[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[seventhray27]

You got what you deserved Edg.  How'z" come you weren't born during
Ramana Maharishi's time?  How"z" come that?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
>
> How'z'come it is that we always ask, "Why did Maharishi have sex?"
instead of: "Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all
we could muster up for a guru?"
>
> Edg -- Toad #3,589
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> >
> > OK, in keeping with Buck's theory of FFL posts being in some way
about FFL, I have an offering, based on the tenuous fact of past
habitation in FF and at the mighty Maharishi U.
> >
> > I have a friend who is a dedicated TM meditator (sidha actually)
whom I met at my local TM center here almost 40 years ago. We worked
together on staff for the team of governors who taught the sidhis here
in both North and South Carolina yea those many years ago.
> >
> >
> > This friend is not only a devout TM meditator, but a devout
Christian with strong Christian values. Over the course of these past
few years he has been wrestling with the idea of Maharishi having
allegedly had sex and lying about it to both cover and continue the
behavior.
> >
> >
> > For this friend, these allegations are sort of a lynchpin to his
whole feeling about TM. He has been very surprised to talk with sidhas
and especially governors who were around Maharishi and have become
convinced he was sexually active, but don't seem to care, feeling that
TM itself and whatever they personally experienced was more important
than his being able to lie and sexually manipulate women.
> >
> > For myself, the sexual content of M's life is just symptomatic of a
systemic problem - he wanted to have certain things (sex, money, to be
looked on as the savior of the world) and to get those things he had to
create a persona of a spiritual leader (easy to do since he had so much
charisma) and lie to get what he wanted, with a desire to see people
improve them selves and the world as a background.
> >
> >
> > Personally, I believe that that background got forgotten about and
pushed really into the background more and more as the years went by and
his self aggrandizing hedonistic behavior took over more and more.
> >
> >
> > My friend on the other hand still has the idea that Maharishi was
enlightened, and that since the definition M gave of enlightenment in
many places such as the commentary on the Bhagavad Gita is very specific
as to the enlightened person upholding all the laws of nature for
everyone, never does anything that is not life supporting for anyone
etc, that it would have been impossible for Maharishi to sneak around
doing things that were unethical and lie about it.
> >
> > So for him, the sexual allegations are paramount, if he decides that
M was sexually active and lying about it, it calls into question the
whole teaching because it means M was not enlightened and therefore
could not have known by experience what enlightenment is.
> >
> > My question to everyone who cares to answer is how do you or did you
deal with the idea of Maharishi having sex and lying about it? Do you
think he did, and it doesn't matter or what?
> >
> > For me, I do believe it and it was just part of what became an
increasingly deceptive lifestyle he led, and doesn't have the huge
implications on the teaching of enlightenment that it does for my
friend. I am of the opinion that one can have theoretical knowledge of
the idea of and process of enlightenment and even teach about it, but
not experience it oneself.
> >
> >
> > So how did any of you process these allegations that Maharishi was
sexually active?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL.

[seventhray27]

No, we missed him.  The new attraction I hadn't seen before were women,
naked except for g-strings and pasties, but painted in patriotic colors.
I have to say it wasn't the most family friendly attraction.  Otherwise
it was business as usual on Times Square.  Tons of people, tons of
lights, and some exceptionally talented street artists.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> Welcome back! Did you see the Naked Cowboy?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Cowboy
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey Susan,
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestion about the Frick Museum. It was really
a
> > hi-light of the trip. (the cab ride from Greenwich Village to 70th
and
> > Park wasn't bad either. My daughter got a taste of true NYC taxi
> > driving!)
> >
> > And thanks to Barry and Judy for the Grand Central Station
> > recommendation. We were able to check that out around 11:00 pm on
> > Friday. And 42nd St. was just gearing up.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote:
> > >
> > > Also, how is the weather out there this summer? Las Was this
summer
> > more typical weather, hotter than normal, what?
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Buck, how is the lambing and calving and plowing and so forth
going?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:06 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count
on
> > FFL.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly
> > failing. The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates
FFL
> > with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of
the
> > FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the
> > lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem . These people's
abuse of
> > the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too much.
Something
> > radical, something different needs to be done to save FFL as a
spiritual
> > and free place.
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Magik soap!

[seventhray27]

That was great.  Thanks.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote:
>
> Washing away the sins of mankind to let them shine and become
> united...with a revival of the counterrevolution-culture of the 60's
> This made by Emanuel Bronner(orig.Heilbronner dropping "Heil" from his
> name) after his parents were killed in the Holocaust.He promoted a
> belief in the goodness and unity of humanity and had a somewhat
> fanatical desire to unite the human race.He developed a plan for
> achieving world peace, which he named the Moral ABC - the tenets of
> which are still printed on the labels of Dr Bronner's products
today.To
> disseminate his message, he started writing his philosophy on the
> bottles of his soaps
> Dr. Bronner speaks about his soap empire and the rationale behind his
> innovative advertising - while his son shares a moment with a young
man
> who is a lover of Dr. Bronner's soap delivered in a nutty-professor
> German accent. Believe me, it's an experience.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSicfeTc6w
>
> movie trailer
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YQumvXzLOvg
>
> The "All-One-God-Faith," together with the "Moral ABC," his answer to
> the Ten Commandments, always veering off into a TurquoiseB -like rap
> about the Essene rabbis will unite the human race.
> Bronner's birth control method involves using lemon juice and Vaseline
> as a spermicide.("Essene & Chinese birth controls must reduce birth or
> Easter Isle type overpopulation destroys God's Spaceship Earth! ")
> The details of this can be a bit hard to follow. For example:
> "Replace half-true Socialist-fluoride poison & tax-slavery with
> full-truth, work-speech-press & profitsharing Socialaction! All-One!
So,
> help build 4 billion Hannibal wind-power plants, charging 96 billion
> battery-banks, powering every car-factory-farm-home-monorail & pump,
> watering Babylon-roof-gardens & 800 billion Israel-Milorganite fruit
> trees, guarded by Swiss 6000 year Universal Military Training,"
> etc.There are quotes from Mao, Jesus, Hillel, Einstein, and George
> Washington, among others
> (see next copy /paste post)
> Things didn't really take off until he was discovered by the
> counterculture during the 60s. He's now worth $6 million — not bad
> for somebody who's supposedly nuts.
>
>
[http://www.inc.com/uploaded_files/image/feature-72-dr-bronners-label-pa\
\
> n_15165.jpg]
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://preview.tinyurl.com/llpvwcq
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Fri 16-Aug-13 00:15:06 UTC

[seventhray27]

Gotta admit, sort of a funny cause to take on.  Sounds like you're
running a continual test, and those who react in way you deem indicates
attachment, fail.

How long do you intend to run this test?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> And?
>
> If part of my "goal" were to get TMers or other seekers
> who consistently present themselves as "better" than
> others to *demonstrate* their own attachments, hatreds,
> and reactivity, and thus point out the difference between
> their PR and their reality, can you think of a more
> effective way to do so?
>
> WHAT in the post do they focus on? WHAT do they react
> to?
>
> "What you focus on, you become."
>
> Are you suggesting that they have no *choice* but to
> react the way they do? That's not much of a commercial
> for the spiritual path, is it?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote:
> I don't like the insto-get-out clause that magic gives you.

