[FairfieldLife] Sam Harris on Free Will and the abuses of religious ecstasy
http://www.samharris.org My comments on his 2 articles Free Will - when he says there's no free will, an alternative would be that it's a genuine paradox. ... On the abuses of religious ecstasy, he's objecting to the abusive practices that go along with fundamentalist belief systems, not the core of pure Spiritual ecstasy brought on by certain practices such as Sufi dancing and chanting. ...However, I object to what he believes is an extended conclusion to the abuse part. He seems to be saying that it might be wise to separate out the belief systems from the experiential Spiritual ecstacy engendered by the practices, but independent of the many belief systems that he finds objectionable. ... I maintain - that as a matter of experience and observation; even among those religions not declaring you as a mortal enemy, the often irrational belief systems act as carriers for the Shakti energy. Then, no Shakti, no genuine Spiritual ecstasy. ... The belief systems might be useless/dangerous baggage to some, but just try separating out and discarding those religious coverings from the core experiences of Spiritual ecstasy (Bliss). Nobody has yet succeeded in accomplishing this feat thus far. ... Example - the TM puja is steeped in religious beliefs, and it's here to stay as a vehicle for the transmission of Shakti. I challenge Harris to come up with a Bliss-generator that is totally independent if the religious coverings that act as transmitting mechanisms for the Shakti. . Possible example : mindfulness and Dr. Bensson's relaxation response - clearly second rate in comparison to TM.
[FairfieldLife] Little Mice Master
by Tursic: http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g24/106724/106724_1362390193_large.jpg
[FairfieldLife] The Agony in the Garden
by Andrea Mantgegna, 1461,. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/6244.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Bacchanal
Bacchanal, the Andrians; Nicolas Poussin, 1628: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/31625.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Construction of the Temple in Jerusalem
Jean Fouquet, 15-th century: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/21051.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Saint Jayne Mansfield
by Vicki Berndt: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2013/Berndt/Berndt_LG_Saint-Jayne-Mansfield.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Hitler saluting troops
Hitler saluting troops of the Condor Legion, returning from Spain: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/78505.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Jackson, Travolta, Keitel, and Tarantino
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/79749.jpg
[FairfieldLife] featuring Major General John B. Gordon
featured in Weird or What? with William Shatner. Interviewed a dude who traveled to the Antietam battlefield site and had an emotional meltdown. Bought a magazine at the gift shop with a pic of Confederate Gen. John B. Gordon, shot multiple times at the Battle of Antietam. The dude claims that Gordon one of his former incarnations. (looks very similar). Didn't mention the General's involvement in the Ku Klux Klan after the War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Gordon
[FairfieldLife] The School of Athens
by Raphael, 1506. Plato and Aristotle are the central figures. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/136.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Eclipse
by Jie Ma http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g90/291090/291090_1274824890_large.jpg
[FairfieldLife] by Ki Yong Sim
Blonde, by Ki Yong Sim: http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g54/187754/187754_1358889599_large.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Shroom
by Laurent Pierlot: http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g96/30696/30696_1351660661_large.jpg
[FairfieldLife] A bad day for the Knights Templar
Friday the 13-th, Oct. 1307 - Knights Templar arrested in France. Disbanded in 1312 by Pope Clement V. ... Another bad day in 1187, Battle of the Horn - Jerusalem recaptured by Saladin.: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Hattin.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Sylvia Browne makes wrong prediction about Amanda Berry
2004 - Browne's wrong prediction. http://abcnews.go.com/US/amanda-berrys-mom-told-pyschic-sylvia-browne-berry/story?id=19126853
[FairfieldLife] Re: A bad day for the Knights Templar
Knights Templar procession, Detroit http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/78128.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/08/171506669/knights-of-malt\ a-celebrates-900th-anniversary-at-vatican http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/08/171506669/knights-of-mal\ ta-celebrates-900th-anniversary-at-vatican --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: Vatican declares Knights Templar innocent for 700th anniversary http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2623 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu wrote: Friday the 13-th, Oct. 1307 - Knights Templar arrested in France. Disbanded in 1312 by Pope Clement V. ... Another bad day in 1187, Battle of the Horn - Jerusalem recaptured by Saladin.: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Hattin.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Sri Chakra drawn by Ramana Maharshi
Color pencil Sri Chakra drawn by Ramana Maharshi for Venuammal, probably around the year 20: http://www.ashrama.org/images/sri-cakra.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Virtual tour of Arunachaleswarar Temple, Thiruvannamalai
Near the Ashram of Ramana Maharshi. . Accompanied by music. Click onto any arrows if you wish to go in that direction. http://view360.in/virtualtour/thiruvannamalai/
[FairfieldLife] New Shiva Temple in London
Open but still under construction - Lewisham, S. London. Dedicated to Arunachala Shiva: http://www.londonsivankovil.org.uk/gallery/index.php?twg_album=IMAGES%2FKumbabishekamtwg_show=IMG_7688.JPG
[FairfieldLife] Introduction to phytosomes
http://www.phytosomes.info/
[FairfieldLife] Can Gurus help us after they die?
