[FairfieldLife] Re: Joy of Google....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Maybe you should see this one, I don't think she / they are joking. I think they are very serious about it. It's a sort of interview with her friend Arcturus Ra - (his real name is, uh, I have to look it up) Interesting. I love meditating in the woods in a mindful type of way but haven't tried focusing on the head chakra before. I shall try this for a while and see what happens. But where does the contacting of cosmic beings come from? It sounds a bit pat to say they just mistake their inner voice for something external and all the accumulated cultural junk we all have is subconsciously turned into a coherent belief system from a different perceived voice. Actually I'm pretty sure that's what happens but how does the mechanism work? Julian Jaynes wrote one of the most amazing books on the subject of mysterious inner voices, The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. His idea is that humans evolved their current type of mental functioning via a different route than previously supposed, namely that we used to have minds that were split in two and hallucinated voices that we thought were our gods. Basically, until the late iron age we weren't conscious in the way we are now. If theory is true then it's a good explanation for channeling (among a great many other curious mental events), perhaps meditation can re-awaken this older type of mental functioning? I'm speculating wildly about a possible link here but the theory is fascinating, but the book is long and involved though but well worth a read anyway as it gives you new way of looking at the mind and humanity. I have no idea if he is right or wrong or maybe just partly right. Here's a short appraisal but he has much more evidence to support it, or at least evidence that doesn't contradict it: Bicameralism (psychology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology) Bicameralism (psychology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology) Bicameralism (the philosophy of two-chamberedness) is a hypothesis in psychology that argues that the human mind once assumed a state in which cognitive functions were divided between one part of the brain which appears to be speaking, and a second part whi... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology) Preview by Yahoo Being in Your Heart with Arcturus RA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs Being in Your Heart with Arcturus RA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs About living in the strongest chakra, the heart chakra incl. clearing the mind, the inner child, giving space, manifesting better partnerships, tough decisio... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear Aryavazhi, “Honestly”? Apologizing for ? To who? I don't feel this is an apology I could take across lines over to our former colleagues in forum at The_Peak. And it wasn't meant to be taken accross to them, I didn't mention the_peak nor did I mentions you as a messenger. Just FYI, I wasn't present when the_peak split off, so I don't think anybody expects an apology. Regarding that other issue, you mentioned, well it is embarrassing.. I will explain it to you, just to you, not any other ill-willing people out there. It's embarrassing, because people are supposed to get it. It's like with jokes: the moment you have to explain a joke, that moment it isn't a joke anymore. FFL has had it's own history of satirical comments, which employs irony, sarcasm etc. In satire words and sentences are not to be taken literarly, they are usually strongly exaggerated, in order to make a point clear, the language is sketchy, not exact, but is meant to get to the heart of the matter. Usually, in satire, there are some clues, through which you could detect it as such. For example, if I say that someone visted one and a half courses in his life, it is obvious at first sight, that there are no 'half courses', so even Judy in her mad replic asked, what does that mean? Well, what could it mean? It's clear there was a clue here right at the start of my ironical / satirical interception. If you wanted a literal translation of this sentence, then 1 and 1/2 courses meant, little more than one, or just very many. In other words: A very insignificant exposure to the movement teachings, the people in the movement, movement places, always in comparision to those, who had a more significant exposure, who spent many years, day after day, without interruption in a movement environment, who met Maharishi and many other movement luminaries, who have been privy to the inside story of things. It is clear to them, clear to everybody, even Judy, that this is the case. There is no discussion about it. Contrast that with many people here, who for many years were engaged, like Barry 1, who was a national administrator, or myself, who spent more than 10 years continously in the inside movement. While she spent all this time, more than 10 years continously hanging around this and other internet forums. Yes, she did more than 1 1/2 courses, after all she did the sidhis, she made an short (!) SCI course, wow, she even got a Chopra technique! And the advanced techniques: she got one, but for years hasn't got one, and I made this joke, that she didn't do so , because she is afraid of speaking her mantra aloud! Now that has a very real basis, as she explained it here in discussions earlier, I think Lawson was involved at the time, that her mantra go so, so, so subtle, that it even hurts her, if she would see it in print. How could you not get ironic about that! Guru Dev used to worship a Shri Yantra which had all the mantras, including all TM mantras inscribed in devanagari. But enough of this, it was meant to be clear, and people get it, or don't get it. Also, I am not here to build up a recognition. The people I admire most in my life, spiritually speaking, have a strong sense of detachment (or non-attachment), and desinterest for personal recognition. This is IMO spiritual 101. So if people choose to thing bad of me, think I am a thuggie or liar, it's their calling. It's okay, their choice, I have nothing to do with it. So back to my 'apology' above. It was also in form and partly a mock apology, of course. And it had nothing to do with you and the peaksters, except that I made fun for this 'call for an apology'. But directed toward some other people here, I mentioned Alex in the post, but of course it was also directed to the two Barries, and anyone else, who felt that the absense of Judy, and the exodus of the peaksters was an improvement on FFL, so indeed, I felt sorry for them, as I had brought about a situation, seemingly at least, which was already overcome. With regard to Judy: we are all human beings, and we all make mistakes, so as a human being, I wish her well, and a long life, and good health. I certainly do not for a moment wish the misfortune of a human being. But as to the persona Judy here online on FFL, she is already dead to me, she has died, when she took leave and when I found that out after some time. And she won't come back to life for me any moment, here whole bizzare and absurd performance here, was more like if somebody forgot to switch off an old record, which was somehow on autoloop. Aryavazhi writes: I honestly want to apologize to anyone on this message board, as well as any others who need to lurk here, for having invoked her presence in a way she found irresistable. I am weighing this offer of yours against your recent indictment here. See: FFL post # 413933
[FairfieldLife] Allusional version of Voodoo Chile (slight return)
HASSE WALLI - VOODOO CHILD (Slight Return) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhrbRmmvdQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhrbRmmvdQ HASSE WALLI - VOODOO CHILD (Slight Return) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhrbRmmvdQ Filmed on March 10th, 2007 at Juttutupa, Helsinki, Finland. Blasting version. On this gig legendary drummer Vesa Aaltonen (of Tasavallan Presidentti, Jukka T... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhrbRmmvdQ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Joy of Google....
Maybe you should see this one, I don't think she / they are joking. I think they are very serious about it. It's a sort of interview with her friend Arcturus Ra - (his real name is, uh, I have to look it up) Being in Your Heart with Arcturus RA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs Being in Your Heart with Arcturus RA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs About living in the strongest chakra, the heart chakra incl. clearing the mind, the inner child, giving space, manifesting better partnerships, tough decisio... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVm29n4tcs Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Joy of Google....
Here is some more, from a different person Arcturian Channeling Explained + Cannabis + Honesty Rules! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ncNSART2Zcfeature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ncNSART2Zcfeature=youtu.be Arcturian Channeling Explained + Cannabis + H... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ncNSART2Zcfeature=youtu.be Book a reading or coaching session: http://www.christinamartine.com/services Blog: http://www.christinamartine.com Download my free e-book: http://christ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ncNSART2Zcfeature=youtu.be Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Escape to the stars or die....