That was also what I liked so much about the C.S. Lewis series.  The
fact that the Penvensie children die in a train wreck.  Or at least
three that continued to believe in Narnia.


> I saw the Lord of the Rings movies and almost really enjoyed
> them - part 2 was sublime actually - Trouble was the magic, in
> the first episode the main hobbit gets a spear the size of a
> telegraph pole right through his chest pinning him to a concrete
pillar!
>
> I thought that must be the end and got up to leave but no! He
> was wearing a magic waistcoat. How it might work I don't know,
> maybe some sort of quantum superposition? I guess you're supposed
> to suspend your disbelief at that point but I can't, I have to have
> a consistent metaphysics or I think the writer is just being lazy.
>
> Iain Banks does it in some of his sci-fi, one of his characters
> will be in an impossible situation with no possible escape and
> suddenly we find out that he's a shape shifter, which never got
mentioned before, and he slides out of an air vent or something.
> Lazy, lazy...
>
> I think if you are going to have spells then they have to be
> consistently used, if Harry Potter could kill the bad guy with
> a wave of his wand, why doesn't he do it from a safe distance
> rather than waiting till he's hanging upside down in a cellar?
>
> Sorry. It's a pet peeve.
>
>
> > 
> > From: salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 1:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh my lord! That means you can't abide that English woman, Jo
Rowling!
> >
> > Deary me no, Harry Potter and the Gob of Shite. Admittedly I
> > haven't read any of the books and why my (female) friends used
> > to recommend them to me I don't know, but I sat through one of the
movies and wanted to gnaw my legs off after 5 minutes.
> >
> > I think I'm a bit too old for Voldemort being past puberty as I
> > am...
> >
> > > 
> > > From: salyavin808
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:41 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Awww, Come on Sal, why you don't like Deepak?
> > >
> > > I don't like any of these guru types who make a fortune out
> > > of seekers, even if it is their own choice. I don't like the
> > > reliance on quantum physics as a prop for woolly thinking
> > > and undeliverable promises or pushing untested folk medicine.
> > > I don't like the whole "veda is truth" thing. Basically my
> > > same reasons for disliking the TMO.
> > >
> > > I am interested in his split from the TMO though, in our old
> > > tape cupboard at the academy we had a huge box of videos
> > > featuring Deepak with a "not to be played" sign on them. I
> > > gather he went from quite the darling to public enemy number one
> > > very swiftly but I never managed to get a straight answer about
> > > why from anybody.
> > >
> > > Usually it was that he changed Marshy's teaching (I thought it
> > > was him teaching Marshy about AV) or that he made some personal
> > > money out of it which TM bigwigs saw as some sort of ultimate
> > > crime. Bizarrely, as they still sell no end of courses in vedic
#wisdom promising a fruitful career. Maybe they were annoyed as
> > > he was the only one who ever did make a buck out of the TMO.
> > > I know precious few who ever got any "nature" support from that
direction.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I know I have enjoyed his writing - especially his first fiction
novel, Return of Merlin which he supposedly wrote the bulk of during the
year when he was looking after the Big M subsequent to his being
poisoned. I loved that novel.
> > >
> > > Didn't know he wrote fiction though, but I never liked fantasy
> > > novels anyway, if I even get a sniff of a wizard I'm off - It's
> > > sci-fi for me if I'm feeling speculative.
> > >
> > > 
> > > > From: salyavin808
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:22 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂÂ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you're interested in the debate with materialists, you
> > > > > could do a lot better than Chopra. He's not what I would
> > > > > call a rigorous thinker.
> > > >
> > > > He's an asshole.
> > > >
> > > > > You might try Thomas Nagel's "Min

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote:

  I don't like the insto-get-out clause that magic gives you.

Then you might enjoy the Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson books starting
with Peter and Star Catchers.  That was what I liked about them.  No
easy outs.  I mean, even the use of the dolphins who could communicate
and the treacherous mermaids were pretty consistent in what they could
and could not do.  We had them as audio books and remained pretty
riveted on some long drives.

http://www.davebarry.com/books-by-type.php?type=Young
  Adult






> I saw the Lord of the Rings movies and almost really enjoyed
> them - part 2 was sublime actually - Trouble was the magic, in
> the first episode the main hobbit gets a spear the size of a
> telegraph pole right through his chest pinning him to a concrete
pillar!
>
> I thought that must be the end and got up to leave but no! He
> was wearing a magic waistcoat. How it might work I don't know,
> maybe some sort of quantum superposition? I guess you're supposed
> to suspend your disbelief at that point but I can't, I have to have
> a consistent metaphysics or I think the writer is just being lazy.
>
> Iain Banks does it in some of his sci-fi, one of his characters
> will be in an impossible situation with no possible escape and
> suddenly we find out that he's a shape shifter, which never got
mentioned before, and he slides out of an air vent or something.
> Lazy, lazy...
>
> I think if you are going to have spells then they have to be
> consistently used, if Harry Potter could kill the bad guy with
> a wave of his wand, why doesn't he do it from a safe distance
> rather than waiting till he's hanging upside down in a cellar?
>
> Sorry. It's a pet peeve.
>
>
> > 
> > From: salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 1:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh my lord! That means you can't abide that English woman, Jo
Rowling!
> >
> > Deary me no, Harry Potter and the Gob of Shite. Admittedly I
> > haven't read any of the books and why my (female) friends used
> > to recommend them to me I don't know, but I sat through one of the
movies and wanted to gnaw my legs off after 5 minutes.
> >
> > I think I'm a bit too old for Voldemort being past puberty as I
> > am...
> >
> > > 
> > > From: salyavin808
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:41 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Awww, Come on Sal, why you don't like Deepak?
> > >
> > > I don't like any of these guru types who make a fortune out
> > > of seekers, even if it is their own choice. I don't like the
> > > reliance on quantum physics as a prop for woolly thinking
> > > and undeliverable promises or pushing untested folk medicine.
> > > I don't like the whole "veda is truth" thing. Basically my
> > > same reasons for disliking the TMO.
> > >
> > > I am interested in his split from the TMO though, in our old
> > > tape cupboard at the academy we had a huge box of videos
> > > featuring Deepak with a "not to be played" sign on them. I
> > > gather he went from quite the darling to public enemy number one
> > > very swiftly but I never managed to get a straight answer about
> > > why from anybody.
> > >
> > > Usually it was that he changed Marshy's teaching (I thought it
> > > was him teaching Marshy about AV) or that he made some personal
> > > money out of it which TM bigwigs saw as some sort of ultimate
> > > crime. Bizarrely, as they still sell no end of courses in vedic
#wisdom promising a fruitful career. Maybe they were annoyed as
> > > he was the only one who ever did make a buck out of the TMO.
> > > I know precious few who ever got any "nature" support from that
direction.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I know I have enjoyed his writing - especially his first fiction
novel, Return of Merlin which he supposedly wrote the bulk of during the
year when he was looking after the Big M subsequent to his being
poisoned. I loved that novel.
> > >
> > > Didn't know he wrote fiction though, but I never liked fantasy
> > > novels anyway, if I even get a sniff of a wizard I'm off - It's
> > > sci-fi for me if I'm feeling speculative.
> > >
> > > 
> > > > From: salyavin808
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:22 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂÂ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marathon

[seventhray27]

