[FairfieldLife] Various myths dispelled about Bubba

2007-10-26 Thread purushaz

 
 
 
A man boarded an airplane and took his seat. As he settled in, he 
glanced up and saw the most beautiful woman boarding the plane. He 
soon realized she was heading straight towards his seat. As fate 
would have it, she took the seat right beside his. Eager to strike up 
a conversation he blurted out, Business trip or pleasure? She 
turned, smiled and said, Business. I'm going to the Annual 
Nymphomaniacs of America Convention in Boston.

He swallowed hard. Here was the most gorgeous woman he had ever seen 
sitting next to him, and she was going to a meeting of nymphomaniacs. 
Struggling to maintain his composure, he calmly asked, What's your 
Business role at this convention? Lecturer, she responded. I use 
information that I have learned from my personal experiences to 
debunk some of the popular myths about sexuality.

Really? he said. And what kind of myths are there? Well, she 
explained, one popular myth is that African-American men are the 
most well-endo wed of all men, when in fact it is the Native American 
Indian who is most likely to possess that trait.  Another popular 
myth is that Frenchmen are the best lovers when actually it is men of 
Jewish descent who are the best. I have also discovered that the 
lover with absolutely the best stamina is the Southern Redneck.

Suddenly the woman became a little uncomfortable and blushed. I'm 
sorry, she said, I shouldn't really be discussing all of this with 
you. I don't even know your name. Tonto, the man said, Tonto 
Goldstein, but my friends call me Bubba.
 





[FairfieldLife] Collins vs Dawkins smackdown: creationism vs athiesm

2007-10-23 Thread purushaz
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26dv9y
http://www.wired.com/geekipedia



[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcending body consciousness as described by St. John.

2007-10-23 Thread purushaz
---Right, Gurus in which tradition are proficient in duplicating this 
type of experience? (that's a quiz):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sant_Kirpal_Singh


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In Revelation St. John describes his experience of transcending body
 consciousness up thru the kundalini.
 
 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard behind me a great
 voice, as of a trumpet. Rev 1:10
 
 St John was in meditation in the Spirit, leaving the realm of the
 body and senses, and heard behind him, (his attention was directed
 within or behind), a great voice, as of a trumpet, he heard the
 Pranava sound of Om the Mother of all sounds vibrating within his
 consciousness.
 
 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me.  And being 
turned,
 I was seven golden candlesticks Rev 1:12
 
 His attention was within, turned, and he saw the etheric
 counterparts of the astral chakras that look like candlesticks to
 subtle vision which *connect* the physical body to the astral body.
 
 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of
 man Rev 1:13
 
 He saw his astral body which is a counterpart to the physical body 
or
 the Son of man.
 
 And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth 
went a
 sharp two-edged sword, and his countenance was as the sun shineth in
 his strength.
 
 He saw the seven chakras seven stars of the astral body atop the
 seven candlesticks and the two petaled Ajna chakra or third 
eye sharp
 two-edged sword and he was in light the sun shineth in his
 strength. Rev 1:16
 
 
 IF thine eye be single thy body shall be full of lightMatthew 
6:22





[FairfieldLife] Sant Gurinder Singh

2007-10-23 Thread purushaz
http://www.tinyurl.com/36wv86
The main obstacle between us and the Lord is our mind. This obstacle 
can be removed only by means of joining our soul with His True Name, 
also called the Divine Melody, the Sound Current, Shabd, Word or 
Logos. This True Name cannot be written, read or spoken. It is beyond 
all sensory knowledge. It can be realised only by direct perception 
of the soul. It is ringing all the 24 hours at the third eye in the 
forehead between and slightly above the two eyebrows.

The Baba also describes this True Name as Inverted Name (Ulta Naam) 
since by repeating this one retraces one's attention, now scattered 
in the whole world, to the eye centre and from there embarks on the 
real spiritual journey through the inner regions or planes. (One 
school of thought belives that Valmiki had practised this Ulta Naam 
and transformed himself into a saint from a dacoit.)

This spiritual journey is marked by various sounds and lights that 
guide the soul back to its Home of Bliss. The journey is to be 
completed while still living in the body, here and now. This is 
a cash transaction and not an account of the future. For, one who 
is wicked and depraved during his lifetime cannot become a saint 
after death.

This path is natural and inherent in man — not designed by any human 
being. Since it is the design of the Creator, none can alter, amend 
or add to it. Only a perfect living Master is needed to teach the 
method. The method taught by a Master can be practised by anyone, 
while still remaining an adherent follower of any religion,or a 
citizen of any country.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Definitions sahaha, Sarrvikalpa, Nirvikalpa

2007-10-07 Thread purushaz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
 
  Om Namo Narayan 
  
  Sahaja means effortless and continuous - 
  (not simply the result of being in sitting meditation)
  This is rather a continous state of Consciousness versus 
  an experience that comes and goes. 
  
  Sarvikalpa - is still having an identity but it is merged 
  in Oneness. Being One 
  
  Nirvikalpa - is no me remaining - Simply IS. One does 
  not percieve any story any longer it is over. There is only 
  Pure Awareness without any attributes layered over. 
  IN Nirvikalpa Sahaja there are no longer rising thoughts 
  and oneness has dissolved into 0 point balance. 
  
  Maha Shanti
 
 Sri Ramakrishna describes this distinction very well: Savikalpa
 Samadhi was compared by Sri Ramakrishna to a cotton doll which when
 put in water gets saturated with it, and Nirvikalpa Samadhi to a 
doll
 of salt which when immersed in water dissolves and loses itself in 
it.
 Nirvikalpa is the higher...
 


 It reminds me of the saying by Christ Jesus that:  Whoever finds 
his
 life (ego) will lose it (Cosmic Awareness), and whoever loses his 
life
 (litte ego) for my sake will find it (Cosmic Consciousness).
 
 You added the new-age stuff in parentheses.  There's no evidence 
that Jesus promoted nondual Realization. (but no evidence that he 
didn't.)  The Bible doesn't give us clear indications as to what 
Jesus really said, or meant to say.
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Not all shaktipat or dharshan is equall

2007-09-26 Thread purushaz
Ron---You don't understand, how many times do we have to go over 
this?  In Muktananda's tradition, there's a transfer of Shakti from 
the BODY(s) of Muktananda to the BODY(s) of the disciple.  Therefore, 
the me in that context refers to the body, (and of course all of 
attributes that make up a person, whether Enlightend or not).
 Do you agree that your Guru is a person, as opposed to other 
persons? Then he's an individual, and in due course of conversation, 
may say I, and me often.
 Nobody is saying there's a delusional false I or 
me that your Guru identifies with. If he's Enlightened, then 
there's no such false I; however, there's still a body, mind, 
actions, reactions, conditionings, manner of social 
interactions; etc; all of which make up the I that separates 
your Guru from other people.  You will agree that your Guru is not 
MMY, correct?
 Refer to Prior to Consciousness, the transcribed statements of 
Nisargadatta Maharaj, page 31.
 The disciple asks, Ramana Maharshi was a great sage, he was unknown 
in India. When Paul Brunton wrote the book in English about him, 
everybody went to see him and he became well known 

MAHARAJ: I agree with that. Ramana Maharshi was discovered by Paul 
Brunton and I was discovered by Maurice Frydman.
 So! From the King of all Neo-Advaitins, Nisargadatta Maharaj, we 
have the use of I twice in two lines, proving there is an I; 
(since, obviously), this I doesn't refer to the delusional I 
which didn't exist in his case at the time he spoke that, but rather, 
everything - every property, quality, or attribute that made him an 
individual person, as opposed to other persons.
 One of those differences between him and RM was that the latter 
was discovered by Paul Brunton (for Westerners), and Maurice 
Frydman discovered Nisargadatta Maharaj.
 Again, hopefully for the last time, the I for Enlightened people 
is a valid referent to the entire spectrum of properties (beginning 
with the body(s); that makes up an individual person, and which 
distinguishes that person from others. But most important, the I in 
reference to Enlightened Gurus refers to a particular POV, differing 
from the POV's of other Gurus.  In some cases, the POV's are closely 
allied, such as Nisargadatta Maharaj and RM.
 In other cases, the POV's differ; say MMY vs Eckart Tolle.



 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Comment from post:--But Shakti comes from the teacher, igniting 
the student's Shakti.
 
 HR: Again, the central issue is that the fallacy is that a me 
gains enlightenment. As long 
 as there is a me that is there, there is further to go. Cognitions 
belong to those having 
 them, absolute IS all there is in Enlightenmenet.
 
 Not unusual for people to have this glimpse, then the mind reroots. 
Then such comments 
 as I am enlightened and yes the me does return, there is an ego, 
then they can be 
 forgiven. Well, just because this is the experience where the mind 
rerooted, it is not the 
 experience for those enlightened. For those with this rerooting of 
the mind, there is more 
 to go. If one is one's one guru, has the inner Guru as the guide, ( 
weather as form or 
 absolute concept), and one thinks they have arrived, it is sad 
because there is more to go 
 but they are not going to hear one word of that.
 