From The Maharshi, May/June 2013, page 3.: A visitor asked once whether the contact with the Guru would continue after the dissolution of his [Ramana's] body and he replied: 'The Guru is not the physical form, so contact will remain even after his physical form vanishes'. If it be asked how he can guide individuals or perform any function after having become One with the Absolute, the answer is: in the first place, he has not become One with the Absolute but simply realized his preexisting and eternal Oneness. In the second place, he had already realized this Oneness while wearing the body and was universal then as he is now. He himself told us that death makes no difference to the jnani. . http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/ .
[FairfieldLife] Archangel Michael and St. Francis
LArchangel Michael and St. Francis of Assisi, by Juan de Flandes, 1505, Netherlands.: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/34523.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Gurus help us after they die?
Thanks for your input. A report by Arthur Osborne years after Ramana's death republished in The Maharshi, May/June, 2013: . While the present article was being written, it so happened that the Ashram received a letter from an American woman who never saw the Maharshi, and indeed has never been to India, containing the following message: Great blessing and benediction was unexpectedly mine. At 7 a.m., just before waking, a vivid vision of Maharshi, potent znd powerful, was vouchsafed briefly to me, in colour. Yes, I know visions are not our aim and goal. However, the depth of surrender, ecstasy, awe, wave after wave, deeper and deeper - wave after wave of Bliss ineffable - was overwhelming, wonderful and encouraging: almost all vestige of mind was gone. Of course, thankful, humble and grateful, my dedication deepens greatly after this. The important and impact of it is with me still --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: What is this madness Yifu - just leave Ramana alone OK? Nothing has changed since my last update - he is still enjoying in heaven and doesn't want to deal with idiots like you anymore, OMG the man already paid his dues to the society - he was starving and he was forced to create for him and others to deal with poverty and sickness. Anyway for people who don't know, here's my report from Ramana - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/295357 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: ** From The Maharshi, May/June 2013, page 3.: A visitor asked once whether the contact with the Guru would continue after the dissolution of his [Ramana's] body and he replied: 'The Guru is not the physical form, so contact will remain even after his physical form vanishes'. If it be asked how he can guide individuals or perform any function after having become One with the Absolute, the answer is: in the first place, he has not become One with the Absolute but simply realized his preexisting and eternal Oneness. In the second place, he had already realized this Oneness while wearing the body and was universal then as he is now. He himself told us that death makes no difference to the jnani. . http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/ .
[FairfieldLife] Dome report for May/June
Should be ready on June 24-th: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StdpKu50sZg
[FairfieldLife] McQueen
Steve McQueen, unknown photographer: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/79595.jpg
[FairfieldLife] The Earthstore Bodhisattva
(Ksitigharba - rescues living entities from Hell): .Taiwan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_Store_Bodhisattva.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Magnesium L Threonate reverses neurodegeneration
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/feb2012_Novel-Magnesium-Compound-Reverses-Neurodegeneration_01.htm?source=searchkey=magnesium%20L%20Threonate
[FairfieldLife] Hitler with the Goebbels Family
1938, Heinrich Hoffman: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/7/65202.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Russian Royal Family
The Romanovs, 1913, Livadia Palace: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Russian_Royal_Family_1911_720px.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Netherlandish Proverbs
Peter Brueghel the Elder, 1559: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/59066.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Grigory Rasputin, Putyatin, and Lotman
Rasputin with Major General Putyatin and Col. Lotman; 1904 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33894.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Men in Balloon
by Karl Bulla, Russia: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33905.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Cinnamon reduces neurodegeneration
http://www.life-enhancement.com/magazine/article/2862-cinnamon-reduces-neurodegeneration . Cinnulin brand is best. (large quantities of ordinary cinnamon can be toxic).