That is so funny Ann.  I think you're likely to see this performance on
a near daily basis!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
> I think Judy has just ru/swam/biked the equivalent of some sort of
Iron
> Woman competition today. Can someone bring out the Gatorade and salt
> tablets? Oh, and get that sports masseuse and arnica. She's sure to
need
> a little muscle relief. If anyone doubts the resilience and strong
> stomach of this woman, think again.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuning Into Vedic Radio

[seventhray27]

Hi Ann,
What may be a double standard to one, may just be a different way of
looking at something to another.  Share takes attacks from many quarters
here.  It was not surprising to me to see Barry launch his own attack. 
As I said before,  I never saw Share as "sucking up to Barry"
Share has her own style of interaction which I see as generally cordial,
and one of trying to find common ground.  If Barry sees that as
mindless, or stupid, or attention getting, then I think that really only
reveals something about him as opposed to Share.
She is also quite open about ideas and spiritual pursuits she finds
interesting.  Evidently that seems to bother some people.
The notion of Share being described as a "doormat" strikes me as
preposterous.
But thank you for pointing out what you feel is an inconsistency in my
reasoning.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good stuff.  This is called taking a stand Rory.  But taking a stand
in
> > a mature, firm way that establishes boundaries.  Too bad it probably
> > won't be appreciated by those who have other agendas they wish to
> > pursue.
>
> You certainly have a double standard when it comes to encouraging
people to establish boundaries. On the one hand you applaud Rory's
"stand" and on the other hand you overlook Share's lack of one. Again,
it is her business whether she is content to be Barry's door mat but you
DO seem to have an inconsistencies in your definition of "stand". No
need to answer, I am getting tired of this subject and just wanted to
point out this small observation.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jim, I appreciate the offering!
> > >
> > > Ravi, I did consider you a friend; as you may recall I was one of
the
> > very few here who stood up for you and defended you, when most here
were
> > abusing you and calling you crazy, etc. I have always respected you
and
> > wished you well. I have no real beliefs that I hold to as Gospel --
as
> > if you have any clarity at all you can see -- so for you to fly at
me
> > with your patented tirades, is I suspect mainly because I won't join
you
> > in attacking Barry. I think you and your cronies do a fine job of
> > attacking him all by yourselves; you seem to enjoy it, and certainly
> > don't need my help. I have found in my own life that I generally
reap
> > what I sow, and sowing love and trying to find common ground usually
> > works better for me than hate, name-calling and abuse. Usually,
anyhow.
> > But maybe that's just me. My life is my own work of art, and yours
is
> > yours. You are free to do with yours what you want, but I would
> > appreciate it if you leave me out of it, and I will leave you out of
> > mine, unless or until you are ready to give me at least as much
respect
> > and appreciation as I have consistently given you.
> > >
> > > And much the same goes for you, Judy -- I have always loved your
> > overall clarity and appreciate much of what you do here, but your
> > calling my energetic process "bullcrap" and opining that I am as
"phony
> > as a three-dollar bill" is -- while quite funny in a way -- simply
> > bullcrap that I don't need in my life. As I suspect you don't need
me in
> > yours.
> > >
> > > Holding the two of you in my heart was essentially self-abuse (and
not
> > the fun kind); it actually has hurt like hell, and I hope I won't
make
> > that mistake in a hurry again.
> > >
> > > Best of luck to the both of you; I do love you both and wish you
all
> > the fulfillment that life has to offer.
> > >
> > > Just without me, for the time being.
> > >
> > > *L*L*L*
> > >
> > > R.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "From the little I know of Rory he seems a sweet and gentle
soul.
> > And he
> > > > doesn't deserve to be abused."
> > > >
> > > > Rory was abused - by whom, when, where, how?
> > > >
> > > > Dear Ann - I seriously hope you are not referring to me. I was
rude
> > and
> > > > harsh - on purpose, because the nature of religious delusional
> > beliefs are
> > > > such, they are very deep rooted, people have so much emotional,
> > > > psychological i

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Open Message To Share

[seventhray27]

Sure Share.  Ann was kinda wondering where I disappeared to.  And yes,
with the massive volume of postings it's hard to keep up with things. 
Like Ravi, I always tried to read each post, if only briefly, but that's
no longer possible. Looking forward to trip, but don't leave until a
week from tomorrow.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> Steve, thank you so much for this, for these compassionate insights,
for taking the time to reply. As always, it means a lot to me.
Especially given how busy you must be. I bet you're also, along with
Emily and turq, getting ready to travel. Have a great time up north with
your daughter! Plus is everyone gearing up for back to school? Anyway,
Steve, all the best always to you and your family. Share
>
>
>
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:26 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Open Message To Share
>
>
>
> Â
> Okay Ann, I'll take your bait.  Share gave a clear explanation
to Jim.   But you may have missed  the subtlety and nuance
of it.  I never saw Share suck up to Barry.  You just don't
do that with Barry.Â
> Sure Barry's rant was mean spirited.  It also seemed to
contain a good amount of frustration.  And I think he also totally
missed, what I felt was, Share's deft way of dealing with the
massive amount of criticisms, insults, and non stop personal
attacks leveled against her.
> Martrydom? No.  Wanting attention?  Fraid not.  Just
someone who justifiably defended herself when attacked, and oftenÂ
did so in a gentle (often)Â and light hearted (most always) way that
just so happened to zero in on the issue at hand.  I am sorry that
you aren't able to appreciate it.
> I didn't agree with any of those criticisms or attacks on her,
although I must admit I found them rather humorous, the way theyÂ
kept coming and from every angle.  But what gave me greater
delight was the way in which Share, in every case, dealt with
them.Â
> And now we see Raunchy and others, (Judy of course) laying some
nice traps to bring up all kinds of old (PR) business.  It also
humorous to see Judy, most every week, marvel at how far more overboard
one of her (perceived) enemies has gone.  But this is Judy's strong
suit of course.
> I may drift off to sleep after this.  Wishing you a good nights
sleep as well.
> Â
> Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > Share, you have Stockholm syndrome
> > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
> > >
> > > I think there's more to it than that, but this is certainly
> > > an element. I suspect another aspect is the one Ann pointed
> > > out last night, addressing Barry: "I think you've just
> > > created the first martyr at FFL. Just watch." Prescient.
> > >
> > > In any case, between Barry's treatment of Share (among many
> > > others) and Share's apparent reaction, the psychopathology
> > > is nothing short of spectacular.
> >
> > This is, in one sense, a dream come true for Share. I knew it when I
read that post and I really believe it now. Barry didn't mean to do
anything positive or remotely helpful for Share; he simply couldn't help
himself. He actually reviles Share for a whole slew of reasons. I warned
her, he has been using her from the beginning.
> >
> > But this situation is, as you say, "nothing short of spectacular".
However, Share wants to be martyred so, in some twist of strangeness,
Barry has made her very happy on some level. And her one Knight has not
appeared because he does not want to ruffle Barry's feathers. He is
strangely silent (Steve, where are you?). Ah, the machinations of this
forum, and of human beings in general, is fascinating. Curtis even
dropped by today. If Robin were actually reading any of this he would
have something to say. But in the end, only Share can decide for herself
what serves her best and for what reasons and what it is that needs
feeding.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuning Into Vedic Radio

[seventhray27]