 The scriptures such as the one I posted, Ramana Maharishi and all 
the great sages of the 
 past and now explain from their own existence that this is the 
case, there is no me and 
 there never was. The me is ego and it can not exist in 
enlightenment- it is either one or 
 the other.
 
 These are the general points from my Guru, and the other two 
recently enlightened echo 
 the same independant of one another. 
 
 I can only say that I have had the dharshan of MMY, Mother Meera 
and MY Guru. In 
 addition, I have had shatipat with my Guru, as well as taking it 
from a healer and also from 
 a deeksha giver with kalki- so I have all this to compare with.
 
 In my case, it is the most significant with where I am now, it has 
awakened the kundalini, 
 and the on going guidance ensures that things are in balance and 
progress is taking place.  
 I notice great progress with about 10 fellow sadakas, it is very 
impressive.
 
 The reason that Kundalini is finished in enlightenment, and the 
reason shakti does not 
 come from an enlightened teacher is there is no persona there, Guru 
is only consciuous
 
 Hridaya Puri





[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-19 Thread purushaz
---Thanks, MMY born in 1918.  Charlie Lutes, 1913, Scorpio; Jerry 
Jarvis, June 30th, 1932 - I'm not sure where, but possibly in 
Illinois.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In 
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of BillyG.
 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:47 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING 
GURU
 
  
 
 Hey Rick-FYI, that would make MMY 106 years old today, look at the 
dates..
 
 In 1981, he was 64, not 68 as the article states. If he had been 68 
then, he
 would have been 94 now, not 90, as he is. Not sure how you came up 
with 106.





[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-19 Thread purushaz
--Richard, nitpicking the details won't change the overall 
conclusion. MMY has some chinks in his armor, and he's by no 
means impeccable in the Castaneda-ian sense.  Who are some 
impeccable Gurus?
1. Guru Dev
2. Ramana Maharshi
3. Namkhai Chogyal Rinpoche
4. Sri Aurobindo
5. Possibly SSRS
6. Ammachi, and the various Divine Mothers; such as Karunamayi.  I 
don't see anything wrong with counting the numbers of people Amma 
hugs.
7. Various Sages of the past: Ramakrishna, Sakyamuni Buddha and 
countless Sages of Tibet and India.
8. Jesus, definitely!.

We can construct a very lengthy list of impeccable Gurus, but I 
wouldn't put MMY on it.  Nevertheless, the technique of TM 
is uuu.! 


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richard J. Williams wrote:
   So, she is saying that MMY was celibate up to
   the age of 68, then, for one year he wasn't 
   celibate, then from 1969 till today he was 
   celibate. So, he must have had sexual relations
   with females for a year, yet neither Ms Pittman
   nor Nandi Keshore, Magic Alex, John, Paul, George, 
   Ringo, Mike, Donovan or any skin boy or personal 
   secretary, such as Tom Anderson, ever saw him 
   actually doing it, even with the door wide open 
   and with thousands of students passing by on a 
   daily basis for over fifty years. And that the 
   Indian press never suspected a thing.
   
   Now that is impressive for a 106 year old man!
  
 Billy wrote: 
  When 'the reporter stated' the below comment he 
  was refering to MMY 'in 1981' (the date of the 
  article) though it's a little confusing because 
  it is in italic type print in the newspaper 
  article. He should have said the 'now' 68 year 
  old MMY...at any rate the rest of your comment 
  checks out!
  
 So, Billy, Mia got the MMY down into a dark 
 cave underneath his house and tried to wrestle 
 him down to the floor for a quick one. Then she 
 writes a book, Not Fade Away, describing her 
 relations with Frank Sinatra and Woody Allen, 
 but in it she writes that MMY tried to give 
 her a hairy bear hug. And Cynthia Lennon 
 writes a book, Twist of Lennon, in which she 
 totally discredits Magic Alex and John Lennon. 
 And Paul McCartney says the rumors are bollocks.
 
 Now we have Linda expecting us to believe that 
 MMY got her into bed on numerous occasions. And 
 this is the extent of the published evidence that 
 MMY had sexual relations with any females! And 
 not a single word from any of the eight main 
 Indian media outlets in over fifty years. And 
 not a single eye-witness who is credible. And 
 not a single person has ever cross-examined MMY.
 
 But my questions is, why on earth would MMY 
 need to have sex with Linda when he had Ms 
 Pittman? And why on earth would he need a 
 personal secretary when he had Nandi Keshore? 
 And why would he need a skin boy when he had 
 Satyanand? 
 
 Ned Wynn spent all of what, about five minutes 
 in a one-on-one encounter with MMY in Italy 
 and Ned carried MMY's antelope skin back to 
 the house for all of about one minute. I'd 
 probably guess that most people responding 
 here probably never got more than within 
 fifteen feet of the MMY in their entire life. 
 And I'm beginning to think that not a single 
 respondent on this forum has been inside a MMY 
 Golden Dome in years. Go figure.





[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-19 Thread purushaz
--Thanks, Richard, as always.  Qntmpkt is my e mail name, not my real 
name, which I prefer to keep anonymous.  To summarize:  Jerry Jarvis 
initiated me into TM in July, 1967.  I worked at SIMS in L.A. as a 
paid employee from 1970 through 1973 (where Jerry worked also, being 
Chairman of SIMS).; and I became acquainted with MMY's barber who 
also worked there, whose name has already been mentioned.  The barber 
was well known on the West Coast.
 You are indeed correct.  This is 2nd hand information since I was 
not a witness to MMY's philandering.  The barber was; and this type 
of evidence (I'm in law); can be used in court proceedings although 
the weight of such evidence is obviously downgraded from first-hand 
eyewitness accounts.
 When coming to your own conclusion, collect as much evidence as 
possible and then make your decision.
 Again, if you have any doubts that MMY's barber worked at SIMS, feel 
free to contact Jerry Jarvis at PO Box 4052, Malibu, CA 90264.
Sincerely, and JGD, qntmpkt 

In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 qntmpkt wrote:
  The Barber saw MMY having sex.
 
 It has NOT been established that a Barber saw 
 MMY having sex. All we have established is that 
 you made the claim that a barber once told you 
 such-and-such. Do you have any proof other than 
 just plain hearsay that MMY was having sex? 
 
 Has the MMY been cross-examined? I think not. 
 
  The barber told me in 1973. 
 
 The barber story is now three times removed from 
 the actual purported event. Why should I even 
 believe that a barber once told you anything except 
 that your hair was dirty? 
 
 Never heard of a qntmpkt at TTC. You're not listed
 on the approved TMer list at the TM Center at Fairfield.
 Never heard of a qntmpkt Minister or Governor in 
 the TMO either. Have you Billy? Who is this guy that
 hangs out with barber rumor-mongers?
 
  (went over this 12 times)...if you can't 
  accept the truth, you have some type of blockage.
 
 The truth is that the barber was probably lying 
 and you've apparently accepted his word for it, 
 now you have a blockage to using plain logic. 
 
 Now who would you believe:
 
 A very large group of people, all standing on the 
 corner, who all said that they never saw a big 
 blue bus go by.
 
 Or, a nameless barber, standing on the same street 
 corner, who said that a big blue bus just drove by.
  
 Billy wrote:
The 'article' is in error as you mentioned, 
*because* she said the affair started in 
1969 at the (reported) age of MMY at 68 
years old.
   
 Richard J. Williams wrote:
   So, she is saying that MMY was celibate up to
   the age of 68, then, for one year he wasn't 
   celibate, then from 1969 till today he was 
   celibate. So, he must have had sexual relations
   with females for a year, yet neither Ms Pittman
   nor Nandi Keshore, Magic Alex, John, Paul, George, 
   Ringo, Mike, Donovan or any skin boy or personal 
   secretary, such as Tom Anderson, ever saw him 
   actually doing it, even with the door wide open 
   and with thousands of students passing by on a 
   daily basis for over fifty years. And that the 
   Indian press never suspected a thing.
   
