[FairfieldLife] The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread martin.quickman
This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all 
sorrow and suffering.

http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... 
wrote:

 This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
 freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
 
 http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/

Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
Mantra is required:

Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.

Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
some still revere Maharishi. 






[FairfieldLife] The Global Country

2012-12-06 Thread Buck
The domain of the Global Country of World Peace is CONSCIOUSNESS—the prime 
mover of life—the ground state of natural law, the field of all possibilities. 
The Global Country of World Peace is a non-political, non-religious global 
organization and does not usurp any of the functions of existing governments, 
nor does it replace them in any way.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread Buck


With Heaven on Earth, every nation will spontaneously radiate a nourishing 
influence to neighboring nations, and the whole family of nations will 
naturally enjoy harmony and real freedom.  
 
 With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of 
 every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation. 
  
  With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by victory 
  before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- because 
  everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and as a result, 
  coherence in every country will be so strong that invincibility will be a 
  natural feature of national life.  No negativity will arise and no enemy 
  will be born for any nation.
   
   Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by 
   indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of collective 
   life -family, community, nation, and the world.  Heaven on Earth will 
   also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the life of the 
   individual and society.

Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by 
perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly fulfill 
one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, and 
nourishing environment. 
 
 Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven on 
 Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and non-good 
 nowhere – beautiful sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment for everyone 
 always and everywhere.
  
  With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by 
  self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do anything, and 
  accomplish anything.
   
With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by 
   perfection, complete balance and integration.  Fulfillment will 
   prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, 
   intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic.

Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of life 
everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and suffering 
is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world enjoys real 
freedom in bliss and fulfillment.  This Heaven on Earth is now 
going to be real for everyone and every nation.

 Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of the 
 wise throughout the ages.  Creation of Heaven on Earth is the 
 most desirable project in the entire history of the human 
 race.  Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on Earth through perfect 
 alliance with Natural Law, through the enlivenment of the 
 total potential of Natural Law in one's own consciousness.

   
  
 

   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-12-2012

2012-12-06 Thread Buck
Tanks on streets of Egypt Capital.
The Egyptian army has deployed tanks and armoured troop carriers outside the 
presidential palace in Cairo after clashes between supporters and opponents of 
President Mohammed Morsi left five dead and hundreds injured.

 
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   Gaza missiles fired at Tel Aviv
   
   Militants target Tel Aviv with missiles fired from the 
   Gaza Strip, while Israel authorizes the call-up of 30,000 
   reservists.
   
Israel calls up army reservists.
  
  Update: Egypt's leaders promise to support Gaza against Israeli 
  attacks, as Tel Aviv is targeted by Gaza militants for a second day.
 

Now today: Militant's rocket targets Jerusalem.
Hamas militants launch a rocket towards Jerusalem - the first time the 
city has been targeted from Gaza - as Egypt vows to back Gaza.
   
   
   The firing on Thursday of two Fajr-5 missiles from Gaza towards Tel Aviv, 
   followed on Friday by the targeting of Jerusalem with an as yet 
   unidentified rocket type, is a potent sign of altered strategic realities 
   in the Middle East.
  
  
  Israel puts 75,000 reservists on stand-by and vows to intensify its Gaza 
  raids after militants target Jerusalem for the first time in decades.
 
 
 It is time to take light over the trenches of dark ignorance.
 
  
  The time has come to Mobilize for collective coherence. 
  Friends, in pursuit of a lasting peace on earth we are 
  moving forward with bringing light to darkness. Do not 
  abandon the Field. Nay rather come sit up, meditate and 
  radiate that coherence so evident in the Unified Field with 
  us all. We're all in this together. 
 
 
 In Fairfield we go in meditating at dawn's nautical twilight and at sun's 
 set. Be there with us.
 
   
   We are humbled by the success of our work here within the 
   unmanifest during the recent election campaign. We are grateful 
   to all those who answered the call and sat up in their 
   meditations with us.  
   
   Now for our families, our partners, our friends and all that we 
   hold
  dear take courage, waver not and we'll have the victory of 
  a heaven on earth before there need be any more war. It is 
  time. 
  Our meditation and our science are great. The experience we 
  have of the Unified Field is unbounded.  We are going 
  forward to lay claim on a New Jerusalem here on earth. 
  Om Jerusalem! Om Zion! That Heavenly City of Peace on Earth 
  will be ours. We cannot give up now or give up on the fight 
  along the way now. We have come Too far to let our hearts 
  or light grow faint. We need you to come meditate to help 
  us all. It is for the grace of the Unified Field we now 
  fight. This is what we meditate for. Come make this one 
  stand and be with us in meditation to move this light 
  forward. Fire up now and git ready to go, come and Be with 
  us in
  meditation. The Dome Doors open at 7am and 4pm again. 
  Everyday.
  -Buck in the Dome
 


Nor run from the dark foe of ignorance but Sit firmly upright 
and meditate with us now.  Now For Heaven on Earth, HOE.  Peace 
on Earth, POE.  It is time again to come to meditation.
   
  
 
 It is time again to meditate.  
 Shirkers can expect that their personal backjacks, pillows, blankets 
 and effects will be immediately removed from the Domes and then taken 
 to Goodwill or the Bargain Box to be sold for the common good to make 
 way for active duty meditators coming in to meditate in their places 
 in the Domes during this mobilization.

   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-12-2012

2012-12-06 Thread Buck

12.6.2012 General Orders: Friends our campaigning is not over, as meditators we 
will move forward from here.  A laying-down rest is not to be taken now but sit 
up and take watch in restful alertness and consolidate what gains we have made, 
secure our lines of supply, concentrate support of all our allies and all the 
laws of Nature in to our ranks.  Together we will be moving forward in 
consciousness.  Plan now on when you are going to do your next meditation.  Set 
a time in your day now in synchrony with the whole group.  Picket against that 
sin that will draw and take you away from the group and skirmish aggressively 
against the counter-attack of all that is spiritually ignorant in the 
nay-sayer's sap.  Attend to the group and meditate with discipline.  Now is not 
the time to sleep.  Stay alert and stay close.  This we ask of you and all will 
be taken care of,
-Buck in the Dome 


 Tanks on streets of Egypt Capital.
 The Egyptian army has deployed tanks and armoured troop carriers outside the 
 presidential palace in Cairo after clashes between supporters and opponents 
 of President Mohammed Morsi left five dead and hundreds injured.
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:
  
   
   
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Gaza missiles fired at Tel Aviv

Militants target Tel Aviv with missiles fired from the 
Gaza Strip, while Israel authorizes the call-up of 
30,000 reservists.

 Israel calls up army reservists.
   
   Update: Egypt's leaders promise to support Gaza against Israeli 
   attacks, as Tel Aviv is targeted by Gaza militants for a second 
   day.
  
 
 Now today: Militant's rocket targets Jerusalem.
 Hamas militants launch a rocket towards Jerusalem - the first time 
 the city has been targeted from Gaza - as Egypt vows to back Gaza.


The firing on Thursday of two Fajr-5 missiles from Gaza towards Tel 
Aviv, followed on Friday by the targeting of Jerusalem with an as yet 
unidentified rocket type, is a potent sign of altered strategic 
realities in the Middle East.
   
   
   Israel puts 75,000 reservists on stand-by and vows to intensify its Gaza 
   raids after militants target Jerusalem for the first time in decades.
  
  
  It is time to take light over the trenches of dark 
  ignorance.
  
   
   The time has come to Mobilize for collective coherence. 
   Friends, in pursuit of a lasting peace on earth we are 
   moving forward with bringing light to darkness. Do not 
   abandon the Field. Nay rather come sit up, meditate and 
   radiate that coherence so evident in the Unified Field 
   with us all. We're all in this together. 
  
  
  In Fairfield we go in meditating at dawn's nautical twilight and at sun's 
  set. Be there with us.
  

We are humbled by the success of our work here within the 
unmanifest during the recent election campaign. We are grateful 
to all those who answered the call and sat up in their 
meditations with us.  

Now for our families, our partners, our friends and all that we 
hold
   dear take courage, waver not and we'll have the victory 
   of a heaven on earth before there need be any more war. 
   It is time. 
   Our meditation and our science are great. The experience 
   we have of the Unified Field is unbounded.  We are going 
   forward to lay claim on a New Jerusalem here on earth. 
   Om Jerusalem! Om Zion! That Heavenly City of Peace on 
   Earth will be ours. We cannot give up now or give up on 
   the fight along the way now. We have come Too far to let 
   our hearts or light grow faint. We need you to come 
   meditate to help us all. It is for the grace of the 
   Unified Field we now fight. This is what we meditate for. 
   Come make this one stand and be with us in meditation to 
   move this light forward. Fire up now and git ready to go, 
   come and Be with us in
   meditation. The Dome Doors open at 7am and 4pm again. 
   Everyday.
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-12-2012

2012-12-06 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 12.6.2012 General Orders: Friends our campaigning is not over, as meditators 
 we will move forward from here.  A laying-down rest is not to be taken now 
 but sit up and take watch in restful alertness and consolidate what gains we 
 have made, secure our lines of supply, concentrate support of all our allies 
 and all the laws of Nature in to our ranks.  Together we will be moving 
 forward in consciousness.  Plan now on when you are going to do your next 
 meditation.  Set a time in your day now in synchrony with the whole group.  
 Picket against that sin that will draw and take you away from the group and 
 skirmish aggressively against the counter-attack of all that is spiritually 
 ignorant in the nay-sayer's sap.  Attend to the group and meditate with 
 discipline.  Now is not the time to sleep.  Stay alert and stay close.  This 
 we ask of you and all will be taken care of,
 -Buck in the Dome 

Never in the unified field of human conflict has so little
been owed to so few by so many who didn't even notice.

Keep it up Buck, Churchill also said that Success consists of 
going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.






  Tanks on streets of Egypt Capital.
  The Egyptian army has deployed tanks and armoured troop carriers outside 
  the presidential palace in Cairo after clashes between supporters and 
  opponents of President Mohammed Morsi left five dead and hundreds injured.
  
   
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 Gaza missiles fired at Tel Aviv
 
 Militants target Tel Aviv with missiles fired from 
 the Gaza Strip, while Israel authorizes the call-up 
 of 30,000 reservists.
 
  Israel calls up army reservists.

Update: Egypt's leaders promise to support Gaza against Israeli 
attacks, as Tel Aviv is targeted by Gaza militants for a second 
day.
   
  
  Now today: Militant's rocket targets Jerusalem.
  Hamas militants launch a rocket towards Jerusalem - the first time 
  the city has been targeted from Gaza - as Egypt vows to back Gaza.
 
 
 The firing on Thursday of two Fajr-5 missiles from Gaza towards Tel 
 Aviv, followed on Friday by the targeting of Jerusalem with an as yet 
 unidentified rocket type, is a potent sign of altered strategic 
 realities in the Middle East.


Israel puts 75,000 reservists on stand-by and vows to intensify its 
Gaza raids after militants target Jerusalem for the first time in 
decades.
   
   
   It is time to take light over the trenches of dark 
   ignorance.
   

The time has come to Mobilize for collective coherence. 
Friends, in pursuit of a lasting peace on earth we are 
moving forward with bringing light to darkness. Do not 
abandon the Field. Nay rather come sit up, meditate and 
radiate that coherence so evident in the Unified Field 
with us all. We're all in this together. 
   
   
   In Fairfield we go in meditating at dawn's nautical twilight and at sun's 
   set. Be there with us.
   
 
 We are humbled by the success of our work here within the 
 unmanifest during the recent election campaign. We are 
 grateful to all those who answered the call and sat up in 
 their meditations with us.  
 
 Now for our families, our partners, our friends and all that 
 we hold
dear take courage, waver not and we'll have the victory 
of a heaven on earth before there need be any more war. 
It is time. 
Our meditation and our science are great. The 
experience we have of the Unified Field is unbounded.  
We are going forward to lay claim on a New Jerusalem 
here on earth. 
Om Jerusalem! Om Zion! That Heavenly City of Peace on 
Earth will be ours. We cannot give up now or give up on 
the fight along the way now. We have come Too far to 
let our 

[FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks

2012-12-06 Thread Alex Stanley
I find the TM mantra works great for pee shyness during those rare times when I 
have to use a public bathroom.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 Hey, Doc. This is the first time I heard of anyone other than me say they use 
 the TM mantra to get rid of hiccups. It's something I discovered as a new 
 meditator. I rarely get hiccups but when I do, it works rather quickly.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  and sometimes it is not noise at all - though whatever it is, as you say, 
  it can be transcended easily, just as I got rid of my hiccups last night - 
  lol - used the [TM] mantra to drop below the impulse causing them, and 
  that, as they say, was that. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
I sometimes have favorite pieces of music playing internally
during TMSP. It doesn't bother me at all.
   
   Just another thought.
   
   snip
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  Those of a non-Tantric disposition or those who are 
  convinced that one can only meditate in silence may
  not be able to get this
   
   Noise is no barrier to meditation.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 I find the TM mantra works great for pee shyness during 
 those rare times when I have to use a public bathroom.

TMI. Definitely TMI. 

:-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks

2012-12-06 Thread Share Long
John, I'm not so good with the high tech stuff so can't explain why that 
happened.  But you can go to youtube, search on Year of Living Dangerously and 
click on the trailer.  For Galaxy Quest, same, and the segment I posted was 
Part 7.  

BTW, I'm still enjoying God's little jest of making Hef a VIRGO ascendent.  
Virgo means virgin!  Can you say something about placement etc. of his 
Mercury?  Also that would put Pisces on his 7th house of marriage, thus ruled 
by Jupiter.  And we know Jupiter indicates abundance (-:

I liked your quip about Ashley Judd being prettier than whatshisname (-:




 From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks
 

  
Share,

I couldn't click on your link. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Realized recently that some of my favorite musical pieces are the original 
 soundtracks of movies.  For example, Year of Living Dangerously, the 
 fantastic soundtrack by Vangelis begins on this trailer when Sigourney Weaver 
 appears.  
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2k9d0c4sAM



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

2012-12-06 Thread Share Long
feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to survive 
living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over their 
shoulder.

