I'd ever heard. I Lost It is my current favorite Lucinda rocker. It makes one wonder why some rock-country crossover isn't blastin' this goddess from the rooftops. I see a wide appeal in my Lucinda, everyone likes her, wherever I take her. Like a lotta Lucinda, I could imagine hearin' this in the most redneck bar or the finest of venues or a diner with a view. Are You Alright? Ever been in a relationship that ended abruptly? If the answer is yes, it'll hit your heart on the first listen. Later: The Gnostic Van from the greatest white bluesman I know, newer music from British Pub rocker-turned-American Graham Parker, the guitar and music of David Wilcox. Sorry, I couldn't just answer this question in one single post.
RE: [FairfieldLife] For the Love of Lucinda, was Favorite Music / Musicians
Yeah, she’s great. I consider Lucy Kaplansky and Dar Williams to be in the same genre. Check them out on HYPERLINK http://searchsummit.com/songs/songs-sent.htmlhttp://searchsummit.com/songs /songs-sent.html, which I’ve posted before but haven’t updated in a long time. Just a random assortment of favorites. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann? PS Sal, I borrowed one of your posts for this and my previous comment. You always have about 30 of 'em lying around anyway unused each week, and so I appreciate in advance your spirit of generosity. In fact, I'll make a deal with you; you continue to remind me when I've reached my exact limit of posts-- I'm cool with that-- and I'll use a few of your perennially unused posts if need be. OK? I'll just assume it is. Thanks! No Jim. Not OK. By that logic, there would be no posting limits. Many people post only a few a week. Should those who want to ignore the posting limit borrow theirs, with their tacit permission? I hereby decree: No borrowing, lending, selling, or otherwise transferring unused posts. No problem- on the other hand, using this guideline to dump on me as Sal enjoys doing is inappropriate. When she does it, she can expect a reply from me. As others have said, the original guideline was put in place to curb flagrant over posters. I am not in that category, and have not been. If I go over a few, it isn't a big deal. I try to track the number of my posts and will continue to do so. We all recognize the Advanced Search function doesn't work.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2007, at 7:18 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: PS Sal, I borrowed one of your posts for this and my previous comment. You always have about 30 of 'em lying around anyway unused each week, and so I appreciate in advance your spirit of generosity. In fact, I'll make a deal with you; you continue to remind me when I've reached my exact limit of posts-- I'm cool with that-- and I'll use a few of your perennially unused posts if need be. OK? I'll just assume it is. No, Jim, it's not, you don't have my permission, you're just stealing. And since it's not the end of the week, you don't know if I'm going to use them or not, making it unethical as well. Why am I not surprised? You are not surprised because you have already formed a negative opinion of me. Has nothing to do with me, though. I wouldn't even bother with this if you hadn't made it clear that you couldn't be bothered with counting, and basically asked someone else to do it. So I obliged. Please quote when I said this back to me. You are making this up. Why am I not surprised?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Well done, Rory...so what's the next step? Thank you, matrix, but it's not as if I really have anything to do with it! :-) At this moment, it appears to simply be more of the same -- healing and integrating (or dissolving), healing and integrating (or dissolving), becoming more and more less and less, if that makes any sense. No-i-tu Love = Evolution
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. snipped for brevity Fascinating, Curtis; many thanks. Yes, I actually didn't even know how deeply I was enmired in a subtle miasmic fear of *everyone* until I died/awoke and noticed for the first time its *absence*! Go figure! *lol*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- Thanks, can you see dead people? If so, what's the status of most of themsay, ordinary people. How long does it take them to get their bearings and realize there's Spiritual work to do, instead of spending their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer? Or, do they not realize there's a Spiritual life and spend their time planning for the next round of insanity? In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: --Well done, Rory...so what's the next step? Thank you, matrix, but it's not as if I really have anything to do with it! :-) At this moment, it appears to simply be more of the same -- healing and integrating (or dissolving), healing and integrating (or dissolving), becoming more and more less and less, if that makes any sense. No-i-tu Love = Evolution