[FairfieldLife] The Holographic Principle
The Holographic metauniverse as a physical/metaphysical entity is an expression of the Holographic principle (in the physics context - refer to the topic in Wiki, especially with reference to Stanford's Dr. Susskind). In The Divine Matrix by Gregg Braden, 2007, 2012; Hay House, the author refers to this principle and on pages 2080109 lists 20 key ingredients. [disclaimer - I don't necessarily agree with his statements]: . Key 1: The Divine Matrix is the container that holds the universe, the bridge between all things, and the mirror that shows us what we have created. Key 2: Everything in our world is connected to everything else. Key 3. To tap the force of the universe itself, we must see ouselves as part of the world rather than separate from it. Key 4. Once something is joined, it is always connected, whether it remains physically linked or not. Key 5. The act of focusing our consciousness is an act of creation. Consciousness creates! Key 6. We have all the power we need to create all the changes we choose! [I disagreewe 'potentially' have more power but not necessarily all we need. Far from it.] Key 7. The focus of our awareness becomes the reality of our world. Key 8. To simply say that we choose a new reality is not enough! Key 9. Feeling is the language that speaks to the Divine Matrix. e [Bradden's terms for the Holographic Principle]. feel as though your goal is accomplished and your prayer is already answered. Key 10. No just any feeling will do. The ones that create must be without ego and judgment. [easier said than done, and not necessarily true anyway]. Key 11. We must become in our lives the things that we choose to experience as our world. Key 12. We are not bound by the laws of physics as we know them today. [This one needs more clarification and examples. Offhand, if somebody physically dissolves into White Light, I'd say that might be true, but I haven't seen that. Even advanced Gurus succumb to the Laws of Entropydust to dust, ashes to ashes.]. Key 13. In a holographic something, every piece of the something mirrors the whole something. Key 14. The univrsally connected hologram of consciousness promises that the instant we create good wishes and prayers, they are already received at their destination. [true but not necessary manifested physically]. Key 15. Through the hologram of consciousness, a little change in our lives is mirronred everywhere in our world. Key 16. The minimum number of people required to jump-start a change in consciousness is the sq root of one percent of a population [he quotes the MMY Effect and uncritically accepts this as a fact] Key 17. The Divine Matrix serves as the mirror in our world of the relationships that we create in our beliefs. Key 18. The root of our negative experiences may be reduced to one of three universal fears (or a combination of them): abandonment, low self-worth, or lack of trust. [only part of the equation. Don't forget the storehouse of bad karma, conditioned behavior, and in general just lack of potential]. Key 19. Our true beliefs are mirrored in our most intimate relationships. [depends on what is meant by intimate]. Key 20: We must become in our lives the very things that we choose to experience in our world. ..[that's it from Braden's book]. ... RIVER OF LIFE IN A NDE: http://angelicview.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/the-river-of-life/
[FairfieldLife] Make it rain
Make It Rain, by Mark Gleason: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2013/Gleason/Gleason_LG_Make-It-Rain.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Rubber Lady
Rubber Lady, Mexico; by Neon Park, 1981: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2012/Events/Black-Friday/NeonPark_LG_RubberLady.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Woman with doll
by Holly Wood
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman with doll
http://artfangs.com/NewFiles/Painting56.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: by Holly Wood
[FairfieldLife] Sam Harris - Athiesm and Martial Arts
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/what-martial-arts-have-to-do-with-atheism/275273/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
right!apparently CC, UC,...etc; don't have much bearing on strategic blunders, and fooling one'self. Such states involve transcending relative existence, not necessarily making changes or selecting certain options of behavior in relative existence. Ramakrishna smoked on occasion, although I haven't found a statement as to exactly how much. In any event, that could have been a contributing cause to his fatal throat cancer. ... Nikola Tesla by Napoleon Sarony: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52903.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Well, MMYP sincerely believed that John Hagelin would win the 2000 election, from what I hear. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Lawson! Really?! Fully enlightened and able to fool one's self?! Maybe by fully enlightened you mean CC only? I don't see how a person in UC or Brahman could possibly fool themselves. Ok, maybe Nisargadatta fooled himself about the dangers of smoking cigarettes. Anyway, can you give an example? Thanks. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras  Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness brings with it total honesty, doesn't mean that that is really the case. I can conceive of situations where one might be fully enlightened according to some aspect of the TM definition, and still be fooling themselves. Of course, if you define enlightenment as never fooling yourself, then this doesn't make sense. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Lawson, couldn't they be having an internal dialogue and be witnessing it, not identifying with it, not being gripped by it?àSomething along those lines. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras àWe all tell ourselves lies. Even fully enlightened people likely lie to themselves, but since they allegedly no longer have an internal dialogue, they can't catch their own lies because they appear to be intuitive truths. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am simply unafraid of the truth. But you like most extremists can't stand the truth. I was a real TM true believer and became unafraid to look clearly with no blinders on at Marshy, TMO and TM itself. I didn't like what I found, but dealing with the truth is better than continuing to tell myself lies. From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras Ãâàyou have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most extremist statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense too. So I doubt any careful observer cares much anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE
Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God. ... Now back to Anita Moorjani: She seems to have bypassed Locale I and II altogether, but had telepathic and feeling contact with her dead Dad and her best friend who previously died of Cancer. ... Then she seems to have merged completely (but temporarily) into Brahman, and she equates God with Being and with Universal Energy. ... That's about it for these NDE's. http://anitamoorjani.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifuxero@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Â Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God. ... Now back to Anita Moorjani: She seems to have bypassed Locale I and II altogether, but had telepathic and feeling contact with her dead Dad and her best friend who previously died of Cancer. ... Then she seems to have merged completely (but temporarily) into Brahman, and she equates God with Being and with Universal Energy. ... That's about it for these NDE's. http://anitamoorjani.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifuxero@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Â Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God
[FairfieldLife] Enemy of Mankind
by Nicholas Roerich, 1914: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/40978.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Sultan Bayezid imprisoned by Timur
1878, by Stanislaw Chlebowski. Timur is also called Tamerlane. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Chlebowski-Bajazyt_w_niewoli.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Bret Harte
American author and poet, 1836 - 1902: Photo by Sarony . http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52886.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uranus/Pluto square!