In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
days, women fight dirty.  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect 
the young because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe 
were off hunting or warring.

Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare Buck 
who makes me smile just about every single day (-:    




 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 Wonderful performances.
 
 That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
 thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
 by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
 that is.
 
 Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
 heart out but also put a grenade under your
 body to greet anyone rolling you over.

I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
 wrote:
 
  Three Netrebko videos...
 
  Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
  (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
  need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
  nicely.)
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
 
 
  Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
  (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
 interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
  ability.)
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
 
 
  Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
  (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
  production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
  and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
  scene, over 10 minutes.)
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
  
   Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
  
   But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
  
   Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
   Renee Fleming in post #328213.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
   have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
 wrote:


 Oh yeah?

 Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
 but
   ...
 it also is so hot.

 No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
 kiss.
   But
 it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved
 it.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@
 wrote:
 
  Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
   female
 opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
 this
 regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
   clip,
 especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
   malfunction,
 which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
 strap):
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria
 is
   good
 too.)
 
 
  My favorite Cecilia is this:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
  It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an
   encore.
 It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
 still
   while
 they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her
 face
   when
 she is finished.
 
  Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would
   love to
 have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful
   though.
 
  Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of
 Clemenza di
 Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
   wrote:
  
  
   Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna
 Netrebko,
 sing
   the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt
 that
   they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give
   song.
   No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
  
   Also,
  
  
   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks to LaughingG and Salya

2012-12-06 Thread Share Long
thanks, laughingG, that is better quality though not so PG in case of lurking 
youngsters (-:
I agree Linda Hunt is amazing as Billy Kwan in what is still one of my favorite 
movies along with another of Weir's, Witness.

Those aliens in Galaxy Quest!  So sweet!  And I also love how the writers 
incorporated the teenage fans into the story line.  Ingenious screenplay IMHO.

Salya, I agree about Alan Rickman.  Is there any kind of role the man cannot 
play?!  Not that I'm an expert, but I think his range is pretty darn good.




 From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks
 

  
I agree Share on that piece of music from Year of Living Dangerously. 
Hauntingly beautiful, to say the least. And Linda Hunt...WOW! Here's a better 
clip where the music comes through loud and clear:

http://youtu.be/vsBOxDM_Vek

Thanks for the reminder...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Realized recently that some of my favorite musical pieces are the original 
 soundtracks of movies.  For example, Year of Living Dangerously, the 
 fantastic soundtrack by Vangelis begins on this trailer when Sigourney Weaver 
 appears.  
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2k9d0c4sAM



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks

2012-12-06 Thread doctordumbass
Perhaps an extra glass of water too?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 I find the TM mantra works great for pee shyness during those rare times when 
 I have to use a public bathroom.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Hey, Doc. This is the first time I heard of anyone other than me say they 
  use the TM mantra to get rid of hiccups. It's something I discovered as a 
  new meditator. I rarely get hiccups but when I do, it works rather quickly.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   and sometimes it is not noise at all - though whatever it is, as you say, 
   it can be transcended easily, just as I got rid of my hiccups last night 
   - lol - used the [TM] mantra to drop below the impulse causing them, and 
   that, as they say, was that. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

 I sometimes have favorite pieces of music playing internally
 during TMSP. It doesn't bother me at all.

Just another thought.

snip
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   Those of a non-Tantric disposition or those who are 
   convinced that one can only meditate in silence may
   not be able to get this

Noise is no barrier to meditation.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread seekliberation
Did you cut, copy and paste all the points below?  Cause seriously, if those 
ideas are coming off the top of your head, you are basically choosing to 
believe in a doctrine that believes all of a sudden Planet Earth is going to 
turn into a Disney cartoon overnight in our lifetime somehow.  

Best wishes to you though.your enthusiasm is admirable.   

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
 With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of 
 every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation.  
  
  With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by victory 
  before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- because 
  everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and as a result, 
  coherence in every country will be so strong that invincibility will be a 
  natural feature of national life.  No negativity will arise and no enemy 
  will be born for any nation.
   
   Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by 
   indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of collective 
   life -family, community, nation, and the world.  Heaven on Earth will 
   also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the life of the 
   individual and society.

Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by 
perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly fulfill 
one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, and 
nourishing environment. 
 
 Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven on 
 Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and non-good 
 nowhere – beautiful sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment for everyone 
 always and everywhere.
  
  With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by 
  self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do anything, and 
  accomplish anything.
   
With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by 
   perfection, complete balance and integration.  Fulfillment will 
   prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, 
   intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic.

Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of life 
everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and suffering 
is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world enjoys real 
freedom in bliss and fulfillment.  This Heaven on Earth is now 
going to be real for everyone and every nation.

 Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of the 
 wise throughout the ages.  Creation of Heaven on Earth is the 
 most desirable project in the entire history of the human 
 race.  Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on Earth through perfect 
 alliance with Natural Law, through the enlivenment of the 
 total potential of Natural Law in one's own consciousness.

   
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 I find the TM mantra works great for pee shyness during those rare times when 
 I have to use a public bathroom.

OK, this could start to get funnier and funnier. Let's see where this goes from 
here! Next, anyone?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Hey, Doc. This is the first time I heard of anyone other than me say they 
  use the TM mantra to get rid of hiccups. It's something I discovered as a 
  new meditator. I rarely get hiccups but when I do, it works rather quickly.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   and sometimes it is not noise at all - though whatever it is, as you say, 
   it can be transcended easily, just as I got rid of my hiccups last night 
   - lol - used the [TM] mantra to drop below the impulse causing them, and 
   that, as they say, was that. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

 I sometimes have favorite pieces of music playing internally
 during TMSP. It doesn't bother me at all.

Just another thought.

snip
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   Those of a non-Tantric disposition or those who are 
   convinced that one can only meditate in silence may
   not be able to get this

Noise is no barrier to meditation.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
Right. In this case, though, since the woman in question
goes insane, murders the man she has just married, and
then dies herself, not only are there no young to be
protected, there never *will* be any young to be
protected by her dirty fighting.

It's always a good idea to view a video before one 
comments on it, lest one make a complete fool of oneself.
(Although the words mad scene should perhaps have been
a clue...)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
 healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
 survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over 
 their shoulder.
 
 In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
 days, women fight dirty.  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect 
 the young because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe 
 were off hunting or warring.
 
 Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
 language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
 Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:    
 
 
 
 
  From: feste37 feste37@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
  Wonderful performances.
  
  That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
  thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
  by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
  that is.
  
  Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
  heart out but also put a grenade under your
  body to greet anyone rolling you over.
 
 I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
  wrote:
  
   Three Netrebko videos...
  
   Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
   (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
   need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
   nicely.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
  
  
   Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
   (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
  interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
   ability.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
  
  
   Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
   (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
   production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
   and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
   scene, over 10 minutes.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
   
   
Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
   
But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
   
Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
Renee Fleming in post #328213.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
  wrote:
 
 
  Oh yeah?
 
  Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
  but
...
  it also is so hot.
 
  No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
  kiss.
But
  it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved
  it.
 
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@
  wrote:
  
   Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
female
  opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
  this
  regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
clip,
  especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
malfunction,
  which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
  strap):
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria
  is
good
  too.)
  
  
   My favorite Cecilia is this:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
   It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an
encore.
  It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
  still
while
  they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her
  face
when
  she is finished.
  
   Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would
love to
  have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
 healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
 survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over 
 their shoulder.
 
 In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
 days, women fight dirty.

And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case the 
man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because women 
are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to rely on 
their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by when 
physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from a 
predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and 
creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well 
as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics 
into one descriptive word like dirty is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a 
negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite 
sex.

  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we were 
the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or warring.

We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been present.
 
 Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
 language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
 Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   

Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. Can 
you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? Now 
ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. If you 
find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just weren't 
enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar.
 
 
 
 
  From: feste37 feste37@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
  Wonderful performances.
  
  That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
  thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
  by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
  that is.
  
  Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
  heart out but also put a grenade under your
  body to greet anyone rolling you over.
 
 I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
  wrote:
  
   Three Netrebko videos...
  
   Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
   (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
   need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
   nicely.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
  
  
   Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
   (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
  interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
   ability.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
  
  
   Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
   (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
   production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
   and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
   scene, over 10 minutes.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
   
   
Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
   
But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
   
Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
Renee Fleming in post #328213.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
  wrote:
 
 
  Oh yeah?
 
  Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
  but
...
  it also is so hot.
 
  No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
  kiss.
But
  it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved
  it.
 
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@
  wrote:
  
   Nice, but not enough cleavage, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
And if they were cut and pasted, that means someone in the TMO believes Earth 
will go Walt Disney? Horrors! We can't say that! Maybe it will be more like a 
Norman Rockwell painting. I sort of admire Buck's enthusiasm too - the shots 
people (including me) have taken at him here on FFL are like water off a duck's 
back.





 From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
 

  
Did you cut, copy and paste all the points below?  Cause seriously, if those 
ideas are coming off the top of your head, you are basically choosing to 
believe in a doctrine that believes all of a sudden Planet Earth is going to 
turn into a Disney cartoon overnight in our lifetime somehow. 

Best wishes to you though.your enthusiasm is admirable. 

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of 
 every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation. 
  
  With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by victory 
  before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- because 
  everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and as a result, 
  coherence in every country will be so strong that invincibility will be a 
  natural feature of national life.  No negativity will arise and no enemy 
  will be born for any nation.
   
   Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by 
   indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of collective 
   life -family, community, nation, and the world.  Heaven on Earth will 
   also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the life of the 
   individual and society.

Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by 
perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly fulfill 
one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, and 
nourishing environment. 
 
 Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven on 
 Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and non-good 
 nowhere – beautiful sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment for everyone 
 always and everywhere.
  
  With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by 
  self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do anything, and 
  accomplish anything.
   
With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by 
   perfection, complete balance and integration.  Fulfillment will 
   prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, 
   intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic.

Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of life 
everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and suffering 
is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world enjoys real 
freedom in bliss and fulfillment.  This Heaven on Earth is now 
going to be real for everyone and every nation.

 Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of the 
 wise throughout the ages.  Creation of Heaven on Earth is the 
 most desirable project in the entire history of the human 
 race.  Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on Earth through perfect 
 alliance with Natural Law, through the enlivenment of the 
 total potential of Natural Law in one's own consciousness.

   
  
 

   
  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman
martin.quickman@... wrote:

 This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from
all sorrow and suffering.


http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meani\
ng-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-mean\
ing-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/


Nice, thanks for posting ! This is what Benjamin Creme has to say about
Sai Baba:

The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The Christ is a planetary
avatar, Sai Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a Spiritual Regent, sent into
the world by the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara, on Shamballa. A regent
stands in for the king. Similarly, a Spiritual Regent stands in for
God, for the Logos, Whose reflection Sanat Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies
the energy of Love at a cosmic level (the Christ embodies this energy at
the planetary level) and his work, in part, is to prepare humanity for
the work of the Christ. By awakening the love principle in humanity, Sai
Baba will prepare people for the Initiatory work of the Christ. As the
Hierophant, the Initiator, at the first two planetary initiations, the
Christ will lead humanity gradually out of the strictly human kingdom
into the Hierarchy, the Kingdom of Souls, or the Kingdom of God. That is
his major work in the coming age of Aquarius. These two Great Ones work
together in daily contact, complete harmony and shared purpose in the
evolution of mankind.



[FairfieldLife] More London

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater
Well, typical of my older sister, she has also sent me a link to some unusual 
and socially conscious walking tours of London. Forget the Tower, Buckingham 
Palace or even Shakespeare's London here is a really cool alternative and one I 
look forward to participating in:

http://sockmobevents.org.uk/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2012-12-06 Thread feste37


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   That's a good summary.
  
  Thanks.  It is interesting that you responded first to this.  I actually 
  was thinking of asking you to help me edit this particular paper for this 
  particular scholarly audience.  I pushed ahead anyway and they seem quite 
  pleased with this as an entry in to the subject of TM and Fairfield for 
  discussion. -Buck  
  
   But if the scholars didn't know about TM and Fairfield, I'd be interested 
   in knowing what were the Utopian/spiritual/intentional/communal groups 
   that they did discuss, especially those currently in existence. Where are 
   these groups located? Who are they?
  
 
 At the meeting were specialists in different communal groups and aspects of 
 different groups.  Oneida, Harmonists, Amana, Shakers, Icarians, Mormons, 
 Synanon, new religions and contemporary religious and secular communities, 
 Camphill, the Twelve Tribes, City of David, Kibitz, and some other particular 
 contemporary cloistered groups had papers delivered about them. There was a 
 paper given considering quantitative measurement of the notion of  
 sustainability in communal groups using a contemporary 'intentional 
 community' group that is just to our south over the border in Missouri, the 
 intentional community of Dancing Rabbit.  The conference had papers on many 
 different aspects of utopian community.  Sociologists, anthropologists, 
 ethno-musicologists, economists, religious studies, and historians.  The 
 meeting was all extremely interesting as a communal comparison for our own 
 group.  It's a meeting of an old scholarly association and the meeting was 
 very professionally and well done.  This was the second year I've attended as 
 someone coming from (meditating) Fairfield. 
 -Buck

Thanks. I'm very curious about Dancing Rabbit. Who are they?