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
On Nov 9, 2007, at 5:47 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: I wouldn't even bother with this if you hadn't made it clear that you couldn't be bothered with counting, and basically asked someone else to do it. So I obliged. Please quote when I said this back to me. You are making this up. Why am I not surprised? Baloney, Jim. You laughed and said you couldn't be bothered, or something to that effect, and then said if someone else wanted to count you would abide by that, or something to that effect as well. Look it up yourself, I'm not going to waste my time. And as far as dumping on you goes, here is my post which triggered your rather strong reaction: 35, Jim. Hasta la vista until Saturday. And then this, after you told me you were essentially going to rip off posts, sans permission: No, Jim, it's not, you don't have my permission, you're just stealing. And since it's not the end of the week, you don't know if I'm going to use them or not, making it unethical as well. Why am I not surprised? As others have said, the original guideline was put in place to curb flagrant over posters. Of which you have been one on at least several occasions, posting without end until someone calls you on it, like today. And giving the impression you would gladly do it every week because you're just that special. 41 for this week, Jim. Ciao. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ? Sure, a crashing boar even :-) Seriously, I'll take it wherever I can get it -- a rock, a drunk, a dog, an angel, a demon -- it's all the same, with different spins. And FWIW I am now far more an ordinary man on the street than I ever was before, though I have a good deal of specialness to dissolve yet, particularly in this medium :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
On Nov 9, 2007, at 5:47 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: I wouldn't even bother with this if you hadn't made it clear that you couldn't be bothered with counting, and basically asked someone else to do it. So I obliged. Please quote when I said this back to me. You are making this up. Why am I not surprised? Post where you made the request: FYI-- I just verified that the Yahoo advanced search isn't very accurate-- I hand-counted my posts from the beginning of Sept.8th until now and the total is 39, not including this one. However, if I use the Yahoo advanced search, I get a total of 34, not including this one. So hand counts seem to be the only way to be accurate, for those not receiving emails on FFL. Or whoever keeps tallies can please send an email to Rick. In any case, see you next week.:-) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Thanks, can you see dead people? It's pretty easy for most to do so, I think; all we have to do is let go (at least temporarily) of the belief in the limiting power of spacetime, and trust the subtle body-messages we get. May not be sight; may be any sense or knowing. I did a lot of work (well, a lot of work by *my* standards, which have always been pretty slack) with the dead shortly after waking/dying. At that time, I was also doing a lot of channeling of the Love/Bliss of my higher selves and on some subtle planes our apartment had a huge column of light standing in it, which seemed to attract quite a few confused souls from a number of different time periods. The work mostly consisted of giving them loving attention, telling them they were healed and forgiven, one with their Light, and showing them where the Light is. As they move into it there is often a palpable lightening of the atmosphere, an infusion of sparkle, like ginger-ale. I also used to communicate with them for the bereaved for some years afterwards. I can't say that work has presented itself to me much at all in the last decade or so. If so, what's the status of most of themsay, ordinary people. I can't really say I have never met an ordinary person, or an extraordinary one! (Plus, every person is actually a hierarchical group- mind of countless billions of selves, and every person is a particle of Us.) (And as they are all particles of Us, when we give them our attention, they are immediately bathed in that Light, and usually realize their innate and ecstatic non-existence as Us.) How long does it take them to get their bearings That really varies. Many are actually asleep for several days after death, and many more are in hospital for some time after that. Others go directly into the Light/Bliss/Love, or whatever mansion they most desire/need. Some go through *gut- wrenching, heart-breaking* remorse immediately after dying, sometimes for what seem to me to be relatively minor refractions. Others get swept up immediately into a giant angel. And so on... and realize there's Spiritual work to do, instead of spending their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer? That too can be and actually is spiritual work :-) Sometimes a lifetime or two off getting drunk is just what the doctor ordered! Or, do they not realize there's a Spiritual life and spend their time planning for the next round of insanity? No matter what their conscious attitudes, We are enjoying them, learning from them, growing from them, and so their lives are all equally spiritual to Us. If they wish to join Us in their appreciation of themselves, that's good too -- their choice! And again, from the simplest, truest POV I am aware of in this moment, we are actually only describing particles of the Us, here and now. Many thanks matrix --- fun questions! *L*L*L*