   Now that is impressive for a 106 year old man!
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-19 Thread purushaz
---
Richard, you're beginning to make a fool out of yourself.
 Let me explain. The fact that MMY was into sex doesn't impact my 
practice of TM one bit.  MMY is also one of my Gurus - that means I'm 
personally devoted to him as a door into the Absolute, but if 
there's some flakes on the door paint, who cares?  Pass THROUGH the 
door, don't stop on the way through and nitpick on the dimensions of 
the door.
 He's one of my Gurus since I regularly play a video of MMY along 
with 15 Pundits doing the traditional puja followed by a very long 
puja to Mahakali.  Jerry Jarvis sent me the video, and I sincerely 
appreciate it it (along with TM) is another tool needed to vanquish 
false identification.
 My foremost Guru however, is Ramana Maharshi, followed by Hsuan Hua, 
a Pure Land Buddhist whom I used to sit at the feet of and eat lunch 
with at the same table on occasion.  (he ate only one meal per day).
 In the latest issue of WIE, Tom Huston has an excellent article 
called Everyday Advaita in which he critiques an executive coach, 
Robert Rabbin.  Huston states, Delving into the fall from grace of 
Advaita gurus Eli Jaxon-Bear, 60, and his wife, Gangaji, 65 -- who, 
last Oct., went public with an admission that Eli had engaged in a 3 
year affir with a student half his age - Rabbin held nothing back in 
his assault on their spiritual philosophy.
 That is, Rabbin is assaulting the Neo-Advaitin position that one 
can't be an ordinary person in the true sense - engaging in 
wholesale pursuits - and still be considered to be a Neo-Advaitin; 
since such persons (refer to Vaj's excellent post) are supposed to 
act in a certain way.
 Huston states, Rabbin is pointing to what numerous contemporary 
spiritual teachers believe to be the cutting edge of mystical 
spirituality--namely, learning to integrate our deepest realizations 
of transcendent Being with our ordinary, everyday, fully human lifes. 
And how do they propose we do that?  Simple: by accepting ourselves, 
warts and all, exactly as we are. [end quote], WIE, April-June, 
2007, page 49.
 My advice, accept MMY, (any another Gurus, as they are in the 
relative sense - warts an all. Don't get into truthiness...what you 
WANT to be true or impose on such Gurus, with all of their warts, an 
artificial code of moral behavior of your own construction.
 Should anybody find some dirt on Ramana Maharshi or Namkhai Norbu 
Rinpoche (another one of my teachers), fine; show me the facts, 
circumstantial or otherwise, and I will plug that information into my 
data bank.
  back to Huston's article, p. 49: Relating this back to the Eli 
Jaxon-Bear affair, Rabbin writes: I don't think Eli is flawed, and I 
don't think he should stop teaching.  In fact, I believe only now is 
he qualified to teach, now that Toto has shown us the man behind the 
curtainEli's humanity is not the flaw; the flaw is a teaching 
that forces us to live in shadows and carry secrets.
 But then Huston faults Rabbin for going too far into the relative 
spectrum; and then goes into a brief discussion consistent with 
Andrew Cohen's overall quest to understand the true nature of 
evolutionary Enlightenement.  Huston says And call me idealistic, 
but when I think of aspiring toward spiritual Enlightenment, a state 
of profound and perpetual transformation is honestly the only thing I 
have in mind..
  In the spirit of Huston's article, one should look for signs of 
evolutionary transformation in Gurus, Movements, religions, and 
cultures. Is there an openness and transparancy about the facts, or 
is there a veil of secrecy and censorship?
 Thanks again!  


In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 purushaz wrote:
  To summarize: Jerry Jarvis initiated me into TM in 
  July, 1967...
 
 Look, whoever you are - just post some PROOF or shut 
 your pie hole and stop the nit-picking. I read Mia's 
 book 'Not Fade Away' and she says nothing about standing 
 in no doorway in front of no barber. Read it for yourself.
 
 Billy can drive over to Jerry's house anytime he wants 
 to and talk to him - we don't need his P.O. Box. But 
 what would be the point? Jerry never said anything 
 about MMY having sex in front of no barber.  
 
 You need to get some smarts - you've probably been 
 watching too many soap operas on TV. A barber told you?
 And monkeys are flying out of your butt.
 
   qntmpkt wrote:
The Barber saw MMY having sex.
   
   It has NOT been established that a Barber saw 
   MMY having sex. All we have established is that 
   you made the claim that a barber once told you 
   such-and-such. Do you have any proof other than 
   just plain hearsay that MMY was having sex? 
   
   Has the MMY been cross-examined? I think not. 
   
The barber told me in 1973. 
   
   The barber story is now three times removed from 
   the actual purported event. Why should I even 
   believe that a barber once told you anything except 
   that your hair was dirty

[FairfieldLife] anybody want to be the new tmtrue owner?

2007-04-18 Thread purushaz
tmtrue - a Yahoo group.
First person who posts a reply to this can be the owner.  (you must be 
a member of the group). I'll transfer ownership to your name. Have fun!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Jesus love you? CAN Jesus love you?

2007-04-16 Thread purushaz
--Naomi Wolf gets religion NAOMI WOLF has found Jesus!
la times ^ | January 27, 2006 | Rosa Brooks


Posted on 01/27/2006 9:06:30 PM PST by tbird5


Wolf first made a name for herself with The Beauty Myth, a 1991 
feminist critique of feminine stereotypes. Admired by some and 
ridiculed by others, Wolf has since written on everything from 
motherhood to promiscuity. During the 2000 election campaign, she 
famously advised Al Gore to work on being an alpha male, and her 
most recent book, a folksy memoir about her father, left many 
erstwhile fans clearing their throats in embarrassment. 

Maybe that's what pushed Wolf toward Jesus. In an interview published 
last weekend in Scotland's Glasgow Sunday Herald, Wolf announced that 
she had been struggling with a midlife crisis a few years ago when 
she went into a light meditative state. That's when it happened: I 
was completely dumbfounded but I actually had this vision of … of 
Jesus. 

If that doesn't sound like the Naomi Wolf you love (or hate), Wolf 
agrees. I wasn't myself in this visual experience. I was a 13-year-
old boy sitting next to him [Jesus] and feeling feelings I'd never 
felt in my lifetime…. It was probably the most profound experience of 
my life.


(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...







- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Apr 16, 2007, at 10:18 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
  The phrase Jesus loves you is totally mainstream and doesn't 
raise
  an eyebrow anywhere.  I don't suppose that people are all 
referring to
  a mystical vision of Jesus although I'm sure some are.
 
 
   Jesus loves me! This I know,
   for the Bible tells me so.
   Little ones to him belong;
   they are weak, but he is strong.
 
 Refrain:
 Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me!
   Yes, Jesus loves me! The Bible tells me so.
 
   
 Jesus loves me! This I know,
   as he loved so long ago,
   taking children on his knee,
   saying, Let them come to me.
   (Refrain)
 
   
 Jesus loves me still today,
   walking with me on my way,
   wanting as a friend to give
   light and love to all who live.
   (Refrain)
 
 Words by:
   Anna B. Warner (st 1) and David Rutherford McGuire (sts 2, 3)
 Music by:
   William B. Bradbury
 
 Isn't that called 'magical thinking'?  I wonder how many of todays 
 Christians Jesus wouldn't be able to abide for more than a minute, 
if 
 that.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The 4 + 1 = 5 Proposal

2007-04-15 Thread purushaz
--No problem.  Just use tmtrue as another forum, no rules.  I'm 
making an effort to kick out the spammers selling stuff.
Join right now and use tmtrue as the bickering forum with 
unrestricted numbers of posts, cussing OK.
 Then use this one for the limit rule.
Sincerely,
tmtrue moderator.

- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 snip
 Well, we all know who he was referring to: you and that New 
  Jersey Broom Hilda with whom FOR TEN FUCKING YEARS you've been 
going 
  at it with.  And he has actually POINTED to the two of youse and 
 your current posting habits as PROOF that the system works!
 snip
 
 Shemp, for your own sake, do not unsubscribe again from FFL.  
You've 
 come back in an unhinged frame of mind.  And you left in relatively 
 hinged state of mind.  Let the wave settle down a bit.  This five 
post 
 thing is not that big of a deal.  After all, Kirk is dealing with 
it, 
 and if he can deal with, then anyone can.  (Well, he's sort of 
dealing 
 with it anyway) Just know you ARE loved here. We value your input, 
 even if we know we could, if we wanted, summon you anytime just by 
 mentioning Fred Lenz and levitation, as sure as the Persians could 
 summon a genie by rubbing on the bottle.
 
  Just some brotherly advice from,
 
 lurk
 
 
  
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged into one enti...

2007-04-13 Thread purushaz
--Question:  what level of credibility to you award these seers' and 
why?  Do you believe everything that channels say just because they 
claim to be channeling?  Can they predict the stock market?
  What are the special abilities of Pleidians and how do these people 
differ from ordinary people?  Are they psychic?  Are they adept in 
some special skills?
 If not, why be a Pleidian?
  Thanks. 


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 In a message dated 4/13/2007 2:50:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr 
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 FairOn Behalf Of  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:59  PM
 To: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi Fa
 Subject:  Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be 
merged 
 into one  enti...
 