 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:
   
I wrote this piece below and have been e-mailing individually to a 
number of scholarly folks who I met at an academic meeting studying 
Utopian and communal groups that I attended recently out in upstate New 
York.  I came away with about 50 business cards from scholars who I met 
and talked with at the conference.    I wrote this to be able to send 
to them something descriptive about (meditating) Fairfield, Iowa as a 
'communal' group.  Of course what I set out to write became longer than 
I intended.  Here is the unabridged version with the links.  I hope 
you'll like the Shaker comparison and I think you'll appreciate the 
links. 
Best Regards from Iowa,  
paste:

Communal (Meditating) Fairfield, Iowa

On returning home from the annual meeting I find myself wanting to 
catch up by sharing some links on 'communal' Fairfield, Iowa with you 
that might better give insight in to a scale and circumstance of the 
communal society I come from and have lived in for 40 years.  Starting 
from the outside looking in on meditating Fairfield it can seem like 
looking at a monolith.  Evidently it is easy to make assumptions about 
Fairfield and its meditators as it is also  tough to discern what is 
going on inside the meditating community.  But it need not be difficult 
at all once there are handles on it.  The Fairfield meditating 
community has matured in time and is quite developed with many communal 
features to find and look at.  I see Fairfield, Iowa in fact can 
provide a large and living laboratory for communal community scholars 
to look at. 

Beginning with Tim Miller's Communal Societies Vol. 30 No.1, 2010 paper 
in mind I'll give you some things further below to look at for 
yourselves,

 A Matter of Definition: Just What Is an Intentional Community?

-A sense of purpose and distinctiveness, with deliberate intent to be a 
community
-Some kind of shared living space
-Some shared resources
-Critical mass

For communal studies scholars looking in I believe one of the best ways 
to understand the scale of the Fairfield Meditating community is to 
relate to it in a form like the old Shaker villages as organizational 
structure back while the Shakers were up and running.  In the middle of 
 TM is the equivalent of a Shaker 'Ministry Family' of upper 
administration and then elements of communal families of meditators 
that are in concentric circles around the middle including meditators 
who live well outside the middle in town but come inside to meditate 
also as members.  The upper level is a more exclusive level (only for 
sake of an analogy though, they do not use that term 'ministry' to 
describe themselves) which currently now tends to live more 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
That's a good summary.
   
   Thanks.  It is interesting that you responded first to this.  I actually 
   was thinking of asking you to help me edit this particular paper for this 
   particular scholarly audience.  I pushed ahead anyway and they seem quite 
   pleased with this as an entry in to the subject of TM and Fairfield for 
   discussion. -Buck  
   
But if the scholars didn't know about TM and Fairfield, I'd be 
interested in knowing what were the 
Utopian/spiritual/intentional/communal groups that they did discuss, 
especially those currently in existence. Where are these groups 
located? Who are they?
http://www.dancingrabbit.org/


   
  
  At the meeting were specialists in different communal groups and aspects of 
  different groups.  Oneida, Harmonists, Amana, Shakers, Icarians, Mormons, 
  Synanon, new religions and contemporary religious and secular communities, 
  Camphill, the Twelve Tribes, City of David, Kibitz, and some other 
  particular contemporary cloistered groups had papers delivered about them. 
  There was a paper given considering quantitative measurement of the notion 
  of  sustainability in communal groups using a contemporary 'intentional 
  community' group that is just to our south over the border in Missouri, the 
  intentional community of Dancing Rabbit.  The conference had papers on many 
  different aspects of utopian community.  Sociologists, anthropologists, 
  ethno-musicologists, economists, religious studies, and historians.  The 
  meeting was all extremely interesting as a communal comparison for our own 
  group.  It's a meeting of an old scholarly association and the meeting was 
  very professionally and well done.  This was the second year I've attended 
  as someone coming from (meditating) Fairfield. 
  -Buck
 
 Thanks. I'm very curious about Dancing Rabbit. Who are they?
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 I wrote this piece below and have been e-mailing individually to a 
 number of scholarly folks who I met at an academic meeting studying 
 Utopian and communal groups that I attended recently out in upstate 
 New York.  I came away with about 50 business cards from scholars who 
 I met and talked with at the conference.    I wrote this to be able 
 to send to them something descriptive about (meditating) Fairfield, 
 Iowa as a 'communal' group.  Of course what I set out to write became 
 longer than I intended.  Here is the unabridged version with the 
 links.  I hope you'll like the Shaker comparison and I think you'll 
 appreciate the links. 
 Best Regards from Iowa,  
 paste:
 
 Communal (Meditating) Fairfield, Iowa
 
 On returning home from the annual meeting I find myself wanting to 
 catch up by sharing some links on 'communal' Fairfield, Iowa with you 
 that might better give insight in to a scale and circumstance of the 
 communal society I come from and have lived in for 40 years.  
 Starting from the outside looking in on meditating Fairfield it can 
 seem like looking at a monolith.  Evidently it is easy to make 
 assumptions about Fairfield and its meditators as it is also  tough 
 to discern what is going on inside the meditating community.  But it 
 need not be difficult at all once there are handles on it.  The 
 Fairfield meditating community has matured in time and is quite 
 developed with many communal features to find and look at.  I see 
 Fairfield, Iowa in fact can provide a large and living laboratory for 
 communal community scholars to look at. 
 
 Beginning with Tim Miller's Communal Societies Vol. 30 No.1, 2010 
 paper in mind I'll give you some things further below to look at for 
 yourselves,
 
  A Matter of Definition: Just What Is an Intentional Community?
 
 -A sense of purpose and distinctiveness, with deliberate intent to be 
 a community
 -Some kind of shared living space
 -Some shared resources
 -Critical mass
 
 For communal studies scholars looking in I believe one of the best 
 ways to understand the scale of the Fairfield Meditating community is 
 to relate to it in a form like the old Shaker villages as 
 organizational structure back while the Shakers were up and running.  
 In the middle of  TM is the equivalent of a Shaker 'Ministry Family' 
 of upper administration and then elements of communal families of 
 meditators that are in concentric circles around the middle including 
 meditators who live well outside the middle in town but come inside 
 to meditate also as 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread Share Long
Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to today 
and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, neither Edwin 
nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, albeit wrongly, that 
the explanation explained.




 From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
 healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
 survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over 
 their shoulder.
 
 In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
 days, women fight dirty.

And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case the 
man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because women 
are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to rely on 
their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by when 
physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from a 
predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and 
creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well 
as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics 
into one descriptive word like dirty is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a 
negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite 
sex.

  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we were 
the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or warring.

We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been present.
 
 Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
 language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
 Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   

Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. Can 
you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? Now 
ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. If you 
find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just weren't 
enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar.
 
 
 
 
  From: feste37 feste37@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
 
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
  Wonderful performances.
  
  That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
  thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
  by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
  that is.
  
  Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
  heart out but also put a grenade under your
  body to greet anyone rolling you over.
 
 I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
  wrote:
  
   Three Netrebko videos...
  
   Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
   (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
   need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
   nicely.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
  
  
   Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
   (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
  interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
   ability.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
  
  
   Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
   (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
   production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
   and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
   scene, over 10 minutes.)
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
   
   
Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
   
But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
   
Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
Renee Fleming in post #328213.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
  wrote:
 
 
  Oh yeah?

[FairfieldLife] Transforming Lives From Within Benefit Gala Dinner, David Lynch Foundation UK

2012-12-06 Thread nablusoss1008
Transforming Lives From Within Benefit Gala Dinner, David Lynch
Foundation UK Posted on December 1, 2012
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/transforming-lives-from-w\
ithin-benefit-gala-dinner-david-lynch-foundation-uk/ by julieeagleton
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/author/julieeagleton/
Last week I was delighted to attend the Transforming Lives From Within
benefit gala dinner; the first of its kind for the David Lynch
Foundation UK http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org.uk/  at the
Underglobe, a quite magical space under Shakespeare's Globe Theatre.

  [IMG_0507[1][2]] 
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/transforming-lives-from-w\
ithin-benefit-gala-dinner-david-lynch-foundation-uk/img_050712/

The David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World
Peace was first set up by Lynch in the USA in 2005, and in 2012 the
foundation was established here in the UK. Its aim is to ensure that any
child who wants to learn and practise the Transcendental Meditation
programme can do so. TM is the most thoroughly researched and widely
practiced programme in the world for developing the full creative
potential of the brain and mind, improving health, reducing stress, and
improving academic outcomes. The DLF UK also works with stressed
teachers, the homeless, prisoners and the many thousands of war veterans
suffering from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

Award-winning director, writer and producer, David Lynch, has been
diving within through the Transcendental Meditation technique
for over 30 years. I became interested in meditation because I
heard a phrase: True happiness is not out there. True happiness lies
within. And this phrase had a ring of truth to me, but the phrase
doesn't tell you where the within is, nor how to get there. One day
it hit me that meditation would be the way to go within.

The gala dinner brought together meditators and non-meditators, artists,
musicians, writers, war veterans and professionals from all walks of
life with a collective aim: to support this incredibly worthy cause.

James McCartney and his band provided a memorable set. In 2009 James
made his first public musical debut at a David Lynch Foundation benefit
in Iowa. I'm delighted to have been invited to perform again at
another one of the foundation's events. The significance this time
round is that it's in my home town of London. I wish everyone
involved continued success in spreading the good work of the foundation
and the power of Transcendental Mediation – health and happiness to
all.

  [IMG_2660] 
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/transforming-lives-from-w\
ithin-benefit-gala-dinner-david-lynch-foundation-uk/img_2660/

David Lynch joined the gala via live video link, and presented Tim
Burgess of The Charlatans with a DLF Peace Award for his innovative
fundraising for the charity. Tim has created music for the
Transcendental Music Label as well as his own Kellogg's cereal
brand, and most recently, his own brand of delicious coffee: Tim Peaks
http://www.timpeaks.co.uk/ .

  [Photo 5 Tim Burgess #68CFBB] 
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/transforming-lives-from-w\
ithin-benefit-gala-dinner-david-lynch-foundation-uk/photo-5-tim-burgess-\
68cfbb/

  [75912_10151557832172785_1384740922_n] 
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/transforming-lives-from-w\
ithin-benefit-gala-dinner-david-lynch-foundation-uk/75912_10151557832172\
785_1384740922_n/

There were two incredibly moving speeches given by war veterans,
Leighton Stagg and Steve Bindon, who bravely shared their personal
stories of how they overcame Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and how TM
helped transform their lives from within.

A wonderful live auction of art – including seven very special
pieces generously donated by David Lynch – kicked off the
fundraising, presided over by consummate auctioneer, Jamie Breese. The
fundraising will continue at silent online auctions, with exciting
opportunities to bid for celebrity and fashion experiences at Charity
Buzz http://www.charitybuzz.com/ . The online auctions begin on 1
December.

I have been diving within now for almost two years now, and I
can honestly say, learning TM has been one of the best things I have
ever done. Please visit my previous blog here
http://julieeagleton.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/transcendental-meditation\
/  to find out why.

If you would like to support the DLF UK by making a donation please
visit the website for further details: www.davidlynchfoundation.org.uk
http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org.uk/  or call: 01394 460995.

To bid on some very exclusive and unique items please visit:
www.charitybuzz.com http://www.charitybuzz.com/ .
  http://www.paddle8.com/

For those interested in learning Transcendental Mediation please visit:
www.t-m.org.uk http://www.t-m.org.uk/

Further reading: Catching The Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness and
Creativity by David Lynch. Buy here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 And if they were cut and pasted, that means someone in the 
 TMO believes Earth will go Walt Disney? Horrors! We can't 
 say that! Maybe it will be more like a Norman Rockwell 
 painting. I sort of admire Buck's enthusiasm too - the 
 shots people (including me) have taken at him here on 
 FFL are like water off a duck's back.


I would say instead, water off a quack's back. :-)


 
  From: seekliberation seekliberation@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
  
 
   
 Did you cut, copy and paste all the points below?  Cause seriously, if those 
 ideas are coming off the top of your head, you are basically choosing to 
 believe in a doctrine that believes all of a sudden Planet Earth is going to 
 turn into a Disney cartoon overnight in our lifetime somehow. 
 
 Best wishes to you though.your enthusiasm is admirable. 
 
 seekliberation
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of 
  every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation. 
   
   With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by 
   victory before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- 
   because everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and as 
   a result, coherence in every country will be so strong that invincibility 
   will be a natural feature of national life.  No negativity will arise and 
   no enemy will be born for any nation.

Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by 
indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of collective 
life -family, community, nation, and the world.  Heaven on Earth will 
also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the life of the 
individual and society.
 
 Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by 
 perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly 
 fulfill one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, 
 and nourishing environment. 
  
  Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven 
  on Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and non-good 
  nowhere †beautiful sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment for 
  everyone always and everywhere.
   
   With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized 
   by self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do anything, 
   and accomplish anything.

 With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by 
perfection, complete balance and integration.  Fulfillment will 
prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, 
intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic.
 
 Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of life 
 everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and 
 suffering is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world 
 enjoys real freedom in bliss and fulfillment.  This Heaven on 
 Earth is now going to be real for everyone and every nation.
 
  Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of 
  the wise throughout the ages.  Creation of Heaven on Earth 
  is the most desirable project in the entire history of the 
  human race.  Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on Earth through 
  perfect alliance with Natural Law, through the enlivenment 
  of the total potential of Natural Law in one's own 
  consciousness.
 

   
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you
  for having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of
  course we had to develop to survive living with those big
  strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over their shoulder.
  
  In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches
  that since cave days, women fight dirty.
 
 And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's
 (in this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint.
snip
 Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a
 negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive
 in the opposite sex.

That's OK, he's an expert and a wise other.

And with regard to the Mad Scene woman emptybill was talking
about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
she has gone insane with grief.

Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?

There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
kills himself.

The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
century Scotland.




[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
Do you think you have communicated with Ann and me here,
Share?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
 noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
 today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
 neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
 albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
 
 
 
 
  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
  healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
  survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
  over their shoulder.
  
  In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
  cave days, women fight dirty.
 