[FairfieldLife] The Gnostic Van ... was Favorite Music / Musicians
If you haven't listened to Van Morrison since the 60's or 70's and like most people are SO sick of hearing the same ole three Van songs played on the radio (Brown Eyed Girl, Gloria, Moondance, etc) over and over and over again, here's something you'll dig: The Gnostic Van I like to call it. It's music for everyone's -- anyone's -- spirit. If you've only heard the top 40 Van, you need to know this. Van is a modern bard and mystic cum boozehound who has a catalogue of great blues-folk-rock songwork, which if you're a meditator or a sage-in- training you'll very likely have a resonance with. I've shared this particular playlist with almost all of my friends and a number of acquaintances and it's been quite popular, some sharing it with others in a Van-chain reaction. :-). I always had it in the back of my head that I should listen to some old Van, when about 12 years ago I was asked to sit in with a local blues band to jam with. Their harmonica player re-introduced me to Van. Here's the best I can share so far: The list starts out with some classics from No Guru, No Method, No Teacher: 1: Got To Go Back No Guru, No Method, No Teacher If ya ever dug a good ole Ray Charles and just really grooved to it, you'd have to like this as well. A tribute and a new song, perfectly rendered for the mystics of our age born in 40-50-60 (and even) 70- ish. Well who knows, probably even now. 2: Oh The Warm Feeling No Guru, No Method Most would resonate with what he's describing in this song-poem. 3: Foreign Window 5:23Van MorrisonNo Guru, No Method, No Teacher A great anthem for any pilgrim, traveling wherever. 4: A Town Called Paradise 6:15 Van Morrison No Guru, No Method, No Teacher We've all, at one time, got in a car and just went somewhere -- anywhere -- that conveyed a sense of higher place, higher dimensions. IMO this song shares that sentiment and renders it as a universal paean. As universal, the imagery of traveling across earth and traveling across our own spiritual landscape, it's just something almost anyone can resonate with. 5: In The Garden5:47Van MorrisonNo Guru, No Method, No Teacher If you ever witnessed someone you knew, go through an awakening (doesn't really matter what kind), you'll dig this one. Yep, that garden, but all of our gardens. It's also the garden of no guru, no method, no teacherjust you and I, in nature My kinda garden. :-) 6: One Irish Rover 3:28Van MorrisonNo Guru, No Method, No Teacher [How they rove.] Tell me the story Now that it's over Wrappèd in glory For one Irish Rover Tell me You're wiser now Tell me you're older Wrapped in glory For one Irish Rover... I can tell By the light in your eyes So far away... 7: So Quiet In Here 6:17Van MorrisonEnlightenment If you live on a coast, some coast, somewhere sea-bound, you can dig this. It's a real presence in my life so I can groove on it, but I hope it resonates universal with all my friends, really. Even if you ever drove along some coast (whatever coast) it just might ring some good feeling-tone for you. 8: See Me Through 6:20Van MorrisonEnlightenment Deep love. 9: Youth Of 1,000 Summers 3:44Van MorrisonEnlightenment Ever read Joseph Campbell or were yuo ever a Youth that was lost in some 'eternal' summer? Yes, we all have our summers of the heart and our lives. 10: In The Days Before Rock 'n' Roll8:13Van MorrisonEnlightenment What a perfect capturing of this idea: a radio bringing in the birth of rock roll. I played this for my parents over dinner one night: I was surprised -- they actually got it. 11: Coney Island2:04Van MorrisonAvalon Sunset Not that Coney Island, but really any Coney Island... :-) 12: Fire In The Belly 6:34Van MorrisonThe Healing Game The spiritual and physical world, we bridge both, don't we? 13: When Will I Ever Learn to Live In God 5:39 Van Morrison Avalon Sunset Even with no god as god, one could appreciate this, because both are [still] about beliefs, no? 14: Piper At The Gates Of Dawn 3:53Van MorrisonThe Healing Game The Great God PAN. Y'all know if there was God named PAN and a that competing religion could try to make you afraid of that PAN, don't you? Well they did, and now PAN is a demon...but is he really? He he? Don't let the worshippers of the new gods fool you on the old ones. ...More as I have time...