By Rick DiClemente During the next 3 years, transiting Uranus and transiting Pluto will square off 5 more times exactly. They already have twice. The other time periods are scheduled for May 20, 2013, Nov. 1, 2013, Apr. 21, 2014, Dec. 15, 2014 and Mar. 16 of 2015 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFqp6U4cUO8
[FairfieldLife] Divine Healing Hands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyFTMSrHnf8
[FairfieldLife] M.C. Escher and crystal ball
1935 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/78428.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Master Sha's Blessings
Master Zhi Gang Sha in Mumbai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgjDj1DFGyw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Master Sha's Blessings
Cult alert! http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,57321 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Master Zhi Gang Sha in Mumbai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgjDj1DFGyw
[FairfieldLife] Tory Burch in India
fashion designer Tory Burch, 2009: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Tory_Burch_in_India.JPG
[FairfieldLife] Brooklyn
Brooklyn Decker, actress, model: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1057600256/nm2395937
[FairfieldLife] Peter Lorre with cats
1944 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/77996.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Jaya Jaya Arthi Nityananda
(Nityananda, Guru of Muktananda): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6V4c6gLY7I
[FairfieldLife] Sri Guru Gita in Ganeshpuri
Ganeshpuri - location of Ashrams of Muktananda and Nityananda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJQvVbpU3Eg
[FairfieldLife] How to subdue evil tyrants
First, use Psalm 91; but definitely get Psalm 91 - True Life Stories with case histories from Peggy Joyce Ruth. .. Next, pray to St. Michael the Archangel to subdue the evil dictators. http://www.theworkofgod.org/Saints/Lives/SMichael.htm ... If enough people do this, the evil ones will self-destruct. However, we don't know in advance how the situation(s) will play out - whether there will be an actual physical war or not. In any event, the prayers will help insure the victory of Good over evil; and we can look to cases like Nebuchadnezzar to get an idea of the end result.
[FairfieldLife] Woman in corset
1899 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/78035.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Museum of Purgatory
http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/museum-holy-souls-purgatory
[FairfieldLife] Dr. Royal Rife silenced by the medical Mafia
http://www.naturalnews.com/027104_cancer_WHO_Chi.html
[FairfieldLife] Lady with Unicorn
by Raphael http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Lady_with_unicorn_by_Rafael_Santi.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Sam Harris vs Glenn Greenwald
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/dear-fellow-liberal2
[FairfieldLife] Featuring George Fox
http://www.ushistory.org/penn/fox.htm From Sodom Had No Bible by Leonard Ravenhill, Offspring, 1971, 2012; page 162: Many times Fox prophesied of future events that were revealed to him. Visions often came to him. Once in Lancashire, England, as he was climbing Pendle hill, he had a vision of a coming revival in that very area. He saw the countryside alive with men, all moving to one place. . In personal appearance Fox was a large man with remarkable piercing eyes. His words were like a flash of lightening. His judgment was clear, and his logic convincing. His great spiritual gift was a remarkable discernment. He seemed to be able to read the characters of men by looking at them. He likened the temperaments of people to a wolf, a serpent, a lion, or a wasp. He could meet a person and say, I see the spirit of a cunning fox in you. You have the nature of a serpent. Or, Thou art as vicious as a tiger Fox was far in advance of any other person in his day, in spiritual matters. Above all, George Fox excelled in prayer.