Good stuff.  This is called taking a stand Rory.  But taking a stand in
a mature, firm way that establishes boundaries.  Too bad it probably
won't be appreciated by those who have other agendas they wish to
pursue.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jim, I appreciate the offering!
>
> Ravi, I did consider you a friend; as you may recall I was one of the
very few here who stood up for you and defended you, when most here were
abusing you and calling you crazy, etc. I have always respected you and
wished you well. I have no real beliefs that I hold to as Gospel -- as
if you have any clarity at all you can see -- so for you to fly at me
with your patented tirades, is I suspect mainly because I won't join you
in attacking Barry. I think you and your cronies do a fine job of
attacking him all by yourselves; you seem to enjoy it, and certainly
don't need my help. I have found in my own life that I generally reap
what I sow, and sowing love and trying to find common ground usually
works better for me than hate, name-calling and abuse. Usually, anyhow.
But maybe that's just me. My life is my own work of art, and yours is
yours. You are free to do with yours what you want, but I would
appreciate it if you leave me out of it, and I will leave you out of
mine, unless or until you are ready to give me at least as much respect
and appreciation as I have consistently given you.
>
> And much the same goes for you, Judy -- I have always loved your
overall clarity and appreciate much of what you do here, but your
calling my energetic process "bullcrap" and opining that I am as "phony
as a three-dollar bill" is -- while quite funny in a way -- simply
bullcrap that I don't need in my life. As I suspect you don't need me in
yours.
>
> Holding the two of you in my heart was essentially self-abuse (and not
the fun kind); it actually has hurt like hell, and I hope I won't make
that mistake in a hurry again.
>
> Best of luck to the both of you; I do love you both and wish you all
the fulfillment that life has to offer.
>
> Just without me, for the time being.
>
> *L*L*L*
>
> R.
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
> >
> > "From the little I know of Rory he seems a sweet and gentle soul.
And he
> > doesn't deserve to be abused."
> >
> > Rory was abused - by whom, when, where, how?
> >
> > Dear Ann - I seriously hope you are not referring to me. I was rude
and
> > harsh - on purpose, because the nature of religious delusional
beliefs are
> > such, they are very deep rooted, people have so much emotional,
> > psychological investment in it and I cannot leave them unchallenged.
I am
> > known to be abusive, but not in this case since as you say Rory is a
sweet
> > and gentle soul. But there weren't but sweet and gentle souls around
Amma
> > and many on this list as well and I had to be harsh and rude. Of
course I
> > am not rude and harsh to everyone - if it's a friend I'm still going
to
> > challenge gently and firmly (of course I don't call their beliefs
> > delusional but in my mind I do) and I have challenged however hard
and
> > uncomfortable it is to me. Trust me I don't particularly enjoy it.
In this
> > case Rory is not particularly a close friend and I preferred to
chose the
> > rude, harsh way.
> >
> > The only person I have given a free pass is a 64 year old Jewish
gentleman
> > named David around Amma, I met him after my mystical experiences in
2009 -
> > I very much got attracted to David-ji. I consider him as a father
figure
> > and he was in charge of cleaning Amma's temple and I helped him and
used to
> > obey him unconditionally, first time in my life following the orders
of a
> > man in my personal life. So he may talk about Amma as Divine Mother
and I
> > give it as pass though I may address it in a roundabout way. I told
him I
> > attacked Amma online and he just laughed because he knows me and has
seen
> > me as the mad, crazy yogi, an iconoclast who challenges people,
mocks
> > people beliefs, push people's buttons. This challenge comes up even
as I
> > deal with family members - my dharma, responsibility to love,
support them
> > as a son, as a brother, relative vs my need to challenge people's
> > delusional beliefs - it's not easy, I have to assess moment to
moment.
> >
> > So there I hope this explains that somehow. Even if you were to come
> > tomorrow come up with a narrative for spiritual experiences, a
philosophy I
> > will challenge it Ann even though I like you very much, but
obviously
> > gently and firmly. Same applies to any other friend of mine, I am
not going
> > to let any religious delusional belief go unchallenged.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The party continues...and parties need music...
> > > >
> > > > Bringing you da freshest!
> > > >
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Open Message To Share

[seventhray27]

Okay Ann, I'll take your bait.  Share gave a clear explanation to Jim.  
But you may have missed  the subtlety and nuance of it.  I never saw
Share suck up to Barry.  You just don't do that with Barry.

Sure Barry's rant was mean spirited.  It also seemed to contain a good
amount of frustration.  And I think he also totally missed, what I felt
was, Share's deft way of dealing with the massive amount of criticisms,
insults, and non stop personal attacks leveled against her.

Martrydom? No.  Wanting attention?  Fraid not.  Just someone who
justifiably defended herself when attacked, and often did so in a gentle
(often) and light hearted (most always) way that just so happened to
zero in on the issue at hand.  I am sorry that you aren't able to
appreciate it.

I didn't agree with any of those criticisms or attacks on her, although
I must admit I found them rather humorous, the way they kept coming and
from every angle.  But what gave me greater delight was the way in which
Share, in every case, dealt with them.

And now we see Raunchy and others, (Judy of course) laying some nice
traps to bring up all kinds of old (PR) business.  It also humorous to
see Judy, most every week, marvel at how far more overboard one of her
(perceived) enemies has gone.  But this is Judy's strong suit of course.

I may drift off to sleep after this.  Wishing you a good nights sleep as
well.



  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > Share, you have Stockholm syndrome
> >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
> >
> > I think there's more to it than that, but this is certainly
> > an element. I suspect another aspect is the one Ann pointed
> > out last night, addressing Barry: "I think you've just
> > created the first martyr at FFL. Just watch." Prescient.
> >
> > In any case, between Barry's treatment of Share (among many
> > others) and Share's apparent reaction, the psychopathology
> > is nothing short of spectacular.
>
> This is, in one sense, a dream come true for Share. I knew it when I
read that post and I really believe it now. Barry didn't mean to do
anything positive or remotely helpful for Share; he simply couldn't help
himself. He actually reviles Share for a whole slew of reasons. I warned
her, he has been using her from the beginning.
>
> But this situation is, as you say, "nothing short of spectacular".
However, Share wants to be martyred so, in some twist of strangeness,
Barry has made her very happy on some level. And her one Knight has not
appeared because he does not want to ruffle Barry's feathers. He is
strangely silent (Steve, where are you?). Ah, the machinations of this
forum, and of human beings in general, is fascinating. Curtis even
dropped by today. If Robin were actually reading any of this he would
have something to say. But in the end, only Share can decide for herself
what serves her best and for what reasons and what it is that needs
feeding.
>
>
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

Sounds pretty clear to me, Rory.  And pretty earthy too.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
> >
> > Well Barry's never had an issue with Rory Mark II because Rory Mark
II
> > never had anything much to say to Barry's dishonest tantrums other
than
> > wavicle, particle, me, Us, love, light, laughter bullshit. Perhaps
Rory
> > had an opening at the Rorian Mystery School and was looking at Barry
as
> > a potential student? We will never know and perhaps it is destined
to
> > remain a mystery.
>
> Hey, Ravi, I am happy you have felt moved to call Barry on his
"tantrums" (plural: tantra?), if that pleases you, but that is not my
style. I don't find, usually, that pointing my finger outward really
solves my feelings inward. Some of that may be because I grew up in a
family with a very large, strong, unpredictably angry father, where that
kind of honesty would have instantly brought me great suffering, if not
death, and, coward that I am, I didn't particularly want to suffer or --
miserable though I found life sometimes -- to die.
>
> Of course, there are always exceptions, and I contain huge amounts of
ignorance within me, and in real life I speak out in an attempt to "comb
the mirror" more often than necessary, I am pretty sure.
>
> Your mileage may of course widely vary. I am not trying to change you
or Barry or Judy. I see my mission here as simple: love what IS, no
matter how ugly it may appear to me and in me at first. Of course, as
you can see, I also like the feeling of understanding and being
understood, and hence my dialogues. And I like the feeling of
assimilation and healing, once I have actually assimilated and healed
the rather intense suffering I often feel here. Anyhow, thank you for
being You.
>
> *L*L*L*
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavad Gita: In English Chapter 01 The first word