[FairfieldLife] Are we missing a dimension of time?
What are the possibilities, of what constitutes the universe and our human potential to actualize ourselves into new thresholds of human excellence? You know much about the three dimensions because ... you are ens consed in the fourth dimension, and may have had glimpses or actualizations within the fifth dimension. What would happen of your subtler experiences could be readily accessible if standard practices were put to use making these subtler realms available at will and within ethical bounds for you and most anyone deserving of homo sapien? *Are we missing a dimension of time?* * * Roger Highfield Telegraph Media Group Limited October 10, 2007 *Could hypertime help develop a theory of everything? * *Roger Highfield reports* A scientist has put forward the bizarre suggestion that there are two dimensions of time, not the one that we are all familiar with, and even proposed a way to test his heretical idea next year. Time is no longer a simple line from the past to the future, in a four dimensional world consisting of three dimensions of space and one of time. Instead, the physicist envisages the passage of history as curves embedded in a six dimensions, with four of space and two of time. There isn't just one dimension of time, Itzhak Bars of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles tells New Scientist. There are two. One whole dimension of time and another of space have until now gone entirely unnoticed by us. [image: Two-Time Physics diagram] Itzhak Bars' two time physics diagram Bars claims his theory of two time physics, which he has developed over more than a decade, can help solve problems with current theories of the cosmos and, crucially, has true predictive power that can be tested in a forthcoming particle physics experiment. If it is confirmed, it could point the way to a theory of everything that unites all the physical laws of the universe into one, notably general relativity that governs gravity and the large scale structure of the universe, and quantum theory that rules the subatomic world. In the quest for that all embracing theory, scientists have been adding extra dimensions of space to their equations for decades. As early as the 1920s, mathematicians found that moving up to four dimensions of space, instead of the three we experience, helped in their quest to reconcile theories of electromagnetism and gravity. Today, theoreticians are studying a theory of everything called M-theory that adds yet another dimension, taking the total to 11: 10 of space and one of time. Until now, they have been reluctant to meddle with time because it can lead to unexpected consequences, such as time travel. Changing our picture of time from a line to a plane (one to two dimensions) means that the path between the past and future could loop back on itself, allowing you to travel back and forwards in time and allowing the famous grandfather paradox, where you could go back and kill your grandfather before your mother was born, thereby preventing your own birth. Bars first found hints of an extra time dimension in M-theory in 1995 and, when he looked into it, discovered the grandfather paradox and other fears could be overcome by using a new kind of symmetry - a mathematical property to work out the relationship between the quantities of position and momentum. It is this symmetry that might help reconcile the two mighty pillars of 20th-century physics, quantum mechanics and relativity. Simply adding an extra dimension of time doesn't solve everything, however. To produce equations that work with the new symmetry that describe the world accurately, an additional dimension of space is needed as well, giving a total of four space dimensions, he explained in the journal Physical Review D. According to Bars, the familiar four dimensional world we see around us is merely a shadow of the six-dimensional reality, just as a hand makes many different shadows on a wall when lit from different angles. Although we cannot experience the extra time dimension directly, we can effectively notice it through the different perspectives of the different shadows. In this sense, he points to already existing evidence of physical phenomena at both macroscopic and microscopic scales. Furthermore, he believes that more evidence for his theory could emerge next year, when particles are smashed together in CERN's Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, Switzerland to create hitherto unseen supersymmetric particles. The work poses a question: is his proposal a mathematical fix, rather than a real physical entity? Bars insists his extra dimensions are more than mathematical sleight of hand. Absolutely not, he told New Scientist. These extra dimensions are out there, as real as the three dimensions of space and one of time we experience directly. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/10/scitime110.xml *Tantra Psychology *http://Learn.to/TantraPsychology
