[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: blusc0ut: I should ask you, when you saw your mantra in print, was it in Sanskrit devanagari or in english transliteration? What would your reaction have been if it was in Devanagari? There's probably only one single person on this forum that could recognize their bija mantra if it was written in Sanskrit Devangiri. Well, that seems to read 'hriiH' (pronounced with an echo vowel, hriihi aka hreehy)...
[FairfieldLife] Karma is unfathomable :-) (was Re: Questions for Vaj)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I don't see Maharishi as a charlatan, because that word to me connotes conscious awareness of deceit. My honest impression of Maharishi is that he did not have the ability to self-assess, and thus determine that he was *possibly* being deceitful. My assessment of him is that he just acted, assuming that it would be correct. Lying would be just as natural to him as telling the truth, because both would be spontaneous, and thus (in his view), the will of Nature or the three gunas or whatever. I don't happen to agree with his view. I think that his actions were completely the result of his own decisions and his own will, not Nature's or the three gunas', and that he bears all the responsi- bility for the results of those actions. thx, I fully agree. On the Gunas doing actions (and not some Guru); the error in such Marshy-talk would be that: (a) since the Self - unmanifest aspect of Brahman - is not a Doer, being transcendental to cause and effect, then (b) the doer must be the Gunas, (but!): (c) The conventional body-mind of the Guru in question is composed of the Gunas interacting with the elements and components of what makes up a conventional person, will being one such component along the the organs of action. (d) Since MMY's body-mind along with will is an expression of the Gunas, if we say The Gunas did it, that includes the Guru's body-mind (being composed of the Gunas). (e) as a result of the above, we are left trying to figure out which Gunas along with a will performed the actions; (clearly an impossible task since this is an example of karma is unfathomable); and there is no distinct boundary between the actions of a person and the environment in the holographic model. (f) the net result - back to square one in finding out the who of actions, in which case we must resort to common sense, the available tools of science, and decision making without the excess baggage of Advaita and Neo-A which does nothing whatsoever to enhance our knowledge of responsibility and doership. (g) there's no evidence that wrt the question of who done- it and responsibility; that adding the model of Advaita makes any difference in answering such questions. On another level altogether, I've been having fun lately with the belief held by some here that all action is really performed by the three gunas, and that they are mere passive, non-doing puppets of the three gunas, who are the real doers. What believing in this means, if you cut to the bottom line, is that the people who believe it are asserting that they are not the real authors of their own posts to Fairfield Life. Each and every post they write are written NOT by them, but by the three gunas. Furthermore, since they tend to assert that those of use who believe in free will are mistaken, and that *our* actions are similarly all really performed by the three gunas, they logically would have to admit that ALL posts written to FFL are really written by the three gunas. Think about that. That would mean that all of Nabby's rants are really authored by Nature, in the form of the three gunas. So are all of Judy's, even the ones she gets upset when people don't pay enough attention to, and compliment her for. :-) The kicker, though, is that all of MY posts are thus *also* written by the three gunas. All of Vaj's and Sal's and Joe's posts -- the very ones criticized and corrected and their authors consistently demonized by the two posters above -- are written *by the same three guys who write the demonizers' posts*. Talk about karma being unfathomable...it seems to me that for the people who believe in this Advaitan nonsense the actions of the three gunas are even *more* unfathomable. They would have us believe that the three gunas write shit here as Turq and Vaj and Sal and Joe, but *then* feel the need to refute and correct the things they've just written by writing stinging rebuttals that insult...uh... themselves. The three gunas write A, through Turq and Vaj and Sal and Joe, and then they completely reverse them- selves and dump on A and assert Z, through Judy and Nabby and Jim and others. Go figure. I mean...go fucking figure. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Meditation beats dance for harmonizing body and mind
Meditation beats dance for harmonizing body and mind February 24th, 2011 in Medicine Health / Psychology Psychiatry (PhysOrg.com) -- The body is a dancer's instrument, but is it attuned to the mind? A new study from the University of California, Berkeley, suggests that professional ballet and modern dancers are not as emotionally in sync with their bodies as are people who regularly practice meditation. UC Berkeley researchers tracked how closely the emotions of seasoned meditators and professional dancers followed bodily changes such as breathing and heart rates. They found that dancers who devote enormous time and effort to developing awareness of and precise control over their muscles – a theme coincidentally raised in the new ballet movie “Black Swan” – do not have a stronger mind-body connection than do most other people. By contrast, veteran practitioners of Vipassana or mindfulness meditation – a technique focused on observing breathing, heartbeat, thoughts and feelings without judgment – showed the closest mind-body bond, according to the study recently published in the journal Emotion. “We all talk about our emotions as if they are intimately connected to our bodies – such as the ‘heartache of sadness’ and ‘bursting a blood vessel’ in anger,” said Robert Levenson, a UC Berkeley psychology professor and senior author of the study. “We sought to precisely measure how close that connection was, and found it was stronger for meditators.” The results offer new clues in the mystery of the mind-body connection. Previous studies have linked the dissociation of mind and body to various medical and psychiatric diseases. “Ever have the experience of getting home from work and realizing you have a blistering headache?” said Jocelyn Sze, a doctoral student in clinical science at UC Berkeley and the lead author of the study. “The headache probably built up throughout the day, but you might have been intentionally ignoring it and convincing yourself that you felt fine so that you could get through the demands of the day.” Increasingly, mindfulness meditation is being used to treat physical and psychological problems, researchers point out. “We believe that some of these health benefits derive from meditation’s capacity to increase the association between mind and body in emotion,” Levenson said. For the experiment, the researchers recruited volunteers from meditation and dance centers around the San Francisco Bay Area and via Craigslist. The study sample consisted of 21 dancers with at least two years of training in modern dance or ballet and 21 seasoned meditators with at least two years of Vipassana practice. A third “control group” was made up of 21 moderately active adults with no training in dance, meditation, Pilates or professional sports. Participants, who ranged in age from 18 to 40, were wired with electrodes to measure their bodily responses while they watched emotionally charged scenes from movies and used a rating dial to indicate how they were feeling. Although all participants reported similar emotional reactions to the film clips, meditators showed stronger correlations between the emotions they reported feeling and the speed of their heartbeats. Surprisingly, the differences between dancers and the control group were minimal. Researchers theorize that dancers learn to shift focus between time, music, space, and muscles and achieve heightened awareness of their muscle tone, body alignment and posture. “These are all very helpful for becoming a better dancer, but they do not tighten the links between mind and body in emotion,” Levenson said. By contrast, meditators practice attending to “visceral” body sensations, which makes them more attuned to internal organs such as the heart. “These types of visceral sensations are a primary focus of Vipassana meditation, which is typically done sitting still and paying attention to internal sensations,” Sze said. More information: The study was published in the December 2010 issue of Emotion. Provided by University of California - Berkeley Meditation beats dance for harmonizing body and mind. February 24th, 2011. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-meditation- harmonizing-body-mind.html
[FairfieldLife] Mahesh and the Lie, was Questions for V
On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Peter wrote: Vaj, I love ya brother, but this just ain't true!! --- On Thu, 2/24/11, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 9:52 PM On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: They believe the truth of what their saying, even if they only have a sketch and are making the rest up, on the fly. One of the disappointing stories on Mahesh is the story of how he would be prepped by his students on abstract ideas, often by reading various Sanskrit translations; all backstage, behind the curtain. Could someone elaborate on Maharishi doing this? I know he spoke with experts who drew the knowledge out of him. But do what is described here really happen? Just how was Maharishi (trade mark) Vastu or Maharishi (trade mark) Ayurveda developed? I was told that experts drew the knowledge out of Maharishi's omniscience. Not so? Well, you're quoting Tom, not me, so I'm not sure what to say! It's well known this actually occurred at Estes Park, as it was observed directly by Mahesh's assistant. Unless you were part of the inner circle that protected and coddled him, you'd never ever see this. Behind the scenes could be very business-like, let's sell those mantras and then once on stage with the cameras rolling, the giggling one returned. But Pete you've shared your own story about how a visiting vaidya's lecture was so heavily edited as to no longer resemble what he was actually saying -- and all in order to toe the line with the dictates of Maheshism. The same information extraction and filtering was going since the earliest daze. There are numerous other first hand accounts other than Estes Park. For more details, check out http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/01/mahesh- and-lie.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Vaj
On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Tom Pall wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: They believe the truth of what their saying, even if they only have a sketch and are making the rest up, on the fly. One of the disappointing stories on Mahesh is the story of how he would be prepped by his students on abstract ideas, often by reading various Sanskrit translations; all backstage, behind the curtain. Could someone elaborate on Maharishi doing this? I know he spoke with experts who drew the knowledge out of him. But do what is described here really happen? Just how was Maharishi (trade mark) Vastu or Maharishi (trade mark) Ayurveda developed? I was told that experts drew the knowledge out of Maharishi's omniscience. Not so? Not. See the previous post. I have a collection of personal, insider notes from a Purusha as to what knowledge was being digested at various times. You can see from them who M. was meeting with and later what programs were being fabricated from those meetings. He basically would meet with various experts in various fields and use the information that fit his system and discard those that didn't. It did not matter if this distorted these teachings, he was supposedly restoring the purity of the tradition... A great example of how course and knowledge material would be created was the 700-page source material for the Age of Enlightenment courses and techniques. It was a huge pile of photocopies from common Sanskrit translations in those daze, a lot on the number 7 and how creation inherently was based on different permutations of 7. A lot of Arthur Avalon. Descriptions of the various heavens and hells, chakra systems, etc. All those late night lectures came from students reading him this stuff AFAICT.