  
  
  
  
  
 In a message  dated 4/13/2007 1:19:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message  
 
  
  
  
 --Who are the Pleidians and  what evidence do you have of their 
 existence? Don't live in outer  space!! 
  I don't need evidence of  their existence. I AM A PLEIADIAN 
regardless of 
 the evidence. That is why i  don't need any evidence. The 
Pleiadians are from 
 the 4th and fifth levels of  the sixth dimension. So, I am living 
on earth as a 
 Pleadian and not in outer  space. Love and Light. Lsoma 
 Just out of curiosity, and  if it doesn't exceed your quota, how do 
you know 
 that? 
 Hello Rick. How do we  know about experiences of our life. People 
can 
 ask-How do you know your  transcending? Well, it feels like I've 
gone beyond the 
 excitation of thought  and deep into a quiet space within myself. 
For those who 
 are volunteers they  are aware of it through life's experiences 
mostly. The 
 confirmation has come  from Lord Ashtar in a reading through 
Michael el Legion in 
 1986, also a  seventh dimensional master named D'Hartma in 1999 and 
currently 
 from Saint  Anthony who is also a seventh dimensional teacher 
within the last 
 year.  Saint Anthony has told me that MMY will pass over in July or 
August of 
 this  year so this should be interesting to see if that is true. 
Not 
 everything he  say's comes true when it comes to future events. 
Lord Ashtar told me as 
 he  was looking at a picture of me that those who are truly 
volunteers or ex  
 terrestrials will have some gold in the aura field and depending on 
how much  
 service they have done will show the amount of gold. He said I had 
a lot of  
 gold in my aura and that I was from the original core group of 
144,000. As  
 many of you know it really doesn't matter what labels we wear. God 
knows we  
 hear so many labels from the TMO. Governors of the Age of 
Enlightenment.  There 
 are so many people I have met along the way who don't even 
meditate  who are 
 gifted with abilities that I don't have. But I do care so much 
that  humanity 
 will want to go the distance in this lifetime to create world  
peace. Maharishi 
 has been so helpful to all of us in having some  understanding of 
the nature 
 of higher states of cons. The lack of motivation  for humans to 
want world 
 peace and the extreme amount of loneliness even  while in 
relationships that I 
 feel has brought me to the conclusion that I  miss my spiritual 
family from the 
 sixth dimension. As Saint Anthony has told  me  Why you chose to 
come back to 
 earth is beyond me. My reply, I can't  give up on the hundreds of 
lifetimes 
 that I have invested in wanting to  create some joy here. I feel 
very strongly 
 that the next few years everyone  will have an intimate contact 
with other 
 races from above and will help us  to get to the next step in the 
divine plan. 
 But for now we can only keep on  doing our best to pray, meditate, 
chant and 
 keep asking for blessings from  above. We can also help our 
brothers and sisters 
 along the way with little  things like a smile, opening the door at 
the post 
 office for someone who has  their hands full, take a friend out for 
lunch 
 periodically, offer council to  someone who is having a rough time, 
etc. It is the 
 little things that count  most. The labels like Avatar, Governor, 
Volunteer 
 are insignificant compared  to the absolute. Love and Light. Lsoma. 
I think that 
 meets my quota for the  day. Thanks  Rick.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged into one entity?

2007-04-12 Thread purushaz
Not my ideathey already are, 1. TM as a Movement, using (as a 
remnant of Hinduism) the Holy Tradition puja; but not as a strong 
religious ideology.  The SBAL and BG would be sufficient adjuncts.
In the context of this possible fusion into one Great Tradition 
(Adi Da's term - Wilber has a similar term for the whole unified body 
of Monist Sadhanas which form an integral part of Buddhism and 
Saivite Hinduism); TM could easily be practiced by Buddhists without 
compromising their philosophical orientation.

 2. Next, Advaita, i.e. Neo-Advaita since (1.) emerged from the 
Advaita Vedanta of Shankara and is thus Advaita; but in recent 
decades, dozens of self-styled teachers and spontaneously Awakened 
persons have come out of the wood work; many being oriented to Ramana 
Maharshi: if not outright devotees of R.M. then at least influenced 
by him, for example: Eckhart Tolle. 
 If one could venture to compare the total Power of this influential 
group, vis a vis the remnant of the TM Movement; well...it's safe 
to say that the TMO is a walking corpse, not knowing it's already a 
zombie, half-way in the grave. But no matter. Though as a Movement TM 
will perhaps fizzle out in our lifetimes; countless people will be 
practicing it in a forthcoming true Age of Enlightenment.  This 
will undoubtedly include hordes of Buddhists.

3. Third, as mentioned above, Buddhism can easily adopt TM as a 
technique (and I predict, will do so on a wholesale basis when 
circumstances are right).
 
Thus, the 3 Movements mentioned above can be merged into one 
morphogenetic field, with a complementary mix of diverse energies; 
all oriented toward the Monist philosophical viewpoint, but adding 
some additional evolutionary benefits from Buddhism - namely, the 
Rainbow Light Body. This can be thought of as the ultimate goal of 
our biological evolution.

Using Venn diagrams (as another contributor suggested), we have 3 
circles which overlap: Circles A, B, and C.  Thus, A intersects B 
intersects C.  We can map prime numbers on each circle, say 2, 3, and 
5..  The intersecting area = the product of any of the primes.

Of course, the central area = the full unification of all 3 
Traditions: 2 * 3 * 5 = 30.

How about partial unifications: Say TM + Buddhism.  Sure!! This will 
occur some day, I predict.  Not real soon, some day in the future.
The possibilities with 3 entities, taken 2 at a time are:
Say TM = 2, Advaita = 3 and Buddhism = 5:
1.  TM + Advaita = 2 * 3 = 6
2.  TM + Buddhism = 2 * 5 = 10
3.  Advaita + Buddhism = 3 * 5 = 15.

Hope you will be there for the true Age of Enlightenment. We are 
definitely not in it now, contrary to what MMY would have us 
believe.  There's a lot more work to do.

To conclude, TM can be merged with Advaita and Buddhism to form one 
larger hologram having a certain degree of diversity to make things 
spicey.  But essentially, this will become the Great Tradition Adi 
Da and Wilber talk about under the guise of various labels.  The 
essential ingredient is non-dualism, common to the 3 traditions which 
are artificially separate at this time.  
In decades to come, the 3 entities will fuse, and over the centuries, 
will gradually displace the dualist Monotheistic religions.  Bravo! 
Can't wait.



[FairfieldLife] Re: forwarded comments about the pundits,also elements and states of consciousness

2007-03-26 Thread purushaz
--Everything is already Absolute Being, so there's no more Being. 
Must refer to a type of Rainbow Light Body, enabling the physical 
body to translate into pure Light at or near death.  (supposedly what 
happened with Chaitanya, the inventor of the Hare Krishna Movement).


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
 at_man_and_brahman@ wrote:
 
  Are these points attributed to Maharishi?
  
 
 *
 
 Looks authentic -- but would certainly be the first time I have 
ever 
 heard of the 8th and 9th states of consciousness delineated by the 
 TMO:
 
 9. State: Krishna Consciousness. Pure consciousness does not only 
now
 prevail in
 the body, but it has transformed every last trace of the eight
 elements in the
 body into absolute Being. Maharishi:  This is the body made of
 absolute Being.
 Starting with the all-knowingness of Brahman Consciousness we now 
 also add
 physical omnipresence and omnipotence, however, there is no being 
that
 could
 ever be completely equal to God. Even in Krishna Consciousness, on 
the
 absolute
 pinnacle of any developmental possibility, one is still an 
individual,
 who can
 think only one thought at a time (although with maximum speed). 
Only
 God alone
 can think infinitely many thoughts at a time, however, we human
 individuals can
 transcend (in the end) even our individual personality and in
 Mahasamadhi become
 one with God, as Guru Dev before us has done. Then we are again
 completely one
 with the source of all beings. - 5200 years ago in Vrindavan, in His
 terrestrial
 incarnation, as the ninth avatar,
 Krishna had an absolute body and Krishna Consciousness and was 
revered
 as the
 embodiment of transcendence and as the incarnation of Vishnu's
 transcendental
 aspect -
 
 Finally a word on the heavenly body (which we humans also can attain
 in the 8th
 state, before the second level of Brahman Consciousness). The 
devas
 under
 Indra, the king of the Gods, have a heavenly body which is without
 boundaries,
 so that they can watch over and administer their own law of nature
 everywhere in
 the universe simultaneously. In this body the element Akasha becomes
 prevalent,
 and the four low elements: earth, water, fire and air are completely
 refined and
 only  available in seed form... this last trace of the relative 
 world is
 necessary so that the devas are able to be active in the world.
 Infinite harmony
 and pure Sattwa are prevalent in them, but Moksha, spiritual 
 liberation or
 complete enlightenment is not available for the devas. They 
sometimes
 therefore
 accept a human birth in order to disseminate the highest knowledge 
 (as did
 Bhishma, the Eights of the Vasu Devas, the son of Ganga Devi, or 
the 
 five
 Pandawas: Yudhishthira, Arjuna, Bhima, Nakula and
 Sahadeva, each of whom, in ancient times, all already reined once as
 Indra over
 the devas).





[FairfieldLife] Re: NY Times Article on God and Belief

2007-03-06 Thread purushaz
---Thanks, this type of environment (vaguely similar to an earthlike 
habitat, but with differences; would be a Locale I location in Robert 
A. Monroe's Journeys Out of the Body; as opposed to a Locale II 
(remarkably different than the earth); or higher: the realm of pure 
Light and Sound.


FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote:
 
  --
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/magazine/04evolution.t.html
  
  Dreams, too, have a way of confirming belief in the afterlife, 
with 
  dead relatives appearing in dreams as if from beyond the grave, 
  seemingly very much alive.
  
  --- ---
 
 I had a 'couldn't tell the difference from reality' type of dream 
with 
 my deceased brother many years ago that convinced me without a 
doubt 
 that he was still alive, somewhere else. Looked almost like planet 
 earth, but not quite. Didn't look at all 'heavenly' either- more 
like 
 rural Oklahoma in the summer- very peaceful, but not at all 
celestial, 
 though there were some features that weren't earthly also.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Effort required in Buddhist Sadhana.

2007-03-04 Thread purushaz
---Vaj, you're right! (Hindusism IS different than Buddhism)  Norbu 
Rinpoche's teachings are ineffective, since they operate only in the 
25% highest level of the subtle planes.  TM operates on all levels, 
and the Transcendent.
  Your statement that physical purification is unimportant is a 
feeble attempt to obfuscate the issues; out of jealously in regard to 
MMY's brilliant, pioneering ideas in the topic of stress release, and 
due to the fact that Norbu's techniques are solely subtle body 
techniques, having little impact on the physical.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 4, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
 
  Maybe so, but both Barry and Vaj seem to be believers in the
  enlightenment tradition, except they got a little mixed up when 
they
  adopted Buddhism, not realizing that the practice advocated by 
Mahesh
  IS pure Buddhist Yoga.
 
 
 Actually that is incorrect as TM comes from known sources in Hindu  
 tantra, not Buddhist tantra. I can't speak for Barry but I am well  
 aware of the similarities and, importantly, the differences 
between  
 the two and so therefore would not as easily mistake one for the 
other.
 
 Beware of those who do and then go posting it on the internet as 
fact.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Danger of Samadhi

2007-02-26 Thread purushaz
---Not necessarily.  There's some evidence that toward the end of the 
Mayan Civilization, there was some cannibalism.


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ 
wrote:
 snip
  Bizarre! Post what could've been an interesting 
discussion 
 on 
  the mechanics of samadhi, written by someone they don't 
 know, 
  and it automatically becomes an attack on TM! As I've 
said 
  here before: if it weren't so sad, it would almost be 
funny.
  
  I'm almost waiting to find a Jack Chick-style tract in my 
 mail 
  box.
 

 Oh, are Jack Chick tracts where you learned the
 technique of quoting criticisms and then pretending
 you weren't the one doing the criticizing?

I'm not quite sure what 'Jack Chick tracts' are myself,
but I'm pretty sure I've seen the technique you describe
above. It looks a lot like the following, doesn't it?
   
   Nope.  Nowhere (as you know) did I attempt to
   dissociate myself from the article's criticisms
   of Gibson's bigotry.  To the contrary, in fact
   (as my thread title and comments make quite plain).
  
  You're not implying that you *were* adding your
  own critical commentary about a film you'd never
  seen, are you?
 
 Nope, as you know.
 
  And after denying so vociferously
  here that you'd ever done any such thing?
 
 Never denied anything I actually *did*, as
 you know, only what you falsely claimed I
 had done.
 
   Barry, you're going to choke to death on your feet
   if you're not careful.
  
  As are you, dear...as are you.
  
  Thank you for stepping with both feet into what 
  would be, to anyone else, an obvious trap.
 
 Nope, they're your feet, and the trap they're
 in is the one you planned but, of course, failed
 to catch me in but didn't, because it was a lie--
 in other words, as usual, your feet have become
 trapped by your very own mouth.
 
 (And let's remember, this is after Barry insisted
 vigorously that the published criticisms of the
 film's historical inaccuracies were *exactly the
 reverse* of what they actually were.  Whether this
 was yet another attempt to perpetrate a lie or just
 Barry's amazingly self-destructive stupidity is
 hard to say; we see so much of both here.)
 
 
 
  
  
[ Thread title, embedded commentary in brackets, and final
commentary at the end by the thread's author. Everything 
else is quoted criticism. ]


Mel Gibson, Christian bigot (title by Judy Stein)

From Salon.com:

Maya in the Thunderdome

By Marcello A. Canuto

Dec. 15, 2006 | As a scholar of the Maya civilization, I was 
 anxious
to see Mel Gibson's portrayal of the Maya in Apocalypto. Of 
   course,
I realize the movie is not a documentary and was mindful of 
the
director's artistic license. I was happy to see that Gibson 
got 
 some
details right, like personal adornment, tools and body 
 decoration.
Although the main actors are native North Americans, I applaud
Gibson's use of some Maya actors, as well as his decision to 
 have 
   the
characters speak in a native Maya language, Yukatek, still 
 heard in
Mexico. While these are brave and ambitious choices, they 
also 
 imply
that Apocalypto is a sincere depiction of Maya society. In 
 fact,
the movie is not an accurate portrayal of the Maya at all; 
 rather, 
   it
is a reflection of Gibson's own feverish imagination

...The movie focuses on Maya society on the eve of Spanish 
 contact 
   in
the 16th century. Yet the Maya city portrayed in the movie, 
 central
to its plot, dates roughly to the 9th century. This is akin to
telling a story about English pilgrims founding the 
 Massachusetts 
   Bay
Colony, and showing them living in longhouses described 
   in Beowulf.
In fact, Gibson incorporates Maya images from as far back as 
 300 
   B.C.
Throughout the movie, these anachronisms make Maya 
civilization 
 seem
timeless, and undermine the idea that the Maya could and did 
 respond
to change

Whatever the causes, the collapse [of Mayan civilization] was
primarily of a system of governance, not a self-immolating 
 culture.
The movie misses this important distinction by creating a 
 spurious
contrast between a rural idyll and an urban miasma of excess 
and
violence. The truth is that within several generations of the 
   Classic
Maya collapse, other regal cities with different forms of 
 government
would flourish in other parts of the Maya area. Over several
millennia, the Maya underwent many 

[FairfieldLife] Douglas Hofstadter on the Soul

2007-02-25 Thread purushaz


I believe that the soul is an abstract pattern, and we can therefore
internalize in our brain the souls of other people.

--Douglas Hofstadter in Kevin Kelly's interview,
 Me, My Soul, and I, WIRED, March 2007

--- ---




[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi - Invincible America Assembly Finer Experiences

2006-12-31 Thread purushaz
--Thanks, as you pointed out before (re: Vaj's dissing MMY) it 
appears to be a case of jealously.  His own Guru, Chogyal Norbu 
Rinpche, is undoubtedly Enlightened according to all/any standards; 
but that doesn't make him a good teacher.  He only has a few hundred 
disciples and no single technique of his can hold a candle to TM.
Also, his retreats cost $$$.  I only paid $35. for TM, and can take 
it anywhere, even to other planets when the time comes. 


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
  
   On Dec 30, 2006, at 6:04 PM, bob_brigante wrote:
   
In your post
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126763
I found it interesting that Maharishi repeated several times 
 that
people should only be meditating 3-4 hours. I wonder if this 
message got through to Bevan et al who are requiring 
 invincibility
course participants to do 8 hours:
   
   He probably contradicts himself quite often. 
  
  Always has. So do the most enlightened teachers I've
  encountered on the planet. The constant contradiction
  is not a problem IMO; the tendency for people to want
  not to *deal* with the contradiction and say that one
  version is the correct version is where the problem
  lies. :-)
  
   The recent posts attributed to him seem to indicate some 
   senility. 
  
  I wouldn't say senility. I have seen no real sign of 
  the more common forms of senility. But I *am* getting 
  really tired of the kind of echolalia he indulges in 
  (repeating words that don't need to be repeated). That's 
  certainly becoming more pronounced lately. 
  
   So he's probably  
   said both 3-4 and 8 if you go back in the transcripts.
   
   What's disturbing to me is his emphasis on subtle meditative 
   moods and getting the students to wallow in them. 
  
  Bingo.
  
  The gist of this latest talk seems to be, These are the
  experiences I want to hear. Don't bother to get up to
  the microphone if you don't have one of these type of
  experiences to relate. And, by the way, what you *really*
  want to do more than anything else on this course is to 
  get yourself on the LIST of people who are *having* the 
  type of experiences I want to hear about.
  
  Well duh...what do you think people are going to be 
  falling all over themselves to report from now on?
  
  It *surprised* me to see MMY pandering to the inherent 
  tendency in spiritual devotees to *moodmake* the type
  of experiences they have been *told* are expected of
  them. It's such a contrast to Rama and some of the other
  teachers I've worked with -- in the cases where they 
  asked what people's experiences were, they really wanted
  to *know* what people's experiences were. There was NEVER
  any suggestion of what a good experience was, or what
  type of experience was expected or better than another.
  I guess I got used to that type of *non*-programming in
  such talk about your experiences sessions, and was a
  little shocked to read this latest rap, in which it is
  pretty clear that if you want to be considered happening
  on this course, and on the LIST, you should stand up and 
  say that you are having the expected experiences, or 
  (given the before-mentioned tendency of devotees to give 
  the teacher whatever he asks for), pretend to be having 
  such experiences.
  