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
- Thanks - getting drunk, perhaps being an alcoholic; where do you draw the line, finally admitting that something is not OK?: and realize there's Spiritual work to do, instead of spending their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer? That too can be and actually is spiritual work :-) Sometimes a lifetime or two off getting drunk is just what the doctor ordered! How about if a person is a serial rapist. Would the doctor order that? Or, a methamphetamine salesman? Your POV seems to suggest that everything is OK. Aren't things that are not OK also the Light you talk about? That being case, it seems more logical to disapprove of a career of being a serial rapist or a drug pusher. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: --- Thanks, can you see dead people? It's pretty easy for most to do so, I think; all we have to do is let go (at least temporarily) of the belief in the limiting power of spacetime, and trust the subtle body-messages we get. May not be sight; may be any sense or knowing. I did a lot of work (well, a lot of work by *my* standards, which have always been pretty slack) with the dead shortly after waking/dying. At that time, I was also doing a lot of channeling of the Love/Bliss of my higher selves and on some subtle planes our apartment had a huge column of light standing in it, which seemed to attract quite a few confused souls from a number of different time periods. The work mostly consisted of giving them loving attention, telling them they were healed and forgiven, one with their Light, and showing them where the Light is. As they move into it there is often a palpable lightening of the atmosphere, an infusion of sparkle, like ginger- ale. I also used to communicate with them for the bereaved for some years afterwards. I can't say that work has presented itself to me much at all in the last decade or so. If so, what's the status of most of themsay, ordinary people. I can't really say I have never met an ordinary person, or an extraordinary one! (Plus, every person is actually a hierarchical group- mind of countless billions of selves, and every person is a particle of Us.) (And as they are all particles of Us, when we give them our attention, they are immediately bathed in that Light, and usually realize their innate and ecstatic non-existence as Us.) How long does it take them to get their bearings That really varies. Many are actually asleep for several days after death, and many more are in hospital for some time after that. Others go directly into the Light/Bliss/Love, or whatever mansion they most desire/need. Some go through *gut- wrenching, heart-breaking* remorse immediately after dying, sometimes for what seem to me to be relatively minor refractions. Others get swept up immediately into a giant angel. And so on... and realize there's Spiritual work to do, instead of spending their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer? That too can be and actually is spiritual work :-) Sometimes a lifetime or two off getting drunk is just what the doctor ordered! Or, do they not realize there's a Spiritual life and spend their time planning for the next round of insanity? No matter what their conscious attitudes, We are enjoying them, learning from them, growing from them, and so their lives are all equally spiritual to Us. If they wish to join Us in their appreciation of themselves, that's good too -- their choice! And again, from the simplest, truest POV I am aware of in this moment, we are actually only describing particles of the Us, here and now. Many thanks matrix --- fun questions! *L*L*L*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama
In a message dated 11/9/07 9:54:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: his first move would be to call in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years.) He didn't have any specifics or ideas as to where he would start? He only had a few minutes to field questions and there were lots of them. I would think somebody with ten years experience teaching constitutional law ,could rattle off, in a couple of seconds, a couple of the more egregious examples he would reverse. But maybe not. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end...