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: Oh, how I miss the burgers and fries at White Castle. No White Castle outlets in these here parts. There're my daughter's favorite late night snack. But to call them a burger is a stretch in my opinion. They go by slingers, which is a more apt description. Or, more appetizingly still, sliders. (*bellchh*)
[FairfieldLife] Norwegian Woo...er...Sweater?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWB_-5nzuCE Norjalainen villa-paita /norr-ya-lie-nen vill-lah-pie-tah/ : Norwegian sweater (literally: wool-skirt).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Vaj
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a collection of personal, insider notes from a Purusha as to what knowledge was being digested at various times. You can see from them who M. was meeting with and later what programs were being fabricated from those meetings. He basically would meet with various experts in various fields and use the information that fit his system and discard those that didn't. It did not matter if this distorted these teachings, he was supposedly restoring the purity of the tradition... A great example of how course and knowledge material would be created was the 700-page source material for the Age of Enlightenment courses and techniques. It was a huge pile of photocopies from common Sanskrit translations in those daze, a lot on the number 7 and how creation inherently was based on different permutations of 7. A lot of Arthur Avalon. Descriptions of the various heavens and hells, chakra systems, etc. All those late night lectures came from students reading him this stuff AFAICT. It's up to each of us to decide if Maharishi had special knowledge of creation from his alleged omniscience which allowed him to go through this process restoring the purity of the tradition. Maharishi was acting on whims, as he always did. Whether or not what he taught was perfect, entirely guided by the three goons, is at question here, IMO. What Maharishi did distorted the teachings if the interpretation of the teachings had gotten off the path. So now we're back to one of the seminal arguments on FFL: was Maharishi acting in an undistorted way from the home of all the laws of Nature or wasn't he.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Vaj
On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Tom Pall wrote: It's up to each of us to decide if Maharishi had special knowledge of creation from his alleged omniscience which allowed him to go through this process restoring the purity of the tradition. Maharishi was acting on whims, as he always did. Whether or not what he taught was perfect, entirely guided by the three goons, is at question here, IMO. What Maharishi did distorted the teachings if the interpretation of the teachings had gotten off the path. So now we're back to one of the seminal arguments on FFL: was Maharishi acting in an undistorted way from the home of all the laws of Nature or wasn't he. Based on my direct experience with other teachers, I'd have to agree with his old secretaries and other insiders and have to give that one a big no. Each person would have to discover on their own why this is the case. Some people seem to have the knack (or karma) for never ever getting a good teacher. IME teachers who restore knowledge, without ever trying to do so, do so in the language of nonduality and revelation, not with the sound of square pegs squeaking into round holes. And that Wisdom flows over into the students, often without a lot of intervening talk and fuss. Fresh mind revelations are like pancakes straight off the griddle of sizzling gnosis. I've been on courses where I and others would awake from sleep, and the entire corpus of teaching was alive in consciousness, all questions were resolved and in many cases we'd have memory of individualized sadhanas. Having observed, witnessed and experienced a number of yogis as tertons (text revealers), I just don't feel or sense the same thing going with Ole Mahesh, despite having had numerous visionary experiences regarding him personally.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: I have a collection of personal, insider notes from a Purusha as to what knowledge was being digested at various times. You can see from them who M. was meeting with and later what programs were being fabricated from those meetings. He basically would meet with various experts in various fields and use the information that fit his system and discard those that didn't. It did not matter if this distorted these teachings, he was supposedly restoring the purity of the tradition... A great example of how course and knowledge material would be created was the 700-page source material for the Age of Enlightenment courses and techniques. It was a huge pile of photocopies from common Sanskrit translations in those daze, a lot on the number 7 and how creation inherently was based on different permutations of 7. A lot of Arthur Avalon. Descriptions of the various heavens and hells, chakra systems, etc. All those late night lectures came from students reading him this stuff AFAICT. It's up to each of us to decide if Maharishi had special knowledge of creation from his alleged omniscience which allowed him to go through this process restoring the purity of the tradition. Maharishi was acting on whims, as he always did. Whether or not what he taught was perfect, entirely guided by the three goons, is at question here, IMO. What Maharishi did distorted the teachings if the interpretation of the teachings had gotten off the path. So now we're back to one of the seminal arguments on FFL: was Maharishi acting in an undistorted way from the home of all the laws of Nature or wasn't he? With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy your absence and your consequent irrelevance. With all due respect. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. And everyone can as easily understand that, as usual, when someone says something you don't like, you drop into attack mode. :-) I repeat my contention. No one on planet Earth gives a shit whether what Maharishi said and did was in accord with the laws of nature or not, or whether he was enlightened or not, except for people trying to justify their years (and tens of thousands of dollars) of investment in him. T'would seem you're one of those people, so to you debating the subject endlessly is not boring. To me, it is. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Absolutely. And? Oh. I forgot. You don't like people being able to make comments you don't agree with. :-) Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy your absence and your consequent irrelevance. We? Is that a vajra in your pocket, or are you glad to see me? :-) With all due respect. Uh-huh. :-) I generally ignore anything you say, Empt. Might I suggest you just do the same with what I say? As much as you don't like the fact, I have the right to say anything I want. Here, or elsewhere. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
Actually, you seem to care a lot about it. If you didn't, why would you make so many posts, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, attacking MMY and the TMO? If you are so bored with it, why do you keep writing about it? Why are you still so angry about MMY and the TMO, 30 years after you claim to have left the movement? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: I have a collection of personal, insider notes from a Purusha as to what knowledge was being digested at various times. You can see from them who M. was meeting with and later what programs were being fabricated from those meetings. He basically would meet with various experts in various fields and use the information that fit his system and discard those that didn't. It did not matter if this distorted these teachings, he was supposedly restoring the purity of the tradition... A great example of how course and knowledge material would be created was the 700-page source material for the Age of Enlightenment courses and techniques. It was a huge pile of photocopies from common Sanskrit translations in those daze, a lot on the number 7 and how creation inherently was based on different permutations of 7. A lot of Arthur Avalon. Descriptions of the various heavens and hells, chakra systems, etc. All those late night lectures came from students reading him this stuff AFAICT. It's up to each of us to decide if Maharishi had special knowledge of creation from his alleged omniscience which allowed him to go through this process restoring the purity of the tradition. Maharishi was acting on whims, as he always did. Whether or not what he taught was perfect, entirely guided by the three goons, is at question here, IMO. What Maharishi did distorted the teachings if the interpretation of the teachings had gotten off the path. So now we're back to one of the seminal arguments on FFL: was Maharishi acting in an undistorted way from the home of all the laws of Nature or wasn't he? With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
Wiki is all right to start but rarely to finish. Yes, dala means petal. So are you taking lessons now from Billy? I'm delighted to determine that we are merely mechanical automatons with wheels-a-plenty, leaves on trees and mantras written in fine filigree on the petals of the flowers that cover those trees. Even better, we can depend upon Vyasa when he describes the fixing on a place (desha-bandha) of the chitta, which must mean what we mean by mind, right? The same for dharana on theheart which is like a downward-pointing lotus flower in the pond at night before the sun arises in the morning. Why ... even the mind can be divided now, at least when doing some of that terribly dangerous japa ... right? Hmmm it is just so obvious, is it not? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: FYI ... Sahasra + ara = sahasrÄra or sahasraara sahasra = 1000 ara = a radii or a wheel spoke Therefore ... sahasrÄra or sahasraara literally means a thousand radii or spokes, which was why it was chosen for the crown chakra or wheel. OTOH ... Sahasrada = Yadu had five sons, Sahasrada ... blah blah ... Sahasrada's descendents were the Haihaya-s, among the most famous was Kartyavirya Arjuna. Arjuna's great deeds were his defeat and imprisionment of Ravana, king of Lanka. ** Yes, but its also called sahasradala, as the WP aricle shows: In the Vedas and late Upanishads: Akasha Chakra, Kapalasamputa, Sahasradala, Sahasrara, Sahasrara Kamala (Pankaja or Padma), Sthana, Wyoma, Wyomambuja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahasrara I probably contracted Sahasrara with Sahasradala.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit. I don't think the tmorg will ever die in our lifetimes, they have enough money to keep it going. Usually when these orgs become defunct they still operate in a skeleton fashion with those dependent on them for their livelihood administering it, for better or worseFWIW. Personally, I think MMY blew it by diluting the teaching by these 'advanced' techniques given to practitioners that can barely blow their nose (yet 'fly'). TM could have been the Ronald McDonald's of meditation techniques, but I think MMY wasn't satisfied with that, he really wanted to institute Vedic Culture as well, hence all of the Hindu/Vedic traditions. I know a lot of Christian preachers that would like to do the same thing with Christianity. Personally, MMY helped me a lot by opening my eyes to spirituality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Actually, you seem to care a lot about it. If you didn't, why would you make so many posts, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, attacking MMY and the TMO? I do NOT attack Maharishi or the TMO. I merely express my opinions. You and others like you parse those opinions as attacks. I lost interest in Maharishi himself decades ago. What I never lost interest in was 1) the people who followed him and what is going on in their lives now, and 2) the ongoing soap opera of a spiritual movement in decline. If you are so bored with it, why do you keep writing about it? Why are you still so angry about MMY and the TMO, 30 years after you claim to have left the movement? I'm not in the least bit angry, any more than I'm attacking Maharishi, the TMO, or...dare I say it... you. The anger seems to be from your side. I merely expressed an opinion, that the only people who really care about Maharishi's enlightenment or lack thereof are those hangers-on who are trying desperately to find some way to justify the decades that they believed in him, or why they still do. I don't have such a need. But I still do have opinions, which it is my right to express on this forum. Both you and emptybill seem to be upset (and yes...angry) *that* I have such a right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: I have a collection of personal, insider notes from a Purusha as to what knowledge was being digested at various times. You can see from them who M. was meeting with and later what programs were being fabricated from those meetings. He basically would meet with various experts in various fields and use the information that fit his system and discard those that didn't. It did not matter if this distorted these teachings, he was supposedly restoring the purity of the tradition... A great example of how course and knowledge material would be created was the 700-page source material for the Age of Enlightenment courses and techniques. It was a huge pile of photocopies from common Sanskrit translations in those daze, a lot on the number 7 and how creation inherently was based on different permutations of 7. A lot of Arthur Avalon. Descriptions of the various heavens and hells, chakra systems, etc. All those late night lectures came from students reading him this stuff AFAICT. It's up to each of us to decide if Maharishi had special knowledge of creation from his alleged omniscience which allowed him to go through this process restoring the purity of the tradition. Maharishi was acting on whims, as he always did. Whether or not what he taught was perfect, entirely guided by the three goons, is at question here, IMO. What Maharishi did distorted the teachings if the interpretation of the teachings had gotten off the path. So now we're back to one of the seminal arguments on FFL: was Maharishi acting in an undistorted way from the home of all the laws of Nature or wasn't he? With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit. I don't think the tmorg will ever die in our lifetimes, they have enough money to keep it going. Personally, I am not convinced of this. They *theoretically* have the money, but my bet is that most of it disappeared into the pockets of Maharishi's relatives in India, and can never be recovered. At some point the Western TM organization is going to start running out of money, because they essen- tially have no income other than a few MUM tuitions and the projects that David Lynch drums up. When this happens, they are going to have to throw themselves on the mercies of the Varmas and beg to be bailed out, and I don't see that happening. This, as with everything I write, is merely my opinion. It may be an incorrect opinion, and I am asking no one to share it or agree with it. YMMV, and you have the right to brag about that mileage here if you want. :-)
[FairfieldLife] China bans reincarnation
China Bans Reincarnation Without Government Permission http://huff.to/eukG2j
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:30 AM, wgm4u wg...@yahoo.com wrote: TM could have been the Ronald McDonald's of meditation techniques, but I think MMY wasn't satisfied with that, he really wanted to institute Vedic Culture as well, hence all of the Hindu/Vedic traditions. I know a lot of Christian preachers that would like to do the same thing with Christianity. Personally, MMY helped me a lot by opening my eyes to spirituality. Ronald McDonald is a clown. Are you saying we could have been a clown of mediation known throughout the civilized world and parts of Arkansas? MMY helped me a lot by opening my eyes spiritually. He also turned me away from him and his movement by trying to turn the world into his concept of VedaLand.
