[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Oh, I see. I thought you had quoted that exchange

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/05 11:06 AM, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we should start a beer company: Satsang Beer -- the beer that transmits the true non-dual state. How would we get it to stay in the bottle? HA!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we should start a beer company: Satsang Beer

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/05 12:12 PM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Papaji shows contempt for his students, and that's a virtue; He's merely saying 'listen, just because I gave you the taste of the non-dual state doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice

2005-10-03 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have concluded from this that there is nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson snip People can get enlightened without these inner structures. Then they tend to think they are fully perfect as they are and also superior beings. They desperately need their enlightenment to be seen, and themselves to be seen as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello - I am very new on this list, but wanted to respond to this last bit. I am one of those people who somehow managed to experience things in reverse order. Strangely, it had the opposite effect on my ego...to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. The one she is speaking to, Rasa, is also a woman, with a very unusual website to say the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote: What if we began our own accounting of such deaths? My start is the attached table. If you think it makes sense you might solicit names on FFL. I'm part of an

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding your comments below - I would think that your perspective would be that everyone is actually blazing Brahman already, and just have to realize it. In that case, what special status would you give to those

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great question, and one I was thinking about some after writing this post. All I can really say is that while technically all are blazing Brahman already, some appear to blaze a lot brighter than others

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Energy (ananda, bliss, laughter, Shiva) = Mass (sat, love, Vishnu) times the speed of light (chit, consciousness, Brahma) squared (aware of itself). Mass resisted (denied the light of self- knowledge) becomes

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would *appear* anyhow that the Brahma-point at the center of the Hiranyagarbha (poised between the mountain-cone of Vishnu and the upside down cone of Shiva) becomes aware of itself via a very quick churning

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps to impress new members? *lol* I hadn't thought of that, Judy! You think it might work? Wow! What would the benefit be to me, I wonder, if new members are impressed? And what do you mean by impressed, anyhow?

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it would appear that when one's Brahma or creative consciousness withholds approval or Self-knowledge from a given mind-matter impulse, then that impulse separates/is separated from the Whole and holds

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps to impress new members? *lol* I hadn't thought of that, Judy! You think it might work? Wow! What would the benefit be to me, I

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all of this (four last posts) is your direct experience? Or imaginative speculation. Yes, yes. And its useful, how? Helps me understand myself. Many thanks for asking :-) Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BC really stands for Borg Consciousnness. You will be assimilated. :-) Resistance is indeed futile :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, first, it isn't real clear why you believe you know what kinds of experiences I've had. And second, it's interesting that you think my comment was a function of being pissed off, for whatever reason. I thought

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, first, it isn't real clear why you believe you know

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
Rory: If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, as a substitute for genuine intimacy and appreciation of Self/Other/Self, those will indeed be wrong or demonic -- i.e., diseased, based around pain, an attempt to mask or compensate for primal fear, guilt and

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Energy (ananda, bliss, laughter, Shiva) = Mass (sat, love, Vishnu) times the speed of light (chit, consciousness, Brahma) squared

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, as a substitute for genuine intimacy and appreciation

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If I entertain addictions to adulation, flirtation, and so on, as a substitute for genuine intimacy and appreciation

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if posting to FFL is an addiction. I wonder if before posting, we should all close our eyes and see if there is some discomfort in the body. And If so, attentionize and breath through it. Then open our eyes

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: genuine physical immortality is not physical existence any longer, at least in the sense it is commonly understood. It would appear

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if posting to FFL is an addiction. I wonder

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Energy (ananda, bliss, laughter, Shiva) = Mass (sat, love, Vishnu) times the speed of light (chit, consciousness, Brahma) squared (aware of itself). Mass resisted (denied the light of self- knowledge) becomes painful

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ...with Vishnu as Love, Sat/Being, Sattva; Brahma as Light, Chit/Consciousness, Rajas; and Shiva as Laughter, Ananda/Bliss, Tamas. Again, the two poles of the Hiranyagarbha or horned-torus are at either end of its

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-18 Thread Rory Goff
A few interpolations and some expansions interleaved below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From here we move across a gap into the lighter side of Transcendence-II as the densest form of Light or Consciousness in the 9th state (Brahma-Vishnu

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-18 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops - below should be Complement of Transcendence-*II* (Brahma-Shiva- Shiva) and ...incorporating the Bliss-complements of Transcendence- *I* (Shiva-Vishnu-Vishnu), just in case anyone actually is reading any of this. My

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Thanks, Rory, interesting!. Question: Where does YHVH (YAHWEH) fit into all of this? Thanks again. Nice question, many thanks, purushaz! Here's how I understand it at the moment: Within the pivotal 13-state