Humans should go and live in space within the next 1,000 years, or it will die out, Stephen Hawking has warned. We must continue to go into space for the future of humanity, I don't think we will survive another 1,000 years without escaping beyond our fragile planet. Look at up at the stars and not down at your feet.” “Try to make sense of what you see and wonder about what makes a universe exist. Be curious, and however difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do and succeed at. It matters that you don’t just give up.” Stephen Hawking on why everyone must go into space http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking-humanity-needs-to-live-in-space-or-die-out-physicist-warns-via-hologram-10206243.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking-humanity-needs-to-live-in-space-or-die-out-physicist-warns-via-hologram-10206243.html Stephen Hawking on why everyone must go into space http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking-humanity-needs-to-live-in-space-or-die-out-physicist-warns-via-hologram-10206243.html Humans should go and live in space within the next 1,000 years, or it will die out, Stephen Hawking has warned. View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking-humanity-needs-to-live-in-space-or-die-out-physicist-warns-via-hologram-10206243.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
How can you imaging that anyone - and I mean anyone - would choose to read through this load of bumpf below? --- The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating in 'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of 'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems a willing kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process in disconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element has been driven out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominant methodical use of personal invective in the ad hominem used as weapon to personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type of, Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently thoughtful conversation takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to have productive conversation. Some have done their poisonous work here with the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people away.The cultural place that was FFL seems to have been poisoned. The place evidently has died for lack of a willing collaboration as an oxygen that could include other points of view other than some caustic character of dominant internet haters and personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snark parading as 'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here at FFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a few people who came on before you came along and added to it in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals' default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say on the people they don't like. :-)Good timing, Turqb,Left or driven off? This as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on one level Anartaxius except, the low post and dwindled active member counts may show something else.Looking in on the culture of what is FFL now, is it a surprise the numbers have dropped off when there is so much about Fairfield or larger spiritual matter being talked about otherwise by others actively involved in it? No, it is like the well was poisoned here by some.Ironically
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. Like, someone at work with nothing to do, or someone who is living alone out in the back of beyond, cut off from society and people, living in a shack in the cold. Or, someone sitting alone at a cafe browsing the internet on their laptop running Microsoft Vista - would probably welcome any kind of communication. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : How can you imaging that anyone - and I mean anyone - would choose to read through this load of bumpf below? --- The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating in 'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of 'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems a willing kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process in disconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element has been driven out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominant methodical use of personal invective in the ad hominem used as weapon to personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type of, Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently thoughtful conversation takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to have productive conversation. Some have done their poisonous work here with the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people away.The cultural place that was FFL seems to have been poisoned. The place evidently has died for lack of a willing collaboration as an oxygen that could include other points of view other than some caustic character of dominant internet haters and personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snark parading as 'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here at FFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a few people who came on before you came along and added to it in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals' default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say on the people they don't like. :-)Good timing, Turqb,Left or
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I must point out that most of the defectors to Enlightened Jimmy's enclave were just as bad at reviling and name calling as the rest of us, a fact they conveniently forget. Not to mention their childishness, and look at the arrogance of Judes parting post title! What does it tell you about her that she thinks she has some sort of power to actually upset people? From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now LOL. I hadn't bothered to check, but the coverage of her drive-by over there is pretty funny. My favorite is Ann, trying her best to get that tongue of hers firmly up Judy's ass again: Good Bye Judy It was great to see you again. You could never make a dent in the miasmic wall that exists over at FFL but I applaud you for facing the stink without full face mask and hazard suit. It doesn't matter that the boneheads over there are addicted to their male obnoxiousness and gang-like mentality because it has nothing to do with you and why you spoke up. You have been dealing with the likes of bawee for a long time now and with Sal and that other guy with the 'a' name who are even more pathetic because they are simply too dumb and too careless to do anything but enable b.r. it is no wonder you need to step back on the train and 'get outta Dodge' after such a short 'visit'. The appearance of someone who is 'not like them' just shines a brilliant spotlight on why most of the list is either not posting there or has come to The Peak. These three do not seem to understand (remember, boneheads) that when someone or somewhere gets too noxious it is the normal and natural thing to turn away from that noxiousness. FFL is just that place. So, thanks for dropping by, Judy. I wish you all the happiness that is available to you in this world. While we all still have a breath to take and an ability to make a decision or a choice there is a real chance for happy reward and while life can be amazingly fickle in its ability to turn our lives this way and that (I speak for myself here and with reference to the last 12 months of my own life) we can find ourselves suddenly in the place we never thought possible while all was turmoil or fear or uncertainty (still talkin' about me). I don't know if you'll appear again but I hope one day you will join The Peak where those with a respect and interest in each other dominates any differences of opinion - a place that is exactly what FFL is not. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak. No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point? On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time. What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to any of these posts, my follow-up is: I stand by what I wrote. Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes. Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
You failed to mention that those who remain on FFL are the ones who all got kicked out of the TMO, while most of the ones on The_Peak are still in good standing - this is a fact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not to mention their childishness, Non sequitur. We still don't know who you are - you could be an TMer impostor. At least over on The_Peak, we know who we are dialoging with. On FFL, anyone with a computer and an internet connection could post TMO status claims to the group. and look at the arrogance of Judes parting post title! Non sequitur. What does it tell you about her that she thinks she has some sort of power to actually upset people? Non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I must point out that most of the defectors to Enlightened Jimmy's enclave were just as bad at reviling and name calling as the rest of us, a fact they conveniently forget. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now LOL. I hadn't bothered to check, but the coverage of her drive-by over there is pretty funny. My favorite is Ann, trying her best to get that tongue of hers firmly up Judy's ass again: Good Bye Judy It was great to see you again. You could never make a dent in the miasmic wall that exists over at FFL but I applaud you for facing the stink without full face mask and hazard suit. It doesn't matter that the boneheads over there are addicted to their male obnoxiousness and gang-like mentality because it has nothing to do with you and why you spoke up. You have been dealing with the likes of bawee for a long time now and with Sal and that other guy with the 'a' name who are even more pathetic because they are simply too dumb and too careless to do anything but enable b.r. it is no wonder you need to step back on the train and 'get outta Dodge' after such a short 'visit'. The appearance of someone who is 'not like them' just shines a brilliant spotlight on why most of the list is either not posting there or has come to The Peak. These three do not seem to understand (remember, boneheads) that when someone or somewhere gets too noxious it is the normal and natural thing to turn away from that noxiousness. FFL is just that place. So, thanks for dropping by, Judy. I wish you all the happiness that is available to you in this world. While we all still have a breath to take and an ability to make a decision or a choice there is a real chance for happy reward and while life can be amazingly fickle in its ability to turn our lives this way and that (I speak for myself here and with reference to the last 12 months of my own life) we can find ourselves suddenly in the place we never thought possible while all was turmoil or fear or uncertainty (still talkin' about me). I don't know if you'll appear again but I hope one day you will join The Peak where those with a respect and interest in each other dominates any differences of opinion - a place that is exactly what FFL is not. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak. No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point? On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time. What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
LOL. I hadn't bothered to check, but the coverage of her drive-by over there
is pretty funny. My favorite is Ann, trying her best to get that tongue of hers
firmly up Judy's ass again:
Good Bye Judy
It was great to see you again. You could never make a dent in the miasmic wall
that exists over at FFL but I applaud you for facing the stink without full
face mask and hazard suit. It doesn't matter that the boneheads over there are
addicted to their male obnoxiousness and gang-like mentality because it has
nothing to do with you and why you spoke up. You have been dealing with the
likes of bawee for a long time now and with Sal and that other guy with the 'a'
name who are even more pathetic because they are simply too dumb and too
careless to do anything but enable b.r. it is no wonder you need to step back
on the train and 'get outta Dodge' after such a short 'visit'. The appearance
of someone who is 'not like them' just shines a brilliant spotlight on why most
of the list is either not posting there or has come to The Peak. These three do
not seem to understand (remember, boneheads) that when someone or somewhere
gets too noxious it is the normal and natural thing to turn away from that
noxiousness. FFL is just that place.
So, thanks for dropping by, Judy. I wish you all the happiness that is
available to you in this world. While we all still have a breath to take and an
ability to make a decision or a choice there is a real chance for happy reward
and while life can be amazingly fickle in its ability to turn our lives this
way and that (I speak for myself here and with reference to the last 12 months
of my own life) we can find ourselves suddenly in the place we never thought
possible while all was turmoil or fear or uncertainty (still talkin' about me).
I don't know if you'll appear again but I hope one day you will join The Peak
where those with a respect and interest in each other dominates any differences
of opinion - a place that is exactly what FFL is not.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an
imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak.
No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point?
On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping
grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually
not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then
the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental
embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the
various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which
ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time.
What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If
anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and
what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less
insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as
some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever
so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to
any of these posts, my follow-up is:
I stand by what I wrote.
Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate
misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may
decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes.
Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew.
Bye.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : LOL. I hadn't bothered to check, but the coverage of her drive-by over there is pretty funny. My favorite is Ann, trying her best to get that tongue of hers firmly up Judy's ass again: LOL, male obnoxiousness and gang like mentality. Erm, it is OK to laugh at that isn't it boss? Good Bye Judy It was great to see you again. You could never make a dent in the miasmic wall that exists over at FFL but I applaud you for facing the stink without full face mask and hazard suit. It doesn't matter that the boneheads over there are addicted to their male obnoxiousness and gang-like mentality because it has nothing to do with you and why you spoke up. You have been dealing with the likes of bawee for a long time now and with Sal and that other guy with the 'a' name who are even more pathetic because they are simply too dumb and too careless to do anything but enable b.r. it is no wonder you need to step back on the train and 'get outta Dodge' after such a short 'visit'. The appearance of someone who is 'not like them' just shines a brilliant spotlight on why most of the list is either not posting there or has come to The Peak. These three do not seem to understand (remember, boneheads) that when someone or somewhere gets too noxious it is the normal and natural thing to turn away from that noxiousness. FFL is just that place. So, thanks for dropping by, Judy. I wish you all the happiness that is available to you in this world. While we all still have a breath to take and an ability to make a decision or a choice there is a real chance for happy reward and while life can be amazingly fickle in its ability to turn our lives this way and that (I speak for myself here and with reference to the last 12 months of my own life) we can find ourselves suddenly in the place we never thought possible while all was turmoil or fear or uncertainty (still talkin' about me). I don't know if you'll appear again but I hope one day you will join The Peak where those with a respect and interest in each other dominates any differences of opinion - a place that is exactly what FFL is not. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak. No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point? On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time. What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to any of these posts, my follow-up is: I stand by what I wrote. Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes. Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
I must point out that most of the defectors to Enlightened Jimmy's enclave were
just as bad at reviling and name calling as the rest of us, a fact they
conveniently forget.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
LOL. I hadn't bothered to check, but the coverage of her drive-by over
there is pretty funny. My favorite is Ann, trying her best to get that tongue
of hers firmly up Judy's ass again:
Good Bye Judy
It was great to see you again. You could never make a dent in the miasmic wall
that exists over at FFL but I applaud you for facing the stink without full
face mask and hazard suit. It doesn't matter that the boneheads over there are
addicted to their male obnoxiousness and gang-like mentality because it has
nothing to do with you and why you spoke up. You have been dealing with the
likes of bawee for a long time now and with Sal and that other guy with the 'a'
name who are even more pathetic because they are simply too dumb and too
careless to do anything but enable b.r. it is no wonder you need to step back
on the train and 'get outta Dodge' after such a short 'visit'. The appearance
of someone who is 'not like them' just shines a brilliant spotlight on why most
of the list is either not posting there or has come to The Peak. These three do
not seem to understand (remember, boneheads) that when someone or somewhere
gets too noxious it is the normal and natural thing to turn away from that
noxiousness. FFL is just that place.