[seventhray27]

Not, "In a world"?  Oh, maybe that was the movie preview.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Dhrtarastra
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review

[seventhray27]

Thanks for the recommendation.  I think we're staying at the Holiday Inn
Express in Newark which has a shuttle to the city.  I just checked the
rate for the Kimberly, and it was a little pricey for our budget, (but
it did get excellent reviews)

By coincidence, my wife told me a few minutes after your reply, that the
one museum she might recommend was the Frick, so we may try to fit that
in.


And good to know where we might find some Indian Food if need be.  I
remember the last time I was there, I ducked into a little Greek diner
for some good roasted chicken.

I also meant to tell Ravi that the Indian/Nepalese restaurant we
frequent here, has awesome mango lassies.  But, we save those for the
occasional times when we get a table.

http://www.everestcafeandbar.com/ <http://www.everestcafeandbar.com/>

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote:
>
>
> Should you need a place to stayI h.

ave not stayed there, but friends have stayed at the the Kimberly Hotel
in Manhattan. Reasonable (for NYC) rates and a top of the building that
has spectacular views. I think you can eat or have drinks up there.
>
> The Indian food area is at about Lexington Avenue and say 24-28th
Streets. I doubt you will get anything as good as your local spot.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thank you so much!
> >
> > And yes to the Indian Food.
> >
> > Speaking of Indian Food, we are fortunate to have the most fabulous
> > Indian/Nepalese restaurant close by. Usually once a week my wife
will
> > pick up some Matar Panir for the family. It is always perfectly
spiced.
> >
> > And how can it be that naan from one place can seem so much better
than
> > from another place?
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote:
> > >
> > > At Grand Central, be sure to look up at the huge vaulted ceiling
with
> > constellations painted on it. Lots of shops and small restauntsts
right
> > there, too. Another interesting place, if you like Italian food, is
> > called Eataly. Near Macy's and Herald Square. It is a huge indoor
space
> > filled with various vendors of Italian food items: olive oil,
sauces,
> > fresh made pastas, cookbooks, and several types of Italian
restaurants
> > (one if all vegetarian and lots of greens and salads, one has
terrificf
> > resh pizza, etc)
> > > There is a section on Manhattan that has many Indian restaurants
if
> > you like that.
> > >
> > > Lincoln Center is a good place to attend a concert if anything
good is
> > in town then.
> > > Himalayan Art: The Rubin Museum
> > > Old Masters: The Frick (in gorgeous old palazzo style building) or
Met
> > Museum of Art
> > > Some museums are pricey, including the Museum of Nat History and
> > Frick.
> > >
> > > Dance: The Joyce theater has reasonable prices for modern dance
> > troupes from around the world.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Even if your travel plans don't require you to go there, don't
miss
> > > > Grand Central Terminal. I *love* that place. You can just find a
> > > > bench or a bar seat overlooking the main plaza and just *watch*
> > > > people, and it's one of the best zoos on earth.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Couple things come to mind.
> > > > > I read an article recently that described excessive noise
> > pollution in
> > > > > NYC, almost at all hours. I mean, I know that has been an
issue,
> > even
> > > > > 35 years ago when I was stranded there one night, and a woman
took
> > me
> > > > > in. I remember hearing all the noise some 12 stories below.
> > > > > But it must have gotten quite a bit worse, which was the gist
of
> > this
> > > > > article. It wasn't so much the noise during normal hours, but
> > rather
> > > > > the early morning and late night noise.
> > > > > On another note, I am going to Boston for a business vendor
show
> > in a
> > > > > week or so, and then meeting my daughter, and we are going to
> > visit
> > > > NYC
> > > > > for late afternoon, evening one day and a full day following.
> > > > > I didn't know if anyone had any suggestions on how to maximize
the
> > > > > "feel" on a short visit like 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 12-Aug-13 00:15:04 UTC

[seventhray27]

Someone, I forget who, was assigned to call you.  Maybe they forgot, or
maybe you were at the swimming pool.  Sorry about that.  Anyway, yea,
the posting limit has been lifted.  For a month at least, and maybe
more.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote:
>
> What's the secret of posting > 50 messages? Do you pile on the
postings
> before the authorities have had a chance to immobilise your account
and
> accept the fact that you'll be banned for a week? Or has the limit now
> been abandoned and no one bothered to tell me?
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote:
> >
> > Fairfield Life Post Counter
> > ===
> > Start Date (UTC): 08/10/13 00:00:00
> > End Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00
> > 504 messages as of (UTC) 08/12/13 00:14:56
> >
> > 67 doctordumbass
> > 65 RoryGoff
> > 64 Share Long
> > 62 authfriend
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > I know what he's saying too. It comes across to me as
> > egotistical. And phony as a three-dollar bill. (I'm
> > sure *he* thinks it's true, but that's the egotism,
> > IMHO.)
>
> OK, phony too, Judy! Thanks. You are very generous with the offerings
today. Now it appears you may somewhat agree with Curtis, who saw me as
a Neurolinguistic-programming, form-running charlatan. This is indeed a
day to remember.
>
> I like that you add that you are sure I am self-deceiving,

that's how the seed sprouts

though, because a) that's a new twist; Curtis hadn't come up with that,
and b) that may well be true. How would I know? You are often very
perspicacious, I have found, so you may well be right here, too. The
very thought fills me with bliss! I love being wrong! Thanks again.
>
> Love Always,
>
> R.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

Thanks Rory.  That's how I see it as well.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
> Beautiful, Steve. Thsnk you so much.
>
> Yes, it is for me, all about getting to know and appreciate and love
all the aspects of myself more and more and more.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't know Rory. There has to be some channel on which to
transmit.
> > That is what I hear you saying. So, what may appear to be a lot of
> > philosophical mumbo jumbo is just a means for you to transmit a
certain
> > amount love or silence, or whatever else you may be transmitting. I
> > think that's fair and legitimate. It may not be my cuppa tea, but I
can
> > dig it.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank You! I love that! (really) :-)
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey, neat reply! I like that. (really)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, dear Ravi; so you think I am spouting vague philosophical
> > bullshit
> > > > to avoid being real? Perhaps so, but it does not feel that way
to
> > me. As
> > > > I interact with Share, or Barry, or you, or anyone, I really
feel
> > you in
> > > > me, I attend to you in me, I love you in me, I heal and
integrate
> > those
> > > > parts of you that are in and of me.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I say is almost always, almost meaningless, and it almost
> > always
> > > > will be; it is merely a vehicle for transmitting love between
us.
> > That
> > > > in my POV is as real as it gets.
> > > > >
> > > > > *L*L*L*
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > chivukula.ravi@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No dear Rory - it's not fiction, it's a beautiful sounding
> > > > philosophy. If
> > > > > > it were fiction no one would fucking bother reading it
because
> > it's
> > > > so
> > > > > > cryptic, vague, boring as hell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As you can see from your audience - Share and Barry, both
> > delusional
> > > > - one
> > > > > > playing along with you, one playing against you apparently.
The
> > more
> > > > > > beautiful the philosophy the more it attracts the
delusional,
> > > > because being
> > > > > > oneself, being authentic, being open, being vulnerable is a
> > hard,
> > > > being
> > > > > > fascinated by some garbage philosophy and the peddlers of
such
> > > > garbage
> > > > > > philosophy like you, the myriad Gurus, teachers is easy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WHAT, Ravi?!? You don't regard what I write as fiction?! I
am
> > > > shocked and
> > > > > > > insulted. And really really mad.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *kiss*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *L*L*L*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LOL..you reminded me of my childhood.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was 9 or 10 and then there was a pocket Bhagavad Gita
at
> > my
> > > > house. I
> > > > > > > > would start reading it, it would always go...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *"Dharmakshetrey Kurukshetrey...blah blah..kim karoti
> > Sanjaya?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