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip although again, none of this will probably be viewable upon first conscious immersion in and as Brahman -- for one thing, when first comprehending the speed of light, the light itself appears to disappear (Dark

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So as we see it at this point anyhow, all of this is a part of Brahma- loka, specifically in what we might call Mahar-loka, corresponding to details of the Solar Plexus and the Full Moon Nakshatra and Brahman

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So as we see it at this point anyhow, all of this is a part of Brahma- loka, specifically in what we might call Mahar-loka, corresponding to details of the Solar Plexus and the Full Moon Nakshatra and Brahman

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting that, Rory. It saves me the time and gasoline to drive to town tonight to get my fill of mind-numbing

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I had a disscusion Regarding the word 'knowledge' in a different group settings and we had issues in resolving the true meaning of the word. we are used to by now to see knowledge as constructed in

[FairfieldLife] Re: press report: Peace Palace in Nova Scotia, Canada

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Gravity is the unifying value of Natural Law, which promotes the progress and well-being of everyone and everything in the universe,' Maharishi said. 'The force of gravity can be commanded by the mind through Yogic

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again- If I understand what you have written above, is it so that those 'in' CC, GC, and UC are still working out earthly karma, and hence still bound to the wheel of earthly life and death, impression-

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting that, Rory. It saves me the time and gasoline to drive to town tonight to get my fill of mind-numbing Hiranyagarbledygook. HA! Good one, Alex; a truly Vedic pronunciation if I ever saw one! still,

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again- If I understand what you have written above, is it so that those 'in' CC, GC, and UC are still working out earthly karma

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rory. As I am not at a point of seeing this directly, nor do I have such an interest currently, nonetheless it is a similar experience in the mind, as listening to the Veda being chanted is to the body.

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without a doubt- otherwise what is there to do? I give up; what? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see what you mean, thank you for capturing the wave into words. :) My pleasure! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---That's obvious. At any time before or after Enlightenment, take the Bodhisattva vow to help others, in any type of body appropriate for the task. Do this for a couple of trillion mayayugas for an evaluation;

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is consciousness independent of the physical body? There are a couple of ways to define consciousness; my current understanding of it is as not-Self, and merely one of the three gunas (along with love and bliss, or matter

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is consciousness independent of the physical body? There are a couple of ways to define consciousness; snip A couple of ways -- what a laugh

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is consciousness independent of the physical body

[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We are one, we are many; we are a countless multitude of ourselves, showing ourselves ever-differing combinations of ourselves in the permutations of love, consciousness and bliss -- like dipping our fingers

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, paradox twice again rears its mirrored head! The true nature of Self is infinite, formless, undifferentiated. Yet, to be aware of it requires consciousness of its Self. Attention on the Infinite is pure

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
A couple of ways -- what a laugh! There are countless ways for consciousness to define itself :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17 at last count, I believe. Seems more like googolplexes -- but perhaps we are defining defining in different ways --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Pall and Yagyas

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2005, at 10:56 AM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is typically a menu of ritual services with prices and Hindus with money pay routinely for

[FairfieldLife] Re: the word 'knowledge' semantics misc

2005-10-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that - or someone kept count on your enlightened ramblings.. :-) *LOL* And they only found 17? One of us is slipping :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He,he,he, Hey Tom, someone's gonna be surprised, aren't they? Don't be foolish. Nobody is going to be surprised. Online Etymology

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From these definitions it looks pretty clear that somebody is indeed going to be taken unawares, overtaken, grasped, and seized -- by Nobody :-) Whereupon since Nobody has Nothing better to do, Nobody decides

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From these definitions it looks pretty clear that somebody is indeed going to be taken unawares, overtaken, grasped, and seized

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
sparaig wrote: Or not. My interpretation of witnessing is rather different than many people's here. Rory Goff wrote: I am talking about the *death* of witnessing; what about you? :-) sparaig wrote: No idea... You have no idea how your interpretation of witnessing differs

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking perhaps not exactly, unless by interpretation of witnessing he means witnessing is irrelevant :-) Or unless we use witnessing to mean a specific distancing technique to separate ourselves quickly from

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking perhaps not exactly, unless by interpretation of witnessing he means witnessing is irrelevant :-) Or unless we use witnessing

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. I got your joke. I was following up on it. It seems Rory is the only one outside the humor loop. I did see the obvious surface implications of no idea; I was just trying to go a little deeper into Sparaig's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....