So, thanks for dropping by, Judy. I wish you all the happiness that is
available to you in this world. While we all still have a breath to take and an
ability to make a decision or a choice there is a real chance for happy reward
and while life can be amazingly fickle in its ability to turn our lives this
way and that (I speak for myself here and with reference to the last 12 months
of my own life) we can find ourselves suddenly in the place we never thought
possible while all was turmoil or fear or uncertainty (still talkin' about me).
I don't know if you'll appear again but I hope one day you will join The Peak
where those with a respect and interest in each other dominates any differences
of opinion - a place that is exactly what FFL is not.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an
imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak.
No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point?
On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping
grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually
not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then
the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental
embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the
various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which
ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time.
What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If
anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and
what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less
insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as
some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever
so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to
any of these posts, my follow-up is:
I stand by what I wrote.
Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate
misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may
decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes.
Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew.
Bye.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak. Is there any indication that they've reached the peak yet? No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point? I don't know but I'm going to ask Barry for my opinion before I make a post about it. On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time. What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to any of these posts, my follow-up is: I stand by what I wrote. Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes. Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.
[FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses, they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't get in the average semi. The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched. I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted. And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that? But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you were exposed to it full time. I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean - if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an awful lot of physics and biology that has to go in the bin to account for me having a trippy time when on holiday in a nice part of the country! I think you should treat yourself to a weekend course and tell us what you think. http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats Course Bookings REGISTRATION Click on this link for MORE INFORMATION SUGGESTED ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE TIME: Residential course... View on uk.tm.org http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Thanks for the slideshow. Pretty. It's odd how the TMO constantly veers between - on the one hand - scientific investigation of TM's effects, stress-release physiology, and natural healing for our psychology and - on the other hand - this occult stuff (like the sidhis) that must alienate the vast majority of those showing an interest in meditation. Unfortunately, my current place has an inauspicious south-facing entrance. That spells destructive influences, problems and suffering. They called that right! Aren't cities in the US based on the grid pattern? It's here in Europe that they are laid out higgledy-piggledy. Found this article singing the praises of disorder in city planning - Long may chaos reign in our streets. http://tinyurl.com/lcwr7pz http://tinyurl.com/lcwr7pz
[FairfieldLife] Meditating with Spirituality: Amma Sri Karunamayi: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/21/2015
kicked out? The Dome meditation numbers are really quite small now and the leadership are doing not much to reconcile with the alumni meditating communities as such. There has long been a vacuum of leadership in the community that could calmly speak to any of the problems of the movement communities, of community of what was its meditating membership. A long-term leadership that is inclusive does not seem to be a hallmark in nature of character of many remaining inside now. Any of the communities of the TM movement are quite small, numbers of some numbers of hundreds. There is one guy down in Latin America doing really well with TM by force of his inclusive character which is of culture inherent with liberation theological populism. His is a really progressive language of heart that is magnanimous. That is way different than the leadership of the last 40 years of TM. By contrast to the Latin American Father propelling the TM movement there, the movement conservatives that control the larger Global Country are unable to employ the kind force of magnanimity in words like, 'we' and 'us' and 'thank you' with others in their struggle with what to do with the old movement alumni communities out in the world. There was one guy at the January 12 GuruDev and Maharishi birthdays/coming out of silence celebration meetings who employed it and it was shocking affect as its hopeful energy reaching out and recognizing an old group present by contrast with the main speakers. Though some are being groomed by teaching experience in the progressive activities of the DLF there not yet are young people being given the microphone yet either. So it is. There is so much going on around TM that is so much about survival. There is a lot of fear in the people there for all the directions of how all it may potentially go there. These are exciting times for transcendentalism and the transcending meditation movement. I hope for the best. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Was she one of the reasons you got kicked out of the Dome? From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma Sri Karunamayi: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/21/2015 What an extremely fair interview that Rick conducts with Karunamayi. Wide ranging contextual that is entirely relevant to things that could be thoughtfully discussed here. The interview also is interestingly apropos to the devolved low character of culture that has become FFL at yahoo-groups. Their interview conversation contrasting by ongoing consideration throughout the interview around essential kindness, tolerance, patience, and compassion noted as cultivated higher values of potential subtle energetic(s) in a divinity of nature of human life. I have seen Karunamayi a number of times over the decades and been with her on her tours some too. She has certainly been extremely helpful to a lot of people. She has been extremely helpful to me in real ways. Traveling much she is such a spiritual warrior living in the world as she goes about tending to people. She is a special soul, a kindly sort of saint of spirituality in the world. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/21/2015 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=825a1e945ae=16e07f16fe. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 04/21/2015: 287. Amma Sri Karunamayi https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=73joqblbs40li#mctoc1 287. Amma Sri Karunamayi http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c1b1673fade=16e07f16fe By Rick Archer on Apr 20, 2015 09:21 pm Sri Karunamayi is revered in India as an embodiment of Divine Motherly Love, due to the love and affection that she showers liberally on all people, animals, and even plants, the spiritual knowledge and guidance that she gives freely to all … Continue reading → http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=f3d6e00d51e=16e07f16fe The post 287. Amma Sri Karunamayi http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=d2a1cf1c72e=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=f4213d1ba5e=16e07f16fe. Read in browser »
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
I actually wasn't referring to your defense against any real or imagined
scurrilous falsehoods and fabrications that have been bandied about towards
you.
I was referring to your tendency to correct the smallest aspect of anyone's
posts whatever the subject of the post.
You of course have the perfect right to defend yourself against black lies from
the pits of hell (that's a quote from my favorite corrupt evangelist, Kenneth
Copeland).
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Judy is obviously a control freak - who else would try to correct the most
minute detail of other people's posts?
You have to be kidding me. If someone made a post with a bunch of factual
misrepresentations about you in an attempt to paint you in an unflattering
light, I suspect you'd speak up to correct them too.
In fact, before you realized that Willytex was a nonentity whose trolling was
largely ignored, you screamed bloody murder at his lies about you.
aryavazhi's lies about me were not minute details, they were significant
misrepresentations of my TM history, calculated to portray me as someone who
knew nothing of Maharishi's teaching. He was well aware that wasn't so, but he
didn't think I'd be reading the post, so he thought he was safe.
Barry's been lying about me almost since I first encountered him back in 1995
on alt.m.t, and he's continued to do so here since I stopped posting (and even
during this brief visit). I figure I've corrected enough of his lies over time
that everyone knows that's just what he does, so I haven't bothered to pop in
to make corrections.
Barry and aryavazhi are not just thugs, they're ghouls. Their spirituality
(such as it may have been) has curdled and putrefied and contaminates
everything in their environment.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is what Muslims do and then claim Isamophobia.
Not sure you can really refer to the holocaust as the Jew's Goetterdaemmerung.
Maybe more like the gentile's downfall. As a result *we* created Israel as
atonement and Jerusalem has become the heavy stone that burdens the whole world.
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:50 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is what Muslims do and then claim
Isamophobia.
Jews don't like the label holocaust since it means a sacrificed animal's
whole burnt-offering to a god on a altar. They prefer the term shoah meaning
catastrophic destruction.
I like the term holocaust since it defines the image of the burning ovens of
the extermination camps which was the Jew's Götterdämmerung.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: So tired of Yahoo's motherfucking delays....
And since some people over there seem to have a problem remembering or pronouncing my handle: It is a made up term, but it is derived from the Tamil Ayyavazhi, which is the name of a small religious movement there, I just changed one letter. Here is the pronounciation of the original word Pronunciation of ayyavazhi - how to pronounce ayyavazhi correctly. http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=ayyavazhi Pronunciation of ayyavazhi - how to pronounce ayyavazhi correctly. http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=ayyavazhi A free online Talking English Pronunciation Dictionary - simply mouseover/tap your entry to hear it pronounced. American and British spellings, with alternative pronunciations. Sounds are fast, clear and completely natural, pre-recorded by native speakers. Answers the q... View on www.howjsay.com http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=ayyavazhi Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course?
Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the
proper respect?
And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in
their midst?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses,
they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction
and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't
get in the average semi.
The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime
rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows
line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched.
I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to
let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted.
And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate
posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that?
But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for
yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends
on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you
were exposed to it full time.
I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to
blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I
doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean
- if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an
awful lot of physics and biology that has to go in the bin to account for me
having a trippy time when on holiday in a nice part of the country!
I think you should treat yourself to a weekend course and tell us what you
think.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Thanks for the slideshow. Pretty.
It's odd how the TMO constantly veers between - on the one hand - scientific
investigation of TM's effects, stress-release physiology, and natural healing
for our psychology and - on the other hand - this occult stuff (like the
sidhis) that must alienate the vast majority of those showing an interest in
meditation.
Unfortunately, my current place has an inauspicious south-facing entrance. That
spells destructive influences, problems and suffering. They called that right!
Aren't cities in the US based on the grid pattern? It's here in Europe that
they are laid out higgledy-piggledy.