To coin a MMY term, I offer it up to the "play and display of creative
intelligence".  Live and let live etc.  No need for me to pass judgment
on it.  Too many other things to do.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" rorygoff@ wrote:
> >
> > > > What I say is almost always, almost meaningless, and it almost
> > > > always will be; it is merely a vehicle for transmitting love
> > > > between us. That in my POV is as real as it gets.
> > >
> > > I take it back. *This* is the most egregious display of
> > > ego I've ever seen.
> > >
> > Strange. I think I know just what Rory is saying.
>
> Well, of course you do.
>
> > I don't see it as egotistical at all.
>
> Well, of course you don't.
>
> I know what he's saying too. It comes across to me as
> egotistical. And phony as a three-dollar bill. (I'm
> sure *he* thinks it's true, but that's the egotism,
> IMHO.)
>
> >
> > I mean, it also makes me think that I haven't missed anything by not
> > reading it, but I understand what he is saying about the
"transmitting"
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

Pipe is usually about a two month stint.  Then I put it away.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Sure it is relaxing - as I was telling someone it's just not nicotine
but
> the sensory experience and the whole ritual that goes with it. It's a
long
> habit for me now.
>
> I think I'm taking in more nicotine with the e-cigarette, the starter
pack
> has high nicotine and I used to smoke ultra-lights. So anyone I will
get
> the lighter version and eventually zero nicotine. E-cigs aren't same
as
> cigarettes sensory wise but pretty close and if I just mindlessly
emulate
> my ritual with the e-cig I should be fine.
>
> Anyway I hope you don't start the pipe Steve, you may regret :-)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Funny. I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again.
Help
> > deal with stress in general.
> >
> > Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed. It has been a very mild
> > summer, weather-wise.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" wrote:
> > >
> > > Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes
and I'm
> > > on e-cigarettes starting today :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory & Jim's philosophy - as
simple
> > > as
> > > > that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other
agenda,
> > > no
> > > > interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling
Barry's
> > > > paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-)
-
> > > though
> > > > it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded
spamming
> > > but
> > > > nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and
they are
> > > > making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very
something
> > > > interesting, something authentic and real.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being
> > > > > constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please,
> > > > > don't you start--at least not when this is only the third
> > > > > day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's
> > > > > something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm
> > > > > down in a few days.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no
> > > > > content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several
> > > > > that I found of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they
can
> > > fucking
> > > > > > shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The
problem is
> > > there is
> > > > > > nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of
Rory,
> > > Jim
> > > > > > talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions
from
> > > Share to
> > > > > > them you see.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the
same
> > > game at
> > > > > Amma
> > > > > > - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for
her
> > > > > delusional
> > > > > > devotee base.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM,
Maharishi
> > > > > > philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend authfriend@
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

I don't know Rory.  There has to be some channel on which to transmit. 
That is what I hear you saying.  So, what may appear to be a  lot of
philosophical mumbo jumbo is just a means for you to transmit a certain
amount love or silence, or whatever else you may be transmitting.  I
think that's fair and legitimate.  It may not be my cuppa tea, but I can
dig it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
> Thank You! I love that! (really) :-)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey, neat reply! I like that. (really)
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, dear Ravi; so you think I am spouting vague philosophical
bullshit
> > to avoid being real? Perhaps so, but it does not feel that way to
me. As
> > I interact with Share, or Barry, or you, or anyone, I really feel
you in
> > me, I attend to you in me, I love you in me, I heal and integrate
those
> > parts of you that are in and of me.
> > >
> > > What I say is almost always, almost meaningless, and it almost
always
> > will be; it is merely a vehicle for transmitting love between us.
That
> > in my POV is as real as it gets.
> > >
> > > *L*L*L*
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No dear Rory - it's not fiction, it's a beautiful sounding
> > philosophy. If
> > > > it were fiction no one would fucking bother reading it because
it's
> > so
> > > > cryptic, vague, boring as hell.
> > > >
> > > > As you can see from your audience - Share and Barry, both
delusional
> > - one
> > > > playing along with you, one playing against you apparently. The
more
> > > > beautiful the philosophy the more it attracts the delusional,
> > because being
> > > > oneself, being authentic, being open, being vulnerable is a
hard,
> > being
> > > > fascinated by some garbage philosophy and the peddlers of such
> > garbage
> > > > philosophy like you, the myriad Gurus, teachers is easy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > WHAT, Ravi?!? You don't regard what I write as fiction?! I am
> > shocked and
> > > > > insulted. And really really mad.
> > > > >
> > > > > *kiss*
> > > > >
> > > > > *L*L*L*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOL..you reminded me of my childhood.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was 9 or 10 and then there was a pocket Bhagavad Gita at
my
> > house. I
> > > > > > would start reading it, it would always go...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *"Dharmakshetrey Kurukshetrey...blah blah..kim karoti
Sanjaya?
> > > > >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > I would read that first verse always and then get bored and
> > throw the
> > > > > book
> > > > > > away. And move on fiction, something interesting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is the same with Rory and Jim's garbage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM, obbajeeba
> > no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bhahaha. You two are going to entice me to post with one
word
> > at a
> > > > > time. I
> > > > > > > think I will recite (copy and paste) the Bhagavad Gita
that
> > way, right
> > > > > > > now..
> > > > > > > Staring from the first page. Does anyone have a preference
to
> > which
> > > > > > > version I should post or at least start with?
> > > > > > > Remember, enlightenment co

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" rorygoff@ wrote:

> > What I say is almost always, almost meaningless, and it almost
> > always will be; it is merely a vehicle for transmitting love
> > between us. That in my POV is as real as it gets.
>
> I take it back. *This* is the most egregious display of
> ego I've ever seen.
>
Strange.  I think I know just what Rory is saying.  I don't see it as
egotistical at all.

I mean, it also makes me think that I haven't missed anything by not
reading it, but I understand what he is saying about the "transmitting"

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

Funny.  I just told my wife I want to start up with my pipe again.  Help
deal with stress in general.