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. Hmm... my memory has her restaurant as Buckboard Annies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Peggy also went to MIU in the mid 70's. Really great, funny woman. Got to know her in a long car ride from MIU to Cleveland one time. Her parents built a wing in their house tiny size for Peggy and her brother. I'm glad to see that she's still alive. Many dwarfs die before the age of 40. When she opened her restaurant in Fairfield she served champagne. Bevan found out about it and actually called her to chastise her. She blew him of with a WTF, dude? Curtis, did you know her at MIU? --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
On Nov 9, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. Hmm... my memory has her restaurant as Buckboard Annies. That was a great restaurant. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peggy also went to MIU in the mid 70's. Really great, funny woman. Got to know her in a long car ride from MIU to Cleveland one time. Her parents built a wing in their house tiny size for Peggy and her brother. I'm glad to see that she's still alive. Many dwarfs die before the age of 40. When she opened her restaurant in Fairfield she served champagne. Bevan found out about it and actually called her to chastise her. She blew him of with a WTF, dude? Curtis, did you know her at MIU? Yeah, she was in my class. I remember seeing her with one of her hunky boyfriends and thinking, this chick has no limits. I am so glad to see her doing well. She used to enter the front of an LC classroom and do a front drop as if right on her face. It brought the house down. She used her smallness but never ran it as shtick. I think her parents really did it right with the house wing built to size. Would it disrupt the kumbaya vibe too much to say fuck Bevan? OK then let's just focus on how cool Peggy is an not focus on what a total dipshit Bevan is. Oh sorry that kinda harshed the buzz there, I didn't mean to distract from our open hearts flowing to an original spirit like Peggy just to flip the bird to a human buttplug. Wow, sorry, I didn't mean for that to leak out, what I mean is that the positive vibes of remembering Peggy shouldn't be shadowed in any way by my own limits of seeing Bevan as anything but taco turds packed into an ill fitting suit...ooops...I guess I'll just leave it at that. Peggy rules. (Bevan, not so much) --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Thanks - getting drunk, perhaps being an alcoholic; where do you draw the line, finally admitting that something is not OK?: For me, something is not OK *in myself* when I realize it is an addiction trying to distract me from the emptiful void or from some pain I have not yet attended to. As soon as I can bring myself to fully attend to it, I do, and it dissolves as the illusion it always actually was. This process is not as easy as it may sound. It takes a great deal of courage to attend to those horrific parts of ourselves we'd rather project onto (and condemn self-righteously) in someone else. In truth, as I see it, there *is* no one else. The buck stops here. If I abdicate my responsibility for upholding the whole thing, I place myself in a disempowered victim role, and the price I pay for projection isn't worth the small pleasure of judgement. (This is not to say I don't *heartily* enjoy the role of creature as well as creator; if anything, being a creature is even better than being a creator, for being a creator is one's ordinary self, and being an inifinitesimal creature one can fully appreciate the infinitely immense or divine qualities of oneself as creator. However, I never fully knew that until I allowed myself to be the creator, to uphold all of creation as myself.) As for what appears to be others, or those who hold themselves to be different from me, I do my best to work as quickly as possible back to unconditional love, realizing with gratitude they are showing me my own demons. Holding grudges, holding judgements, etc., only hurts my own physiology, causing blocks to my energy-flow and creating dis-ease and eventually disease. Again, I must emphasize that this process this *has no bearing* on what my actual behavior (which is automatic anyhow) toward them in realtime may or may not be. It does not mean if I see someone committing a wrong that I won't act to stop it. Nor does it guarantee that I will. My actions do not always correspond with what conventional morality would dictate. and realize there's Spiritual work to do, instead of spending their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer? That too can be and actually is spiritual work :-) Sometimes a lifetime or two off getting drunk is just what the doctor ordered! How about if a person is a serial rapist. Would the doctor order that? Or, a methamphetamine salesman? If a person is a serial rapist or a methamphetamine salesman, then evidently the doctor *has* ordered that up, to this point anyway. This is completely incomprehensible to the small self, I know. I would have reacted to the above statement with righteous outrage before I died. One doesn't get this until one learns the full-fillment of surrender to the perfection that IS. It is not and will never be fully comprehended by the rational mind, or the intellect, because the intellect's