 And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
 the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
 women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
 rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by 
 when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from 
 a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous 
 and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion 
 as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these 
 characteristics into one descriptive word like dirty is patently ridiculous 
 and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another 
 person putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as 
 positive in the opposite sex.
 
   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we 
 were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or 
 warring.
 
 We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
 men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
 present.
  
  Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
  language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
  Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
 
 Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
 Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
 Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. 
 If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just 
 weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar.
  
  
  
  
   From: feste37 feste37@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
  
  
    
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
   Wonderful performances.
   
   That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
   thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
   by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
   that is.
   
   Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
   heart out but also put a grenade under your
   body to greet anyone rolling you over.
  
  I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
   wrote:
   
Three Netrebko videos...
   
Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
(Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
nicely.)
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
   
   
Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
(From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
   interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
ability.)
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
   
   
Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
(Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
scene, over 10 minutes.)
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:


 Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.

 But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.

 Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
 Renee Fleming in post #328213.

 --- In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/3813469.stm

so much for Benjy Creme





 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... 
wrote:

 This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all 
 sorrow and suffering.
 
 http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/

Nice, thanks for posting ! This is what Benjamin Creme has to say about Sai 
Baba:
The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The Christ is a planetary avatar, Sai 
Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a Spiritual Regent, sent into the world by the 
Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara, on Shamballa. A regent stands in for the 
king. Similarly, a Spiritual Regent stands in for God, for the Logos, Whose 
reflection Sanat Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies the energy of Love at a cosmic 
level (the Christ embodies this energy at the planetary level) and his work, in 
part, is to prepare humanity for the work of the Christ. By awakening the love 
principle in humanity, Sai Baba will prepare people for the Initiatory work of 
the Christ. As the Hierophant, the Initiator, at the first two planetary 
initiations, the Christ will lead humanity gradually out of the strictly human 
kingdom into the Hierarchy, the Kingdom of Souls, or the Kingdom of God. That 
is his major work in the coming age of Aquarius. These two Great Ones work 
together in daily contact, complete
 harmony and shared purpose in the evolution of mankind. 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
 And with regard to the Mad Scene woman emptybill was talking
 about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
 her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
 she has gone insane with grief.
 
 Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
 
 There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
 political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
 thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
 other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
 kills himself.
 
 The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
 century Scotland.


And people wonder why I prefer the relatively upbeat,
comparatively happy themes of country music to opera.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread feste37
Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just authfriend's 
malicious spin. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
 noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
 today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
 neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
 albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
 
 
 
 
  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
  healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
  survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
  over their shoulder.
  
  In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
  cave days, women fight dirty.
 
 And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
 the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
 women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
 rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by 
 when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from 
 a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous 
 and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion 
 as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these 
 characteristics into one descriptive word like dirty is patently ridiculous 
 and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another 
 person putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as 
 positive in the opposite sex.
 
   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we 
 were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or 
 warring.
 
 We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
 men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
 present.
  
  Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
  language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
  Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
 
 Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
 Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
 Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. 
 If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just 
 weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar.
  
  
  
  
   From: feste37 feste37@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
  
  
    
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
   Wonderful performances.
   
   That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
   thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
   by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
   that is.
   
   Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
   heart out but also put a grenade under your
   body to greet anyone rolling you over.
  
  I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
   wrote:
   
Three Netrebko videos...
   
Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
(Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
nicely.)
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
   
   
Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
(From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
   interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
ability.)
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
   
   
Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
(Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
scene, over 10 minutes.)
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:


 Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.

 But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.

 Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
 Renee Fleming in post #328213.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of 
scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq 
you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you - as to 
your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - 
There is no accounting for taste.





 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... 
wrote:

 This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
 freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
 
 http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/

Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
Mantra is required:

Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.

Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
some still revere Maharishi. 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would 
 lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on 
 the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a 
 mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you - as 
 to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic 
 sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste.

That's the advantage to having been around these here
parts longer, Pardner. In my case, they've already used
up all the scurrilous accusations they can think of. :-)

Seriously, I think that the Sathya Sai Baba thang is an
Indian National Scandal, and should be treated as such.
The evidence of his child-molesting ways is strong enough 
to have resulted in prosecutions in most countries of 
the world, and the video evidence of him palming the
miraculous items he claimed to produce from the ether
is all over YouTube. 

But in India he was, and his memory still is, protected
from on high by former followers, in the highest offices
of the land. They take advantage of archaic laws that
make it actually *illegal* to say bad things about a 
supposed holy man. They also use the power of their
enormous holdings to hire the best lawyers and PIs to
intimidate and sue anyone who dares to speak against
him in public. These forces kept any serious court
cases from being filed against him during his lifetime.

What amazes me -- and I think you'll identify with this
from your TM experience -- is how you can present all
of the evidence of his wrongdoings to devout Sai Baba
freaks, and they find ways to either ignore it, treat
it as lies, or find some way to excuse it. No, when
the parents walked in and found him fondling the genitals
of their child, Sai Baba was just using his holy shakti
to increase the child's kundalini. Yeah, right. I'm
waiting to see how long it takes before someone trots 
out that explanation for the charges against Mia 
Farrow's only-distantly-related-to-TM brother. 

Spiritual teachers should be held to *higher* standards
than anyone else. That's what they SELL, after all --
higher standards. They tell us that they've got the 
teachings or techniques to make ourselves better than 
the average Joe. They sell higher states of consciousness 
that promise greater-than-human abilities and perceptions 
and abilities to do the right thing in all situations. 

When they say this shit and then get off by fondling
children's genitals, I say they should be dealt with the
same way your Uncle Charlie would be if he did it. Only
the punishment should be more severe for the person who
claimed he was above such things, and made a fortune
from claiming it. 

There. *Now* let's see if they've used up all of their
scurrilous accusations.  :-)

 
  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
 wrote:
 
  This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
  freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
  
  http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
 
 Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
 Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
 Mantra is required:
 
 Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
 of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
 from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
 the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
 
 Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
 that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
 Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
 some still revere Maharishi.





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
 authfriend's malicious spin. 

Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did not 
say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a question, 
didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take a 
breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are reacting 
like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
  noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
  today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
  neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
  albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
  
  
  
  
   From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
   
  
    
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
   healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
   survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
   over their shoulder.
   
   In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
   cave days, women fight dirty.
  
  And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
  the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
  women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
  rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone 
  by when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young 
  from a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be 
  spontaneous and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry 
  mountain lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump 
  all of these characteristics into one descriptive word like dirty is 
  patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 
  'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what could 
  be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
  
    We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because 
  we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting 
  or warring.
  
  We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since 
  the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
  present.
   
   Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
   language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to 
   spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
  
  Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
  Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
  Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be 
  fine. If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there 
  just weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar.
   
   
   
   
From: feste37 feste37@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
   
   
     
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
   
Wonderful performances.

That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
that is.

Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
heart out but also put a grenade under your
body to greet anyone rolling you over.
   
   I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so 
   much. 
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
wrote:

 Three Netrebko videos...

 Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
 (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
 need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
 nicely.)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE


 Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
 (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
 ability.)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1


 Mad Scene 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
  authfriend's malicious spin. 
 
 Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did not 
 say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a question, 
 didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
 Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take a 
 breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are reacting 
 like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
  

I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397






[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread feste37
Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool of 
herself. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
   authfriend's malicious spin. 
  
  Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did 
  not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a 
  question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
  Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take 
  a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are 
  reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
   
 
 I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
 just authfriend's malicious spin.

Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
something wildly inappropriate to the context.

And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
sense.

This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
*respect* when you do the latter.





 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
  noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
  today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
  neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
  albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
  
  
  
  
   From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
   
  
    
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
   healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
   survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
   over their shoulder.
   
   In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
   cave days, women fight dirty.
  
  And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
  the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
  women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
  rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone 
  by when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young 
  from a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be 
  spontaneous and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry 
  mountain lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump 
  all of these characteristics into one descriptive word like dirty is 
  patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 
  'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what could 
  be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
  
    We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because 
  we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting 
  or warring.
  
  We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since 
  the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
  present.
   
   Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
   language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to 
   spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
  
  Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
  Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
  Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be 
  fine. If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there 
  just weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar.
   
   
   
   
From: feste37 feste37@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
   
   
     
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
   
Wonderful performances.

That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
that is.

Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
heart out but also put a grenade under your
body to greet anyone rolling you over.
   
   I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so 
   much. 
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
wrote:

 Three Netrebko videos...

 Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
 (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
 need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
 nicely.)

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread feste37
We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others to  understand 
her. In this case making a fool of yourself means writing something I don't 
agree with. In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done in 
this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar of authfriend 
speak, which we might define as a language developed entirely to browbeat and 
humiliate other people. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
  just authfriend's malicious spin.
 
 Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
 First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
 was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
 something wildly inappropriate to the context.
 
 And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
 terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
 notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
 sense.
 
 This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
 her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
 really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
 take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
 herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
 *respect* when you do the latter.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
   noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
   today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
   neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
   albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
   
   
   
   
From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

   
     
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having 
a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop 
to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging 
us over their shoulder.

In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that 
since cave days, women fight dirty.
   
   And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this 
   case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that 
   because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men 
   they have to rely on their wits more and of course this would apply 
   mostly to days gone by when physical threat was more common in daily 
   life. To hide one's young from a predator would involve elements of 
   foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and creative to find ways of 
   escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well as a huge degree 
   of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics into one 
   descriptive word like dirty is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
   even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person 
   putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive 
   in the opposite sex.
   
     We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because 
   we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off 
   hunting or warring.
   
   We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since 
   the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had 
   been present.

Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more 
colorful language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If 
only to spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day 
(-:   
   
   Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every 
   day. Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some 
   marauder? Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all 
   will be fine. If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's 
   because there just weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, 
   you nasty cougar.




 From: feste37 feste37@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:

 Wonderful performances.
 
 That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
 thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
 by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
 that is.
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool of 
 herself.

Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it hardly 
takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
authfriend's malicious spin. 
   
   Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did 
   not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a 
   question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
   Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. 
   Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and 
   are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.

  
  I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
   authfriend's malicious spin. 
  
  Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did 
  not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a 
  question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
  Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take 
  a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are 
  reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
   
 
 I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397

Thanks Alex, you just gave an example of correcting/clarifying something 
without coming across like a dink.





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That 
was just authfriend's malicious spin. 
   
   Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  
   that Judy did not say Share had made a fool of herself, 
   not even close. She asked a question, didn't make a statement, 
   and the question was did Share think she had communicated to 
   Judy or I in her last post to us. Take a breath and take a 
   moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are reacting 
   like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
  
  I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
 
 Thanks Alex, you just gave an example of correcting/clarifying 
 something without coming across like a dink.

Ahem. Methinks Angry Ann forgot to include the part of
her post that goes, I was W...W...W...WRONG. It was 
M...M...M...ME who made a fool of myself. Sorry.

A real chip off the Robin blockheadedness. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread feste37
Looks like someone is trying to cover her embarrassment at her foolish error. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool 
  of herself.
 
 Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it hardly 
 takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
 authfriend's malicious spin. 

Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy 
did not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked 
a question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. 
Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and 
are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm 
ready.
 
   
   I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
   
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
  
 





[FairfieldLife] TM spiritual pilgrims

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
Not really. They'd never be caught dead visiting a Buddhist shrine. But
if they did, this is how they'd travel:

 
[http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267891/slide_267891_1844594_fr\
ee.jpg?1354738329236]

This photo was taken at Emeishan, Sichuan Province, China. A famous
Buddhist  mountain, a lot of people here to pray at the Golden Summit.
It is  3099m, and seriously the mountain starts lower than 1000m. We
walked to  the top for two days, and we saw this guy on the way down.
There are a  group of people who are selling this service. This guy
obviously hired  these guys and to hike the mountain for him, wearing
a suit and texting.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
Bbbut, Barry! Benjy Creme says he's a real sho 'nuff saint!!!

I know what you mean - you find the same thing in New Age-y stuff - even tho I 
spent a long time doing it I have gotten increasingly skeptical about all the 
Ascended Master stuff - all the things that Bob Fickes and Joshua Stone and all 
the other people are coming up with is like a Marvel Comic or rather the entire 
Marvel Universe.

One of the best examples was an old fraud by the name of Guy Ballard who 
claimed to have a personal relationship with the Master St Germain. There are 
so many holes in his narrative books the Unveiled Mystery series that its easy 
to see he was a fraud, but even today the members of and believers in the St. 
Germain Society and the I AM Activity will go ballistic if you say so.

Ballard and his wife who some say actually wrote the books and was the power 
behind Guy had their heyday during the Depression. Ballard 
promised them eternal youth, a bodily ascension into heaven, wealth, romance 
with one's soul mate. He accepted donations from his followers, 
wanted them to only hang out with other students, made them give up many
 things... but did not deliver on his promises. Sound familiar?

When people don't know who they are within, they will gravitate towards people 
who seem to have it all - ignoring or not seeing that they do have it all and 
they got it from their followers.










 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would 
 lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on 
 the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a 
 mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you - as 
 to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic 
 sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste.

That's the advantage to having been around these here
parts longer, Pardner. In my case, they've already used
up all the scurrilous accusations they can think of. :-)

Seriously, I think that the Sathya Sai Baba thang is an
Indian National Scandal, and should be treated as such.
The evidence of his child-molesting ways is strong enough 
to have resulted in prosecutions in most countries of 
the world, and the video evidence of him palming the
miraculous items he claimed to produce from the ether
is all over YouTube. 

But in India he was, and his memory still is, protected
from on high by former followers, in the highest offices
of the land. They take advantage of archaic laws that
make it actually *illegal* to say bad things about a 
supposed holy man. They also use the power of their
enormous holdings to hire the best lawyers and PIs to
intimidate and sue anyone who dares to speak against
him in public. These forces kept any serious court
cases from being filed against him during his lifetime.