Found this article singing the praises of disorder in city planning - Long may
chaos reign in our streets.http://tinyurl.com/lcwr7pz
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye. See you tomorrow ;-) Maybe not tomorrow, but soon, without a doubt. I used to joke that Judy was afraid to die because she's terrified that someone will say something about her that -- being dead and all -- she can't correct and make it agree with her...uh...rather overinflated view of her own importance. After this latest drive-by, however, I have revised that opinion somewhat. Now I think that what terrifies her the most is the likelihood that when she dies -- be it in a year or ten years -- someone will eventually find out about it and make a post to Fairfield Life that says, Hey...did you hear? Judy Stein died. The part that gives her nightmares is that the response will be, Who?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma Sri Karunamayi: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/21/2015
Prejudice is a judgment toward people or a person or group based on their, religion, race, nationality, gender, social class, age, disability, sexuality, language, or other personal characteristics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You don't seem to have much tolerance or patience of differing viewpoints. Non sequitur. In fact, the only reason I clicked on this post is because I thought you might have something creative to say other than your usual whine. Non sequitur. But no, it's just a veiled dig at everybody you disagree with. Non sequitur. Which is everyone here except the Texan, Prejudice is also a judgment toward people or a person or group based on their place of birth and birth circumstances. I don't know what you think that says about you. It says that you prejudiced against Texans, obviously, which says more about you than about me. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : What an extremely fair interview that Rick conducts with Karunamayi. Wide ranging contextual that is entirely relevant to things that could be thoughtfully discussed here. The interview also is interestingly apropos to the devolved low character of culture that has become FFL at yahoo-groups. Their interview conversation contrasting by ongoing consideration throughout the interview around essential kindness, tolerance, patience, and compassion noted as cultivated higher values of potential subtle energetic(s) in a divinity of nature of human life. I have seen Karunamayi a number of times over the decades and been with her on her tours some too. She has certainly been extremely helpful to a lot of people. She has been extremely helpful to me in real ways. Traveling much she is such a spiritual warrior living in the world as she goes about tending to people. She is a special soul, a kindly sort of saint of spirituality in the world. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/21/2015 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=825a1e945ae=16e07f16fe. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 04/21/2015: 287. Amma Sri Karunamayi #mctoc1 287. Amma Sri Karunamayi http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c1b1673fade=16e07f16fe By Rick Archer on Apr 20, 2015 09:21 pm Sri Karunamayi is revered in India as an embodiment of Divine Motherly Love, due to the love and affection that she showers liberally on all people, animals, and even plants, the spiritual knowledge and guidance that she gives freely to all … Continue reading → http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=f3d6e00d51e=16e07f16fe The post 287. Amma Sri Karunamayi http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=d2a1cf1c72e=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=f4213d1ba5e=16e07f16fe. Read in browser » http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2147c6c428e=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2fdd643dfee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=e2cc55fbb3e=16e07f16fe Recent Interviews: 286. Ellen Emmet http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=67f13ac627e=16e07f16fe 285. John Prendergast http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4503bf3559e=16e07f16fe 284. CC Leigh http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=8cb44c12cbe=16e07f16fe 283. Vasant Swaha http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=f6a8e5b86ce=16e07f16fe 282. Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) – 2nd Interview http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=22effc76f9e=16e07f16fe Copyright © 2015 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com http://batgap.com. Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
Dear Aryavazhi, I understands your comments now. Thank you. That is a redeeming explanations that you gives here in your defense of your Self and should keep you safe on the FFL groups membership list when you are weighted against the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Rick Archer who owns this list and is responsible for maintaining our alignment with Yahoo! and the Yahoo-groups guidelines should not have to do anything to rescind your membership or remove your posts from FairfieldLife at yahoo-groups, yet. I wish you good health, JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear Aryavazhi, “Honestly”? Apologizing for ? To who? I don't feel this is an apology I could take across lines over to our former colleagues in forum at The_Peak. And it wasn't meant to be taken accross to them, I didn't mention the_peak nor did I mentions you as a messenger. Just FYI, I wasn't present when the_peak split off, so I don't think anybody expects an apology. Regarding that other issue, you mentioned, well it is embarrassing.. I will explain it to you, just to you, not any other ill-willing people out there. It's embarrassing, because people are supposed to get it. It's like with jokes: the moment you have to explain a joke, that moment it isn't a joke anymore. FFL has had it's own history of satirical comments, which employs irony, sarcasm etc. In satire words and sentences are not to be taken literarly, they are usually strongly exaggerated, in order to make a point clear, the language is sketchy, not exact, but is meant to get to the heart of the matter. Usually, in satire, there are some clues, through which you could detect it as such. For example, if I say that someone visted one and a half courses in his life, it is obvious at first sight, that there are no 'half courses', so even Judy in her mad replic asked, what does that mean? Well, what could it mean? It's clear there was a clue here right at the start of my ironical / satirical interception. If you wanted a literal translation of this sentence, then 1 and 1/2 courses meant, little more than one, or just very many. In other words: A very insignificant exposure to the movement teachings, the people in the movement, movement places, always in comparision to those, who had a more significant exposure, who spent many years, day after day, without interruption in a movement environment, who met Maharishi and many other movement luminaries, who have been privy to the inside story of things. It is clear to them, clear to everybody, even Judy, that this is the case. There is no discussion about it. Contrast that with many people here, who for many years were engaged, like Barry 1, who was a national administrator, or myself, who spent more than 10 years continously in the inside movement. While she spent all this time, more than 10 years continously hanging around this and other internet forums. Yes, she did more than 1 1/2 courses, after all she did the sidhis, she made an short (!) SCI course, wow, she even got a Chopra technique! And the advanced techniques: she got one, but for years hasn't got one, and I made this joke, that she didn't do so , because she is afraid of speaking her mantra aloud! Now that has a very real basis, as she explained it here in discussions earlier, I think Lawson was involved at the time, that her mantra go so, so, so subtle, that it even hurts her, if she would see it in print. How could you not get ironic about that! Guru Dev used to worship a Shri Yantra which had all the mantras, including all TM mantras inscribed in devanagari. But enough of this, it was meant to be clear, and people get it, or don't get it. Also, I am not here to build up a recognition. The people I admire most in my life, spiritually speaking, have a strong sense of detachment (or non-attachment), and desinterest for personal recognition. This is IMO spiritual 101. So if people choose to thing bad of me, think I am a thuggie or liar, it's their calling. It's okay, their choice, I have nothing to do with it. So back to my 'apology' above. It was also in form and partly a mock apology, of course. And it had nothing to do with you and the peaksters, except that I made fun for this 'call for an apology'. But directed toward some other people here, I mentioned Alex in the post, but of course it was also directed to the two Barries, and anyone else, who felt that the absense of Judy, and the exodus of the peaksters was an improvement on FFL, so indeed, I felt sorry for them, as I had brought about a situation, seemingly at least, which was already overcome. With regard to Judy: we are all human beings, and we all make mistakes, so as a human being, I wish her well, and a long life, and good health. I certainly do not for a moment wish the misfortune of
[FairfieldLife] Katmandu Vastu
Anybody know if Darbur Square temples are built according to SV?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
Apparently some of the informants are already going over to lurk on The_Peak to get their news about the TM movement, since there is only one single true insider still posting to FFL. Everyone knows by now that almost all of the remaining informants got kicked out of the TMO - in one way or another. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak. So, the question is - who is going to have the most accurate insider information about the TM movement - The_Peak or FairfieldLife? Apparently almost all of The_Peakers are still in good standing with the TMO. Go figure. No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. Non sequitur. What would be the point? Non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to any of these posts, my follow-up is: I stand by what I wrote. Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes. Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Katmandu Vastu
Well.. no wonder!
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 8:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Katmandu Vastu
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[FairfieldLife] John Oliver on Dr. Oz
Never heard of John Oliver - I think I like him right well. John Oliver Obliterates Dr. Oz: The Worst Person Ever on TV in Scrubs, Including Katherine Heigl | | | | | | | | | | | John Oliver Obliterates Dr. Oz: The Worst Person Ever on...The brilliantly droll host of HBO’s Last Week Tonight tore the embattled Dr. Oz to shreds. | | | | View on www.thedailybeast.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Katmandu Vastu
I would have to go there again to ascertain such ! But mostly they were not built so! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Apr 27, 2015 10:11 am Subject: [FairfieldLife] Katmandu Vastu Anybody know if Darbur Square temples are built according to SV?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katmandu Vastu
you can map using google earth and see they were not
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
True. It's as if Buck's caught Wall Of Words disease from Robin Carlsen. I just click right past them without bothering to figure out which is the latest entry. From: jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count How can you imaging that anyone - and I mean anyone - would choose to read through this load of bumpf below? --- The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. Thattakes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a gripof vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating in'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems awilling kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process indisconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element hasbeen driven out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominantmethodical use of personal invective in the ad hominem used as weaponto personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type of,Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently thoughtfulconversation takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to haveproductive conversation. Some have done their poisonous work herewith the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folksdare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lackof self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostlymissing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, alove enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there tobe creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is aculture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinkinghere and driven people away.The cultural place that was FFLseems to have been poisoned. The place evidently has died for lack ofa willing collaboration as an oxygen that could include other points ofview other than some caustic character of dominant internet hatersand personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife atYahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snarkparading as 'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here atFFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a few people who came on before you came along and added to it in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals' default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say on the people they don't like. :-)Good timing, Turqb,Left or driven off? This as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on one level
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
Anyone who takes this discussion seriously is experiencing cognitive dissonance - this forum is a joke. This is a case in point: the informants don't call her The Corrector for no reason. That's what an online discussion group is for. It's a Potemkin village all the way down. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Judy is obviously a control freak - who else would try to correct the most minute detail of other people's posts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : You have to be kidding me. If someone made a post with a bunch of factual misrepresentations about you in an attempt to paint you in an unflattering light, I suspect you'd speak up to correct them too. And exactly, what good would that do? I've been the target of insults for a decade but I'm not going to go bat-shit crazy over a newsgroup message. So far, there's been many clear cases of cognitive dissonance displayed in this thread. It's not complicated. At it's core it is a debate about posting satire to the group, or not. In fact, before you realized that Willytex was a nonentity This is clearly a case of cognitive dissonance - you do realize you're talking to an alias, right? whose trolling was largely ignored, So, it's all abut Willytex. you screamed bloody murder at his lies about you. It was just a joke that I posted - about baking pot-cookies in the MIU campus kitchen. So, I confess I really don't know who is responsible for doing that, all I know is what MJ said about the rampant drug use on campus, so I made a funny. According to what I've heard, the problem was not the pot, but that they didn't put enough in the brownies. LoL! How MJ would be knowing anything about any campus drug use is beyond me. Go figure. Are campus staff members supposed to be fraternizing with the international students at MUM?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Cage is one of those actors, like Liam Neeson and Denzel Washington who either
have a very expensive drug and or alcohol habit, or indulge in expensive
hobbies, or have numerous ex wives who demand millions in alimony and child
support or else they just get bored easily if they are not working in their
chosen field.