Right now though I couldn't be more relaxed.  It has been a very mild
summer, weather-wise.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" wrote:
>
> Or I may be just antsy because I quit smoking regular cigarettes and
I'm
> on e-cigarettes starting today :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Dear Judy, I'm just making fun of Rory & Jim's philosophy - as
simple
> as
> > that. They are big boys - they can handle it. I have no other
agenda,
> no
> > interest in limiting any one's posts, no interest in enabling
Barry's
> > paranoid delusional antics and tantrums, my word is not Veda :-) -
> though
> > it has been a big chore the last 2 days with their unbounded
spamming
> but
> > nothing I can't handle. See I want to read every message and they
are
> > making it harder right now LOL, I just wish it were very something
> > interesting, something authentic and real.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Look, Ravi, most of us are really sick and tired of being
> > > constantly badgered by Barry about our post counts. Please,
> > > don't you start--at least not when this is only the third
> > > day of no limits. If it keeps up like this, that's
> > > something else again. But as I said, it'll most likely calm
> > > down in a few days.
> > >
> > > BTW, I disagree about Rory's and DrD's posts having no
> > > content. A lot of them didn't, but there were several
> > > that I found of interest.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging.
> > > >
> > > > But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they can
> fucking
> > > > shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The problem is
> there is
> > > > nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of Rory,
> Jim
> > > > talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions from
> Share to
> > > > them you see.
> > > >
> > > > I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the same
> game at
> > > Amma
> > > > - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for her
> > > delusional
> > > > devotee base.
> > > >
> > > > I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM, Maharishi
> > > > philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes dear Obba this is too much crap, this unlimited posting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cool it, Ravi dollink. This first week is like a crowd
> > > > > of malnourished folks suddenly having access to a banquet;
> > > > > everybody's going to overeat. It'll calm down pretty soon.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Jim, Rory - I know you guys are helpless victims of your
> IED
> > > > > > (Intellectual Enlightenment Disorder) and can't stop
spamming,
> > > talking
> > > > > > about your UC, BC garbage but is it possible you can
email/IM
> each
> > > > > > other. Take my dear Aunt Share with you - she is the only
one
> > > delusional
> > > > > > enough to entertain you guys. Or perhaps the BATGAP list?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you do that for the rest of the normal people like *Us*
> here, I
> > > know
> > > > > > your *me*'s are very nice, and humble
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or just condense your fucking bullshit and the number of
posts
> > > please.
> > > > > > Make it easy on *Us* non-UC folks. Is that too much to ask?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Love, Light, Laughter
> > > > > > Ravi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[seventhray27]

Hey, neat reply!  I like that.  (really)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
> Ah, dear Ravi; so you think I am spouting vague philosophical bullshit
to avoid being real? Perhaps so, but it does not feel that way to me. As
I interact with Share, or Barry, or you, or anyone, I really feel you in
me, I attend to you in me, I love you in me, I heal and integrate those
parts of you that are in and of me.
>
> What I say is almost always, almost meaningless, and it almost always
will be; it is merely a vehicle for transmitting love between us. That
in my POV is as real as it gets.
>
> *L*L*L*
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
> >
> > No dear Rory - it's not fiction, it's a beautiful sounding
philosophy. If
> > it were fiction no one would fucking bother reading it because it's
so
> > cryptic, vague, boring as hell.
> >
> > As you can see from your audience - Share and Barry, both delusional
- one
> > playing along with you, one playing against you apparently. The more
> > beautiful the philosophy the more it attracts the delusional,
because being
> > oneself, being authentic, being open, being vulnerable is a hard,
being
> > fascinated by some garbage philosophy and the peddlers of such
garbage
> > philosophy like you, the myriad Gurus, teachers is easy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > WHAT, Ravi?!? You don't regard what I write as fiction?! I am
shocked and
> > > insulted. And really really mad.
> > >
> > > *kiss*
> > >
> > > *L*L*L*
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > LOL..you reminded me of my childhood.
> > > >
> > > > I was 9 or 10 and then there was a pocket Bhagavad Gita at my
house. I
> > > > would start reading it, it would always go...
> > > >
> > > > *"Dharmakshetrey Kurukshetrey...blah blah..kim karoti Sanjaya?
> > >
> > > > *
> > > > I would read that first verse always and then get bored and
throw the
> > > book
> > > > away. And move on fiction, something interesting.
> > > >
> > > > This is the same with Rory and Jim's garbage.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM, obbajeeba
no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bhahaha. You two are going to entice me to post with one word
at a
> > > time. I
> > > > > think I will recite (copy and paste) the Bhagavad Gita that
way, right
> > > > > now..
> > > > > Staring from the first page. Does anyone have a preference to
which
> > > > > version I should post or at least start with?
> > > > > Remember, enlightenment comes one
> > > > >
> > > > > word
> > > > >
> > > > > at
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > time. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I am kidding, I promise not to do the above.
> > > > >
> > > > > Laughing over here, imagining Ravi is rag and Judy calming the
> > > waters...
> > > > > Now for the complete, Bhagavad Gita, one word post at a
> > > > > time...I lied, I am going to do it..
> > > > > watch me...
> > > > >
> > > > > ..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No dear Judy I will not cool it. I'm fucking raging.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I think the problem's just Rory, Jim and Share, if they
can
> > > fucking
> > > > > > shut up for the rest of the week we will be fine. The
problem is
> > > there is
> > > > > > nothing concrete in their posts - it's like 100 message of
Rory, Jim
> > > > > > talking about vague garbage and then 50 innocent questions
from
> > > Share to
> > > > > > them you see.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have seen this bullshit at the batgap list. This is the
same game
> > > at
> > > > > Amma
> > > > > > - she talks about vague garbage, philosophy, platitudes for
her
> > > > > delusional
> > > > > > devotee base.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm curious - is Jim and Rory can devoid of the TM,
Maharishi
> > > > > > philosophy/lingo/garbage explain what is the bottomline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes dear Obba this is too much crap, this unlimited
posting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cool it, Ravi dollink. This first week is like a crowd
> > > > > > > of malnourished folks suddenly having access to a banquet;
> > > > > > > everybody's going to overeat. It'll calm down pretty soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hey Jim, Rory - I know you guys are helpless victims of
your IED
> > > > > > > > (Intellectual Enlightenment Disorder) and can't stop
spamming,
> > > > > talking
> > > > > > > > about your UC, BC garbage but is it possible you can
e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review

[seventhray27]

Thank you so much!

And yes to the Indian Food.

Speaking of Indian Food, we are fortunate to have the most fabulous
Indian/Nepalese restaurant close by.  Usually once a week my wife will
pick up some Matar Panir for the family.  It is always perfectly spiced.