   Why would you want to encourage such nonsense? Since there's 
   no spiritual benefit, one has to assume it's to raise more 
money.
  
  I would not go so far. I think that a much simpler, and
  kinder, explanation is that these are the types of exper-
  iences that Maharishi assumes he *should* be hearing by
  now, given all his time working with these people. There-
  fore he *wants* to hear them, so he's telling people *what*
  he wants to hear, so that they'll *say* what he wants to
  hear. 
  
  To be open to all possibilities, it is certainly possible 
  that some of the people who report such experiences after 
  hearing what kind of experiences they are *supposed* to be 
  having are doing so in good faith, and reporting their real
  experiences. But the fact that they *have* been told what
  to report taints the reports themselves. if you've been 
  around the spiritual block a few times and are aware of how 
  devotees tend to tell the teacher what the teacher wants to 
  hear, the fact that he told everyone in no uncertain terms 
  what he wanted to hear doesn't really suggest that such 
  reports are going to be free of moodmaking.
 
 There are specific experiences associated with the refinement of 
 consciousness, cognitive milestones as consciousness is refined. 
 Maharishi has heard of people bringing up these experiences and now 
 wants to hear about more of them, so that he can gauge what is 
 occurring on the course. 
 
 This is not some mood-making exercise. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual Request, Public Defender wants assistance

2006-10-28 Thread purushaz
---Thanks, I work for a prosecutor in California.  What you should be 
doing is chanting the Gayatri mantra.  This will help you win in your 
court battles, giving you an extra 20% edge.




 Here is an odd request, but perhaps a few people will be interested.
 
 I have a pretty big trial coming up in a couple of weeks (I work as 
a
 Public Defender in California, and the case against my client 
involves
 the charge of attempted murder where the alleged victim is a cop) 
and
 I'd like to check with an outside, uninvolved panel of people who
 would be willing to give me their reaction(s) to themes and 
strategies
 I'm working with.
 
 It would be an outside forum, off FFL.  So if you're willing to
 participate, please contact me directly in the next couple of days
 using the Subject line Panel.  Without compromising any
 confidentiality issues, of course, I would outline the facts of the
 case, crimes charged, elements of those crimes, possible defenses, 
and
 most importantly, my contemplated trial theme.  I'm looking for
 feedback on that -- would it address your concerns as a juror, 
etc. --
 that sort of thing.  Basically, you'd be part of an unpaid jury 
focus
 group.  
 
 If you're interested, please email and I'll set up a mailgroup and
 give you the rundown.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Marek






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[FairfieldLife] Hitler confronts the Neo-Advaitins

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
--- 

--- A satirical expose of the Neo-Advaitins ( Wayne Liquorman, Esther 
 Veltheim, Tony Parsons, Gangaji, Francis Lucile, and Isaac 
Shapiro); 
 confronted by WIE editor Stacey.
 
 On page 7, Hitler gets to have a shot at the Neo-Advaitins.
 http://www.wie.org/j22/stacey.asp?page=7

Stacey Heartspring Encounters the Postmodern Craze of Neo-Advaita

A Truly Imaginary Spiritual Satire
 
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8


STACEY: Whoa, just wait a minute. Of course it has to do with the 
heart. I mean, what about when people suffer? What about all those 
poor people in the World Trade Center? And, for that matter, what 
about my Great Uncle Mischa? Even though I've never told anyone his 
story, he's often on my mind. You see, one day dear Aunt Beryl took 
me aside and confided in me: Stacey, you should know what happened 
to our family during World War II, so I'll tell you. When the Nazis 
invaded Romania, which is where some of your Jewish ancestors were 
from, they first looked for the Jewish doctors and teachers in the 
small villages. And they came upon your Great Uncle Mischa, who was a 
teacher and was in the middle of teaching his young class. And they 
marched him out of the school at gunpoint, with his class of students 
following him. And right in front of his students, in the school 
yard, they forced him to dig a large ditch, and then in front of all 
his students, they buried him alive. And that was how the Nazis 
destroyed the Jews, and it worked. 

(Of course it worked. . .!!!) 

STACEY: Who's there? Who said that!? Adolf Hitler?!! Oh my God!! 

HITLER: Stacey, since you were talking about God's will and the 
extermination of the Jews, nothing could stop me. I had to respond. 
You see, I received a divine mandate while I was recovering from a 
gas attack during the first World War. And as I lay there, it came 
over me that I would liberate the German people and make Germany 
great. . . . 

[And I was] animated with an inexorable resolve to seize the Evil 
[the Jews] by the roots and to exterminate it root and branch. To 
attain our aim, [I knew] we should stop at nothing, even if we must 
join forces with the Devil. 

STACEY: And I heard that the people who participated in this 
extermination wanted to commit these unspeakable acts. Through their 
own free will. 

TONY: Stacey, there is no question of there being free will, simply 
because there is no one there in the first place who can have a will 
or make a choice. 

HITLER: But, I could not have done it without so many willing 
participants. And here with me is one of my commanders, Eduard 
Strauch, who will testify to that. 

STRAUCH: Heil Hitler! No one should ever doubt the eagerness of the 
men who served under you. Even if the killing was hard and 
unpleasant . . . we [were] convinced that someone must carry out 
these tasks. I can state with pride that my men [were] proud to act 
out of conviction and fidelity to their Führer. 

TONY: Everything that happened . . . could not have been any other 
way. 

ESTHER: And while the spontaneous, uninhibited, un-premeditated 
action is happening there is peace. . . . While you are acting with 
full focus and putting all your energy into it, minus judgments, 
there is peace. You see, peace is there when you experience what is 
as it is fully. 

STACEY: Peace? What do you mean peace? Do you think my Uncle Mischa, 
or his students, or his family, or any of the families of the World 
Trade Center victims experienced peace on those fateful days? And 
what about the fact that Hitler, and everyone who committed these 
heinous acts, had personal responsibility? 

TONY: Don't worry, Stacey. [Hitler], like everyone else, played out 
the character that consciousness chose, and death is simply a return 
to the source from where the character appeared. The beloved plays 
every part in the play. . . . From the point of view of the separate 
self, everything . . . seems to be a battle ensuing between good and 
evil. . . . Once awakening happens, it is seen that there is no such 
thing as right or wrong. 

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[FairfieldLife] Hagelin claims Super Radiance effect on stock market.

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
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MONDAY, AUGUST 21, 2006
Tune In, Turn On, Outperform?
Edited by ROBIN GOLDWYN BLUMENTHAL

THERE MAY NOT BE A MATHEMATICAL WAY to beat the market, but early 
returns of an intriguing new study show another way could be 
possible -- better returns through active consciousness-raising.

It all relates to the effect produced when a critical mass of people 
gets together to practice advanced Transcendental Meditation, 
producing an underlying field of pure consciousness, known as 
the Maharishi Effect, after the physicist who introduced TM in the 
U.S. nearly 50 years ago.

It so happens such a group has been gathering once again in the 
Fairfield, Iowa, home of Maharishi University of Management, to deal 
with a threat to world peace. But the positive vibes extend to other 
aspects of society, including the financial markets.

We didn't come together to boost the markets, but it's a nice side 
effect, says John Hagelin, a physicist who directs the Institute of 
Science, Technology and Public Policy at MUM. Sociologists as well 
as economists are aware that markets are an extremely nimble and 
sensitive barometer [of] the collective mood.

So far, the mass meditation seems to be having a beneficial effect on 
the market. In the weeks since the meditation began July 23, both the 
SP 500 and the Domini 400 Social Equity Index have risen on average 
0.7% per week, to say nothing of the Nasdaq, says Ken Cavanaugh, a 
professor of applied statistics at MUM who has been researching the 
meditation's market effects. That compares to a weekly decrease of an 
average of .06% going back to 2000, when Bush took office.

If you maintain that rate of increase for awhile, you're going to 
have a phenomenal effect, says Cavanaugh. And if the method does 
away with all the sellers? World peace. And then, who cares?

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[FairfieldLife] Marquis de Sade in agreement with the Neo-Advaitins on morals.

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
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 http://www.wie.org/j22/stacey.asp?page=6
 
 
 Stacey Heartspring Encounters the Postmodern Craze of Neo-Advaita
 
 A Truly Imaginary Spiritual Satire
  
 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8
 
 
 ESTHER: And, anyway, in certain areas of the world a very different 
 value is placed on human life. Very different laws exist in 
 different areas of the world. What one culture sees as bad, another 
 finds quite acceptable. You may say they are wrong, but who made 
you 
 the morals police? . . . The actions themselves aren't the problem. 
 It's the belief systems that accompany actions that are the 
problem. 
 
 (. . . Esther, that is music to my ears! After all, it is all 
 relative, a matter of perception, a point of view.) 
 
 STACEY: Who's that?! The Marquis de Sade, the notorious and 
 scandalous French author?! Well, for obvious reasons, you most 
 certainly were not invited. But since you made the trip all the way 
 from the eighteenth century, what have you got to add? 
 