What amazes me -- and I think you'll identify with this
from your TM experience -- is how you can present all
of the evidence of his wrongdoings to devout Sai Baba
freaks, and they find ways to either ignore it, treat
it as lies, or find some way to excuse it. No, when
the parents walked in and found him fondling the genitals
of their child, Sai Baba was just using his holy shakti
to increase the child's kundalini. Yeah, right. I'm
waiting to see how long it takes before someone trots 
out that explanation for the charges against Mia 
Farrow's only-distantly-related-to-TM brother. 

Spiritual teachers should be held to *higher* standards
than anyone else. That's what they SELL, after all --
higher standards. They tell us that they've got the 
teachings or techniques to make ourselves better than 
the average Joe. They sell higher states of consciousness 
that promise greater-than-human abilities and perceptions 
and abilities to do the right thing in all situations. 

When they say this shit and then get off by fondling
children's genitals, I say they should be dealt with the
same way your Uncle Charlie would be if he did it. Only
the punishment should be more severe for the person who
claimed he was above such things, and made a fortune
from claiming it. 

There. *Now* let's see if they've used up all of their
scurrilous accusations.  :-)

 
  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
 wrote:
 
  This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
  freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
  
  http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
 
 Duh. One would think that 

Re: [FairfieldLife] John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
 He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
 question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this story 
 ends sooner or later.

 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312



I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the 
problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in 
power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been 
mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't 
have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a 
haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak 
English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they 
drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of 
paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police 
stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently 
the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor 
was found dead they pinned it on him.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread doctordumbass
and I would say, Misery loves company.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  And if they were cut and pasted, that means someone in the 
  TMO believes Earth will go Walt Disney? Horrors! We can't 
  say that! Maybe it will be more like a Norman Rockwell 
  painting. I sort of admire Buck's enthusiasm too - the 
  shots people (including me) have taken at him here on 
  FFL are like water off a duck's back.
 
 
 I would say instead, water off a quack's back. :-)
 
 
  
   From: seekliberation seekliberation@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:14 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
   
  
    
  Did you cut, copy and paste all the points below?  Cause seriously, if 
  those ideas are coming off the top of your head, you are basically choosing 
  to believe in a doctrine that believes all of a sudden Planet Earth is 
  going to turn into a Disney cartoon overnight in our lifetime somehow. 
  
  Best wishes to you though.your enthusiasm is admirable. 
  
  seekliberation
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic 
   of every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation. 

With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by 
victory before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- 
because everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and 
as a result, coherence in every country will be so strong that 
invincibility will be a natural feature of national life.  No 
negativity will arise and no enemy will be born for any nation.
 
 Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by 
 indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of 
 collective life -family, community, nation, and the world.  Heaven on 
 Earth will also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the 
 life of the individual and society.
  
  Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by 
  perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly 
  fulfill one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, 
  and nourishing environment. 
   
   Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven 
   on Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and 
   non-good nowhere †beautiful sunshine of the Age of 
   Enlightenment for everyone always and everywhere.

With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized 
by self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do 
anything, and accomplish anything.
 
  With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by 
 perfection, complete balance and integration.  Fulfillment 
 will prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, 
 intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic.
  
  Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of 
  life everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and 
  suffering is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world 
  enjoys real freedom in bliss and fulfillment.  This Heaven 
  on Earth is now going to be real for everyone and every 
  nation.
  
   Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of 
   the wise throughout the ages.  Creation of Heaven on 
   Earth is the most desirable project in the entire history 
   of the human race.  Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on 
   Earth through perfect alliance with Natural Law, through 
   the enlivenment of the total potential of Natural Law in 
   one's own consciousness.
  
 

   
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread doctordumbass
If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out; cocaine.
If you wanna get down, down on the ground; cocaine.
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; cocaine.
When your day is done and you wanna run; cocaine.
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; cocaine.
Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; cocaine.
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

Songwriters: GASS, JAMES D. / THICKE, ROBIN A.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
  He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
  question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this 
  story ends sooner or later.
 
  http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312
 
 
 
 I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the 
 problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in 
 power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been 
 mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't 
 have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a 
 haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak 
 English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they 
 drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of 
 paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police 
 stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently 
 the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor 
 was found dead they pinned it on him.





[FairfieldLife] Too Funny

2012-12-06 Thread mjackson74
I just got this from an old friend who graduated from MIU when it was still MIU.


I remember one time Sam Boothby was teaching an education class where he was 
showing a Maharishi video.  In this video Maharishi said an enlightened man 
never mistakes.  

Earlier in the tape he was calling Dr. Michael Wineless, Wineberg. 

I asked Sam if Maharishi made a mistake.  
He yelled back at me and the whole class: We must never say Maharishi makes 
mistakes!  We can't say from our unenlightened viewpoint!

Then I said: If I can't judge from my unelightened stress-cluttered nervous 
system, then how can I know if I'm hearing and processing all of Maharishi's 
discourse correctly--especially those on CC, GC, and UC?  

Mark Kurita yelled out Good question!
   
Sam ignored me when my hand was up for the rest of the semester.  I was just 
too filled with stress.



[FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
  He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
  question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this 
  story ends sooner or later.
 
  http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312
 
 
 
 I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the 
 problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in 
 power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been 
 mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't 
 have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a 
 haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak 
 English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they 
 drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of 
 paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police 
 stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently 
 the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor 
 was found dead they pinned it on him.


Many third world countries like Belize operate this way.  If they know you've 
got money, the corrupt officials will find a way for you to pay up under the 
table or they'll make your stay in the country miserable.

Now, Guatemala apparently is trying to deport McAfee for illegal entry.  This 
is going to be an ugly story, it looks like.

http://news.yahoo.com/held-guatemala-software-guru-mcafee-fights-deportation-183614586--finance.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: movie soundtracks

2012-12-06 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  I find the TM mantra works great for pee shyness during those rare times 
  when I have to use a public bathroom.
  
 
 Pee shyness is a phobia called paruresis. The analogous condition that 
 affects bowel movement is called parcopresis, aka Toilet Proximity Anxiety 
 Disorder. How irrigating. Pee-shyness is also known as, bashful bladder, 
 bashful kidneys, stage fright, pee fright, urophobia, public piss syndrome, 
 shy bladder syndrome, air-blockage and psychogenic urinary retention. 
 ~Wikipedia.
 
 Hey, Alex. Swami Gulab Juman can heal just about anything that ails you, 
 including nervous wee wee. Contact him in the link below.
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/w81nzyxhoElEZvDec0KXDtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
 

If you need any relics for your shrine, I would be happy to save you some of my 
toenail clippings (which also make wonderful incense if sprinkled on top of 
burning charcoal.)



[FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread John
The news reported that McAfee was partying too much in Belize.  So karma has 
some unpredictable ways of coming back at you.  Now, he's on the run and 
detained in Guatemala.

http://news.yahoo.com/held-guatemala-software-guru-mcafee-fights-deportation-183614586--finance.html


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out; cocaine.
 If you wanna get down, down on the ground; cocaine.
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
 If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; cocaine.
 When your day is done and you wanna run; cocaine.
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
 If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; cocaine.
 Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; cocaine.
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
 Songwriters: GASS, JAMES D. / THICKE, ROBIN A.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
   He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
   question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this 
   story ends sooner or later.
  
   http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312
  
  
  
  I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the 
  problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in 
  power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been 
  mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't 
  have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a 
  haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak 
  English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they 
  drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of 
  paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police 
  stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently 
  the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor 
  was found dead they pinned it on him.
 





[FairfieldLife] The Real Housewives of FFL

2012-12-06 Thread Richard J. Williams


  And with regard to the Mad Scene woman emptybill was talking
  about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
  her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
  she has gone insane with grief.
  
  Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
  
  There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
  political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
  thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
  other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
  kills himself.
  
  The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
  century Scotland.
  
turquoiseb:
 And people wonder why I prefer the relatively upbeat,
 comparatively happy themes of country music to opera.  :-)

So, why are you feeding it?

You make up for the opera drama by watching TV dramas 
and reading FFL. LoL! 

Share should just stay on the path, not fall into a 
FFL rabbit hole with Judy - it's never ending; a 
bottomless pit - there is no winner, only  time 
wasted. Go figure.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread Bhairitu
Not sure why partying too much would be a problem in Belize because it 
is a tourist country and likes to party.   Like you said in another post 
you gotta pay off the officials. I once heard that to travel in Mexico 
before the current gangland violence you gave the local cops enough 
dough to buy a six-pack and they left you alone.  Americans get very 
upset with such graft even though we do have it here but it is more covert.

On 12/06/2012 11:56 AM, John wrote:
 The news reported that McAfee was partying too much in Belize.  So karma has 
 some unpredictable ways of coming back at you.  Now, he's on the run and 
 detained in Guatemala.

 http://news.yahoo.com/held-guatemala-software-guru-mcafee-fights-deportation-183614586--finance.html


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
 If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out; cocaine.
 If you wanna get down, down on the ground; cocaine.
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

 If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; cocaine.
 When your day is done and you wanna run; cocaine.
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

 If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; cocaine.
 Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; cocaine.
 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

 She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.

 Songwriters: GASS, JAMES D. / THICKE, ROBIN A.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
 He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
 question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this 
 story ends sooner or later.

 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312


 I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the
 problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in
 power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been
 mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't
 have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a
 haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak
 English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they
 drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of
 paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police
 stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently
 the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor
 was found dead they pinned it on him.






[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 Looks like someone is trying to cover her embarrassment at her foolish error. 

Sorry, not embarrassed, not covering, and definitely not foolish. I've been 
wrong, but not stupid.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool 
   of herself.
  
  Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it 
  hardly takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
   j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
  authfriend's malicious spin. 
 
 Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy 
 did not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She 
 asked a question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
 Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. 
 Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy 
 and are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think 
 I'm ready.
  

I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
 to  understand her. In this case making a fool of yourself 
 means writing something I don't agree with.

And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
Go back and look at my original post

 In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
 in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar 
 of authfriend speak, which we might define as a language 
 developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people. 

What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid 
lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.

You are way out of your league here, feste darling.



 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
   just authfriend's malicious spin.
  
  Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
  First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
  was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
  something wildly inappropriate to the context.
  
  And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
  terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
  notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
  sense.
  
  This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
  her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
  really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
  take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
  herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
  *respect* when you do the latter.
  
  
  
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior 
to today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  
Ann, neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I 
thought, albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.




 From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

 feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for 
 having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to 
 develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone 
 to slinging us over their shoulder.
 
 In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that 
 since cave days, women fight dirty.

And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this 
case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that 
because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men 
they have to rely on their wits more and of course this would apply 
mostly to days gone by when physical threat was more common in daily 
life. To hide one's young from a predator would involve elements of 
foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and creative to find ways of 
escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well as a huge degree 
of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics into one 
descriptive word like dirty is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person 
putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as 
positive in the opposite sex.

  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young 
because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were 
off hunting or warring.

We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense 
since the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they 
had been present.
 
 Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more 
 colorful language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  
 If only to spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day 
 (-:   

Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every 
day. Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some 
marauder? Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and 
all will be fine. If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's 
because there just weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, 
you nasty cougar.
 
 
 
 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Looks like someone is trying to cover her embarrassment at 
  her foolish error. 
 
 Sorry, not embarrassed, not covering, and definitely not 
 foolish. I've been wrong, but not stupid.

Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.

 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a 
fool of herself.
   
   Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it 
   hardly takes anything at all to look like an asshole.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was 
   just authfriend's malicious spin. 
  
  Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that 
  Judy did not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. 
  She asked a question, didn't make a statement, and the question was 
  did 
  Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to 
  us. Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise 
  Judy and are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I 
  think I'm ready.
   
 
 I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Richard J. Williams

  This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection
  and freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
 
turquoiseb:
 Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
 Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
 Mantra is required:

This is funny!

So, how much 'moolah' did you give the Marshy and the
Rama Guy? $10,000 or $20,000 over fourteen years so
NOW you're complaining. Go figure.

You got what, a single mantra from MMY and didn't
even get a spiritual name from Rama and after all
that time and money spent. LoL!

 Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
 of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
 from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
 the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.

What do you suppose Rama did with  all the money you
gave him? From what I've read, Lenz bought hisself a
Mercedes Benz and a nice pad up in Stony Brook. Nice!

Were you evenr invited up over to sit in his Fred's
hot tub? Maybe you don't want to talk about it.

 Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere
 that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
 Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
 some still revere Maharishi.

Or, that some still revere the Rama guy. LoL!




[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.

Hey, Barry, saying something RLY
RLY STOOPID
twice doesn't somehow make it any less
STPID.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
 to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
 of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
 presence that they dast not speak ill of you

Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
because it tends not to stand up to examination).

Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.






 - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to 
say - There is no accounting for taste.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
 wrote:
 
  This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
  freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
  
  http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
 
 Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
 Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
 Mantra is required:
 
 Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
 of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
 from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
 the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
 
 Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
 that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
 Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
 some still revere Maharishi.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2012-12-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 and I would say, Misery loves company.:-)


Birds of a feather...  :-)


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:




[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.
 
 Hey, Barry, saying something RLY
 RLY STOOPID
 twice doesn't somehow make it any less
 STPID.

See what I mean about them having used up all of
the scurrilous accusations they're capable of 
thinking up, Michael? The most they can do now
is add more vowels to them. 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an 
initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international 
borders is an interesting feller to listen to





 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
 to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
 of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
 presence that they dast not speak ill of you

Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
because it tends not to stand up to examination).

Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.

- as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to 
say - There is no accounting for taste.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
 wrote:
 
  This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
  freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
  
  http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
 
 Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
 Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
 Mantra is required:
 
 Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
 of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
 from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
 the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
 
 Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
 that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
 Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
 some still revere Maharishi.