Re: [FairfieldLife] China bans reincarnation
On 02/25/2011 08:51 AM, Rick Archer wrote: China Bans Reincarnation Without Government Permission http://huff.to/eukG2j Next they'll try to ban ghosts because if you're pissed when you die you might want to make some mischief from the other side for your enemies in this lifetime. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:30 AM, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: TM could have been the Ronald McDonald's of meditation techniques, but I think MMY wasn't satisfied with that, he really wanted to institute Vedic Culture as well, hence all of the Hindu/Vedic traditions. I know a lot of Christian preachers that would like to do the same thing with Christianity. Personally, MMY helped me a lot by opening my eyes to spirituality. Ronald McDonald is a clown. Are you saying we could have been a clown of mediation known throughout the civilized world and parts of Arkansas? No, that's what it is now, a bunch of clowns! :-) MMY helped me a lot by opening my eyes spiritually. He also turned me away from him and his movement by trying to turn the world into his concept of VedaLand. Plus that little Damn Democracy comment. :-) Oh, and comparing Bush to Hitler didn't help either.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On 02/25/2011 05:44 AM, jpgillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pallthomas.pall@ wrote: Oh, how I miss the burgers and fries at White Castle. No White Castle outlets in these here parts. There're my daughter's favorite late night snack. But to call them a burger is a stretch in my opinion. They go by slingers, which is a more apt description. Or, more appetizingly still, sliders. (*bellchh*) You mean the sliders fad is still around? I haven't seen them advertised in a while. Jack in the Box did chicken sliders a couple years ago. Of course sliders have been around forever as party snacks. I even remember some being served back in the 1970s at an upscale party. As for White Castle I think the only time I had them was in San Francisco in the late 60s or early 70s and I seem to recall them being onion burgers or cheap beef flavored with onions to hide their not so great flavor. My pittaness shows up with me not liking onions in many things. They can give me an upset stomach.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
So that is your final word ... I have the right? You and I have no rights here that are not given gratis by Rick. If we don't like it we can start our own forum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. And everyone can as easily understand that, as usual, when someone says something you don't like, you drop into attack mode. :-) I repeat my contention. No one on planet Earth gives a shit whether what Maharishi said and did was in accord with the laws of nature or not, or whether he was enlightened or not, except for people trying to justify their years (and tens of thousands of dollars) of investment in him. T'would seem you're one of those people, so to you debating the subject endlessly is not boring. To me, it is. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Absolutely. And? Oh. I forgot. You don't like people being able to make comments you don't agree with. :-) Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy your absence and your consequent irrelevance. We? Is that a vajra in your pocket, or are you glad to see me? :-) With all due respect. Uh-huh. :-) I generally ignore anything you say, Empt. Might I suggest you just do the same with what I say? As much as you don't like the fact, I have the right to say anything I want. Here, or elsewhere. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Do the Right Thing
Do the Right Thing http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/rajpatel/home/~3/JQSv6q9Z9G4/?utm_source\ =feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 24 Feb 2011 02:57 PM PST The Coalition of Immokalee Workers http://rajpatel.org/?s=immokaleex=0y=0 are pushing forward with their wage demands, targeting two supermarket giants Publix and Ahold. I'll be taking aim at Ahold a little later next month, but if you're on the East Coast of the US, you can join in right now find out more at the CIW's Do The Right Thing http://www.ciw-online.org/dotherightthing/index.html campaign page. http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/ http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/
[FairfieldLife] Karma is unfathomable :-) (was Re: Questions for Vaj)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: The three gunas write A, through Turq and Vaj and Sal and Joe, and then they completely reverse them- selves and dump on A and assert Z, through Judy and Nabby and Jim and others. Go figure. I mean...go fucking figure. :-) The difference is that you're an asshole and the three gunas are not. When Tamas and Rajas MIX fools like you appear.
[FairfieldLife] Karma is unfathomable :-) (was Re: Questions for Vaj)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: The three gunas write A, through Turq and Vaj and Sal and Joe, and then they completely reverse them- selves and dump on A and assert Z, through Judy and Nabby and Jim and others. Go figure. I mean...go fucking figure. :-) The difference is that you're an asshole and the three gunas are not. When Tamas and Rajas MIX fools like you appear. I thought Democrats (ie. progressives) were full of sweetness and light...what happened?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Actually, you seem to care a lot about it. If you didn't, why would you make so many posts, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, attacking MMY and the TMO? If you are so bored with it, why do you keep writing about it? Why are you still so angry about MMY and the TMO, 30 years after you claim to have left the movement? BINGO ! I've asked him the exact same question several times, but as usual when he becomes uncomfortable about something he claims he doesn't read posts from that poster. What a nutter.
[FairfieldLife] Karma is unfathomable :-) (was Re: Questions for Vaj)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: The three gunas write A, through Turq and Vaj and Sal and Joe, and then they completely reverse them- selves and dump on A and assert Z, through Judy and Nabby and Jim and others. Go figure. I mean...go fucking figure. :-) The difference is that you're an asshole and the three gunas are not. When Tamas and Rajas MIX fools like you appear. I thought Democrats (ie. progressives) were full of sweetness and light...what happened? Who said I'm a democrat ? Anyway I can smell an asshole from from any quarter of the political spectrum or otherwise from a long distance :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 02/25/2011 05:44 AM, jpgillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pallthomas.pall@ wrote: Oh, how I miss the burgers and fries at White Castle. No White Castle outlets in these here parts. There're my daughter's favorite late night snack. But to call them a burger is a stretch in my opinion. They go by slingers, which is a more apt description. Or, more appetizingly still, sliders. (*bellchh*) You mean the sliders fad is still around? I haven't seen them advertised in a while. Jack in the Box did chicken sliders a couple years ago. Of course sliders have been around forever as party snacks. I even remember some being served back in the 1970s at an upscale party. As for White Castle I think the only time I had them was in San Francisco in the late 60s or early 70s and I seem to recall them being onion burgers or cheap beef flavored with onions to hide their not so great flavor. My pittaness shows up with me not liking onions in many things. They can give me an upset stomach. White Castle's burgers, which I truly love, are not sliders, IMO. They aren't greasy at all. They are grilled somewhat but pretty much steamed, with onions on top, which accounts for the onion flavor. Their flavor is not so great without the onions and loads of a condiment. But then again I eat hamburgers because they're an excuse to eat loads of catchup. White Castle was the first mass vendor of hamburgers, starting in 1921. White Castle also makes a pretty raucous chili. White Castle burgers can be found in the freezer section of your supermarket. I've purchased many of them from the Hy-Vee in Fairfield. I remember growing up that one of the more sinful dinners being a bag of White Castle hamburgers. Maybe the sin was when Mom cooked. Mom used to open up a can of peas and cook it until it was mush just to make sure it was cooked. Same things with hot dogs. Bout the only thing she didn't overcook was the ethnic food she made. Like, for example, coochina, pigs feet surrounded by the gelatin cooking the pigs feet brought out. Top it with vinegar. A daintier version of coochina is the head cheese you can get at your supermarket.Yuk.