 MARQUIS DE SADE: Stacey, you're already outnumbered. And, I'm 
sorry, 
 but I'm going to add insult to injury. I agree with Esther. Similar 
 to the concepts of virtue and vice, [justice and injustice] are 
 purely local and geographical; that which is vicious in Paris turns 
 up, as we know, a virtue in Peking . . . that which is just in 
 Isfahan they call unjust in Copenhagen. . . . Justice has no real 
 existence . . . . So let us abandon our belief in this fiction, it 
no 
 more exists than does the God of whom fools believe it the image: 
 there is no God in this world, neither is there virtue, neither is 
 there justice; there is nothing good, useful, or necessary but our 
 passions. . . . [And] the idea of God is the sole wrong for which I 
 cannot forgive mankind. . . . 
 
 ESTHER: The misinterpretations [of God] that have been given to the 
 various world religions have come about because man wanted to have 
a 
 reason for everything. If you ask me, the religions that teach you 
 that God created you sinful, so that He can save you depict a 
pretty 
 sadistic God. 
 
 DE SADE: Ah, sadism . . . well, we are no guiltier for following 
the 
 primitive impulses that govern us than is the Nile for her floods 
or 
 the sea for her waves. . . . All universal moral principles are 
idle 
 fantasies. 
 
 ESTHER: Right, and to understand this is to realize that guilt is 
 just a fanciful notion and that it has absolutely no validity. 
 
 STACEY: No guilt? No moral principles? But, what about all the 
awful 
 events in the world? I mean, just look at what happened to all 
those 
 people in the World Trade Center— 
 
 WAYNE: Stacey, I recently explained in a workshop that from the 
point 
 of view of the bacteria that got to feed on those bodies, it 
 certainly wasn't a tragedy, so who are we to judge what's right or 
 wrong? 
 
 STACEY: What?!! I mean, all those innocent people! It was an 
 unspeakable act, the most shocking— 
 
 TONY: Well, if you want to call it a sin, Stacey, from an advaita 
 point of view, all concepts of good or bad, original sin, karma or 
 debt of any kind are products of an unawakened mind. . . . 
 
 FRANCIS: The only sin is to take oneself for a sinner. . . . There 
is 
 no point in condemning oneself as a sinner or in trying to change 
 oneself. Sense of guilt and desire to change also reinforce the 
ego. 
 
 TONY: And, for that matter when [Christ] told people their sins 
were 
 forgiven, he was really saying to them that they had never had a 
past 
 that they could be held responsible for. They had simply been 
 characters lived through by the infinite, never having had any 
choice 
 or free will.
 
 STACEY: Tony, are you serious? You know, I'm Jewish, so no, I 
didn't 
 go to Sunday school and I'm hardly an authority, but I'll be damned 
 if Jesus ever meant anything like that! He really should have the 
 opportunity to respond to this, but I just don't have the courage 
to 
 invite Him to join us. I'm afraid of what He would do! And far from 
 being uplifted by all this, I'm starting to find it really 
 depressing. 
 
 ESTHER: Stacey, actually what is depressing is the misperception 
 that you need to care and that things need to matter. You see if 
you 
 understand that your True nature IS neutrality, caring and making 
 things matter is really missing the mark. 
 
 STACEY: But I can't not care. Aren't care and love important, you 
 know, in a human way? And for that matter, what about God? Doesn't 
 most everyone say, God is Love? 
 
 ESTHER: When it is said that God is Love, the word love signifies 
 neutrality. It has nothing to do with the opposite of hate. God is 
 just another word for neutrality, and neutrality denotes not 
helping 
 or supporting either of two opposing sides. . . . 
 
 And remember, there is no point, no purpose, and no meaning. . . . 
 You think of caring as something important because you 
misunderstand 
 caring to mean something to do with the heart. 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
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[FairfieldLife] The Stress Eraser - testimonials

2006-08-02 Thread purushaz
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(small portable biofeedback device synchronized to your breathing.  
Practice for 15 min before going to bed).

costs $300.

Testimonials:

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him?.)('samhita/impersonal')

2006-08-02 Thread purushaz
--But (discussion below regarding St. Theresa of Avila...one of over 
100 levitating Catholic Saints); the commonality among such Christian 
Saints was Jesus and Mary, not the impersonal Absolute. If 
realization of the Self were the sole requirement, then 
impersonalists would automatically be levitators; but we have not 
seen this association.  However, there is a common attribute of the 
levitating Catholic Saints: out of body projection.  In addition, 
(based on my assessment of the biographies of the Saints), few if any 
of the RC Saints seem to be E'd.  (St. John of the Cross could have 
been, judging by descriptions of various states of progressive 
awareness in his autiobiographical works).  He was another levitator 
and a contemporary friend of St. Theresa of Avila.

 My conclusion: levitation is a Siddhi which may or may not occur in 
conjunction with BC; and additional research should be undertaken 
(preferably through one's own experience); to ascertain the precise 
causations behind levitation: so that one can either keep the 
spectacle a secret or package and market it, thus getting rich.
 


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
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 wrote:
   snip
The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of
God.
   
   Not the Godhead (the Samhita of the Trinity)?
  
  
  How can samhita be impersonal?
 It seems like it would be both, personal and impersonal;
 The part of it that is universal is impersonal;
 And the part of it that is 'refracted' thru you;
 Is personal.
 So, the whole Jesus metaphor;
 Which I believe is misunderstood by the masses thru time...
 Is that the soul, or the Holy Spirit, was fully expressed thru him.
 And he demonstrated some of the abilities associated with this 
state 
 of consciousness, as Maharishi has tried to do, with the Siddhis, 
 etc. and other extraordinary powers...
 So, I'm sure, to go back to the Saint Teresa analogy;
 When she became engulfed in the energy of the Holy Spirit;
 It was enough to lift her up into the air;
 So, part of her was lifted up by it.
 And part of it was lifted up by it thru her.
 Make sense to anyone?
 Good...
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[FairfieldLife] Shree Ma on the 9-planet puja

2006-06-11 Thread purushaz
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[FairfieldLife] heavy metals implicated in autism

2006-05-31 Thread purushaz



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New Scientist, May 27, 2006, p. 21:

Urine samples from hundreds of French children have yielded evidence 
for a link between autism and exposure to heavy metals. If validated, 
the findings might mean some cases of autism could be treated with 
drugs that purge the body of heavy metals.

[Dr. Richard Lathe of Pieta Research in Edinburgh, UK, says]:

It's highly likely that heavy metals are responsible for childhood 
autistic disorders in a majority of cases.

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[FairfieldLife] the nine main Siddhis

2006-04-01 Thread purushaz
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[FairfieldLife] Typical baloney from Neo-Advaitin Ramesh Balsekar

2006-03-10 Thread purushaz
--- (non-sequiturs, circular reasoning, tautologies, evidence of raw
greed...all comes with the territory of the Neo-Advaitins!!).

--- 

 http://www.inner-quest.org/Real_Advaita.htm
 
 
 
 The first thing which struck me was Ramesh's response to a psychiatric
 medical doctor of Jewish origin who spoke of the suffering that had
 pursued him all his life. His father had died in the Nazi camps. The
 fact that he had never met his father had always been a source of
 major suffering for him. His sincere account was touching as he
 expressed it openly in front of everyone.
 
 Ramesh's callous response was, This is just a happening, and you have
 not had any choice. You can only accept!
 
 I will add that on several occasions Ramesh put a Hitler and hundreds
 of Mother Teresas on the same level. I wondered why Ramesh approached
 someone's suffering with such shocking and useless words. (I will
 remark here that several participants were of Jewish origin.)
 
 Then this same doctor asked Ramesh, I have the impression of a
 feeling of energy in your presence, could you explain why to me?
 
 Ramesh's nonsequitur response was, You have spent a thousand Euros
 for this seminar, but if you come to my house, it is free. Although
 this should not prevent you from making a donation. The German staff
 had a lot of fun with this reply.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread purushaz
---Statement below (Enlightened person has an option to stop pain) is
incorrect.  Enlightenment does not imply particular (or any) Siddhis,
which have to do with relative endeavors..  Why stop with control over
pain?  Why not say that Enlightened people can fly through the air 108
miles?  Show me a text that Enlightened people can control pain and
I'll swallow some nails.  

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  That's good and I hope BBrigante responds, however, a Yogi in CC to 
  the level of Brahman would have inner and outer fullness (purnamadah 
  puramidam) and would have been able to choose which way to react, 
  either to stop him OR to let the nail go in and show NO pain.
 