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread feste37
Most of this post is the usual authfriend crap, but I like the darling bit. I 
don't get called that nearly often enough, so I will take whatever I can get 
and hold my nose regarding the source. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
  to  understand her. In this case making a fool of yourself 
  means writing something I don't agree with.
 
 And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
 Go back and look at my original post
 
  In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
  in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar 
  of authfriend speak, which we might define as a language 
  developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people. 
 
 What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid 
 lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
 the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.
 
 You are way out of your league here, feste darling.
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
just authfriend's malicious spin.
   
   Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
   First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
   was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
   something wildly inappropriate to the context.
   
   And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
   terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
   notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
   sense.
   
   This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
   her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
   really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
   take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
   herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
   *respect* when you do the latter.
   
   
   
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

 Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
 noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself 
 prior to today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the 
 future.  Ann, neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  
 Which I thought, albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
 
 
 
 
  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
  
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for 
  having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had 
  to develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen 
  prone to slinging us over their shoulder.
  
  In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that 
  since cave days, women fight dirty.
 
 And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n 
 this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at 
 it that because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong 
 than men they have to rely on their wits more and of course this 
 would apply mostly to days gone by when physical threat was more 
 common in daily life. To hide one's young from a predator would 
 involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and 
 creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain 
 lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all 
 of these characteristics into one descriptive word like dirty is 
 patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 
 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what 
 could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
 
   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young 
 because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe 
 were off hunting or warring.
 
 We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense 
 since the men were gone and might have been the first line even if 
 they had been present.
  
  Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more 
  colorful language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  
  If only to spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single 
  day (-:   
 
 Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every 
 day. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  snip
   Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.
 
  Hey, Barry, saying something RLY
  RLY STOOPID
  twice doesn't somehow make it any less
  STPID.

 See what I mean about them having used up all of
 the scurrilous accusations they're capable of
 thinking up, Michael? The most they can do now
 is add more vowels to them.


Barry baby - you are really losing it - you should get a room together with
feste?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Most of this post is usual retarded feste stuff.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Most of this post is the usual authfriend crap, but I like the darling
 bit. I don't get called that nearly often enough, so I will take whatever I
 can get and hold my nose regarding the source.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
   to understand her. In this case making a fool of yourself
   means writing something I don't agree with.
 
  And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
  Go back and look at my original post
 
   In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
   in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar
   of authfriend speak, which we might define as a language
   developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people.
 
  What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid
  lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
  the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.
 
  You are way out of your league here, feste darling.
 
 
 
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
 just authfriend's malicious spin.
   
Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
something wildly inappropriate to the context.
   
And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
sense.
   
This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
*respect* when you do the latter.
   
   
   
   
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
 wrote:
 
  Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a
 noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to
 today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann,
 neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought,
 albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
 
 
 
  
  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and
 emptyB
 
 
  Â
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
 wrote:
  
   feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you
 for having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to
 develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to
 slinging us over their shoulder.
  
   In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches
 that since cave days, women fight dirty.
 
  And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's
 (n this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it
 that because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men
 they have to rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly
 to days gone by when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide
 one's young from a predator would involve elements of foresight, the
 ability to be spontaneous and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of
 some hungry mountain lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a
 term to lump all of these characteristics into one descriptive word like
 dirty is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk
 about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what
 could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
 
    We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the
 young because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe
 were off hunting or warring.
 
  We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of
 defense since the men were gone and might have been the first line even if
 they had been present.
  
   Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much
 more colorful language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If
 only to spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:ÂÂ
 ÂÂ
 
  Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha 
 try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full 
 of money across international borders is an interesting 
 feller to listen to

I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, 
and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, 
never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about 
either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put 
herself in the same room with him, such as...wait for 
it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid 
more attention to than others who did all these things.  :-)

Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's
film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that
her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot
is accurate, *never having seen the film*.  :-)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122

Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are
dealing with...


 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
  to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
  of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
  presence that they dast not speak ill of you
 
 Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
 there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
 haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
 to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
 because it tends not to stand up to examination).
 
 Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
 attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
 
 - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to 
 say - There is no accounting for taste.
  
  
   From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
  wrote:
  
   This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
   freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
   
   http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
  
  Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
  Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
  Mantra is required:
  
  Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
  of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
  from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
  the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
  
  Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
  that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
  Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
  some still revere Maharishi.
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT

2012-12-06 Thread Share Long
JS, I don't think that what Robin calls the mystical hallucination of his UC 
could, from the POV of simple logic, give rise to intentions which you describe 
as the absolute best and purest.  Logic indicates simply that the intentions at 
their very inception were based in hallucination.  I think calling them, 
especially in hindsight, the absolute best and purest continues the 
hallucination in a small but significant amount.  Significant because that 
small amount exists in the very core of the larger matter.  Thus is useful IMO 
to be named.

Yes, the whole situation became confusing, agonizing and eventually poignant.  
Even more reason to immediately name the hallucination or delusion or 
pragyaparadh when it appears so that unnecessary suffering can be avoided.

PS  And yes again, I thought I was communicating with you and Ann
 in my posts about Edwin Coppard's ideas.  If you thought I wasn't, how would 
you change what I wrote to make it fall within your category of communicating?  
  




 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT
 

  
Couple of comments below, Robin.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 Dear Bill,

snip

 Now since my enlightenment was a mystical hallucination, it
 meant that *the context which it gave birth to inside myself*,
 that too somewhere, no matter how true the process of
 confrontation and individuation appeared to be (and that
 process recreated reality, drove everyone into the deepest
 place one could ever go--and had ever gone), was untrue. **And
 what this meant--in the perspective after The Context was
 busted by a greater reality--was that this weakness in each
 person was simply what innocently each person had to do in
 order to survive as a human being inside the universe given
 that they were not perfect--and fallen. In other words, this 
 salient and ultimate weakness was not to be confronted--not
 even to be revealed.**

snip

JS: I don't think you've ever put it quite this way.

I wasn't there, of course, but the more you tell us about
all this, the more poignant it seems--the hope, the
exhilaration, the absolute best and purest of intentions
driving it, the huge effort and energy expended, and then
the wrenching agony of confusion when it began to self-
destruct.




 

[FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread doctordumbass
From multimillionaire, to cautionary tale - though I am not sure karma is all 
that unpredictable for him - hope he is enjoying his adventure!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 The news reported that McAfee was partying too much in Belize.  So karma has 
 some unpredictable ways of coming back at you.  Now, he's on the run and 
 detained in Guatemala.
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/held-guatemala-software-guru-mcafee-fights-deportation-183614586--finance.html
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out; cocaine.
  If you wanna get down, down on the ground; cocaine.
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
  
  If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; cocaine.
  When your day is done and you wanna run; cocaine.
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
  
  If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; cocaine.
  Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; cocaine.
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
  
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
  
  Songwriters: GASS, JAMES D. / THICKE, ROBIN A.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this 
story ends sooner or later.
   
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312
   
   
   
   I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the 
   problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in 
   power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been 
   mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't 
   have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a 
   haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak 
   English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they 
   drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of 
   paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police 
   stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently 
   the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor 
   was found dead they pinned it on him.
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] TM spiritual pilgrims

2012-12-06 Thread Mike Dixon
I saw the same thing when I went to Kedarnath in '96. People walked, road 
horses and went up by the method you see below. Some elderly were even carried 
up in baskets carried on someone's  back.

 


 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM spiritual pilgrims
   
   
 
Not really. They'd never be caught dead visiting a Buddhist shrine. But if they 
did, this is how they'd travel:



This photo was taken at Emeishan, Sichuan Province, China. A famous Buddhist 
mountain, a lot of people here to pray at the Golden Summit. It is 
3099m, and seriously the mountain starts lower than 1000m. We walked to 
the top for two days, and we saw this guy on the way down. There are a 
group of people who are selling this service. This guy obviously hired 
these guys and to hike the mountain for him, wearing a suit and texting. 

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT

2012-12-06 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Couple of comments below, Robin.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 Dear Bill,

 The essence of the Ten Years was this: when I came down from that mountain I
found myself able to see the ultimate weakness or falseness in each human being.
*I never saw this before*. So what this mean was that each person I met after
being enlightened--other than Maharishi himself--demonstrated in their behaviour
a certain awareness of what was untrue or insincere in themselves. It
seemed--from the point of view of Unity Consciousness--that each person had this
final and definitive flaw, a flaw which was the secret theme of all that they
did--but which was hidden from everyone else. And perhaps had not even surfaced
completely in the consciousness of that person.

 No matter: what happened inside my enlightenment was that in seeing the
evidence of this contradiction in their very beingness, I was led to believe (by
what was creating the context of my enlightenment) that my being able to
perceive this infirmity in that person, that in making this known to that
person, they could, through their own free will, make use simply of the grace of
truth (of that very revelation) to acquire the means to challenge and eventually
overcome that flaw. And each person had a signature flaw.

 Indeed the process through which this weakness was exposed seemed to bring
with it a context of prescriptive existential potential whereby that person
could begin to take responsibility for this weakness or falseness and begin to
overcome it. That is what confrontation was, after all: revelation of the
problem, and then, evidently, a context within which to do something about that
problem.

 The means to uncovering and exposing that flaw--*so that every person in the
room or theatre could see it for themselves*, see it inside the context of
reality, and thus making it seem to be a kind of 'demonically' supported
weakness--was through a 'tracking' process, which entailed going through layers
and layers of deceit, phoniness, dishonesty, fear, falseness, escapism,
avoidance--and then revealing this weakness as essentially the responsibility of
that person--inside the drama of creation--to face and conquer. To conquer that
distinctive and inimitable weakness would be the qualification to become
enlightened.

 Therefore this was becoming enlightened through a means other than the East
only. Even though that continued, as each and every one of us was devoted to
Maharishi, and were under the assumption that Maharishi had made me enlightened.
Ergo, what I was doing must, somehow have the blessing of my Master, Guru Dev,
and the Holy Tradition. Emphatically this was the understanding that every
person who was closest to me held as unassailable, inviolable.

 Now since my enlightenment was a mystical hallucination, it
 meant that *the context which it gave birth to inside myself*,
 that too somewhere, no matter how true the process of
 confrontation and individuation appeared to be (and that
 process recreated reality, drove everyone into the deepest
 place one could ever go--and had ever gone), was untrue. **And
 what this meant--in the perspective after The Context was
 busted by a greater reality--was that this weakness in each
 person was simply what innocently each person had to do in
 order to survive as a human being inside the universe given
 that they were not perfect--and fallen. In other words, this
 salient and ultimate weakness was not to be confronted--not
 even to be revealed.**

JS: These last two sentences are so illuminating of what you had
been trying to do. Your having the power to see these ultimate
weaknesses in people was like bait, for you and for them, an
ingenious--and, apparently, evil--temptation to meddle with
what should have been left strictly alone.

RC2: That word bait is very apropos, Judy--as is your entire comment here. 
The temptation, then, was a 'cosmic' one--but understood and experienced from 
the level of Unity Consciousness, it seemed not just irresistible, but (of 
course) contained the possibility--nay, even the inevitability--of being 
overcome. The very inspiration to perceive this ultimate flaw or weakness in 
each person seemed to signify that there was another truth there as well: *You 
can conquer this weakness--such that it will eventually die from nonuse*; which 
is to say, if you confront it in yourself (more about that later), you will 
diminish its strength and hold over you, and therefore you can find some 
non-compensatory means to be who you are. Because this weakness, as I have said 
in my letter to Bill Howell, brings the attention of the whole universe to 
itself (as far as the person in Unity Consciousness is concerned, that is).

But this principle goes much further. Not only was the revelation inspired; but 
then the means to address it were provided along with the revelation. That 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
On the subject of Mel I will have to defer to the Christian thinking that goes 
something like this IF a man says he is right with Jesus, ask hiw wife and 
children not knowing Mel's ex, I won't make further comments.

I am curious however to know if that other teacher did take the suitcase across 
borders? 


I think if it had been me, I would have done it and taken out about a third for 
my efforts - if Marshy complained, I would quote Ferrari from Casablanca 
Carrying charges, my boy, carrying charges.

Although since it was Marshy, I would have said Marshy instead of my boy




 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha 
 try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full 
 of money across international borders is an interesting 
 feller to listen to

I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, 
and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, 
never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about 
either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put 
herself in the same room with him, such as...wait for 
it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid 
more attention to than others who did all these things.  :-)

Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's
film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that
her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot
is accurate, *never having seen the film*.  :-)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122

Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are
dealing with...

 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
  to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
  of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
  presence that they dast not speak ill of you
 
 Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
 there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
 haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
 to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
 because it tends not to stand up to examination).
 
 Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
 attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
 
 - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to 
 say - There is no accounting for taste.
  
  
   From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
  wrote:
  
   This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
   freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
   
   http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
  
  Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
  Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
  Mantra is required:
  
  Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
  of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
  from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
  the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
  
  Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
  that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
  Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
  some still revere Maharishi.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
All of this post is the usual feste retarded crap.

I am Ravi Chivukula (holding my clearly reddish, swollen nose hard) and I
approve this message.


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Most of this post is the usual authfriend crap, but I like the darling
 bit. I don't get called that nearly often enough, so I will take whatever I
 can get and hold my nose regarding the source.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
   to understand her. In this case making a fool of yourself
   means writing something I don't agree with.
 
  And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
  Go back and look at my original post
 
   In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
   in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar
   of authfriend speak, which we might define as a language
   developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people.
 
  What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid
  lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
  the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.
 
  You are way out of your league here, feste darling.
 
 
 
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
 just authfriend's malicious spin.
   
Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
something wildly inappropriate to the context.
   
And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
sense.
   
This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
*respect* when you do the latter.
   
   
   
   
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
 wrote:
 
  Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a
 noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to
 today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann,
 neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought,
 albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
 
 
 
  
  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and
 emptyB
 
 
  Â
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
 wrote:
  
   feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you
 for having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to
 develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to
 slinging us over their shoulder.
  