[FairfieldLife] Introduction to Quaker guns
(fake guns used to mimic the real thing and scare off attackers - often made of wood painted black). Would these be classified as assault weapons? . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:QuakerGunPortHudson1863.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Hotsprings of Gienah
by Vidom (click onto image): http://vidom.deviantart.com/art/Hot-springs-of-Gienah-329960310
[FairfieldLife] Interspecies marriage?
O'Reilly exchanged words with Laura Ingraham on the marriage issue. She takes the Bible says so approach; while Bill says that the civil arguments will eventually prevail since they don't rely on God says so? ... I support interspecies marriage with elves.: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=1087564utm_source=cgsocietyutm_medium=cgchoiceutm_term=1087564
[FairfieldLife] Heretical teachings in Evangelical Christianity
Preacher Steve Hill (the fiery evangelist from the Brownsville Revival) claims to have had a Divinely inspired prophetic vision from God: http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/34894-steve-hill-the-spiritual-avalanche-that-could-kill-millions . Charisma Magazine April 2013 says False teachings running rampant within he American church have a created a whiteout condition for millions of believers. Here's how to detect - and overcome - these destructive doctrines before it's too late. ... Then Hill lists 7 heretical teachings in the possible avalanche overcoming beleivers: ... 1. Overemphasis of Prosperity 2. Exaggerated View of Grace. [my comment: this refers to hyper-grace teachings of some who live in sin and use hyper-grace (i.e. readily available forgiveness) to justify repeated sins. In other words, do what you want since all the Christian needs is forgiveness to eradicate sin, then repeat the process.] 3. Antinomianism - against law [this is an extreme form of hyper-...grace]. In practice, it means that anything goes since Jesus ...has set us free. ... 4. Deification of Man We are in grave danger worldwide as millions upon millions gaze upon man rather than God. 5. Challenging the Authority of the Word [truth comes from God via the Bible]. 6. Rejecting Hell 7. Universal Reconciliation. 3.
[FairfieldLife] Christ Resurrected
by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ Resurrected
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg (in the air version) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
[FairfieldLife] The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar
Yogananda claims that his dead Guru Sri Yukteswar appeared to him in a Resurrected, physically manifested body in 1936.: http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap43.php ...[excerpts from Autobiography of a Yogi, Chapter 43]: Y explains: As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior. [Hiranyaloka]. The dwellers on Hiranyaloka are highly developed spiritually; all of them had acquired, in their last earth-incarnation, the meditation-given power of consciously leaving their physical bodies at death. No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa samadhi. . [Footnote, page 458 states]: In sabilkalpa samadhi the devotee has attained realization of his oneness with Spirit but cannot maintain his cosmic consciousness except in the immobile trance state. By continuous meditation he reaches the superior state of nirbakalpa samadhi, in which he may move freely in the world without any loss of God-perception. In nirbikalpa samadhi the yogi dissolves the last vestiges of his material of earthly karma. Nevertheless, he may still have certain astral and causal karma to work out, and therefore takes astral and then causal reembodiments on high-vibrational spheres.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar
vid on My Guru - Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFCK7d0RyO4 . [page 475 - Yogananda quotes Sri Yukteswar as saying]: My child his voice rang out, vibrating into my very soul-firmament, whenever you enter the door of nirbikalpa samadhi and call on me, I shall come to you in flesh and blood, even as today. With this celestial promise Sri Yukteswar vanished from my sight. A cloud-voice repeated in musical thunder: Tell all! Whosoever knows by nirbikalpa realization that your earth is a dream of God can come to the finer dream-created planet of Hiranyaloka, and there find me resurrected in a body exactly like my earthly one. Yogananda, tell all! . On page 473, Yogananda says Angelic Guru, I said, your body looks exactly as it did when last I wept over it in the Puri ashram.. [Sri Yukteswar replies]: Oh, yes, my new body is a perfect copy of the old one. I materialize or dematerialize this form any time at will, much more frequently than I did while on earth. By quick dematerialization, I now travel instantly by lighy express from planet to planet or, indeed, from astral to causal or to physical cosmos. My divine guru smiled. Though you move about so fast these days, I had no difficulty in finding you at Bombay. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Yogananda claims that his dead Guru Sri Yukteswar appeared to him in a Resurrected, physically manifested body in 1936.: http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap43.php ...[excerpts from Autobiography of a Yogi, Chapter 43]: Y explains: As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior. [Hiranyaloka]. The dwellers on Hiranyaloka are highly developed spiritually; all of them had acquired, in their last earth-incarnation, the meditation-given power of consciously leaving their physical bodies at death. No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa samadhi. . [Footnote, page 458 states]: In sabilkalpa samadhi the devotee has attained realization of his oneness with Spirit but cannot maintain his cosmic consciousness except in the immobile trance state. By continuous meditation he reaches the superior state of nirbakalpa samadhi, in which he may move freely in the world without any loss of God-perception. In nirbikalpa samadhi the yogi dissolves the last vestiges of his material of earthly karma. Nevertheless, he may still have certain astral and causal karma to work out, and therefore takes astral and then causal reembodiments on high-vibrational spheres.