[FairfieldLife] How T M may alleviate PTSD
How Transcendental Meditation may alleviate PTSD by Jerry Chautin The Huffington Post 24 February 2011 On 24 February 2011 The Huffington Post reported: The Transcendental Meditation Programme (TM) shows promise as a solution to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). It is a joy for Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field of health. Last summer, the technique was featured, along with yoga, in an article in Military Officer of America, in which medical consultant Sarina Grosswald is quoted as saying: 'T.M. addresses not just the mental issues of P.T.S.D., but also the physical problems that accompany stress disorders, including hypertension and heart disease. There are many years of research showing the effectiveness of T.M. in reducing stress and anxiety and improving well-being and mental outlook.' The Huffington Post reports that 'T.M. is a stress-relieving technique that has practical applications in business and most other walks of life.' Transcendental Meditation Teacher John Zisman says that during his 20 years in real estate 'T.M. helped me to stay focused, feel refreshed and gave me that edge to succeed through clearer thinking and feeling less stress and pressure.' Mr Zisman 'is participating in a national outreach to help soldiers with P.T.S.D,' the Huffington Post reports. The outreach programme, called Operation Warrior Wellness, was launched in December 2010 by the David Lynch Foundation and aims to offer Transcendental Meditation to 10,000 veterans with PTSD. The Huffington Post article concludes by recommending 'both T.M. and yoga for businesspersons, veterans, high achievers and anyone else who wants to make life more enjoyable'. © Copyright 2011 Global Good News®
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: White Castle's burgers, which I truly love, are not sliders, IMO. They aren't greasy at all. They are grilled somewhat but pretty much steamed, with onions on top, which accounts for the onion flavor. Their flavor is not so great without the onions and loads of a condiment. But then again I eat hamburgers because they're an excuse to eat loads of catchup. White Castle was the first mass vendor of hamburgers, starting in 1921. White Castle also makes a pretty raucous chili. White Castle burgers can be found in the freezer section of your supermarket. I've purchased many of them from the Hy-Vee in Fairfield. I remember growing up that one of the more sinful dinners being a bag of White Castle hamburgers. Maybe the sin was when Mom cooked. Mom used to open up a can of peas and cook it until it was mush just to make sure it was cooked. Same things with hot dogs. Bout the only thing she didn't overcook was the ethnic food she made. Like, for example, coochina, pigs feet surrounded by the gelatin cooking the pigs feet brought out. Top it with vinegar. A daintier version of coochina is the head cheese you can get at your supermarket.Yuk. How about pork and beef tongue, with mustard, yummm, that 's what Mom used to feed us, along with venison sausage that my Dad shot. Yep, those were the good old days(I'm from Minnesota, living in SoCal).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:16 PM, FFL PostCount wrote: 79 Buck dhamiltony2k5@... 50 authfriend jstein@... Is this heaven?? No, it's FF Life!!! Judy's out for the rest of the week, with Buck out for the rest of next week. It just doesn't get any better than this. :) I'd like to thank God, and if he/she/it keeps this up I just might have to start believing in him/her/it again. But in this case I'll just thank Rick~~again. Sal What about the enlightened guy Sal? Out of sight out of mind? How quickly you forget.
[FairfieldLife] foods allowed at AOL courses
Can this be sneaked in to a course? http://www.hudsonhorizons.com/pub/images/spam.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2011 05:44 AM, jpgillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pallthomas.pall@ wrote: Oh, how I miss the burgers and fries at White Castle. No White Castle outlets in these here parts. There're my daughter's favorite late night snack. But to call them a burger is a stretch in my opinion. They go by slingers, which is a more apt description. Or, more appetizingly still, sliders. (*bellchh*) You mean the sliders fad is still around? I haven't seen them advertised in a while. Jack in the Box did chicken sliders a couple years ago. Of course sliders have been around forever as party snacks. I even remember some being served back in the 1970s at an upscale party. As for White Castle I think the only time I had them was in San Francisco in the late 60s or early 70s and I seem to recall them being onion burgers or cheap beef flavored with onions to hide their not so great flavor. My pittaness shows up with me not liking onions in many things. They can give me an upset stomach. Kind of a long phenomenon to call it a *fad* don't cha think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant) Ya sure ya had a White Castle in San Francisco? Perhaps from a box. No self-respecting slider would ever contain chicken Bhairitu. As far as onions go Bhairitu, the reason they are called sliders is how they exit, not enter, the body.
[FairfieldLife] Raucous chili (was Re: White Castle)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: raucous chili I tend to turn my nose up at adjectives, seeing as they so rarely earn their keep, but raucous as a modifier for chili is the best use of an adjective I'm going to see this quarter. Mom used to open up a can of peas and cook it until it was mush just to make sure it was cooked. The irony being that canned foods are already cooked, are they not?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:33 PM, azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Kind of a long phenomenon to call it a *fad* don't cha think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant) Ya sure ya had a White Castle in San Francisco? Perhaps from a box. No self-respecting slider would ever contain chicken Bhairitu. As far as onions go Bhairitu, the reason they are called sliders is how they exit, not enter, the body. I've eaten White Castle burgers in San Francisco. Dunkin Donuts as well. San Francisco has very diverse food. Now as far as the tongue and reindeer sausage goes, well, a good deli would have tongue. Not the pork variety. I love tongue. I love reindeer. Good, down home sort of ethnic food. Now I draw the line on minudo and cabeza. I'll eat cabeza but won't enjoy it that much. Minudo? I was good buddies with a Mexican restaurant owner. I asked him once if I could have a taste of minudo. He said of course. He had the best around. Extra washed to remove the smell. No thanks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:11 PM, turquoiseb wrote: On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:16 PM, FFL PostCount wrote: 79 Buck dhamiltony2k5@... 50 authfriend jstein@... Is this heaven?? No, it's FF Life!!! Judy's out for the rest of the week, with Buck out for the rest of next week. It just doesn't get any better than this. :) Yup. It looks as if the three gunas (who, after all, really write all of Buck's and Judy's posts, with them as mere puppets) were more obsessive-compulsive this week than usual. :-) Getting serious now here~~or whatever passes for it~~I am starting to wonder about Buck medically. I mean, what's been going on with him for the past few days is way beyond normal, even for him. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
79 Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 50 authfriend jstein@ Is this heaven?? No, it's FF Life!!! Judy's out for the rest of the week, with Buck out for the rest of next week. It just doesn't get any better than this. :) Yup. It looks as if the three gunas (who, after all, really write all of Buck's and Judy's posts, with them as mere puppets) were more obsessive-compulsive this week than usual. :-) Getting serious now here~~or whatever passes for it~~I am starting to wonder about Buck medically. I mean, what's been going on with him for the past few days is way beyond normal, even for him. Why not just go over to his house and have a talk with him - your trailer is probably less than a mile from his place. Why get us involved in your medical advice?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
I don't think the tmorg will ever die in our lifetimes, they have enough money to keep it going. turquoiseb: Personally, I am not convinced of this. They *theoretically* have the money, but my bet How much you be willing to wager? is that most of it disappeared into the pockets of Maharishi's relatives in India, and can never be recovered... According to what I've been told, most of the TMO Rajas are millionaires and they have plently of money, even after giving a lot to Maharishi's relatives in India. Most of them seem to have a lot more money saved up than you do. You've got what, $1000 in your bank acount? Hell, even I have more cash on me today than you do! Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
Bill O'Reilly was absolutely right last night... O'Reilly was also right when he said that your average American worker does not look favorably on union teachers up in Wisconsin that called in sick to go on a protest at the state capital. Go ask any parent what they think of union teachers not showing up for school to teach their kids last this week. They probably won't have very many good things to say about having to scramble for child care all week, while the teachers stood around with signs demanding higher pay and more benefits. Parents aren't very impressed with some union teachers. From what I've read, the quality of teaching in scholls in Wisconsin leaves a lot to be desired, when parents find out that Johnny can't even read.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
http://thedude.com/images2/trailer_trash.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: 79 Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 50 authfriend jstein@ Is this heaven?? No, it's FF Life!!! Judy's out for the rest of the week, with Buck out for the rest of next week. It just doesn't get any better than this. :) Yup. It looks as if the three gunas (who, after all, really write all of Buck's and Judy's posts, with them as mere puppets) were more obsessive-compulsive this week than usual. :-) Getting serious now here~~or whatever passes for it~~I am starting to wonder about Buck medically. I mean, what's been going on with him for the past few days is way beyond normal, even for him. Why not just go over to his house and have a talk with him - your trailer is probably less than a mile from his place. Why get us involved in your medical advice?
[FairfieldLife] Technical Question for Alex, Tom, or someone
Google Adwords has a feature whereby you can prevent people within a specified geographic radius from seeing your ads. It's called Location Exclusions: If you have a pesky competitor that you do not want to see your ads, consider excluding an X mile radius from their location. There is no guarantee that this will work, as location is often based on ISP locations, but it could be an interesting way to hide your ads from your top competitors. The company I'd like to prevent from seeing a client's ads is ESCROW ASSOCIATES, LLC http://tinyurl.com/63759pd , whose ISP is NuVox Communications http://www.windstreambusiness.com/broadband-phone-service/georgia.html (now Windstream). The visitor IP address was 173.221.194.2. Can you figure out what precise location I should block?