These guys make movie after movie about an ex CIA or other clandestine
operative who gets worked up about something, usually under provocation by bad
guys, who then does horrid things to said bad guys that everyone would judge
him for if he were a bad guy, but its ok cuz he's the good guy and they are
bad. Lots of car chase scenes, lots of shooting and fighting and a boatload of
folks get killed. And star always survives to make another lame movie another
day.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
And I forgot to mention the productplacement! There are scenes in a mall and
they made sure theStarbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are
clearlydisplayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just sobizarre I
just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the actingis bad and there are a
number actors you see regularly see inother films. And I bet they aren't there
because of theirreligious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the
AtlasShrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the moneytoo
Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved?
How popular is the left behind idea in the US really?
On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...wrote :
Well I just had to see whatthe hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the
movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed makingit. It's so
bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also sobad that it's
like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the leftbehind
apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk aboutChristians
not understanding analogs, they're far worse than anyHindus. It
really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000treatment.
So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer:
Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into asingle trailer?
This left behind thing is a real culturalphenomenon over there isn't it?
Bizarre as we neverhear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised ifthis
doesn't even go on release here. Not leastbecause it looks really dreadful...
https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the productplacement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure theStarbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearlydisplayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just sobizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the actingis bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see inother films. And I bet they aren't there because of theirreligious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the AtlasShrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the moneytoo Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? It's huge. Creepy huge. They have sold 65 million copies of the books: Left Behind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | | | | | Left Behind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaLeft Behind is a series of 16 best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, dealing with Christian dispensationalist End Times: the pretribulation, premillennial, Christian eschatological viewpoint of the end of the world. The primary conflict of the series is the member... | | | | View on en.wikipedia.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
Just do what I inadvertently did on my first few residence courses - enjoy the
meditations, enjoy the rest, enjoy the food and company and sleep like hell
through all the knowledge tapes.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course?
Just visiting some pals. I haven't done a TM course for many decades, I just
don't like the knowledge meetings, everything else is great, the food the
company. When the peace palace is built next year it will be a thriving little
community I think.
You might be able to get a job there MJ ;-)
Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the
proper respect?
I wouldn't ever be in a position where someone dressed like that was expecting
me to stand when they enter the room. The whole raja thing was the final
final final last straw for me.
And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in
their midst?
I was discussing the phenomenon of true believerism with my friends and they
were saying there is a mix there of the most devout and people who have gotten
over it to various degrees. To stay so single-pointed for so long takes some
energy. Most people have a flush of absolute TM-ishness and then it wears off
it seems.
But generally I don't talk about what I think unless asked and nor does anyone
else really so I don't really know what people are into there but as the house
prices are so high there you can bet there's a lot of the real movement
die-hards.
Nice place though and it's in a nice part of the country if you ever want to
visit. Nice seaside towns and tea rooms.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses,
they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction
and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't
get in the average semi.
The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime
rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows
line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched.
I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to
let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted.
And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate
posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that?
But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for
yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends
on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you
were exposed to it full time.
I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to
blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I
doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean
- if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an
awful lot of physics and biology that has to go in the bin to account for me
having a trippy time when on holiday in a nice part of the country!
I think you should treat yourself to a weekend course and tell us what you
think.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Thanks for the slideshow. Pretty.
It's odd how the TMO constantly veers between - on the one hand - scientific
investigation of TM's effects, stress-release physiology, and natural healing
for our psychology and - on the other hand - this occult stuff (like the
sidhis) that must alienate the vast majority of those showing an interest in
meditation.
Unfortunately, my current place has an inauspicious south-facing entrance. That
spells destructive influences, problems and suffering. They called that right!
Aren't cities in the US based on the grid pattern? It's here in Europe that
they are laid out higgledy-piggledy.
Found this article singing the praises of disorder in city planning - Long may
chaos reign in our streets.http://tinyurl.com/lcwr7pz
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too. On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
Transference is a phenomenon characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings from one person to another. One definition of transference is the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person's childhood. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Desperately wanting to get people to apologize to them for imagined affronts has been a running fantasy on FFL for years. A clear case of transference. Buck is just the first to wet himself over getting one. :-) Non sequitur. For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully. Over the years, I saw him levitate, as in sitting in lotus and just lifting up off the chair and hovering there in midair for minutes at a time, sometimes telling a joke the whole time. - TurquoiseB Except for those times years ago when I suggested that Willytex has sex with prairie dogs. You should not expect us householders to follow your strict program of celibacy, Barry. That was bad, and I apologize. I should never have insulted prairie dogs that way. Non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : If anyone else here would care to extend their feelings of apologies for their poor behavior, unkindness, abusive invective, or over the top name-calling here towards others in the FFL yahoo-groups community I would be glad to take them over to The_Peak to our former collaborators in thinking here. Peace be with us all, JaiGuruYou
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Tremendously popular but only amongst the rabid Christians.
Left Behind is a series of 16 best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B.
Jenkins, dealing with Christian dispensationalist End Times.Total sales for the
series have surpassed 65 million copies
As to the movie:
Yea verily, like unto a plague of locusts, Left Behind hath begat a further
scourge of devastation upon Nicolas Cage's once-proud filmography.
In a review for Entertainment Weekly, film critic Lindsey Bahr writes, At
best, Left Behind is shoddily made sensationalist propaganda—with atrocious
acting—that barely registers as entertainment. At worst, it's profoundly
moronic. Audiences, Christian or not, deserve better, and it's hard to imagine
that the ham-fisted revelations in this schlock could serve any higher purpose.
Paul Chambers from MovieChambers.com begins his scathing review with, There
are millions of Christians with average or above-average intelligence. I’d like
to think that I’m one of them. So, what possessed the makers of Left Behind to
produce such an ignorant piece of garbage that’s easily one of the worst films
of 2014, if not all-time?[30]Christian magazine Christianity Today heavily
criticized the film, saying,
Left Behind is not a Christian movie, whatever 'Christian Movie' could even
possibly mean. In fact, most Christians within the world of the movie—whether
the street-preacher lady at the airport or Rayford Steele's wife—are portrayed
as insistent, crazy, delusional, or at the very least just really annoying.
They want churches to book whole theaters and take their congregations, want it
to be a Youth Group event, want magazines like this one to publish Discussion
Questions at the end of their reviews—want the system to churn away, all the
while netting them cash, without ever having to have cared a shred about actual
Christian belief. They want to trick you into caring about the movie. Don't.
And they would say that they tried to give the film zero stars, but our tech
system won't allow it.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
And I forgot to mention the productplacement! There are scenes in a mall and
they made sure theStarbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are
clearlydisplayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just sobizarre I
just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the actingis bad and there are a
number actors you see regularly see inother films. And I bet they aren't there
because of theirreligious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the
AtlasShrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the moneytoo
Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved?
How popular is the left behind idea in the US really?
On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...wrote :
Well I just had to see whatthe hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the
movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed makingit. It's so
bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also sobad that it's
like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the leftbehind
apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk aboutChristians
not understanding analogs, they're far worse than anyHindus. It
really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000treatment.
So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer:
Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into asingle trailer?
This left behind thing is a real culturalphenomenon over there isn't it?