   In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches
 that since cave days, women fight dirty.
 
  And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's
 (n this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it
 that because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men
 they have to rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly
 to days gone by when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide
 one's young from a predator would involve elements of foresight, the
 ability to be spontaneous and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of
 some hungry mountain lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a
 term to lump all of these characteristics into one descriptive word like
 dirty is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk
 about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what
 could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
 
    We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the
 young because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe
 were off hunting or warring.
 
  We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of
 defense since the men were gone and might have been the first line even if
 they had been present.
  
   Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much
 more colorful language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If
 only to spare Buck who makes me smile just about 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 JS,

My name is Judy.

 I don't think that what Robin calls the mystical hallucination
 of his UC could, from the POV of simple logic, give rise to 
 intentions which you describe as the absolute best and purest.

I don't think the POV of simple logic (yours in particular)
is adequate to address that highly unusual situation such as
to be able to determine the nature of Robin's intentions. It's
the wrong tool for the job. (And in this case, your contorted, spiteful 
personal animus toward Robin, which drives you to 
find his intentions less than good and pure no matter what,
disqualifies you from having any useful insights into what was
going on.)

 Logic indicates simply that the intentions at their very
 inception were based in hallucination. I think calling them, 
 especially in hindsight, the absolute best and purest
 continues the hallucination in a small but significant
 amount. Significant because that small amount exists in the
 very core of the larger matter. Thus is useful IMO to be
 named.

I would not expect you to see things any differently, Share.
Your propensity to rewrite reality to suit your own needs
will not permit you to acquire a more subtle understanding
of the complex metaphysics of what took place with Robin and
his group.

 Yes, the whole situation became confusing, agonizing and
 eventually poignant. Even more reason to immediately name
 the hallucination or delusion or pragyaparadh when it
 appears so that unnecessary suffering can be avoided.

And what is it that will do this naming for us, Share?

Careful...

 PS  And yes again, I thought I was communicating with you and
 Ann in my posts about Edwin Coppard's ideas.  If you thought
 I wasn't, how would you change what I wrote to make it fall
 within your category of communicating?

Not playing that game with you, Share. I asked a question, you 
answered it. I did not express an opinion.



  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:40 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of 
 CULT
  
 
   
 Couple of comments below, Robin.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
 
  Dear Bill,
 
 snip
 
  Now since my enlightenment was a mystical hallucination, it
  meant that *the context which it gave birth to inside myself*,
  that too somewhere, no matter how true the process of
  confrontation and individuation appeared to be (and that
  process recreated reality, drove everyone into the deepest
  place one could ever go--and had ever gone), was untrue. **And
  what this meant--in the perspective after The Context was
  busted by a greater reality--was that this weakness in each
  person was simply what innocently each person had to do in
  order to survive as a human being inside the universe given
  that they were not perfect--and fallen. In other words, this 
  salient and ultimate weakness was not to be confronted--not
  even to be revealed.**
 
 snip
 
 JS: I don't think you've ever put it quite this way.
 
 I wasn't there, of course, but the more you tell us about
 all this, the more poignant it seems--the hope, the
 exhilaration, the absolute best and purest of intentions
 driving it, the huge effort and energy expended, and then
 the wrenching agony of confusion when it began to self-
 destruct.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha
 try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full
 of money across international borders is an interesting
 feller to listen to

The first dozen or so times you hear him tell the tale,
perhaps.

One also realizes after awhile that it's wise to have more
than one source for any particular tale or assertion from
Barry. (I have no reason to doubt the substance of this one,
but I might question whether Barry witnessed it himself.)





  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
  to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
  of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
  presence that they dast not speak ill of you
 
 Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
 there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
 haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
 to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
 because it tends not to stand up to examination).
 
 Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
 attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
 
 - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to 
 say - There is no accounting for taste.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ 
  wrote:
  
   This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
   freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
   
   http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
  
  Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
  Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
  Mantra is required:
  
  Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
  of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
  from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
  the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
  
  Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
  that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
  Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
  some still revere Maharishi.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha 
  try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full 
  of money across international borders is an interesting 
  feller to listen to
 
 I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, 
 and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, 
 never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about 
 either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put 
 herself in the same room with him

As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do
exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything
about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room.

So there you are, there's an example of why you should
not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you
can verify them from another source. His assertion
above is not fact.

, such as...wait for 
 it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid 
 more attention to than others who did all these things.  :-)

Nor is this.

 Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's
 film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that
 her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot
 is accurate, *never having seen the film*.  :-)
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122
 
 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are
 dealing with...

Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about
its being wise to have more than one source for one of 
Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the
record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to
actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but
if you do, you'll get quite an education.


  
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
   
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
   to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
   of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
   presence that they dast not speak ill of you
  
  Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
  there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
  haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
  to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
  because it tends not to stand up to examination).
  
  Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
  attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
  
  - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used 
  to say - There is no accounting for taste.
   
   
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
   
   
     
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman 
   martin.quickman@ wrote:
   
This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
freedom from all sorrow and suffering.

http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
   
   Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
   Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
   Mantra is required:
   
   Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
   of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
   from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
   the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
   
   Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
   that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
   Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
   some still revere Maharishi.
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re 
refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't 
really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner





 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha 
  try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full 
  of money across international borders is an interesting 
  feller to listen to
 
 I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, 
 and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, 
 never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about 
 either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put 
 herself in the same room with him

As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do
exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything
about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room.

So there you are, there's an example of why you should
not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you
can verify them from another source. His assertion
above is not fact.

, such as...wait for 
 it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid 
 more attention to than others who did all these things.  :-)

Nor is this.

 Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's
 film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that
 her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot
 is accurate, *never having seen the film*.  :-)
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122
 
 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are
 dealing with...

Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about
its being wise to have more than one source for one of 
Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the
record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to
actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but
if you do, you'll get quite an education.

  
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
   to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
   of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
   presence that they dast not speak ill of you
  
  Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
  there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
  haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
  to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
  because it tends not to stand up to examination).
  
  Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
  attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
  
  - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used 
  to say - There is no accounting for taste.
   
   
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
   
   
     
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman 
   martin.quickman@ wrote:
   
This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
freedom from all sorrow and suffering.

http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/
   
   Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
   Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
   Mantra is required:
   
   Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
   of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
   from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
   the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.
   
   Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
   that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
   Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
   some still revere Maharishi.
  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2012-12-06 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter
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Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 01 00:00:00 2012
End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 08 00:00:00 2012
720 messages as of (UTC) Thu Dec 06 23:29:33 2012

48 authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
47 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
46 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
46 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
45 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
44 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
40 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
39 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
35 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
33 Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
28 John jr_...@yahoo.com
26 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
25 doctordumb...@rocketmail.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
25 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
23 laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
22 seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com
20 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
17 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
14 card cardemais...@yahoo.com
13 salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
13 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
11 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
 7 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 6 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de
 6 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
 6 emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re 
 refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't 
 really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner

Well, I don't think you need to worry about that kind of
opinion of you. If somebody can actually challenge your
logic or facts, that's another matter. People here have a
rather distressing tendency to think the former is all
that's required to rebut an analysis.




 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha 
   try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full 
   of money across international borders is an interesting 
   feller to listen to
  
  I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, 
  and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, 
  never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about 
  either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put 
  herself in the same room with him
 
 As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do
 exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything
 about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room.
 
 So there you are, there's an example of why you should
 not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you
 can verify them from another source. His assertion
 above is not fact.
 
 , such as...wait for 
  it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid 
  more attention to than others who did all these things.  :-)
 
 Nor is this.
 
  Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's
  film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that
  her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot
  is accurate, *never having seen the film*.  :-)
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122
  
  Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are
  dealing with...
 
 Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about
 its being wise to have more than one source for one of 
 Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the
 record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to
 actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but
 if you do, you'll get quite an education.
 
   
From: authfriend authfriend@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
   
Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
presence that they dast not speak ill of you
   
   Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
   there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
   haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
   to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
   because it tends not to stand up to examination).
   
   Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
   attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
   
   - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages 
   used to say - There is no accounting for taste.


 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman 
martin.quickman@ wrote:

 This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and 
 freedom from all sorrow and suffering.
 
 http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/

Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either*
Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah
Mantra is required:

Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots
of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom
from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate'
the moolah. All that matters is that we get it.

Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere 
that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya
Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that
some still revere Maharishi.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Too Funny

2012-12-06 Thread Susan
I was at a lecture in Arosa Switzerland when Dr Wineless spoke.  He was 
brilliant but quirky, and MMY kept saying his name wrong, then, too. Some of us 
got the giggles and it was one of those times we just could not stop laughing 
and had to try to keep quiet.  I had to leave the room...laughed and 
laughed outside for about 30 minutes.  It was great.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote:

 I just got this from an old friend who graduated from MIU when it was still 
 MIU.
 
 
 I remember one time Sam Boothby was teaching an education class where he was 
 showing a Maharishi video.  In this video Maharishi said an enlightened man 
 never mistakes.  
 
 Earlier in the tape he was calling Dr. Michael Wineless, Wineberg. 
 
 I asked Sam if Maharishi made a mistake.  
 He yelled back at me and the whole class: We must never say Maharishi makes 
 mistakes!  We can't say from our unenlightened viewpoint!
 
 Then I said: If I can't judge from my unelightened stress-cluttered nervous 
 system, then how can I know if I'm hearing and processing all of Maharishi's 
 discourse correctly--especially those on CC, GC, and UC?  
 
 Mark Kurita yelled out Good question!

 Sam ignored me when my hand was up for the rest of the semester.  I was just 
 too filled with stress.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Too Funny

2012-12-06 Thread doctordumbass
I think of it as nobody ever makes mistakes, however, as a distinguishing 
characteristic, an enlightened person KNOWS that they do not make mistakes.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote:

 I just got this from an old friend who graduated from MIU when it was still 
 MIU.
 
 
 I remember one time Sam Boothby was teaching an education class where he was 
 showing a Maharishi video.  In this video Maharishi said an enlightened man 
 never mistakes.  
 
 Earlier in the tape he was calling Dr. Michael Wineless, Wineberg. 
 
 I asked Sam if Maharishi made a mistake.  
 He yelled back at me and the whole class: We must never say Maharishi makes 
 mistakes!  We can't say from our unenlightened viewpoint!
 
 Then I said: If I can't judge from my unelightened stress-cluttered nervous 
 system, then how can I know if I'm hearing and processing all of Maharishi's 
 discourse correctly--especially those on CC, GC, and UC?  
 
 Mark Kurita yelled out Good question!

 Sam ignored me when my hand was up for the rest of the semester.  I was just 
 too filled with stress.





[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Nonprofit group plans to reopen former Co-Ed Theater

2012-12-06 Thread Buck
FW: Girindra Selleck was the only participant tall enough to reach the area on 
the old Co-Ed marquee to put up the new lettering stating that a new theater is 
coming in 2013. Handing the letters to him is Neil Cunningham, while his father 
Thomas Selleck gives directions. The reopened theater will be called the 
Orpheum Theatre under nonprofit status and will show first run movies in the 
remodeled space.

The Co-Ed Theater is exhibiting signs of life for the first time since Big Time 
Cinema deserted the operation due to bankruptcy less than three months ago.

A handful of residents gathered at noon Wednesday to letter the vacant marquee 
to read, New Theatre coming 2013. The declaration was the first visible 
indication of new management, not by a private operator as might be expected, 
but instead by a gathering of citizens eager to transform the facility into a 
state-of-the-art, community-run theater. To that end, about a dozen residents 
led by Patricia Draznin, Sheila Ross and John Matthews have formed a nonprofit 
registered with the state, the Orpheum Theatre and Fairfield Film Institute.

While many were mourning the loss of the Co-Ed in September, Draznin secretly 
rejoiced. She had her eye on the Co-Ed ever since she read about the State 
Theatre in Traverse City, Mich., in 2007. She learned how the nonprofit 
Traverse City Film Festival refurbished the century theater with the help of 
director Michael Moore, where it now shows 365 movies per year.

When the news broke the Co-Ed had closed, Draznin said she picked up her phone 
immediately to call the theater's managing owner, Chris Johnson of Mandala 6 
Land Partners.

I told him, `I'm really excited the Co-Ed closed, it's a great opportunity,' 
said Draznin. We could turn it into something really good.

Draznin was not alone. Johnson said he received a flood of calls from people 
with ideas for the theater's future.

Johnson encouraged the group to form a nonprofit, which would allow them the 
freedom to choose movies, and to raise the money to convert both theaters to 
digital technology, the new industrywide standard.

Draznin began researching for examples of communities that successfully had 
raised money to refurbish their town's historic movie theaters. She found a 
dozen in Iowa including, Pella, Washington, De Witt, Lake Mills, Marshalltown, 
Denison and Mount Pleasant.

All over Iowa there are theaters, which have already done the same thing and 
succeeded in refurbishing, converting to digital and are now operating in the 
black, she said. We feel very confident that once we're ready to start taking 
donations, it's not going to be a big deal to do.

The committee hopes to raise approximately $300,000 to upgrade both screens, 
install a new sound system and to put in stadium seating. Johnson plans to 
invest in renovating the lobby and bathrooms. Mandala 6 Land Partners will 
manage the project.

The committee's vision is for the theater to feature a variety of first-run 
movies, old classics and independent films. They plan to have offerings for all 
ages, with weekend matinees for children, late-night shows for college students 
and film festivals and premieres. The nonprofit will run the movie theater.

Johnson plans to restore the century-old lobby to grandeur with art nouveau or 
art deco styling. He also will provide seating for about 40 people at couches 
and tables, who can enjoy café items and beverages from several vendors.

It's a real labor of love, said Draznin. What could be more fun than 
restoring your hometown movie theater?