[FairfieldLife] pic of new Raja
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[FairfieldLife] Guided Meditation
http://neosurrealismart.com/modern-art-prints/?artworks/confluence-or-guided-meditation.htmlfullsize
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On 02/25/2011 11:33 AM, azgrey wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2011 05:44 AM, jpgillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pallthomas.pall@ wrote: Oh, how I miss the burgers and fries at White Castle. No White Castle outlets in these here parts. There're my daughter's favorite late night snack. But to call them a burger is a stretch in my opinion. They go by slingers, which is a more apt description. Or, more appetizingly still, sliders. (*bellchh*) You mean the sliders fad is still around? I haven't seen them advertised in a while. Jack in the Box did chicken sliders a couple years ago. Of course sliders have been around forever as party snacks. I even remember some being served back in the 1970s at an upscale party. As for White Castle I think the only time I had them was in San Francisco in the late 60s or early 70s and I seem to recall them being onion burgers or cheap beef flavored with onions to hide their not so great flavor. My pittaness shows up with me not liking onions in many things. They can give me an upset stomach. Kind of a long phenomenon to call it a *fad* don't cha think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant) Not White Castle but there was a fad for a while recently of restaurants serving sliders. They were quite popular. Ya sure ya had a White Castle in San Francisco? Perhaps from a box. I know they are an East Coast phenomenon but I'm pretty sure there was one there back around 1969 and it ain't there now. No self-respecting slider would ever contain chicken Bhairitu. You don't know Jack.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:53 PM, azgrey wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:16 PM, FFL PostCount wrote: 79 Buck dhamiltony2k5@... 50 authfriend jstein@... Is this heaven?? No, it's FF Life!!! Judy's out for the rest of the week, with Buck out for the rest of next week. It just doesn't get any better than this. :) I'd like to thank God, and if he/she/it keeps this up I just might have to start believing in him/her/it again. But in this case I'll just thank Rick~~again. Sal What about the enlightened guy Sal? Out of sight out of mind? How quickly you forget. But I just thanked Rick, az! Sal
[FairfieldLife] The Koch Brothers Flying Monkey Right Circus
My latest video creation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmOVURsFGUM Enjoy!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
On 02/25/2011 12:26 PM, WillyTex wrote: Bill O'Reilly was absolutely right last night... O'Reilly was also right when he said that your average American worker does not look favorably on union teachers up in Wisconsin that called in sick to go on a protest at the state capital. That's because stupid people don't like smart people. Stupid people want an idiocracy and their kids dumb and sweeping floors. After all it's Kali Yuga ain't it!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:16 PM, WillyTex wrote: blusc0ut: I should ask you, when you saw your mantra in print, was it in Sanskrit devanagari or in english transliteration? What would your reaction have been if it was in Devanagari? There's probably only one single person on this forum that could recognize their bija mantra if it was written in Sanskrit Devangiri. Mantras aren't written properly unless they're written in a mantric variant of Sanskrit. So actually their proper shape is not in Devanagari proper. When they're written properly, they're almost symmetrical. Quite beautiful. In some cases the mantra may be in other mantric alphabets, like Dzongkha, Ladakhi or Sarada (etc.).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
http://dezignus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/islamic-calligraphy.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:16 PM, WillyTex wrote: blusc0ut: I should ask you, when you saw your mantra in print, was it in Sanskrit devanagari or in english transliteration? What would your reaction have been if it was in Devanagari? There's probably only one single person on this forum that could recognize their bija mantra if it was written in Sanskrit Devangiri. Mantras aren't written properly unless they're written in a mantric variant of Sanskrit. So actually their proper shape is not in Devanagari proper. When they're written properly, they're almost symmetrical. Quite beautiful. In some cases the mantra may be in other mantric alphabets, like Dzongkha, Ladakhi or Sarada (etc.).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
right on! Charlie Sheen says: 8. I'm dealing with fools and trolls. I'm dealing with soft targets, and it's just strafing runs in my underwear before my first cup of coffee they lay down with their ugly wives and their ugly children and just look at their loser lives and then they look at me and say, `I can't process it.' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2011 12:26 PM, WillyTex wrote: Bill O'Reilly was absolutely right last night... O'Reilly was also right when he said that your average American worker does not look favorably on union teachers up in Wisconsin that called in sick to go on a protest at the state capital. That's because stupid people don't like smart people. Stupid people want an idiocracy and their kids dumb and sweeping floors. After all it's Kali Yuga ain't it!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
Bill O'Reilly was absolutely right last night... O'Reilly was also right when he said that your average American worker does not look favorably on union teachers up in Wisconsin that called in sick to go on a protest at the state capital. Bhairitu: That's because stupid people don't like smart people... Well, not all union teachers are stupid, but the California voters that let them keep their jobs must be pretty stupid. You'd think that you would be joining a protest for all the high property taxes out there, instead of voting for more benefits and higher pay for stupid teachers that can't do their jobs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
There's probably only one single person on this forum that could recognize their bija mantra if it was written in Sanskrit Devangiri. Mantras aren't written properly unless they're written in a mantric variant of Sanskrit... Bija mantras that are written down are for people that have limited understanding in Kali Yuga. In Buddhist esoteric yoga, you never get a bija mantra from a book or a script. If you do, then the bija is no longer esoteric - it's just a base nonsense syllable made up to impress the people that like to read books. My guru says that bija mantras existed before the invention of writing, but you have to be an initiate to get a real bija mantra. Otherwise you're just a bhogi with a real big pie-hole.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Wiki is all right to start but rarely to finish. Wiki just makes references here to the Vedas and Upanishads. Yes, dala means petal. So are you taking lessons now from Billy? Nope. I am not really interested in the semantics of it all. Sahasradala is just the name a friend had introduced to me at the time. I think he had it from Aurobindo. It's the one which stuck to me. I also like Brahmarandhra. I'm delighted to determine that we are merely mechanical automatons with wheels-a-plenty, leaves on trees and mantras written in fine filigree on the petals of the flowers that cover those trees. I don't really associate any imagery with it. The petals are just symbolic, basically the Sahasrara contains the petals of all the other chakras. So, these are really contained within it. Even better, we can depend upon Vyasa when he describes the fixing on a place (desha-bandha) of the chitta, which must mean what we mean by mind, right? The same for dharana on theheart which is like a downward-pointing lotus flower in the pond at night before the sun arises in the morning. Why ... even the mind can be divided now, at least when doing some of that terribly dangerous japa ... right? Gheez, the mind is all division anyway, it's what it is all about. Hmmm it is just so obvious, is it not? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: FYI ... Sahasra + ara = sahasrÄra or sahasraara sahasra = 1000 ara = a radii or a wheel spoke Therefore ... sahasrÄra or sahasraara literally means a thousand radii or spokes, which was why it was chosen for the crown chakra or wheel. OTOH ... Sahasrada = Yadu had five sons, Sahasrada ... blah blah ... Sahasrada's descendents were the Haihaya-s, among the most famous was Kartyavirya Arjuna. Arjuna's great deeds were his defeat and imprisionment of Ravana, king of Lanka. ** Yes, but its also called sahasradala, as the WP aricle shows: In the Vedas and late Upanishads: Akasha Chakra, Kapalasamputa, Sahasradala, Sahasrara, Sahasrara Kamala (Pankaja or Padma), Sthana, Wyoma, Wyomambuja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahasrara I probably contracted Sahasrara with Sahasradala.
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2011 11:33 AM, azgrey wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 02/25/2011 05:44 AM, jpgillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pallthomas.pall@ wrote: Oh, how I miss the burgers and fries at White Castle. No White Castle outlets in these here parts. There're my daughter's favorite late night snack. But to call them a burger is a stretch in my opinion. They go by slingers, which is a more apt description. Or, more appetizingly still, sliders. (*bellchh*) You mean the sliders fad is still around? I haven't seen them advertised in a while. Jack in the Box did chicken sliders a couple years ago. Of course sliders have been around forever as party snacks. I even remember some being served back in the 1970s at an upscale party. As for White Castle I think the only time I had them was in San Francisco in the late 60s or early 70s and I seem to recall them being onion burgers or cheap beef flavored with onions to hide their not so great flavor. My pittaness shows up with me not liking onions in many things. They can give me an upset stomach. Kind of a long phenomenon to call it a *fad* don't cha think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant) Not White Castle but there was a fad for a while recently of restaurants serving sliders. They were quite popular. Ya sure ya had a White Castle in San Francisco? Perhaps from a box. I know they are an East Coast phenomenon but I'm pretty sure there was one there back around 1969 and it ain't there now. No self-respecting slider would ever contain chicken Bhairitu. You don't know Jack. You got that right. And I never will. There is one in my neighborhood (using the term broadly). The smell, check that, odor I catch as i drive by is boarder-line toxic. I have learned to use it like a bell in a Mindfullness practice. Brings me right into the moment, fully.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:53 PM, azgrey wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:16 PM, FFL PostCount wrote: 79 Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 50 authfriend jstein@ Is this heaven?? No, it's FF Life!!! Judy's out for the rest of the week, with Buck out for the rest of next week. It just doesn't get any better than this. :) I'd like to thank God, and if he/she/it keeps this up I just might have to start believing in him/her/it again. But in this case I'll just thank Rick~~again. Sal What about the enlightened guy Sal? Out of sight out of mind? How quickly you forget. But I just thanked Rick, az! Sal Ooops. Sorry. My bad. I'm glad it brought you closer to God. Almost :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: right on! Charlie Sheen says: 8. I'm dealing with fools and trolls. I'm dealing with soft targets, and it's just strafing runs in my underwear before my first cup of coffee they lay down with their ugly wives and their ugly children and just look at their loser lives and then they look at me and say, `I can't process it.' I love the smell of cocaine and humility in the morning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Technical Question for Alex, Tom, or someone