Bizarre as we neverhear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised ifthis
doesn't even go on release here. Not leastbecause it looks really dreadful...
https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
On 04/27/2015 09:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? No heaven are hell are harmed in this film. And Cloe saves the day! Kind of a spoiler but then you'll want to see how. The whole scenario gets really preposterous. How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? I don't know but years ago Judy couldn't believe I had never heard of the books. A lot of people will watch the movies because they are so bad and stupid. I almost turned it off after 10 minutes but decided to see where they took it and how bad it was going to be. Have you seen HBO's take on this called The Leftovers? It was really weird and there is a second season this year. On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Reminds me of the New Age movie that I went to a matinee to see years ago. The auditorium was packed. Figured they all got free tickets. The film was mentioned by Turq the other day as he knew the person who produced it. I certainly did not expect a packed house for a matinee at such a film. On 04/27/2015 09:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Tremendously popular but only amongst the rabid Christians. /*Left Behind*/ is a series of 16 best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_B._Jenkins, dealing with Christian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity dispensationalist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism End Times http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_Times. Total sales for the series have surpassed 65 million copies As to the movie: Yea verily, like unto a plague of locusts, /Left Behind/ hath begat a further scourge of devastation upon Nicolas Cage's once-proud filmography. In a review for /Entertainment Weekly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Weekly/, film critic Lindsey Bahr writes, At best, /Left Behind/ is shoddily made sensationalist propaganda—with atrocious acting—that barely registers as entertainment. At worst, it's profoundly moronic. Audiences, Christian or not, deserve better, and it's hard to imagine that the ham-fisted revelations in this schlock could serve any higher purpose. Paul Chambers from MovieChambers.com begins his scathing review with, There are millions of Christians with average or above-average intelligence. I’d like to think that I’m one of them. So, what possessed the makers of /Left Behind/ to produce such an ignorant piece of garbage that’s easily one of the worst films of 2014, if not all-time?^[30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%282014_film%29#cite_note-PChambers-30 Christian magazine /Christianity Today http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_Today/ heavily criticized the film, saying, /Left Behind/ is not a Christian movie, whatever 'Christian Movie' could even possibly mean. In fact, most Christians within the world of the movie—whether the street-preacher lady at the airport or Rayford Steele's wife—are portrayed as insistent, crazy, delusional, or at the very least just really annoying. They want churches to book whole theaters and take their congregations, want it to be a Youth Group event, want magazines like this one to publish Discussion Questions at the end of their reviews—want the system to churn away, all the while netting them cash, without ever having to have cared a shred about actual Christian belief. They want to trick you into caring about the movie. Don't. And they would say that they tried to give the film zero stars, but our tech system won't allow it. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
[FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
I saw this some time ago, and thought that I'd commented on it (negatively)
here at the time. But I can't find any trace of it using Yahoo's crappy Search,
so maybe I just wanted to wash the taste of the movie out of my eyes so quickly
that I didn't even bother to mention it. :-)
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the
movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so
bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's
like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind
apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians
not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It
really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment.
So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer:
Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer?
This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it?
Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this
doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful...
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[FairfieldLife] Cool new dinosaur!
The new Tyrannosaurus-like dinosaur discovered in Chile may be less scary than you think http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html The new Tyrannosaurus-like dinosaur discovered in Chile... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html Dinosaurs come in all shapes and sizes but there has been nothing quite so unusual as a species found in the Patagonian fossil fields of Chile, scient... View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
Ha ha! I had forgotten the teachers used to say that about letting it sink in on a deep level! They also claimed that if you feel asleep during one of the tapes, you would still get the benefit of the knowledge and Marshy's good vibes subconsciously. They used to say the same thing about falling asleep during group program but evidently they have let that lie go now they are hiring folks to poke people when caught sleeping in the Domes. I admit I used to get poked a few times myself on the residence courses becuz I snored during the tapes. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Just do what I inadvertently did on my first few residence courses - enjoy the meditations, enjoy the rest, enjoy the food and company and sleep like hell through all the knowledge tapes. I started off by trying to understand what Marshy was going on about on the tapes but got frustrated quickly and complained to the course leaders that he wasn't making a whole bunch of sense a bit too often to be reassuring. They told me to relax and let it all sink in at a deep level. So I too took to sleeping through it all and it made the courses much more enjoyable, and I managed to pick up the gist rather than becoming a fully fledged vedic expert. And then I decided to learn a bit more about it and did a proper knowledge course and didn't get on with it at all. Total Knowledge, it was called. The first course on the Maharishi Open University. I got half way through and quit. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course? Just visiting some pals. I haven't done a TM course for many decades, I just don't like the knowledge meetings, everything else is great, the food the company. When the peace palace is built next year it will be a thriving little community I think. You might be able to get a job there MJ ;-) Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the proper respect? I wouldn't ever be in a position where someone dressed like that was expecting me to stand when they enter the room. The whole raja thing was the final final final last straw for me. And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in their midst? I was discussing the phenomenon of true believerism with my friends and they were saying there is a mix there of the most devout and people who have gotten over it to various degrees. To stay so single-pointed for so long takes some energy. Most people have a flush of absolute TM-ishness and then it wears off it seems. But generally I don't talk about what I think unless asked and nor does anyone else really so I don't really know what people are into there but as the house prices are so high there you can bet there's a lot of the real movement die-hards. Nice place though and it's in a nice part of the country if you ever want to visit. Nice seaside towns and tea rooms. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses, they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't get in the average semi. The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched. I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted. And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that? But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you were exposed to it full time. I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean - if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an awful lot of physics and biology that has to go in the bin to account
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ha ha! I had forgotten the teachers used to say that about letting it sink in on a deep level! They also claimed that if you feel asleep during one of the tapes, you would still get the benefit of the knowledge and Marshy's good vibes subconsciously. They used to say the same thing about falling asleep during group program but evidently they have let that lie go now they are hiring folks to poke people when caught sleeping in the Domes. Do they really? I was told that would interfere with the unstressing process and we were to leave them. But I remember being on a WPA and feeling indignant that some of the sponsored people slept all day instead of helping create world peace. Maybe that's why the course didn't prevent the gulf warmaybe... I admit I used to get poked a few times myself on the residence courses becuz I snored during the tapes. What fun! I wish there was a way to go on courses and miss the indoctrination sessions. And it's worse these days, you might get a tape featuring Bevan Morris of the Council of Supreme Intelligence. Imagine trying to stay rested through that! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Just do what I inadvertently did on my first few residence courses - enjoy the meditations, enjoy the rest, enjoy the food and company and sleep like hell through all the knowledge tapes. I started off by trying to understand what Marshy was going on about on the tapes but got frustrated quickly and complained to the course leaders that he wasn't making a whole bunch of sense a bit too often to be reassuring. They told me to relax and let it all sink in at a deep level. So I too took to sleeping through it all and it made the courses much more enjoyable, and I managed to pick up the gist rather than becoming a fully fledged vedic expert. And then I decided to learn a bit more about it and did a proper knowledge course and didn't get on with it at all. Total Knowledge, it was called. The first course on the Maharishi Open University. I got half way through and quit. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course? Just visiting some pals. I haven't done a TM course for many decades, I just don't like the knowledge meetings, everything else is great, the food the company. When the peace palace is built next year it will be a thriving little community I think. You might be able to get a job there MJ ;-) Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the proper respect? I wouldn't ever be in a position where someone dressed like that was expecting me to stand when they enter the room. The whole raja thing was the final final final last straw for me. And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in their midst? I was discussing the phenomenon of true believerism with my friends and they were saying there is a mix there of the most devout and people who have gotten over it to various degrees. To stay so single-pointed for so long takes some energy. Most people have a flush of absolute TM-ishness and then it wears off it seems. But generally I don't talk about what I think unless asked and nor does anyone else really so I don't really know what people are into there but as the house prices are so high there you can bet there's a lot of the real movement die-hards. Nice place though and it's in a nice part of the country if you ever want to visit. Nice seaside towns and tea rooms. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses, they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't get in the average semi. The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched. I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted. And, standing in the front door, you can watch the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Just do what I inadvertently did on my first few residence courses - enjoy the meditations, enjoy the rest, enjoy the food and company and sleep like hell through all the knowledge tapes. I really enjoyed the first TM residence courses I attended -- Squaw Valley '68 and '69, Poland Spring, a couple of Humboldts, weekend courses in Toronto -- during the period before I went to TTC. Then when I became a teacher and moved back to L.A. I kinda developed a rep as a fair-to-middlin' lecturer and Jerry heard about it and asked me to lead a few residence courses, and as a result over the next few years I taught quite a few of them, probably dozens all told. I really loved it, loved being able to create my own curriculum for the course -- following a theme for the whole two days and choosing tapes or videos accordingly. The QAs with the course participants after each planned talk are still my favorite memories of teaching TM -- small, intimate, and manageable. But then things got bigger, and less fun to teach, at least for me. The closest I ever got to feeling what it must be like to be a rock star or big-time guru was teaching the week-long Christmas courses at Asilomar, doing lectures in front of 700 to 1000 unstressing people. That was INTENSE, and not in all a good way. I distinctly remember feeling fucked up for a couple of days after being bombarded with that much attention. Remembering that experience helps me to feel compassion for gurus and meditation teachers who started well but got more than a little fucked up along the way. Even from those brief experiences up on stage at Asilomar, I have experienced what it *feels like* to have that many amped-up-from-meditation people focus on you. It's like heroin shakti. I don't see how *any* teacher manages not to get fucked up from it. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course? Just visiting some pals. I haven't done a TM course for many decades, I just don't like the knowledge meetings, everything else is great, the food the company. When the peace palace is built next year it will be a thriving little community I think. You might be able to get a job there MJ ;-) Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the proper respect? I wouldn't ever be in a position where someone dressed like that was expecting me to stand when they enter the room. The whole raja thing was the final final final last straw for me. And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in their midst? I was discussing the phenomenon of true believerism with my friends and they were saying there is a mix there of the most devout and people who have gotten over it to various degrees. To stay so single-pointed for so long takes some energy. Most people have a flush of absolute TM-ishness and then it wears off it seems. But generally I don't talk about what I think unless asked and nor does anyone else really so I don't really know what people are into there but as the house prices are so high there you can bet there's a lot of the real movement die-hards. Nice place though and it's in a nice part of the country if you ever want to visit. Nice seaside towns and tea rooms. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses, they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't get in the average semi. The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched. I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted. And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that? But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you were exposed to it full time. I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean - if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course? Just visiting some pals. I haven't done a TM course for many decades, I just don't like the knowledge meetings, everything else is great, the food the company. When the peace palace is built next year it will be a thriving little community I think. You might be able to get a job there MJ ;-) Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the proper respect? I wouldn't ever be in a position where someone dressed like that was expecting me to stand when they enter the room. The whole raja thing was the final final final last straw for me. And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in their midst? I was discussing the phenomenon of true believerism with my friends and they were saying there is a mix there of the most devout and people who have gotten over it to various degrees. To stay so single-pointed for so long takes some energy. Most people have a flush of absolute TM-ishness and then it wears off it seems. But generally I don't talk about what I think unless asked and nor does anyone else really so I don't really know what people are into there but as the house prices are so high there you can bet there's a lot of the real movement die-hards. Nice place though and it's in a nice part of the country if you ever want to visit. Nice seaside towns and tea rooms. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses, they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't get in the average semi. The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched. I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted. And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that? But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you were exposed to it full time. I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean - if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an awful lot of physics and biology that has to go in the bin to account for me having a trippy time when on holiday in a nice part of the country! I think you should treat yourself to a weekend course and tell us what you think. http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats Course Bookings REGISTRATION Click on this link for MORE INFORMATION SUGGESTED ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE TIME: Residential course... View on uk.tm.org http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Thanks for the slideshow. Pretty. It's odd how the TMO constantly veers between - on the one hand - scientific investigation of TM's effects, stress-release physiology, and natural healing for our psychology and - on the other hand - this occult stuff (like the sidhis) that must alienate the vast majority of those showing an interest in meditation. Unfortunately, my current place has an inauspicious south-facing entrance. That spells destructive influences, problems and suffering. They called that right! Aren't cities in the US based on the grid pattern? It's here in Europe that they are laid out higgledy-piggledy. Found this article singing the praises of disorder in city planning - Long may chaos reign in our streets. http://tinyurl.com/lcwr7pz http://tinyurl.com/lcwr7pz
[FairfieldLife] A movie so bad.....
Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating in 'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of 'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems a willing kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process in disconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element has been driven out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominant methodical use of personal invective in the ad hominem used as weapon to personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type of, Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently thoughtful conversation takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to have productive conversation. Some have done their poisonous work here with the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people away.The cultural place that was FFL seems to have been poisoned. The place evidently has died for lack of a willing collaboration as an oxygen that could include other points of view other than some caustic character of dominant internet haters and personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snark parading as 'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here at FFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a few people who came on before you came along and added to it in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals' default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say on the people they don't like. :-)Good timing, Turqb,Left or driven off? This as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on one level Anartaxius except, the low post and dwindled active member counts may show something else.Looking in on the culture of what is FFL now, is it a surprise the numbers have dropped off when there is so much about Fairfield or larger spiritual matter being talked about otherwise by others actively involved in it? No, it is like the well was poisoned here by some.Ironically there is an evident invective that is intolerance to conversation here and to divergent idea by a concentration of some few who remain active posting here.If could be we are just getting on with our lives. Now that most of the TB crazies have left, some of the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Just do what I inadvertently did on my first few residence courses - enjoy the meditations, enjoy the rest, enjoy the food and company and sleep like hell through all the knowledge tapes. I started off by trying to understand what Marshy was going on about on the tapes but got frustrated quickly and complained to the course leaders that he wasn't making a whole bunch of sense a bit too often to be reassuring. They told me to relax and let it all sink in at a deep level. So I too took to sleeping through it all and it made the courses much more enjoyable, and I managed to pick up the gist rather than becoming a fully fledged vedic expert. And then I decided to learn a bit more about it and did a proper knowledge course and didn't get on with it at all. Total Knowledge, it was called. The first course on the Maharishi Open University. I got half way through and quit. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Were you there just visiting friends, or were you there on a course? Just visiting some pals. I haven't done a TM course for many decades, I just don't like the knowledge meetings, everything else is great, the food the company. When the peace palace is built next year it will be a thriving little community I think. You might be able to get a job there MJ ;-) Did you get up out of your chair when the raja entered the room, to show the proper respect? I wouldn't ever be in a position where someone dressed like that was expecting me to stand when they enter the room. The whole raja thing was the final final final last straw for me. And did the people there know they had what Buck would call a TM apostate in their midst? I was discussing the phenomenon of true believerism with my friends and they were saying there is a mix there of the most devout and people who have gotten over it to various degrees. To stay so single-pointed for so long takes some energy. Most people have a flush of absolute TM-ishness and then it wears off it seems. But generally I don't talk about what I think unless asked and nor does anyone else really so I don't really know what people are into there but as the house prices are so high there you can bet there's a lot of the real movement die-hards. Nice place though and it's in a nice part of the country if you ever want to visit. Nice seaside towns and tea rooms. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BEAUTIFULL SLIDESHOW ON STHAPATYA VEDA I was staying in Rendlesham just a few weeks ago. I really like the houses, they have a sense of lightness in them due to the windows in every direction and a nice big hall when you walk in that gives you a sense of space you don't get in the average semi. The grid pattern takes some getting used to, my first thought is that the crime rates in SV developments are bound to be low because having all the windows line up like that makes you feel like you are being watched. I like the east facing front door though, it's a very pagan idea designed to let you know when the solstice has arrived so you can get your crops planted. And, standing in the front door, you can watch the sun rise behind the gate posts on the equinoxes. How cool is that? But is there anything magical about them? You'll have to go and see for yourself whether you get any sort of buzz out of the place. I think it depends on sensitivity to environment or maybe how well the TM mythos sunk in when you were exposed to it full time. I did get a really nice enlightenment experience when I was there but what to blame it on? The placement of planets compared to the position of rooms? I doubt it as the majority of that slide show is of the order of things that mean - if they are true- everything else we know has to be wrong. And that's an awful lot of physics and biology that has to go in the bin to account for me having a trippy time when on holiday in a nice part of the country! I think you should treat yourself to a weekend course and tell us what you think. http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats Course Bookings REGISTRATION Click on this link for MORE INFORMATION SUGGESTED ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE TIME: Residential course... View on uk.tm.org http://uk.tm.org/web/suffolk/retreats Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Thanks for the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool new dinosaur!
Less scary than I think? Why, because it's not a carnivore? Reality check: large herbivores are some of the most dangerous animals on the planet. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The new Tyrannosaurus-like dinosaur discovered in Chile may be less scary than you think http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html The new Tyrannosaurus-like dinosaur discovered in Chile... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html Dinosaurs come in all shapes and sizes but there has been nothing quite so unusual as a species found in the Patagonian fossil fields of Chile, scient... View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Here's your Left Behind from October post. :-D https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/401933 On 04/27/2015 09:31 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */I saw this some time ago, and thought that I'd commented on it (negatively) here at the time. But I can't find any trace of it using Yahoo's crappy Search, so maybe I just wanted to wash the taste of the movie out of my eyes so quickly that I didn't even bother to mention it. :-)/* *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ** ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
That would have been What the Bleep Do We Know, or whatever it was called. Yeah, that was a real trip. I knew Bill Arnst, the guy who produced it, from the Rama trip. When I knew him, he was a pretty down-to-earth guy, having parlayed some money he'd earned as a child actor into a computer company that he then sold for many millions of dollars. I lost touch with him when we both walked away from the Rama trip (for different reasons but at about the same time), and found myself somewhat shocked when I found out that he'd hooked up with the Ramtha crowd. I always felt that was a serious step down from the Rama vibe. I never saw the film in a theater but had the incredibly fun experience of watching it in my living room with Robert Crumb. We laughed so hard I thought our sides would fall off. :-) From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad. Reminds me of the New Age movie that I went to a matinee to see years ago. The auditorium was packed. Figured they all got free tickets. The film was mentioned by Turq the other day as he knew the person who produced it. I certainly did not expect a packed house for a matinee at such a film. On 04/27/2015 09:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Tremendously popular but only amongst the rabid Christians. Left Behind is a series of 16 best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, dealing with Christian dispensationalist End Times. Total sales for the series have surpassed 65 million copies As to the movie: Yea verily, like unto a plague of locusts, Left Behind hath begat a further scourge of devastation upon Nicolas Cage's once-proud filmography. In a review for Entertainment Weekly, film critic Lindsey Bahr writes, At best, Left Behind is shoddily made sensationalist propaganda—with atrocious acting—that barely registers as entertainment. At worst, it's profoundly moronic. Audiences, Christian or not, deserve better, and it's hard to imagine that the ham-fisted revelations in this schlock could serve any higher purpose. Paul Chambers from MovieChambers.com begins his scathing review with, There are millions of Christians with average or above-average intelligence. I’d like to think that I’m one of them. So, what possessed the makers of Left Behind to produce such an ignorant piece of garbage that’s easily one of the worst films of 2014, if not all-time?[30] Christian magazine Christianity Today heavily criticized the film, saying, Left Behind is not a Christian movie, whatever 'Christian Movie' could even possibly mean. In fact, most Christians within the world of the movie—whether the street-preacher lady at the airport or Rayford Steele's wife—are portrayed as insistent, crazy, delusional, or at the very least just really annoying. They want churches to book whole theaters and take their congregations, want it to be a Youth Group event, want magazines like this one to publish Discussion Questions at the end of their reviews—want the system to churn away, all the while netting them cash, without ever having to have cared a shred about actual Christian belief. They want to trick you into caring about the movie. Don't. And they would say that they tried to give the film zero stars, but our tech system won't allow it. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Cage sorta went from one extreme to another. He won critical acclaim for Joe which he was really good in. Also a lot of actors do these films including small one just to keep their union benefits up. On 04/27/2015 09:52 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Cage is one of those actors, like Liam Neeson and Denzel Washington who either have a very expensive drug and or alcohol habit, or indulge in expensive hobbies, or have numerous ex wives who demand millions in alimony and child support or else they just get bored easily if they are not working in their chosen field. These guys make movie after movie about an ex CIA or other clandestine operative who gets worked up about something, usually under provocation by bad guys, who then does horrid things to said bad guys that everyone would judge him for if he were a bad guy, but its ok cuz he's the good guy and they are bad. Lots of car chase scenes, lots of shooting and fighting and a boatload of folks get killed. And star always survives to make another lame movie another day. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
[FairfieldLife] Religion
I cannot understand why we idle discussing religion. If we are honest – and as scientists honesty is our precise duty – we cannot help but admit that any religion is a pack of false statements, deprived of any real foundation. The very idea of God is a product of human imagination. I do not recognize any religious myth, at least because they contradict one another. - Paul Dirac