[FairfieldLife] Dome report
http://www.latimes.com/features/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-stephen-king-under-the-dome-moves-south-for-tv-20130306,0,1565730.story
[FairfieldLife] A Soul in Heaven
by William-Adolphe Bourgerou, 1878. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/7866.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Heaven and Earth
by Corrado Giaquinto, Italy: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=21571
[FairfieldLife] INSA Gif-iti
http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2012/12/the-animated-gif-iti-of-insa/
[FairfieldLife] Oh, Wonder of Wonders!
by Leonard Ravenhill, Revival God's Way - A Message for the Church, p. 21; Bethany House, 2006. LR was an Evangelical preacher, attracting large crowds in London during WWII. Later moved to Texas, died in 1994. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Ravenhill . OH, WONDER OF WONDERS!: . Oh, wonder of wonders! My God, can it be That Jesus has died For one rebel like me? He lifted my bondage And soul's misery. The Lord, King of Glory, was wounded for me. They led Him to trial; They spit in His face. He bore it alone, Oh! amazing His grace! He bowed 'neath His burden, Was scourged in my place. I'll sing it forever - Amazing His grace. With hands full of mercy, With herts full of good, My spotless Redeemer Was nailed to the wood. He suffered hell's torment, My soul to set free, Deserted by God as He hung on the tree. He died, but He rose. He extracted death's sting. He's living enthroned, My Saviour, my King. Let the earth hear His voice, Men and angels proclaim: He's coming! He's coming! He's coming again! With the saints marching in, I shall be in that throng. In the great Hallelujahs, I'll join in that song. With apostles and prophets, But best, Lord, with Thee, I shall live, I shall live - eternally!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Balloon of Ignorance Punctured by Needle of Scientific Curiosity
rightdoes the bollocks diagram contain itself in which case we enounter a paradox. The way to effectively evade the paradox is to call a Venn diagram of everything...relative and Absolute; the Class of All Sets. The mathematician Cantor came up with a mathematical equivalency. Label the Class of All Sets E. Conceptualize Infinity and the infinite set of all Infinities. Conceptualize such an infinite set of Infinite Sets but include the transcendental Absolute; labeling this OMEGA. (O). Now O includes anything relative and Absolute, as well as finite. Finally, E = O. The Class of All Sets is identical to the Infinite Absolute. For Omega, we can substitute the word Brahman. ... Corollary: Brahman is holographic and can be depicted by the Gohonzon. (mandala). http://nichirenscoffeehouse.net/GohonzonShu/index.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Well stated Richard - that's the first thing i thought when I saw the Venn diagram, the Venn diagram wouldn't be complete without the Scientism bollocks and the Venn diagram itself. (Sharp intake of breath) - What a thought Ravi! (Whose wee, little toe nail I am not fit to clip). Should that Venn diagram contain itself as a member? If a Venn diagram of bollocks items were to contain itself within itself, it would be expressing something true (that the diagram is bollocks). In which case it would NOT be bollocks and would have to snap to a reality outside the diagram to avoid a paradox. But then... (rinse repeat). Is the set of all sets that are not members of themselves a member of itself? Duz me 'ead in. Mmmm... A nice feeling. Ze.