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Google Adwords has a feature whereby you can prevent people within a specified geographic radius from seeing your ads. It’s called Location Exclusions: If you have a pesky competitor that you do not want to see your ads, consider excluding an X mile radius from their location. There is no guarantee that this will work, as *location* is often based on ISP locations, but it could be an interesting way to hide your ads from your top competitors. The company I’d like to prevent from seeing a client’s ads is ESCROW ASSOCIATES, LLC http://tinyurl.com/63759pd, whose ISP is NuVox Communicationshttp://www.windstreambusiness.com/broadband-phone-service/georgia.html(now Windstream). The visitor IP address was 173.221.194.2. Can you figure out what precise location I should block? Rick, will this start you going in the right directon: http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/static.py?hl=enpage=guide.csguide=23723topic=23727 http://tinyurl.com/6xsfddp
RE: [FairfieldLife] Technical Question for Alex, Tom, or someone
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Pall Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 4:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Technical Question for Alex, Tom, or someone On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Google Adwords has a feature whereby you can prevent people within a specified geographic radius from seeing your ads. It's called Location Exclusions: If you have a pesky competitor that you do not want to see your ads, consider excluding an X mile radius from their location. There is no guarantee that this will work, as location is often based on ISP locations, but it could be an interesting way to hide your ads from your top competitors. The company I'd like to prevent from seeing a client's ads is ESCROW ASSOCIATES, LLC http://tinyurl.com/63759pd , whose ISP is NuVox Communications http://www.windstreambusiness.com/broadband-phone-service/georgia.html (now Windstream). The visitor IP address was 173.221.194.2. Can you figure out what precise location I should block? Rick, will this start you going in the right directon: http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/static.py?hl=en http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/static.py?hl=enpage=guide.csguid e=23723topic=23727 page=guide.csguide=23723topic=23727 http://tinyurl.com/6xsfddp Thanks Tom. Turns out I had done that about a year ago and had forgotten that I had.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Bill O'Reilly: Scott Walker Targeted to Save Obama in 2012
On Feb 25, 2011, at 4:42 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: right on! Charlie Sheen says: 8. I'm dealing with fools and trolls. I'm dealing with soft targets, and it's just strafing runs in my underwear before my first cup of coffee … they lay down with their ugly wives and their ugly children and just look at their loser lives and then they look at me and say, `I can't process it.' I love the smell of cocaine and humility in the morning. Salon has an excellent series of articles on Sheen and his train-wreck of a life. FWIW he's far more entertaining off-camera than on. As long as you don't have to get too close. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Netflixer tip
Carlos is a 3 part miniseries about Carlos the Jackal which I finished watching last night. It's a great miniseries and well worth a watch: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Carlos_Miniseries/70139389
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Jacked In
Over the years, some on this forum, given my...uh... sometimes dismissive nature, have asked me what *does* still get me off, spiritually. This post is intended to address that question. Tonight I synched my review copy of Bruce Cockburn's new album Small Source Of Comfort to my iPhone and then jacked the headphones into my brain and walked around my new home town in the Netherlands on a foggy Friday night, listening to the whole album while doing a kind of self-invented walking meditation. My kinda Nirvana. Some would consider it settling. How, they might say, can he foresake the constant stiving for enlightenment or higher states of consciousness that we live for, and settle for a walk around a sleepy Dutch town at night, doing nothing more spiritual than listening to music? And they've got a point. Yet tonight's walk got me higher than anything I've done in recent months. Go figure. I walked along the canals, reveling in the visuals of houses and trees reflected in the still surface of the water, occasionally broken up and turned into dazzling CGI-enhanced versions of the same houses and trees, as passing ducks stirred the surface of the canal. Although the night was, on the surface, gray, foggy and uninviting to the adventurous, adventure lay around every corner. I saw more drama and mystery and adventure in one short, album-long walk around my town than most folks see on TV in a year. It was like walking through a holo- graphic landscape formed by the intersections of beams of golden light. The night was literally on fire with light. Again, go figure. Then again, much of this effect may be due to moodmaking, and the fact that I actually consider Bruce Cockburn one of my spiritual teachers. I've only met the dude a couple of times, and yet I credit his words and music with shaping my life easily as much as I credit Maharishi or Rama. Go figure. Bruce is Christian. I'm quasi-Buddhist, with a soupçon of Taoism, occultism, atheism, and polypantheism thrown into the pot to add some spice to the dish. And yet. And yet, his ruminations about the Road Trip of his life resonate with the Road Trip of my life, and get me high as a kite. What more could one ask of a musician, or for that matter, a spiritual teacher?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
Here's what seems odd to me. Six weeks ago Tart posted a nice piece about why after all this time we are still discussing these issues. The gist was that it was to revisit the foundations on which we built our adult lives, and to see which of the pillars were solid, and which were shaky. And as I recall you were about the first to respond with an enthusiastic affirmation of this process. So, has the process been completed and now you determine that the work has been done, and henceforth any such efforts constitute a waste of time? Really. You continue to rail against the shallowness of this site, and yet you are the number one contributor in terms of words written. How do you square that? And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's opinions? Is it your objective to poison the site with plain old meanness? When you first came on board, you offered what I guess was a Buddhist perspective. That is long gone. And what is left is just unabridged cynicism, and a lack of tolerance. But maybe everything seems just hunky dory to you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. And everyone can as easily understand that, as usual, when someone says something you don't like, you drop into attack mode. :-) I repeat my contention. No one on planet Earth gives a shit whether what Maharishi said and did was in accord with the laws of nature or not, or whether he was enlightened or not, except for people trying to justify their years (and tens of thousands of dollars) of investment in him. T'would seem you're one of those people, so to you debating the subject endlessly is not boring. To me, it is. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Absolutely. And? Oh. I forgot. You don't like people being able to make comments you don't agree with. :-) Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy your absence and your consequent irrelevance. We? Is that a vajra in your pocket, or are you glad to see me? :-) With all due respect. Uh-huh. :-) I generally ignore anything you say, Empt. Might I suggest you just do the same with what I say? As much as you don't like the fact, I have the right to say anything I want. Here, or elsewhere. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Sweet hideout of denial
http://neosurrealismart.com/modern-art-prints/?artworks/sweet-hideout-of-denial.htmlfullsize
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: You mean the sliders fad is still around? I haven't seen them advertised in a while. Still strong. I think they hit a high mark a few years ago, and the term sliders started showing up on some upscale menus. Yea, onions big time. They really stink up the car. Several months ago, before big homework days, my daughter would go with me in the evening when I had errands. We set a goal for ourselves to try everything on the menu, which we did. Jack in the Box did chicken sliders a couple years ago. Of course sliders have been around forever as party snacks. I even remember some being served back in the 1970s at an upscale party. As for White Castle I think the only time I had them was in San Francisco in the late 60s or early 70s and I seem to recall them being onion burgers or cheap beef flavored with onions to hide their not so great flavor. My pittaness shows up with me not liking onions in many things. They can give me an upset stomach.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Here's what seems odd to me. Six weeks ago Tart posted a nice piece about why after all this time we are still discussing these issues. The gist was that it was to revisit the foundations on which we built our adult lives, and to see which of the pillars were solid, and which were shaky. And as I recall you were about the first to respond with an enthusiastic affirmation of this process. So, has the process been completed and now you determine that the work has been done, and henceforth any such efforts constitute a waste of time? Really. OK, that's a fair criticism. I've had more time to think about this shit than you guys, and I sometimes forget how long it takes to get over believing that you know shit. :-) I guess it is fair to say that I sometimes am taken aback by how *long* it takes people to do a little revisiting of the foundations on which they built their adult lives. Decades seems to me a bit...uh... overlong. You continue to rail against the shallowness of this site... Not true. I rail against the shallowness of some of its denizens, myself included. :-) ...and yet you are the number one contributor in terms of words written. How do you square that? What can I say? I think fast, and type faster. :-) And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's opinions? Is it your objective to poison the site with plain old meanness? Please give explicit examples. My bet is that you can't. It seems to me that the majority of lack of tolerance shown on this forum lately has been aimed primarily at those who don't buy the TM bullsh...uh...I mean Party Line. When you first came on board, you offered what I guess was a Buddhist perspective. Never true. That was merely your perception, or bias. That is long gone. And what is left is just unabridged cynicism, and a lack of tolerance. Again, get fuckin' specific, dude. My bet is that you can't. You have this subjective impression that I've been displaying a lack of tolerance here, but I don't think you can produce an instance of it. Put up or shut up. But maybe everything seems just hunky dory to you. My life is pretty hunky-dory right now. I don't know about anyone else's, or even my own in the future, but I hope for the best, for all concerned. If that is cynical in your view, so be it. Not my problem.