2005-10-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. I got your joke. I was following up on it. It seems Rory is the only one outside the humor loop. Funny, I always figured Brahman had a good sense of humor. I mean look at that maya thing. Your Wholeness

[FairfieldLife] 27 States of consciousness (Was: To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment)

2005-10-22 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The pairs Purna Phalguni (former red one (?), delta Leonis) and Uttara Phalguni (latter red one (?), beta Leonis, Denebola) now align with the two halves of Transcendence (Transcendence-I, Purna Phalguni, state

[FairfieldLife] 27 States of consciousness (Was: To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment)

2005-10-22 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The pairs Purna Phalguni (former red one (?), delta Leonis) and Uttara Phalguni (latter red one (?), beta Leonis, Denebola) now

[FairfieldLife] 27 States of consciousness (Was: To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment)

2005-10-22 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The pairs Purna Phalguni (former red one (?), delta

[FairfieldLife] 27 States of consciousness (Was: To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment)

2005-10-22 Thread Rory Goff
. [718,2] ; N. of a place of pilgrimage BhP. On Oct 22, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Rory Goff wrote: The traditional translation of Phalguni as red one does not make a lot of sense to me. I am tempted to see Phal- as fruit and -Guni as guna, action Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] 27 States of consciousness (Was: To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment)

2005-10-22 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks, Vaj. I also really like the definition below of weak, etc., as I have just now been playing with the possibilities that the 3 Vishnu-Vishnu subgunas (Conception, pre-natal sleep, pre- natal dream

[FairfieldLife] Re:was Email - Now comments on Gable's editorial

2005-07-22 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always equated Shiva with Jesus As in Jehesua Jehovasha shivoham Pass the butter. You ever read Alain Danielou's book, Gods of Ecstasy? Very nice correlates between Shiva and Dionysos, whom many others equate

[FairfieldLife] Re:was Email - Now comments on Gable's editorial

2005-07-22 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always equated Shiva with Jesus As in Jehesua Jehovasha shivoham Pass the butter. You ever read Alain Danielou's book

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Therefore, it would appear to be a phenomenon that is not entirely physical, and takes place at least to some extent on subtle physical levels. If you're asking whether it was ever recorded on film, I don't think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details of everything and he loves to micro-manage organisations...perhaps he wouldn't be able to pass up the opportunity to micro-manage an organisation that Ex-TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe to be the irrelevant parts of your response and leave in the parts I want to address. You wrote: Did you experience it only once? Nope. Many times. As did most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is playing head games with the readers of your posts in order to feed your ego: Look at me, I've experienced the ultimate cool spiritual power and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's entirely possible he can be a decent, genuine human being in person. Jim's right; I think you both are truly great -- as is Jim himself! Let's raise a glass to all three of you -- if not tonight in a cafe in Paris

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that. I am leaving this group because there is so much stupid threads going on and on and on about nothing. Get a fvcking job guys. Go help old ladies, travel the world. Get a life. Have a good one

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on these phenomena if you care to share them. Many of us have had these experiences which are experienced as real, yet not quite physical. You've spoken before

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Someone asked an honest question, I gave an hones answer. That's all. All the pissy stuff isince has been from people who didn't like

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
Hey Jim! Many thanks. A few responses interleaved below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: Indeed there is a clear sense of the quickening or raising of the vibration of the physical body before these fluid-state phenomena occur,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's the attachment to there being some trick or something else that has to happen before we realize our enlightenment that seems to prevent the realization of enlightenment. I completely agree. Subtle (or

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Thanks for responding Rory. Your Nowness is always much appreciated! Thanks for sharing these, Jim! Your boundless appreciation is always much appreciated! :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think my inner dialogues had moulded the ground for this transition. Can definitely relate, Irmeli -- after getting fed up with the carrot- on-a-stick and deciding to accept/insist on Perfection NOW, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nyah. The enlightened remember what its like NOT to be enlightened, snip Gotta say it's more like a memory of a memory of a memory -- not a lot of juice there. Rather, am continually surprised by people's steadfast

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's the attachment to there being some trick

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting! I am on the first few chapters of the new Harry Potter book myself :-) How very very interesting, my wife is reading it, and I will be reading it after. Wow. I take your point; how very unusual

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be for you, assuming you're realized. No, I am not realized; *au contraire* I am falsified, slain, dismembered, scattered to the winds of Love by remembering Reality IS :-) That doesn't mean that's what it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get Enlightened

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, was going to say obscure? My irony meter wasn't working very well for a moment... :-D To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It worries me a little to think what might happen if a significant number of people become realized. If they all behave like this--with

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get Enlightened

2005-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It appears to me to be more like waking up doesn't mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, I think I understand what you are saying here -- you

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sorry, I keep having further thoughts on this: The mind can certainly get into making distinctions that go way beyond what's needed for survival, to the point where it becomes actually *harmful* to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real magic of Harry Potter (no spoilers)

2005-07-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And, IMO, it doesn't, and never has. What the world needs is a book or set of books that does for enlightenment what the Harry Potter books have done for magic -- make it ordinary, everyday. Because it is. It

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