[FairfieldLife] New tourguides at the Whitehouse
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/70031.jpg
[FairfieldLife] The Balm of Gilead, John Willison, 1742
Willison was a preacher in the Church of Scotland. . Atonement by Patrick Devonas: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=10743 . [p. 159, Revival God's Way by Leonard Ravenhill, Bethany, 2006] . THE BALM OF GILEAD, by John Willison, 1742. A day of the ministration of the Spirit would bring many rare and rich blessings along with it, such as the discoveries of the Redeemer's glory, convictions of the evil and vileness of sin, many crowns of victory and triumph to Christ, great additions to his friends and followers. Then gospel-light would shine clear, saving knowledge increase, ignorance and error vanish, riches of free grace would be displayed, and Satan be bound up. Then ministers and ordinances would be lively, secure sinners would be awakened, dead souls would live, heard hdarts would be melted, strong lusts subdued, and many sons and daughters born to God. Such a day would heal divisions, cement breaches, make us all of one heart and mind, and bring down Heaven to earth. This would redress our grievances, remove our complaints, and unite, Christs's scattered flock. It would make true religion and holy persons to be in esteem, vice to be in disgrace, and iniquity as ashamed to hide its face. Then sabbaths and communions would be days of heaven. Prayers and praise, spiritual converse, talking of Christ and redeeming love, would be our chiefest delight. Oh, then, pray for such a time
[FairfieldLife] Michael Shermer rebuts Eben Alexander
Allegory of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ by Pat Devonas: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/10741.jpg Dr. Michael Shermer attempts to rebut Dr. Eben Alexander's NDE as being genuinely out of body and supernatural. (Alexander is a neurosurgeon who had an NDE. Claims he traveled out of the body into supernatural dimensions in which he met deceased relatives, and listened to the OM.) ... Shermer in Scientific American, Apr 2013, 86, essentially uses a similarity argument coupled with Occam's Razor. Shermer states: Migraine headaches also produce halluncinations, which Sacks [neurologist Oliver Sacks] himself has experienced as a longtime sufferer, including a 'shimmering light' that was 'dazzlingly bring' etc, etc, clouds, blah, blah. Then Shermer goes on to make the comparison: Compare Sack's experience with that of Alexander's trip to heaven, where he was in a place of clouds. Big, puffy, pink-white ones that showed up sharply against the deep blue-black sky. Higher than the clouds - immeasurably higher - flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamerlike lines behind them.. ... Then Shermer says In any case, there is a reason they are called 'near'-death experiences: the people who have then are not actually dead. Also he inquires how Alexander could have a memory of the experiences. . Finally, Dr. Shermer states To me, this evidence is proof of hallucination, not heaven. . [his arguments on the whole are similar to those of Sam Harris].
[FairfieldLife] The Messiah
by Patrick Devonas: . http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/10757.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Chief Seattle's speech of 1854
Chief Seattle says that the white people's God is not the same Great Spirit God. [an astute observation!] ... http://www.halcyon.com/arborhts/chiefsea.html
[FairfieldLife] The Thunder: Perfect Mind
Could be the dual opposite of neti, neti,... incorporated into the Brahman concept of all-inclusiveness.: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/thunder.html
[FairfieldLife] Hog Swat
Guided hog hunting in Southwest Georgia, featured on CNN. The Hog Swat CEO makes a case for AR-15's and high capacity mags since this is the most appropriate firearm system for killing the hogs which account for huge dollar losses in crops. http://hogswat.com/
[FairfieldLife] I'm a Realization Machine
Vid by Adi Da. Makes some interesting claims, like other Gurus; that people are supposed to believe just because he says it. While many of such claims are not on the surface illogical or refutable, the test of time (Kali's Power) inevitably exposes the falsity of such claims in the light of direct experience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmlLnwPKJi8 ... Example - MMY's support of Nature claim that the relaization of Pure Consciousness will enable you to fulfill all of your desires. Several problems with this: (a) what about partial realization of the Self? Does that imply partial fulfillment of desires? (b) if Hagelin is Self-Realized and wanted to be President, it appears his desire wasn't fulfilled. (c) the claim can't be falsified at first appearance; but can be tested in the long run by examining the outcomes of various efforts such as the ME Effect. Unfortunately, whatever the outcome; proponents will claim that since karma is unfathomable, the outcome supports the claim. Thus, the claims continue and time is running out. In the meantime, people are supposed to believe the Bible, the Pope, MMY, Adi Da, etc ... They have a right to make claims, but also should expect to eventually be tested by Kali.
[FairfieldLife] Prophecies of Matthias Stormberger, 1830
a Third WW and end of the Papacy... .. http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/warehousee/id14.html
[FairfieldLife] Sister Agreda bilocates to Texas
17-th century Nun, bilocated to the Americas from Spain to preach to the indigenous people. ... http://www.mariadeagreda.org/rdr.php?cat=35n=0idiomaCh=uk
[FairfieldLife] Prophecy on Catholocism
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42128.jpg
[FairfieldLife] New Pope needs a pizza delivery
courtesy of Robert Crumb: . http://rcrumb.com/files/monica.jpg
[FairfieldLife] College of Cardinals
The Cardinals shown behind the scenes, working on electing the new Pope: ... http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/38108.jpg
[FairfieldLife] ...and the next Pope will be....