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? It's huge. Creepy huge. They have sold 65 million copies of the books: Amazing, I'd like to try one but I've checked our local library and they don't stock them. I've been having a read about dispensationalism. What a hugely complex and bizarre theory, talk about tying themselves in knots. It's so obvious they're trying to explain some disparate theories by bringing them together as an over-arching plan by god but it's so much easier to explain it by saying that different people made up different stuff at different times and they just don't want to admit that it's all random. When did William of Occam live? Before dispensationalism was created I surmise. Left Behind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind Left Behind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind Left Behind is a series of 16 best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, dealing with Christian dispensationalist End Times: the pretribulation, premillennial, Christian eschatological viewpoint of the end of the world. The primary conflict of the series is the member... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
A lot of people thought the CW's The Messengers was going to go down this road but they were surprised with episode 2 where they reveal that the events referenced in the Bible are symbolic. On 04/27/2015 11:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 04/27/2015 09:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? No heaven are hell are harmed in this film. And Cloe saves the day! Kind of a spoiler but then you'll want to see how. The whole scenario gets really preposterous. How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? I don't know but years ago Judy couldn't believe I had never heard of the books. A lot of people will watch the movies because they are so bad and stupid. I almost turned it off after 10 minutes but decided to see where they took it and how bad it was going to be. Have you seen HBO's take on this called The Leftovers? It was really weird and there is a second season this year. No, as I say we don't get any of these sort of ultra-Christian beliefs over here, it's still a bit more like tea on the vicarage lawn. The most radical any church here gets is a guitar and a bit of clapping in the service. My next door neighbour belongs to one but he doesn't proselytise so I don't know what his beliefs are, which is a shame as I'd like to know the current state of English dreaming. LOL, he asked me what I did for a living when we first met and I told him I worked for the TMO and he looked like I'd slapped him he was so shocked but he didn't say anything, which is a shame as I'm as up for philosophocal debate with him as I was with the TM teachers. On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
[FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time. What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to any of these posts, my follow-up is: I stand by what I wrote. Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes. Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion
Religion was to the old way of distributing ideas when there was little education in societies. It was invented to control the masses. Do as the pharaoh says or you will go to hell. Some ideas might have offended the pharaoh so they were obfuscated through analogies. Then, of course, they get corrupted over time. On 04/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I cannot understand why we idle discussing religion. If we are honest – and as scientists honesty is our precise duty – we cannot help but admit that any religion is a pack of false statements, deprived of any real foundation. The very idea of God is a product of human imagination. I do not recognize any religious myth, at least because they contradict one another. - Paul Dirac
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community.The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating in 'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of 'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems a willing kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process in disconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element has been driven out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominant methodical use of personal invective in the ad hominem used as weapon to personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type of, Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently thoughtful conversation takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to have productive conversation. Some have done their poisonous work here with the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people away.The cultural place that was FFL seems to have been poisoned. The place evidently has died for lack of a willing collaboration as an oxygen that could include other points of view other than some caustic character of dominant internet haters and personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snark parading as 'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here at FFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a few people who came on before you came along and added to it in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals' default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Yeah, laugh all you want. But Jeesus is gittin' even with all those dick n
pussy worshippin' hindooz!
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
And I forgot to mention the productplacement! There are scenes in a mall and
they made sure theStarbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are
clearlydisplayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just sobizarre I
just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the actingis bad and there are a
number actors you see regularly see inother films. And I bet they aren't there
because of theirreligious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the
AtlasShrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the moneytoo
Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved?
How popular is the left behind idea in the US really?
It's huge. Creepy huge. They have sold 65 million copies of the books:
Left Behind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, dealing with Christian
dispensationalist End Times: the pretribulation, premillennial, Christian
eschatological viewpoint of the end of the world. The primary conflict of the
series is the member... |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 04/27/2015 09:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the money too Do you get to see heaven and hell at any point. Does Nic get saved? No heaven are hell are harmed in this film. And Cloe saves the day! Kind of a spoiler but then you'll want to see how. The whole scenario gets really preposterous. How popular is the left behind idea in the US really? I don't know but years ago Judy couldn't believe I had never heard of the books. A lot of people will watch the movies because they are so bad and stupid. I almost turned it off after 10 minutes but decided to see where they took it and how bad it was going to be. Have you seen HBO's take on this called The Leftovers? It was really weird and there is a second season this year. No, as I say we don't get any of these sort of ultra-Christian beliefs over here, it's still a bit more like tea on the vicarage lawn. The most radical any church here gets is a guitar and a bit of clapping in the service. My next door neighbour belongs to one but he doesn't proselytise so I don't know what his beliefs are, which is a shame as I'd like to know the current state of English dreaming. LOL, he asked me what I did for a living when we first met and I told him I worked for the TMO and he looked like I'd slapped him he was so shocked but he didn't say anything, which is a shame as I'm as up for philosophocal debate with him as I was with the TM teachers. On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment. So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer: Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer? This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it? Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful... https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.....
Place some or most of the blame on the director. Cage has done some decent
things in the past. He might have been desperate for a job since he owed the
IRS millions.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie so bad.
And I forgot to mention the product placement! There are scenes in a
mall and they made sure the Starbucks, Best Buy and another of other outlets
are clearly displayed. Then outside Macy's and Sears. The film is just so
bizarre I just cracked up laughing several times. Yup, the acting is bad and
there are a number actors you see regularly see in other films. And I bet they
aren't there because of their religious beliefs any more than the actors who
were in the Atlas Shrugged jokes are libertarians. They're there for the
money too.
On 04/27/2015 09:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Well I just had to see what the hell Nicolas Cage was doing with the
movie Left Behind. He really must have enjoyed making it. It's so
bad that it has one star on Netflix. But it's also so bad that it's
like a comedy, almost like the Airplane of the left behind
apocalypse movies (of which there are many). Talk about Christians
not understanding analogs, they're far worse than any Hindus. It
really deserves a Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment.
So if you need a good laugh here's the trailer:
Wow, how much bad acting can you pack into a single trailer?
This left behind thing is a real cultural phenomenon over there isn't it?
Bizarre as we never hear of it over here. I wouldn't even be surprised if this
doesn't even go on release here. Not least because it looks really dreadful...
https://youtu.be/GrXe8YDbzYs
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool new dinosaur!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Less scary than I think? Why, because it's not a carnivore? Reality check: large herbivores are some of the most dangerous animals on the planet. Quite true, I imagine the headline writer assumed we'd all find a lion more scary than a hippo or buffalo but they kill more people in Africa than lions do. Not as many as mosquito's by a long stretch but they are mere accidental deaths by transmission. But then carnivores actually hunt us for food which is evoking a different sort of fear than upsetting a hippo near its favourite mud pool would. I'm still perplexed as to why these dinosaur artists - who are technically very accurate - decline to cover their creations with feathers. Presumably because they think we'd find giant chickens even less scary? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The new Tyrannosaurus-like dinosaur discovered in Chile may be less scary than you think http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html The new Tyrannosaurus-like dinosaur discovered in Chile... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html Dinosaurs come in all shapes and sizes but there has been nothing quite so unusual as a species found in the Patagonian fossil fields of Chile, scient... View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-tyrannosauruslike-vegetarian-dinosaur-discovered-in-chile-10207503.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Coffee
Hey, Frivolous Dick I was replying to Bari2's comment, not to you. Wasn't this why you were kicked out of FFL? Go take your sequiturs back to The Peek and hide behind the curtain. You'll be at home there repeating your inanities endlessly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can all relax now
Just took a sneak peek at The Peak and they seem to be replying to an imaginary Judy over there. I don't see any postings from her on The Peak. No we don't march in lockstep on FFL. What would be the point? On 04/27/2015 11:48 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was not aware this place had a leader. Groups like FFL are just dumping grounds for what is in people's minds. One dumps and then the others, usually not all, sort through your trash and either ignore, praise or revile, and then the cycle repeats until one loses interest or dies or has some kind of mental embolism forcing an exit. Various clumping alliances tend to occur in the various minds such as 'Barry's Thugs' and 'Judy's Minions' depending on which ideas and the way they are expressed seem most interesting at the time. What is so important about one's posts that one has to 'stand by them'? If anything we would hope that henceforth we will somehow be a bit more wise, and what we did previously represented a time when we were stupider, less insightful, less experienced, so burying the past rather than fixating on it as some kind of shrine to our own glory would be a better choice. No one is ever so perfect that improvement cannot be imagined and then implemented. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : OK, that's it, I've said most of what I wanted to say. If anyone responds to any of these posts, my follow-up is: I stand by what I wrote. Anything Barry or aryavazhi adds will most likely involve deliberate misrepresentations, so take that into account. Others of Barry's thugs may decide to emulate their Dear Leader in the hope of receiving his strokes. Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.