[FairfieldLife] Follow Up On My Own Post
Maybe: My buttons are being pushed. Maybe: I am angry at an opinion being expressed that I don't agree with. Maybe: I resent anyone attacking the TMO. But also, Maybe: Barry has developed a blind spot that prevents him from seeing the rut he has fallen into. Naturally, I think it is the latter Maybe. But I hold out the possibility that it may be the former. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Here's what seems odd to me. Six weeks ago Tart posted a nice piece about why after all this time we are still discussing these issues. The gist was that it was to revisit the foundations on which we built our adult lives, and to see which of the pillars were solid, and which were shaky. And as I recall you were about the first to respond with an enthusiastic affirmation of this process. So, has the process been completed and now you determine that the work has been done, and henceforth any such efforts constitute a waste of time? Really. You continue to rail against the shallowness of this site, and yet you are the number one contributor in terms of words written. How do you square that? And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's opinions? Is it your objective to poison the site with plain old meanness? When you first came on board, you offered what I guess was a Buddhist perspective. That is long gone. And what is left is just unabridged cynicism, and a lack of tolerance. But maybe everything seems just hunky dory to you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. And everyone can as easily understand that, as usual, when someone says something you don't like, you drop into attack mode. :-) I repeat my contention. No one on planet Earth gives a shit whether what Maharishi said and did was in accord with the laws of nature or not, or whether he was enlightened or not, except for people trying to justify their years (and tens of thousands of dollars) of investment in him. T'would seem you're one of those people, so to you debating the subject endlessly is not boring. To me, it is. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Absolutely. And? Oh. I forgot. You don't like people being able to make comments you don't agree with. :-) Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy your absence and your consequent irrelevance. We? Is that a vajra in your pocket, or are you glad to see me? :-) With all due respect. Uh-huh. :-) I generally ignore anything you say, Empt. Might I suggest you just do the same with what I say? As much as you don't like the fact, I have the right to say anything I want. Here, or elsewhere. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Follow Up On My Own Post
Lost Beauty of Disharmony http://neosurrealismart.com/modern-art-prints/?artworks/lost-beauty-of-disharmony.htmlfullsize --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Maybe: My buttons are being pushed. Maybe: I am angry at an opinion being expressed that I don't agree with. Maybe: I resent anyone attacking the TMO. But also, Maybe: Barry has developed a blind spot that prevents him from seeing the rut he has fallen into. Naturally, I think it is the latter Maybe. But I hold out the possibility that it may be the former. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Here's what seems odd to me. Six weeks ago Tart posted a nice piece about why after all this time we are still discussing these issues. The gist was that it was to revisit the foundations on which we built our adult lives, and to see which of the pillars were solid, and which were shaky. And as I recall you were about the first to respond with an enthusiastic affirmation of this process. So, has the process been completed and now you determine that the work has been done, and henceforth any such efforts constitute a waste of time? Really. You continue to rail against the shallowness of this site, and yet you are the number one contributor in terms of words written. How do you square that? And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's opinions? Is it your objective to poison the site with plain old meanness? When you first came on board, you offered what I guess was a Buddhist perspective. That is long gone. And what is left is just unabridged cynicism, and a lack of tolerance. But maybe everything seems just hunky dory to you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: You are bored with being you. Everyone can understand that. And everyone can as easily understand that, as usual, when someone says something you don't like, you drop into attack mode. :-) I repeat my contention. No one on planet Earth gives a shit whether what Maharishi said and did was in accord with the laws of nature or not, or whether he was enlightened or not, except for people trying to justify their years (and tens of thousands of dollars) of investment in him. T'would seem you're one of those people, so to you debating the subject endlessly is not boring. To me, it is. Whether you are bored is not relevant to any conversation between any two people on this forum. Your presence here is just a way to insert your comments without cause. Absolutely. And? Oh. I forgot. You don't like people being able to make comments you don't agree with. :-) Go back to the nothingness of you and enjoy it ... just as we enjoy your absence and your consequent irrelevance. We? Is that a vajra in your pocket, or are you glad to see me? :-) With all due respect. Uh-huh. :-) I generally ignore anything you say, Empt. Might I suggest you just do the same with what I say? As much as you don't like the fact, I have the right to say anything I want. Here, or elsewhere. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: With all due respect, you're back to one of the BORING arguments on FFL. Who, after all, really cares, except for a few people still trying to justify their investment of time, money, and belief for all those years? Maharishi's dead, and it looks as if his movement will be as well in a few years, maybe sooner. No one else on the planet gives a shit.
[FairfieldLife] Real Estate on demand
http://neosurrealismart.com/modern-art-prints/?artworks/morning-fog-or-real-estate-on-demand.htmlfullsize
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: The are doing well at Applebees: http://www.applebees.com/Menu_Sliders.aspx Great for lunch.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: My bet is that you can't. You have this subjective impression that I've been displaying a lack of tolerance here, but I don't think you can produce an instance of it. Put up or shut up. Well, here I am chillin a little after the work week. There is post by Tom asking a question about MMY. Probably some variation of the same question that has been asked a thousand times here. But, it appeared to me, that you lost patience, and decided to berate him for still asking these same stupid questions, being attached to the same stupid notions, and why doesn't he just get over it. That was my take. It seemed mean spirited and intolerant. Maybe I am mistaken. You asked for an example. That was my take.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On 02/25/2011 05:24 PM, Tom Pall wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, seventhray1steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: The are doing well at Applebees: http://www.applebees.com/Menu_Sliders.aspx Great for lunch. I think Trader Joes still has packages of bbq pulled pork sliders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: My bet is that you can't. You have this subjective impression that I've been displaying a lack of tolerance here, but I don't think you can produce an instance of it. Put up or shut up. Well, here I am chillin a little after the work week. There is post by Tom asking a question about MMY. Probably some variation of the same question that has been asked a thousand times here. But, it appeared to me, that you lost patience, and decided to berate him for still asking these same stupid questions, being attached to the same stupid notions, and why doesn't he just get over it. That was my take. It seemed mean spirited and intolerant. Maybe I am mistaken. You are. I merely pointed out that what he considered a still- viable question was no longer even in contention for many of us, and for easily 99% of the sentient beings on this planet. You asked for an example. That was my take. Whatever floats yer boat. I think you're taking a non-personal expression of opinion personally.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
On 02/25/2011 11:33 AM, azgrey wrote: No self-respecting slider would ever contain chicken Bhairitu. Ahem: http://www.whitecastle.com/food/menu Not only chicken but fish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
Chillin after the work week...(I can dig it): http://www.rchen.net/trailer%20trash%202.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: My bet is that you can't. You have this subjective impression that I've been displaying a lack of tolerance here, but I don't think you can produce an instance of it. Put up or shut up. Well, here I am chillin a little after the work week. There is post by Tom asking a question about MMY. Probably some variation of the same question that has been asked a thousand times here. But, it appeared to me, that you lost patience, and decided to berate him for still asking these same stupid questions, being attached to the same stupid notions, and why doesn't he just get over it. That was my take. It seemed mean spirited and intolerant. Maybe I am mistaken. You asked for an example. That was my take.
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Castle
Here's another pic. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4122449408/tt0366551 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2011 11:33 AM, azgrey wrote: No self-respecting slider would ever contain chicken Bhairitu. Ahem: http://www.whitecastle.com/food/menu Not only chicken but fish.
[FairfieldLife] Tourists hunting
Tourists hunting, 1893, Unknown; from Museum Syndicate http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49700.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Edison, Burroughs, and Ford
Th. Edison, writer/conservationist Burroughs, and Henry Ford http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49699.jpg
[FairfieldLife] South Beach alligator farm
Florida, 1910, Unknown: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49693.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Wreck of the Princess May
1910, Alaska: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49653.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Head crushed by railcars
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=49522
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jacked In
Sounds like a great walk - I enjoy popping in the headphones for a walk in the fog, or anywhere - building soundtracks for life is what I call it. I'll have to give Bruce Cockburn another listen, too. I'll sometimes encounter an artist or a movie and dismiss them/it, then I meet someone really into it, and I figure I missed something. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Over the years, some on this forum, given my...uh... sometimes dismissive nature, have asked me what *does* still get me off, spiritually. This post is intended to address that question. Tonight I synched my review copy of Bruce Cockburn's new album Small Source Of Comfort to my iPhone and then jacked the headphones into my brain and walked around my new home town in the Netherlands on a foggy Friday night, listening to the whole album while doing a kind of self-invented walking meditation. My kinda Nirvana. Some would consider it settling. How, they might say, can he foresake the constant stiving for enlightenment or higher states of consciousness that we live for, and settle for a walk around a sleepy Dutch town at night, doing nothing more spiritual than listening to music? And they've got a point. Yet tonight's walk got me higher than anything I've done in recent months. Go figure. I walked along the canals, reveling in the visuals of houses and trees reflected in the still surface of the water, occasionally broken up and turned into dazzling CGI-enhanced versions of the same houses and trees, as passing ducks stirred the surface of the canal. Although the night was, on the surface, gray, foggy and uninviting to the adventurous, adventure lay around every corner. I saw more drama and mystery and adventure in one short, album-long walk around my town than most folks see on TV in a year. It was like walking through a holo- graphic landscape formed by the intersections of beams of golden light. The night was literally on fire with light. Again, go figure. Then again, much of this effect may be due to moodmaking, and the fact that I actually consider Bruce Cockburn one of my spiritual teachers. I've only met the dude a couple of times, and yet I credit his words and music with shaping my life easily as much as I credit Maharishi or Rama. Go figure. Bruce is Christian. I'm quasi-Buddhist, with a soupçon of Taoism, occultism, atheism, and polypantheism thrown into the pot to add some spice to the dish. And yet. And yet, his ruminations about the Road Trip of his life resonate with the Road Trip of my life, and get me high as a kite. What more could one ask of a musician, or for that matter, a spiritual teacher?