Identity of the next Pope: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Curlyhoward.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Temple of Sacred Sound
click onto ENTER then Intoning Chambers at top. OM is a good one. http://www.templeofsacredsound.org ... Conclave of Cardinals working behind the scenes to elect a new Pope. (Bruce Eichelberger): ...http://beinart.org/modules/PHP-gallery/gallery_ImageView.php?gallery_id=1459image_id=7574
[FairfieldLife] Pope to return to former occupation
...as the Cardinal Ratzinger, Grand Inquisitor. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Emperor_RotJ.png
[FairfieldLife] And the next Pope will be....
by Jacques-Louis David: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/6855.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Rabbi Rami's Manifesto
from the blog of Rabbi Rami Shapiro: ... Rabbi Rami's Manifesto * Everything is a manifestation of the one thing I call God. * God is not good; good and bad are human categories about which God cares not one bit. * Life is not controllable, but you can learn to navigate it, and do some good in the process. * Thoughts and feelings are not controllable directly by the will, but you can do what's right regardless. * Religion is a human invention designed to give us the illusion of control from which we can then create a sense of meaning and purpose without admitting we are creating it. In truth, we have no control, we invent what meaning there is, and purpose is only a story we tell to hide from the specter of randomness that haunts us. * Life has no purpose; life is purpose. * Sacred texts always reflect the bias of their authors and intended audience. Don't be surprised that the Torah's Jews are God's Chosen; that the Gospels make Jesus the Christ; that the Bhagavad Gita sees Krishna as God; that the Qur'an holds Mohammad as the final Prophet; or that Harry Potter makes Harry rather than Hermione the hero. * Priests, rabbis, pastors, imams, swamis, lamas, and gurus sometimes have your best interest in mind, and always have their best interests at heart. Learn from them, but never turn your life over to them. * At its best religion is about personal freedom, social justice, and compassion for all living things. At its worst it is about power and control. Religion is rarely at its best. * Human beings can be taught to see through propagandareligious, political, commercial, etc.overcome its divisiveness, create loving communities, and glimpse the truth through science, art, music, literature, and spiritual practice. What we lack are the teachers to do this. * Spiritual practice cuts through self and selfishness, reduces conflict, and increases compassion. And that is the best we can do. Posted by Rabbi Rami at 12:54 PM 5 comments:
[FairfieldLife] We are One - Anita Moorjani
Has an Advaitic All is One experience during her NDE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH2o1FC4Lwk
[FairfieldLife] Shirdi Sai Baba virtual puja
click onto the first one, offering arati. http://www.saibabaofindia.com/shirdi-aarthi/shirdi-sai-baba-aarthi-pooja-live-virtual-blessings-.html
[FairfieldLife] Shirdi Sai Baba Mandir Aarati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBI1EkdttJA
[FairfieldLife] Re: The top five regrets...
It's also a well known fact that Krishnamurti had a long secret intimate relationship with his best friend's - only the best friend (Raja) was too dumb to know it! So much for here to here. Looks like a lot of here to there stuff. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/9.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Well that's a POV, but Om what the hell does Krishnamurti know? We've got work to do to get people from here to there. -Buck in the Dome Well, Buck, Maharhisi said Krishnamurti was in unity. Specifically he said 'too far gone in Unity'. Krishnamurti slipped into it, but never really knew how he got there, which was why he had such difficulty getting people to understand what he was talking about. That's because with enlightenment, you do not get people from here to there, that is not how it works, but unfortunately everyone interprets the journey of enlightenment from 'here to there' rather than from 'here to here'; in fact it is not even that, it is just 'here'. Maharishi understood this, as did other teachers, that you have to find a way to trick the mind into thinking that teaching is going to take you from some state to another state, presumably a better one, to motivate the mind to engage in the practices that will lead to dissolving the delusion that enlightenment is something different from what you are already experiencing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The top five regrets...
make that best friend's wife. ... Napoleon at the Battle of Austerlitz, Francois Gerard, 1810: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/33969.jpg ... And that was Raja's real wife, not a Manti Te'oed catfish wife. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu wrote: It's also a well known fact that Krishnamurti had a long secret intimate relationship with his best friend's - only the best friend (Raja) was too dumb to know it! So much for here to here. Looks like a lot of here to there stuff. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/9.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Well that's a POV, but Om what the hell does Krishnamurti know? We've got work to do to get people from here to there. -Buck in the Dome Well, Buck, Maharhisi said Krishnamurti was in unity. Specifically he said 'too far gone in Unity'. Krishnamurti slipped into it, but never really knew how he got there, which was why he had such difficulty getting people to understand what he was talking about. That's because with enlightenment, you do not get people from here to there, that is not how it works, but unfortunately everyone interprets the journey of enlightenment from 'here to there' rather than from 'here to here'; in fact it is not even that, it is just 'here'. Maharishi understood this, as did other teachers, that you have to find a way to trick the mind into thinking that teaching is going to take you from some state to another state, presumably a better one, to motivate the mind to engage in the practices that will lead to dissolving the delusion that enlightenment is something different from what you are already experiencing.