 
 
 
 Not much point in polling the list for an answer to what enlightenment 
 is like, since MMY, somebody who knows what he is talking about (a 
 nice contrast to this list), has written a lot on the subject in his 
 commentary on the Gita, like this from Ch. 3, v. 8:
 
 Meditation is the key to the performance of one's allotted duty. It 
 is a direct way to make glorious every aspect of life, for it 
 transforms a life of bondage in the world into the divine life of 
 eternal freedom in cosmic consciousness, where one experiences the 
 Self as separate from activity. 
 Cosmic consciousness in turn develops into God-consciousness through 
 devotion, the most highly refined type of action, which unites in the 
 light of God the two separate aspects of cosmic consciousness, the 
 Self and activity. This is the blessing of action, that it leads one 
 from the waking state of consciousness to transcendental pure 
 consciousness, thence to cosmic consciousness and finally to God-
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[FairfieldLife] To Rory - Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-18 Thread purushaz
---Thanks, Rory, interesting!.  Question:  Where does YHVH (YAHWEH) 
fit into all of this?  Thanks again.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Oops - below should be Complement of Transcendence-*II* (Brahma-
Shiva-
 Shiva) and ...incorporating the Bliss-complements of 
Transcendence-
 *I* (Shiva-Vishnu-Vishnu), just in case anyone actually is reading 
any 
 of this. My apologies for the linear density of all the above; it 
may 
 look a lot simpler if you draw it in a diagram of three connecting 
 circles (each containing 9 points), along the vertical shishkebab 
of 
 the 27 points of I -- and if you draw a trigram for each of the 
 accompanying guna-states, with Vishnu (V) being an unbroken line 
(0; 
 no gaps), Brahma (B) being a broken line or two short lines (1; 1 
 gap), and Shiva (S) being a twice broken or three short lines (2; 2 
 gaps) and follow the guna progression out from 0 (V-V-V; 0-0-0) to 
26 
 (S-S-S; 2-2-2) in base-three sequence -- then you can really see 
the 
 beauty of the mirroring of the guna-states around the central pivot 
of 
 Brahma-Brahma-Brahma :-)
 
 
  (Brahma-Shiva-Vishnu), Shiva or complement of C.C. (Brahma-
Shiva-
  Brahma), and the Complement of Transcendence-I (Brahma-Shiva-
Shiva)
 at 
  the subtlest end of the egg of Brahma.
  
  From here we move across another gap into the egg of Shiva with 
its 
 9 
  states of Bliss: incorporating the Bliss-complements of 
 Transcendence-
  II (Shiva-Vishnu-Vishnu), snip







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[FairfieldLife] The Wheel of Chaos

2005-07-03 Thread purushaz


http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/theodric/wheel.html

The Wheel of Chaos

This Java applet was inspired by an exhibit at the Franklin Institute 
museum in Philadelphia. The exhibit consists of a large, free-
spinning 
wheel, about 10 feet in diameter, with about a dozen buckets attached 
around the edge of the wheel. Each bucket has a hole in the bottom, 
so 
any water in the bucket leaks out at a constant rate. There is a 
spigot 
at the top of the wheel which will pour water into a bucket if it is 
positioned at the top of the wheel.

As the top bucket fills, it becomes heavy and drops toward the bottom 
of 
the wheel, causing the wheel to turn. As the wheel turns, the other 
buckets rotate around and are filled with water as they pass under 
the 
spigot. As water drains out of each bucket, it may drain into another 
bucket directly underneath it. The sign on the exhibit states that 
the 
world's most powerfull supercomputers are unable to calculate the 
position of the wheel five minutes into the future due to the chaotic 
nature of the system.

In this example, each bucket is represented by a colored square. The 
level of the water in each bucket is also shown for each bucket. The 
light blue line down the center indicate the stream of water coming 
out 
the the spigot at the top. The colored line under each bucket 
represents 
the water draining out of the hole. Note that when a bucket is empty, 
it 
no longer drains water. Also note that in this model, the water falls 
from each bucket at an infinite speed. In the real exhibit, the water 
fell at a slower rate.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative

2005-06-20 Thread purushaz
---Now that you are back into the relative, what are your interests 
and things do do...your checklist of priorities.  Have you taken the 
Bodhisattva vow; if so, what are your plans for helping people? 
(other than just Being).  For example, the movie 6th Sense has  
always fascinated me since it has bolstered my opinion that there are 
a lot of dead people trapped in astral quagmires, awating rescue. Do 
you have a visual access to these non-physical realms, and can you 
see the people trapped there? According to Buddhist principles, 
Enlightened people, the Buddhas, have unlimited access to all/any 
dimensions of existence should they choose to see or venture into 
those realms with a subtle body.  Have you ventured into those realms 
to see if anybody is trapped?
  Also, I'd like to ask you (since you're Enlightened) to ask 
Sakyamuni Buddha what he things about MMY, and then ask Shiva and 
Durga also.  This is not a joke.  I'm serious. Awaiting your 
reply...; and thanks!
 Sometimes I wonder why I keep writing on these chat groups. People
 here are on the conceptual level very fascinated about the absolute.
 I'm not. I'm fascinated about the relative. 
 
 On the experiential level I feel to be all the time connected to the
 infinite. But I don't have much else to say about it than it is
 transcendental to my understanding.
 
 Everything I perceive through this nervous system is relative. And
 that is very fascinating. In my relative perception the highest
 possible stage of consciousness I can be aware of is deep ignorance 
in
 comparison to something much higher I cannot even imagine.
 
 In the relative world everything is in relation to everything else.
 But in order to perceive this relativity you must perceive something
 as other, as an object.
 
 A baby for whom everything is still subject lives in an
 undifferentiated unity, there are no relations to anything, only 
oneness.
 In order to be capable to relate to something, it has to get 
separated
 from the embeddedness in the I. When something is still in 
the I,
 you cannot clearly perceive that function or work with it, instead 
it
 runs you. 
 
 Irmeli




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven On Earth question

2005-06-20 Thread purushaz
---Thanks for bringing that up.  In other words, in the early days 
MMY believed that if enough people practiced TM, this alone would 
bring on the new Age, Heaven on Earth.  That plan didn't seem to pan 
out, since he raised the price of TM to prohibitive levels, thus 
demolishing any hopes of the human race attaining a Heaven on Earth.
  Then, in later decades he believed that Super Radiance would help 
inagurate Heaven on Earth but that plan didn't work (probably due to 
logistical considerations). It's too difficult and costly to get 
thousands of people together in one place for any length of time).
  Now MMY believes that Yagyas will help bring on Heaven on Earth but 
he's failed to implement any serious plan in that regard.  Where are 
the photos of the thousands of Pundits that could have been financed 
by all of the millions of dollars he's collected?  What happened to 
the money?  Sounds more like a Black Hole than Heaven on Earth!. 

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A while back someone asked about the origin of the MMY idea Heaven 
on 
 earth. I was just going thru some old papers and found some old 
copies 
 of Torch Divine, Organ of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement. 
In 
 the April-July 1959 issue (vol 1 no 4) there is an article entitled 
 Divine Revelation in Honolulu by Sheela Devi. In it is the 
following 
 paragraph:
 
 Maharishi often stresses the biblical phrase, Seek ye first the 
 kingdom of heaven; all else will be added UNTO THEE. All else 
 begins to come into life immediately, when the first step is taken 
into 
 the subtle realm of creation, the first step beneath the surface of 
the 
 gross plane of phenomena. This is the need of every individual. 
Shown 
 the way, the mind rushes naturally toward union with the innermost 
 reality. Just BEGIN to seek the Kingdom of Heaven which is within 
you, 
 and all else begins immediately to show forth.harmony and 
 plentywithin the spiritual, mental and physical realms.




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[FairfieldLife] MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05

2005-06-12 Thread purushaz
--- 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Note: forwarded message attached.

Lifespan

Global Press Conference,  8.6.05

MAHARISHI:   ...We can make a sentence: the range of life is on the 
desire
of the liver. Any living man can desire his span of life. Because 
infinity
is completely open to his finite value of life - (through) desiring 
he can
increase. Desiring he can increase. It is open to his awareness.

And now the structure of the Government of the Global Country of 
World 
Peace
will educate the whole population of the world...

In every field the educational institutions will be available to 
remind 
the
living man at any level of invincibility, small level of 
invincibility or
bigger and bigger level of invincibility. These institution of the 
Global
Country of World Peace, all these eight ministries and all that which 
have
been inaugurating today, they will be the lighthouse to guide the 
man, put
him in the light and let him desire how long he wants to live. Let him
desire how long he wants tro live...



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Lifespan

Global Press Conference,  8.6.05

MAHARISHI:   ...We can make a sentence: the range of life is on the 
desire
of the liver. Any living man can desire his span of life. Because 
infinity
is completely open to his finite value of life - (through) desiring 
he can
increase. Desiring he can increase. It is open to his awareness.

And now the structure of the Government of the Global Country of 
World Peace
will educate the whole population of the world...

In every field the educational institutions will be available to 
remind the
living man at any level of invincibility, small level of 
invincibility or
bigger and bigger level of invincibility. These institution of the 
Global
Country of World Peace, all these eight ministries and all that which 
have
been inaugurating today, they will be the lighthouse to guide the 
man, put
him in the light and let him desire how long he wants to live. Let him
desire how long he wants tro live...


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