[FairfieldLife] The Adjustment Bureau
HA! I knew it...another movie based on a Philip Dick novel. (fate vs free will, Damon character apparently discovers secret doers behind the scenes of ordinary life, adjusting fate here and there). Reminds me of a Twilight Zone about the Blue people (workers in the Twilight Zone dimension working feverishly to engineer events before they occur in our (3-dimensional + time) world. Main character somehow sees some of the Blue People. Can't remember the ending. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1385826/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jacked In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Sounds like a great walk - I enjoy popping in the headphones for a walk in the fog, or anywhere - building soundtracks for life is what I call it. I'll have to give Bruce Cockburn another listen, too. I'll sometimes encounter an artist or a movie and dismiss them/it, then I meet someone really into it, and I figure I missed something. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Over the years, some on this forum, given my...uh... sometimes dismissive nature, have asked me what *does* still get me off, spiritually. This post is intended to address that question. Tonight I synched my review copy of Bruce Cockburn's new album Small Source Of Comfort to my iPhone and then jacked the headphones into my brain and walked around my new home town in the Netherlands on a foggy Friday night, listening to the whole album while doing a kind of self-invented walking meditation. My kinda Nirvana. Some would consider it settling. How, they might say, can he foresake the constant stiving for enlightenment or higher states of consciousness that we live for, and settle for a walk around a sleepy Dutch town at night, doing nothing more spiritual than listening to music? And they've got a point. Yet tonight's walk got me higher than anything I've done in recent months. Go figure. I walked along the canals, reveling in the visuals of houses and trees reflected in the still surface of the water, occasionally broken up and turned into dazzling CGI-enhanced versions of the same houses and trees, as passing ducks stirred the surface of the canal. Although the night was, on the surface, gray, foggy and uninviting to the adventurous, adventure lay around every corner. I saw more drama and mystery and adventure in one short, album-long walk around my town than most folks see on TV in a year. It was like walking through a holo- graphic landscape formed by the intersections of beams of golden light. The night was literally on fire with light. Again, go figure. Then again, much of this effect may be due to moodmaking, and the fact that I actually consider Bruce Cockburn one of my spiritual teachers. I've only met the dude a couple of times, and yet I credit his words and music with shaping my life easily as much as I credit Maharishi or Rama. Go figure. Bruce is Christian. I'm quasi-Buddhist, with a soupçon of Taoism, occultism, atheism, and polypantheism thrown into the pot to add some spice to the dish. And yet. And yet, his ruminations about the Road Trip of his life resonate with the Road Trip of my life, and get me high as a kite. What more could one ask of a musician, or for that matter, a spiritual teacher? This walk is a spiritual experience. A bit panentheistic - the divine permeates everything - the music, the reflections on the pond, whatever you look at, there it is. I get a bit of that walking the dog at night. I can focus on the things I see without all the background stuff, since it is so dark. And when the street lights or moon glitter on the snow and the whole world is silent, I like that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: snip But as I tell you! Why do you call this deragotory 'bit of esoterica'?It's exactly this not understanding and also unwillingness to look at this, which makes it impossible. Whoa there. I didn't say I was unwilling to look at it, only that I didn't have any basis to comment on it. You used an esoteric term, Sahasrada, that I'm not familiar with. I do know what a chakra is. I did a search for Sahasrada chakra and couldn't find anything useful. The search suggested Sahasrara chakra, a different spelling. But nevertheless gives the WP article as first choice. What you say is allright for your first comment, but not for your second - after I had underlined this experience, by using it as the only quote. If you didn't know what it was, you could have simply asked I looked at the Wikipedia article for Sahasrara chakra because I assumed you had just mispelled it, or were using some alternate spelling. That's how I knew it was the crown chakra, as I went on to say. - but never mind, let's finish this quibble. That's the crown chakra. OK, I figured that's what you meant. But you say I may be in the Sahasrada chakra as well. I don't know what I may be in a chakra means, At times, for example while driving. No, I'm asking what it means to be in a chakra. I've never heard that terminology before. Is it the same as having a chakra open? snip Never mind. But I couldn't know that you have never heard the term Sahasrara. It's after all one of the most important chakras. You are meditation and doing siddhis over 30 years, discussing here every week for so many years, why do you not know Sanskrit words of important concepts? I'm not especially interested in chakras, so I never paid much attention to those discussions. I'm sure I've heard the term, it's just not part of my personal vocabulary. I'm more familiar with the English terms for the chakras, never bothered to memorize the Sanskrit ones. And you say I just mention it, as if it weren't that relevant to our discussion. What do you want me to say? I figured if it was important for our discussion that I understand it--rather than a side comment aimed at Vaj or Rory--you'd elaborate. At that point it was a side comment. But when you started to press me, just how my experience was in terms of 'refinement of mantra', you wanted to know my experiences, and here I had just given it to you. As I said, I didn't know it was something you had given to me. snip If you, and only you define the margins of such a discussion, what's the point? That's really not fair at all. The margins of this discussion, on my side, are defined by where my experience and intellectual understanding end. I can't help that. At that point it's up to you to expand the margins of my intellectual understanding, otherwise it's impossible for *me* to continue. Not everything *can* be intellectualy understood. I realize that, as I've noted several times. But as I say, if I haven't had an experience, and you can't expand my intellectual understanding of it, I'm stuck. I'm not defining the margins of the discussion, I'm coming up against my own limitations. I have tried to show you where such limits are, but it seems you like to hold on to these very concepts I'm pointing out as limitations. Can you give me a couple of examples? You (and others here) are making the notion of concepts carry an awful lot of freight. At times it seems as though you (plural) dismiss an idea as just a concept rather than taking a crack at dealing with the idea, or use it as a putdown of the person who mentioned it. snip What I don't get is why you seem to be angry with me that whatever you're talking about isn't my experience and that I told you I couldn't comment on it. The way you put it, with reference to Vaj and Rory and I just mention it, I couldn't even tell if you thought it was relevant to our discussion. I surely was a little thin-skinned in my first reaction. Sorry for that. Thank you. I didn't know that you never had heard the term. I have heard it; it's just not part of my vocabulary. Crown chakra is. In a chakra isn't. I just thought you would push anything away that didn't explicitely match a TM concept. You didn't have any basis for that assumption. I may push it away if it doesn't seem relevant to the immediate discussion, but not because it doesn't match a TM concept. I had tried to talk to you in terms you understand, and brought this in as a side concept, when I realized, there isn't much I could tell you about my experience without making any reference to it. Fact is, I can not have ANY experience, without the involvement of the Sahasrara. OK. snip It's
[FairfieldLife] Hitler taking a walk
With Eva Braun and dog Blondi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_B_145_Bild-F051673-0059,_Adolf_Hitler_und_Eva_Braun_auf_dem_Berghof.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Livin' in the lap o' luxury
Subject: Livin' in the lap o' luxury http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1560972645/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8n=283155s=books
[FairfieldLife] Is this your Guru?
Grigori Rasputin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rasputin_pt.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Corporate crime
http://lib.calpoly.edu/spec_coll/comix/corpcrime2.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's opinions? Is it your objective to poison the site with plain old meanness? Please give explicit examples. My bet is that you can't. It seems to me that the majority of lack of tolerance shown on this forum lately has been aimed primarily at those who don't buy the TM bullsh...uh...I mean Party Line. He can't really believe this, can he? He can't possibly be unaware of his unrelieved poisonous meanness toward those he doesn't like or doesn't agree with, can he? And he can't really believe, in his heart of hearts, that others' lack of tolerance for him is for his views on TM rather than *for him* and his arrogant, rude 'tude. Can he? How can he possibly be so lacking in self-awareness? As to examples, we can start with some of the most recent, the collection of a dozen or so posts nastily mocking determinists. (Which are quite amusing since he doesn't understand what he's attempting to mock and just ends up making a complete idiot of himself.) Barry: It isn't your views on TM. It's you, dude.
[FairfieldLife] Seminole Indian camp
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49689.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Relaxing in the sun
Relaxing in the sun Temple Dog Note: mini aural movie at 0:15 - 0:32. After that its all song - http://www.box.net/shared/g43bdzdep1 copyright jim flanegin
[FairfieldLife] Washing gold
Alaska, 1916 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49651.jpg
[FairfieldLife] V.I. Lenin playing chess
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/1908/002.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyes Wide Open Mantra Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:30 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: When I learned mantra-yoga from others after TM, they taught that ajapa-japa: effortless constant non-repetition mantra repetition 24/7 was the goal of mantra yoga. Really a fine, constant stream of mantra-as-awareness where it is never lost, never forgotten. In other words; no transcendence. Thought so. Actually full transcendence, not stuck in a laya (TM) and merely transcending part of the mind. TM would be kind of an entry level practice prior to mastery of ajapa-japa. It's simply a level of practice not taught in the TM Org. You keep on insisting that TM doesn't get you there, and yet, my observation is that TM is open-ended. The only limits are the ones that YOU insist on imposing... It's really not my limitation, it's the fact that mental methods only cover the mental aspects of a person, and the mental plane is only one part of us. A good teacher explains this about mantra from the get-go. Actually it looks like Mahesh agreed with me. See Blue's comment... I missed his comment, sorry. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: NAMAH OR NAMAHA
Was this in response to my remarks or the others that you quoted? Either way, sounds like somebody struck a nerve... Lawson --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: This is quite funny. Where did you learn to be so funny? MIU? You sound like a parrot for those silly rajas. Did they give you these talking points? You might want to check your sources since your point shows unawareness of MMY's transmission of mantra. This also includes the actual experience of entertaining in attention the mantra-s that MMY gave to initiators. Clarify your meaning if you dispute this. Oh � and stop telling people what to do. Rather, take your bullshit superstitions to your ishta-devataa � that is if you have one and if you know how to do so. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: You have still missed my point: your mantra is the one you remember in your head and use during TM. Mantras that you teach are the ones that you were given on a piece of paper. If you insist on saying that is my mantra, on that piece of paper, then you have frozen your mantra to be the same as what is on the piece of paper. It may or may not be the same, but there is no longer as great an opportunity for it to change (or not change) since you have frozen it to the paper. Your innocence has been lessened. Its inevitable for TM teachers to have that problem, but given that you are insisting that the mantra on paper is the same one as in your head, it seems to me that your innocence has been lessened more than usual, which could help explain why you (and so many others on this forum) are more interested in knocking TM than in practicing it. This makes sense to me at least, since you no feel that you were fed a bill of goods, and you're angry about being taken in by it so you must detract from what you were originally taught at every possibility. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: NAMAH OR NAMAHA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: The most important secret: don't say this stuff out loud if you plan on using it in TM practice. And reading it is probably kinda silly as well... Lawson, Can you please explain to us why you believe this? Thanks in advance. Well, short answer, it was what I was taught and that it was an important issue. Slightly longer answer: over the years I notice, as has Judy, that when I encounter a non-mental version of my mantra, I tend to feel a tad disconcerted. This could obviously be a result of my emotional trauma with being off-program and no doubt, that is part of it. At least you can admit this as a possibility; I doubt seriously that she can. However, as one non-meditating researcher commented, it is possible that the fact that the mantra becomes special and only encountered [regularly] during TM practice, gives it a special signal value that facilitates its use in the meditation context. It's not a thing you encounter in your everyday life, so when you DO encounter it (in the context of meditation), it helps make the process more automatic. That's an interesting rationalization, but I think even you will have to agree that it's a rationalization...for doing what you were told to do. So why would the non-meditating researcher feel a need to rationalize what *I* was taught? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I merely pointed out that what he considered a still- viable question was no longer even in contention for many of us, and for easily 99% of the sentient beings on this planet. That's fine, but a lot of what we discuss here would meet the above criteria and yet we manage to show what I would consider a modicum of respect for others opinion. I felt that was lacking in your response. You feel otherwise, or maybe you just have a different way of interacting. So be it.