The committee is in the process of forming an executive board, which will steer 
the activities of the theater and manage subcommittees in charge of movie 
selection, fundraising, etc. Draznin said there is no lack of volunteers.

The minute we made the announcement, people began offering expertise, 
assistance, and some already have offered donations, she said.

A subcommittee soon will approach the community for donations, she said. The 
nonprofit also will likely apply for government funding through state grants, 
but Draznin said they do not plan to ask the city for financial support.

Gathering feedback from the community is currently top on the committee's list. 
In the next couple of weeks, the group will be dispersing a film survey 
throughout town.

This will be a chance to tell us how we can best serve the community, she 
said. Fairfield has a very wide range of interests, and we want to satisfy 
everyone, she said. We want to make sure we're really tuned in.

While an opening date isn't fixed, Johnson has estimated the theater will be 
running within the next six months.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Too Funny

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh no, that one KNOWS - has given rise to all kinds of charlatans like
Maharishi, Ammachi and the cults around them. The minute one says they KNOW
they are no longer vulnerable and are totally ripe to make mistakes. Every
moment is potent with new information, new knowledge, new discovery so if
one claims to be enlightened then one would think they are always open,
alert, vulnerable - ever ready to refine themselves. So in this scenario
every past action is a candidate to be marked as a mistake. Based upon this
we can easily conclude that people Maharishi  Ammachi who claim they know
are either delusional or charlatans - clearly the latter, street smart both.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:58 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **


 I think of it as nobody ever makes mistakes, however, as a distinguishing
 characteristic, an enlightened person KNOWS that they do not make mistakes.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote:
 
  I just got this from an old friend who graduated from MIU when it was
 still MIU.
 
 
  I remember one time Sam Boothby was teaching an education class where he
 was showing a Maharishi video. In this video Maharishi said an enlightened
 man never mistakes.
 
  Earlier in the tape he was calling Dr. Michael Wineless, Wineberg.
 
  I asked Sam if Maharishi made a mistake.
  He yelled back at me and the whole class: We must never say Maharishi
 makes mistakes! We can't say from our unenlightened viewpoint!
 
  Then I said: If I can't judge from my unelightened stress-cluttered
 nervous system, then how can I know if I'm hearing and processing all of
 Maharishi's discourse correctly--especially those on CC, GC, and UC?
 
  Mark Kurita yelled out Good question!
 
  Sam ignored me when my hand was up for the rest of the semester. I was
 just too filled with stress.
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Too Funny

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I just read this post on FB, an example of this retarded bullshit from
these charlatans. This person calls herself as Divine Mother, divine
retarded mother of retards like feste, Buck clearly..LOL..

Our Divine Mother has given us some very important instructions while She
was here in Michigan in November. Her Deep concern for the volatile
condition of people's minds, along with agitated vibrations in the
atmosphere at this time create a situation in which tempers will flare
easily, angry thoughts, words  actions can easily create senseless
violence and war-like behavior. The tension that this condition creates is
akin to a small match being thrown into a gallon of gasoline and a huge
explosion can take place, burning down an entire city block, when the match
could have simply been extinguished under a wise person's foot.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh no, that one KNOWS - has given rise to all kinds of charlatans like
 Maharishi, Ammachi and the cults around them. The minute one says they KNOW
 they are no longer vulnerable and are totally ripe to make mistakes. Every
 moment is potent with new information, new knowledge, new discovery so if
 one claims to be enlightened then one would think they are always open,
 alert, vulnerable - ever ready to refine themselves. So in this scenario
 every past action is a candidate to be marked as a mistake. Based upon this
 we can easily conclude that people Maharishi  Ammachi who claim they know
 are either delusional or charlatans - clearly the latter, street smart both.

 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:58 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **


 I think of it as nobody ever makes mistakes, however, as a distinguishing
 characteristic, an enlightened person KNOWS that they do not make mistakes.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  I just got this from an old friend who graduated from MIU when it was
 still MIU.
 
 
  I remember one time Sam Boothby was teaching an education class where
 he was showing a Maharishi video. In this video Maharishi said an
 enlightened man never mistakes.
 
  Earlier in the tape he was calling Dr. Michael Wineless, Wineberg.
 
  I asked Sam if Maharishi made a mistake.
  He yelled back at me and the whole class: We must never say Maharishi
 makes mistakes! We can't say from our unenlightened viewpoint!
 
  Then I said: If I can't judge from my unelightened stress-cluttered
 nervous system, then how can I know if I'm hearing and processing all of
 Maharishi's discourse correctly--especially those on CC, GC, and UC?
 
  Mark Kurita yelled out Good question!
 
  Sam ignored me when my hand was up for the rest of the semester. I was
 just too filled with stress.
 

  





[FairfieldLife] Ripped

2012-12-06 Thread raunchydog
New Video: Black  Gold Men's High Bar intra-team competition kicks off opening 
of gymnastics season at University of Iowa, December 2, Iowa City.
http://youtu.be/BJfXVAarJ9A



[FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread John
In hindsight, McAfee is probably better off if he had stayed here in the USA.  
Now, he's in a foreign land, in trouble with the law, and may end up in jail 
for a long time.  For him, the party is over.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Not sure why partying too much would be a problem in Belize because it 
 is a tourist country and likes to party.   Like you said in another post 
 you gotta pay off the officials. I once heard that to travel in Mexico 
 before the current gangland violence you gave the local cops enough 
 dough to buy a six-pack and they left you alone.  Americans get very 
 upset with such graft even though we do have it here but it is more covert.
 
 On 12/06/2012 11:56 AM, John wrote:
  The news reported that McAfee was partying too much in Belize.  So karma 
  has some unpredictable ways of coming back at you.  Now, he's on the run 
  and detained in Guatemala.
 
  http://news.yahoo.com/held-guatemala-software-guru-mcafee-fights-deportation-183614586--finance.html
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out; cocaine.
  If you wanna get down, down on the ground; cocaine.
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
  If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; cocaine.
  When your day is done and you wanna run; cocaine.
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
  If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; cocaine.
  Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; cocaine.
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
  She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
 
  Songwriters: GASS, JAMES D. / THICKE, ROBIN A.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
  He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted to 
  question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how this 
  story ends sooner or later.
 
  http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312
 
 
  I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the
  problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in
  power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been
  mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't
  have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a
  haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak
  English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they
  drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead of
  paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police
  stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently
  the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor
  was found dead they pinned it on him.
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

2012-12-06 Thread emptybill
Wonderful performances everyone.

What brilliant addendums to the vocal
ornamentations of Donizetti's Lucia.

You all are of the highest literary amplitude
by recreating the mad scene right here on FFL.

And by the way. Remember that video the Judy
was praising?

Anyone actually watch it?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 Wonderful performances.

 That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
 thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
 by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
 that is.

 Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
 heart out but also put a grenade under your
 body to greet anyone rolling you over.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
 wrote:
 
  Three Netrebko videos...
 
  Quando m'en vo (Musetta's Waltz) from Puccini's La Boheme
  (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
  need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
  nicely.)
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
 
 
  Sempre libera from Verdi's Traviata
  (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
 interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
  ability.)
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgYfeature=endscreenNR=1
 
 
  Mad Scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
  (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
  production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
  and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
  scene, over 10 minutes.)
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
  
  
   Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
  
   But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
  
   Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky
and
   Renee Fleming in post #328213.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You
must
   have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
 wrote:


 Oh yeah?

 Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
 but
   ...
 it also is so hot.

 No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
 kiss.
   But
 it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience
loved
 it.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenNR=1v=UgpVoMPGbUA




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@
 wrote:
 
  Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of
a
   female
 opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
 this
 regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the
following
   clip,
 especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
   malfunction,
 which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
 strap):
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the
aria
 is
   good
 too.)
 
 
  My favorite Cecilia is this:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
  It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as
an
   encore.
 It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
 still
   while
 they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her
 face
   when
 she is finished.
 
  Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men
would
   love to
 have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a
handful
   though.
 
  Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of
 Clemenza di
 Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@
   wrote:
  
  
   Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna
 Netrebko,
 sing
   the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt
 that
   they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they
give
   song.
   No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
  
   Also,
  
  
   Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous
 performance
   in
 the
   palace at St. Petersburg
   (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodwfeature=related
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodwfeature=related
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: John McAfee Arrested in Guatemala

2012-12-06 Thread John
After this adventure, we can only hope that he gets out alive.  
Also, he'd probably lose a lot of money for government fees, payoffs, and his 
lawyers' fees.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 From multimillionaire, to cautionary tale - though I am not sure karma is all 
 that unpredictable for him - hope he is enjoying his adventure!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  The news reported that McAfee was partying too much in Belize.  So karma 
  has some unpredictable ways of coming back at you.  Now, he's on the run 
  and detained in Guatemala.
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/held-guatemala-software-guru-mcafee-fights-deportation-183614586--finance.html
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out; cocaine.
   If you wanna get down, down on the ground; cocaine.
   She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
   
   If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; cocaine.
   When your day is done and you wanna run; cocaine.
   She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
   
   If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; cocaine.
   Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; cocaine.
   She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
   
   She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie; cocaine.
   
   Songwriters: GASS, JAMES D. / THICKE, ROBIN A.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
On 12/05/2012 09:51 PM, John wrote:
 He appears to be confident in escaping the Belize police who wanted 
 to question him about the murder of his neighbor.  We'll find out how 
 this story ends sooner or later.

 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/john-mcafee-arrested-guatemala-entering-country-illegally/story?id=17884312



I heard McAfee interviewed on Alex Jones show recently.   He claims the 
problem is that Belize is corrupt and if you don't pay off those in 
power there they'll make your life miserable.  This claim has been 
mentioned in some of the news reports and of course if true you won't 
have the Belize officials admitting it.  Belize has been mentioned as a 
haven for US expats because being a former British colony they speak 
English and not Spanish and unlike other former British colonies they 
drive on the right hand side of the road. McAfee claimed that instead 
of 
paying off officials he bought equipment and outfits for the police 
stations and other charitable institutions in the country.  Apparently 
the family running the country didn't like that and when the neighbor 
was found dead they pinned it on him.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't 
 understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't 
 matter anyway - according to some here I don't really 
 understand that much of anything - I am a confused 
 Southerner

It's not that important, Michael, just an example
of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film
Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of
it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed
along the information in her normal way, as if it
were definitive. The subject line of the post,
calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making
the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, 
NOT anything that was in the review she read.

She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is
that she will STILL claim to know that it's an
example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and
that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory
subject line of the post, and adds this at the end:

 To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves
 implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and
 mangled history for the purpose of exalting the
 purported superiority of Christianity.

Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something
to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi.
Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made
*one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that,
and never felt the need to try to make another. But 
she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and 
understand every little thing that this guy she 
never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. 

I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing 
because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander-
ous statements about the director of a film she
never bothered to see. 

 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha 
   try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full 
   of money across international borders is an interesting 
   feller to listen to
  
  I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, 
  and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, 
  never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about 
  either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put 
  herself in the same room with him
 
 As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do
 exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything
 about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room.
 
 So there you are, there's an example of why you should
 not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you
 can verify them from another source. His assertion
 above is not fact.
 
 , such as...wait for 
  it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid 
  more attention to than others who did all these things.  :-)
 
 Nor is this.
 
  Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's
  film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that
  her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot
  is accurate, *never having seen the film*.  :-)
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122
  
  Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are
  dealing with...
 
 Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about
 its being wise to have more than one source for one of 
 Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the
 record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to
 actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but
 if you do, you'll get quite an education.
 
   
From: authfriend authfriend@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
   
Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead
to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part
of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty
presence that they dast not speak ill of you
   
   Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
   there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You
   haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new
   to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look,
   because it tends not to stand up to examination).
   
   Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much
   attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him.
   
   - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages 
   used to say - There is no accounting for taste.


 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Bzzt...back off King Baby, stop obsessing on Judy, stop being such an
attention vampire !!!

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't
  understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't
  matter anyway - according to some here I don't really
  understand that much of anything - I am a confused
  Southerner

 It's not that important, Michael, just an example
 of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film
 Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of
 it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed
 along the information in her normal way, as if it
 were definitive. The subject line of the post,
 calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making
 the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea,
 NOT anything that was in the review she read.

 She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is
 that she will STILL claim to know that it's an
 example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and
 that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory
 subject line of the post, and adds this at the end:

  To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves
  implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and
  mangled history for the purpose of exalting the
  purported superiority of Christianity.

 Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something
 to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi.
 Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made
 *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that,
 and never felt the need to try to make another. But
 she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and
 understand every little thing that this guy she
 never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it.

 I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing
 because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander-
 ous statements about the director of a film she
 never bothered to see.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra

2012-12-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I just checked Barry baby - you made this post at 7:05 AM? What the fuck is
wrong with you - goddamn it - play with the little girl, take the dogs out
for a walk, listen to the Church bells, meditate but please stop obsessing.
OMG !!! I can't believe I have to tell you all this every time, you are
starting to worry me Barry.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bzzt...back off King Baby, stop obsessing on Judy, stop being such an
 attention vampire !!!

 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
  its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't
  understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't
  matter anyway - according to some here I don't really
  understand that much of anything - I am a confused
  Southerner

 It's not that important, Michael, just an example
 of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film
 Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of
 it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed
 along the information in her normal way, as if it
 were definitive. The subject line of the post,
 calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making
 the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea,
 NOT anything that was in the review she read.

 She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is
 that she will STILL claim to know that it's an
 example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and
 that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory
 subject line of the post, and adds this at the end:

  To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves
  implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and
  mangled history for the purpose of exalting the
  purported superiority of Christianity.

 Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something
 to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi.
 Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made
 *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that,
 and never felt the need to try to make another. But
 she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and
 understand every little thing that this guy she
 never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it.

 I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing
 because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander-
 ous statements about the director of a film she
 never bothered to see.