function is dualistic and distinguishing: hence, cruder and more relative than the Self appreciating and surrendering into the Self, which is what we're talking about here. Your POV seems to suggest that everything is OK. Aren't things that are not OK also the Light you talk about? That being case, it seems more logical to disapprove of a career of being a serial rapist or a drug pusher. Yes, probably so, but we're not talking about logic here. Logic is essentually dualist; it cannot comprehend the paradox of Being. Love it all (and be it all) or truly love none of it (and think oneself apart), that's about as close as my logic can come to describing the immensity and our logical tendencies towards rejection of That and the subsequent ignorance we cascade into :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. Hmm... my memory has her restaurant as Buckboard Annies. God, I loved that place! I lived right across the square, above the barber shop on the NE corner, and used to go there pretty often :-) *lol*
[FairfieldLife] Re: An idol of the Jokela school killer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fisherman P. Linkola was obviously one of the idols of the Jokela (~ yaw-keh-lah) school killer: http://www.iltalehti.fi/nettitv/?27937534 *** ...many observers have noted the pernicious, if unintended, effect that intense media attention has had, glamorizing assassins and inspiring copycats. John W. Hinckley Jr., who shot and wounded Ronald Reagan in 1981, said he did it to prove his love for the actress Jodie Foster, who appeared in the film Taxi Driver, about a would- be assassin who looked to Mr. Bremer [like] a role model. The same glamorizing effect is widely said to be at work in today's spate of school and college shooting sprees, including the most recent attack, at a high school in Finland this week. http://tinyurl.com/284wqh
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Peggy also went to MIU in the mid 70's. Really great, funny woman. Got to know her in a long car ride from MIU to Cleveland one time. Her parents built a wing in their house tiny size for Peggy and her brother. I'm glad to see that she's still alive. Many dwarfs die before the age of 40. When she opened her restaurant in Fairfield she served champagne. Bevan found out about it and actually called her to chastise her. She blew him of with a WTF, dude? Curtis, did you know her at MIU? Yeah, she was in my class. I remember seeing her with one of her hunky boyfriends and thinking, this chick has no limits. I am so glad to see her doing well. She used to enter the front of an LC classroom and do a front drop as if right on her face. It brought the house down. She used her smallness but never ran it as shtick. I think her parents really did it right with the house wing built to size. Would it disrupt the kumbaya vibe too much to say fuck Bevan? OK then let's just focus on how cool Peggy is an not focus on what a total dipshit Bevan is. Oh sorry that kinda harshed the buzz there, I didn't mean to distract from our open hearts flowing to an original spirit like Peggy just to flip the bird to a human buttplug. Wow, sorry, I didn't mean for that to leak out, what I mean is that the positive vibes of remembering Peggy shouldn't be shadowed in any way by my own limits of seeing Bevan as anything but taco turds packed into an ill fitting suit...ooops...I guess I'll just leave it at that. Peggy rules. (Bevan, not so much) I don't know how many people are aware of it, but she was quite the figure skater as well. Her parents had obviously paid for lessons because she could do the whole gamut of stuff, such as twirling, jumping, etc. ... all that stuff you see in Ice Capades. On one of the rare occasions in which the MIU pond froze over and it was safe to walk on it, I saw her doing her routines on it. Sat transfixed for about 1/2 an hour. But I must, at the risk of being a party pooper, share one negative story about her which did indeed make me think that she took advantage of her small size. Once when I was in that place in the Student Union that sold sandwiches and cakes (kinda a restaurant), she was in there. They had cakes and slices of cakes and pies displayed for sale, and they were situated on the lowest shelf. Well, sweet and innocent Peggy came by and took her index finger and proceeded to run her finger across the top of each and every cake and pie, lick her finger, and then repeated it. She rendered virtually every single cake and pie unsellable in about 60 seconds of irresponsible childish gluttony. She then proceeded to leave the restaurant completely nonchalantly. Of course, it would have been too politically incorrect to chastise the poor midget, so no one said boo. --- george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Thanks to Deltablues
This is my first post for the week after a long silence, and I want to dedicate it to Deltablues, thanking him for his enlightened point of view---if there is evolution, then it follows that we should not worship some ancient civilization blindly, however great some of its insights may have been---and there is no doubt that many have been very great. There is, too, a big difference between the Vedic literature, the Vedic literature in (various) translation(s), and the TMO's reception of that literature. The study of the reception of a specific literature is a recognized branch of literary studies, and we can be sure that the TMO's reception of that literature is different from, say, the 19th century German reception of that same literature. TM may have been a neutral mental technique at some point, and for some it is still that. But for many, and for the organization, it has become a religion, and I think it is fundamentalist in lots of ways. At best, a religion is a vehicle designed to get you some place---but then you park it. And, to me, that is one definition of enlightenment---the car is transcended, so to speak. And I see some of that around town and on campus. The car loses its purpose, however, when you get out and worship it instead of just driving it---and I see a lot of vehicle worship in the organization---not so much outside of it. If a religion is a vehicle, however, it also follows that you don't judge a person by the car he's driving. The car, by itself, does not tell you how far the driver has gone towards the goal, but his interpretation of religious material does tell you a great deal. And, even after reaching the goal, the driver may wish to speak to others about that goal, and then, he must a language. Religion for such a person has become a language, rather than a belief system, and this shows. All religions come in two general flavors, esoteric and exoteric. In exoteric religions, you get rules like, thou shalt not kill. Esoteric religions tend to have rules like, love your neighbor as yourself. Exoteric religion tends to be fundamentalist. The belief, for example, that Sanskrit is the language of nature is the very essence of fundamentalism if it also includes the belief that no other language can aspire to that status. Language follows laws of form, which are abstract in the mathematical sense. Every law of form is infinite in two senses: it can generate forms infinitely, and it can refer to itself. Churning out infinite numbers of forms is, by itself, essentially mindless, but self-referral is the essence of intelligence, as we should all know. Every human language has that feature of self-referral. To hold that only one language is the language of God or of nature has more to do with empire building than it has to do with truth. The Romans, in their heyday, told many of the same stories about Latin that I hear about Sanskrit around here. a Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] time and reincarnation
Thanks to whoever sent the article on other dimensions of time. The concept is not new, however.The notion of past lives implies that time is a sort of freight train running on a track from the past through the present and into a future. This is the one-dimensional view of time. Such an idea of time is not seriously entertained by anyone in an age in which scientists think of retrocausation as real, and even that still implies the freight train model of time. It makes much more sense to me to say that I am all lives of all things in all times and all possible universes (which includes one in which monkeys are jumping outa my ass), now and forever, and there is a straight line between me and any life form anytime, past, present, and future. I think of time as an ocean, infinite in extent in all directions and there are no shores. Events may bob up on that ocean, but this is not the only way to conceptualize the shining moments of our experience. As I said in another post, all laws of form are infinite. The fact that I seem to be located in Angela in Ff in 2007 is a persistent illusion, which is loosening its grip as I live, so that I do feel the reality of other lives and get glimpses of being Hitler or Guru Dev or some cow grazing contentedly on a hilltop. And there are lives on other planets and in other dimensions that are accessible---I think Rory might agree to that. a Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: time and reincarnation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to whoever sent the article on other dimensions of time. The concept is not new, however.The notion of past lives implies that time is a sort of freight train running on a track from the past through the present and into a future. This is the one- dimensional view of time. Such an idea of time is not seriously entertained by anyone in an age in which scientists think of retrocausation as real, and even that still implies the freight train model of time. It makes much more sense to me to say that I am all lives of all things in all times and all possible universes (which includes one in which monkeys are jumping outa my ass), now and forever, and there is a straight line between me and any life form anytime, past, present, and future. I think of time as an ocean, infinite in extent in all directions and there are no shores. Events may bob up on that ocean, but this is not the only way to conceptualize the shining moments of our experience. As I said in another post, all laws of form are infinite. The fact that I seem to be located in Angela in Ff in 2007 is a persistent illusion, which is loosening its grip as I live, so that I do feel the reality of other lives and get glimpses of being Hitler or Guru Dev or some cow grazing contentedly on a hilltop. And there are lives on other planets and in other dimensions that are accessible---I think Rory might agree to that. a Udderly :-)