And how can it be that naan from one place can seem so much better than
from another place?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote:
>
> At Grand Central, be sure to look up at the huge vaulted ceiling with
constellations painted on it. Lots of shops and small restauntsts right
there, too. Another interesting place, if you like Italian food, is
called Eataly. Near Macy's and Herald Square. It is a huge indoor space
filled with various vendors of Italian food items: olive oil, sauces,
fresh made pastas, cookbooks, and several types of Italian restaurants
(one if all vegetarian and lots of greens and salads, one has terrificf
resh pizza, etc)
> There is a section on Manhattan that has many Indian restaurants if
you like that.
>
> Lincoln Center is a good place to attend a concert if anything good is
in town then.
> Himalayan Art: The Rubin Museum
> Old Masters: The Frick (in gorgeous old palazzo style building) or Met
Museum of Art
> Some museums are pricey, including the Museum of Nat History and
Frick.
>
> Dance: The Joyce theater has reasonable prices for modern dance
troupes from around the world.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Even if your travel plans don't require you to go there, don't miss
> > Grand Central Terminal. I *love* that place. You can just find a
> > bench or a bar seat overlooking the main plaza and just *watch*
> > people, and it's one of the best zoos on earth.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
> > >
> > > Couple things come to mind.
> > > I read an article recently that described excessive noise
pollution in
> > > NYC, almost at all hours. I mean, I know that has been an issue,
even
> > > 35 years ago when I was stranded there one night, and a woman took
me
> > > in. I remember hearing all the noise some 12 stories below.
> > > But it must have gotten quite a bit worse, which was the gist of
this
> > > article. It wasn't so much the noise during normal hours, but
rather
> > > the early morning and late night noise.
> > > On another note, I am going to Boston for a business vendor show
in a
> > > week or so, and then meeting my daughter, and we are going to
visit
> > NYC
> > > for late afternoon, evening one day and a full day following.
> > > I didn't know if anyone had any suggestions on how to maximize the
> > > "feel" on a short visit like this.
> > > On the full day, I was thinking we might take a 40 minute boat
ride to
> > > see the Statue of Liberty and make our way up, via walking, to the
> > World
> > > Trade Center sight, walk through China Town up to Times Square and
> > then
> > > taxi up to Rockefeller Center and Central Park and take in a few
of
> > the
> > > shopping avenues.
> > > But I'd love to hear any suggestions if anyone has any.
> > > Thanks.
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I only visited NYC once, with some friends when I was 16. We
really
> > > wanted to visit Greenwich Village and pretend to be like Mary. No,
not
> > > the Virgin Mary though we were a bunch of good Catholic girls!
Mary as
> > > in Peter, Paul and Mary. That was almost 50 years ago and I
remember
> > > loving the vibe there. Not sure how it would feel to me now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:55 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, turq, looks thought provoking and yes, revolutionary.
> > > > > Reminds me of a Star Trek episode wherein the wealthy lived
> > > > > on a cloud that floated above the planet where the poor
> > > > > worked in mines whose toxic fumes lowered their intelligence.
> > > >
> > > > You mean Manhattan? Where the rich live in penthouses
> > > > far a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[seventhray27]

The 1% effect demonstrated by Obiwon!  Finally a gem out of the deluge. 
And yes, all these continual speculations about the Robster!  (okay I
think that's the case, because, Lord have mercy, the most I've  been
able to do is message view for the last three days)

Ravi, thank you as well.  But maybe Judy is right.  Maybe, prayerfully,
it may settle down.  On the other hand, the subject matter is on
infinity this and unboundedness that, (or at least I think it is.  I
haven't even given that the benefit of message view, at least after the
first hundred of so)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Listen, Robin, just please come out of somewhere and post something,
okay?
> Otherwise we here, have to keep reading on all the contemplations
about you, your, is, was, will be, what, how, when.
>
> If we can summon Robbin to please post, it is like a neutralizing
effect, "Robin's Effect," to balance all this back and forth.
>
> Please, Robin come forth, (someone prod him) or at least someone
pretend to be him on this board, and write a big long post(s), to simmer
this unlimited posting heroin addicted behavior of things about Robin?
> If Robin posts, a calm will settle in, because most will be too afraid
to address him with 5 word sentences, because they will feel too stupid
to do that, next to the magnanimous, colossal free style thinking
written and it will shut our traps to continue these trivial scrabble
game variables!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" rorygoff@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, when it got down to it at the "end,"...
> > > > >
> > > > > TB: OK, stop right there. Really.
> > > >
> > > > R: Yes! "Stop right there. Really." Exactly! :-)
> > >
> > TB: > Who exactly is it who is "signing" the things
> > > said so far in this discussion by "labeling"
> > > them, Robin-style? Would we be wrong in
> > > perceiving it as an "I" or an ego?
> >
> > R: I am not sure exactly what you mean by "labeling" them,
Robin-style, but sure, it is a functioning "I" and/or an ego. Or perhaps
a cluster of us, might be more accurate. Maybe. Or That functioning as
an I, as Tom T. used to say.
> >
> > > > > TB: What on earth -- *other* than ego -- could cause a single
> > > > > iteration of genus homo spapiens to declare that "where
> > > > > *he* was at" was "the end?"
> > > >
> > > > R: Ha! Yeah, just trying to convey as best I can, through
> > > > ego, something that is in truth utterly unconveyable, at
> > > > least by words. This is "something" that is *UNLIKE ANY
> > > > OTHER THING* a priori, inconceivable, indescribable, and
> > > > simultaneously utterly ordinary, always been here, always
> > > > will be, yet not, utterly perfect and utterly flawed.
> > >
> > TB: And "I" attained it, and deign to talk to you *anyway*.
> > > Isn't that magnanimous of me? :-)
> >
> > R: Yeah, "I" died. There was absolutely nothing to "attain." I
gained nothing; I lost everything; Now everything just Is. Just as it
always has been. Big whoop. Now what's for lunch? :-)
> >
> > > > And so on. Utterly satisfying, utterly devastating. "No
> > > > man shall see the face of God and live" :-)
> > >
> > TB: Yet someone in this discussion still seems to regard his
> > > self as "I" and a "man." Go figure.
> >
> > R: Go figure indeed! I never claimed it was logical, or describable,
or conveyable in any real sense other than Being, or Love, from Being
and to Being. It appears only the grateful dead can know the grateful
dead! Or, maybe it's more accurate to say I simply have my head up my
own ass! :-D
> >
> > > > > TB: I *honestly* do not see any "end" to the evolutionary
> > > > > process, if it even exists. It goes on forever. Are you
> > > > > honestly trying to make a case for some state of
> > > > > consciousness being its "end?"
> > > >
> > R: > Nope, that is why I put it "the end" in quotes. I am only
> > > > talking about the perception of one's primary identity
> > > > with something that is IN spacetime and therefore
> > > > undergoing evolution, through various states of
> > > > consciousness or whatever.
> > >
> > TB:> Something "you" left behind so long ago. We get it.
> >
> > R: Ha! Yeah, one of Us died. Nothing happened. Alert the media! :-)
> >
> > > > That gave way to the That which upholds all of them
> > > > simultaneously.
> > >
> > TB: So should we address you as "That" instead of "Rory?"
> > > Just wondering... :-)
> >
> > R: I am in a sense That functioning as a Rory, just as in a sense
you are That functioning as a Barry. We are the same Shit, different day
:-)
> >
> > > > > > R
> > > > > > ...it was all about the ego getting what it finally,
ultimately,
> > > > > > painfully needed,...
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free mal-spy-ware anti virus etc

[seventhray27]

I understand.  Sometimes I am trying to do things in a hurry,
(especially at work), and if I get stymied, I might try a different
route.  But we had AVG for many years and were quite satisfied.

I admit, "Free" is often the operative word for me in such cases.

I really don't understand either why people would pay for anti virus
protection when the free versions seem to work just as well.  At least
for what I'm doing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > Hey, what about Microsoft Security Essentials! Free,
> > and hasn't let me down in several years.
> >
> > I did AVG as well, and had no problems. But it always
> > seemed like they put extra steps in the way of getting
> > the free version after a while, and steered you to the
> > fee based program.
>
> I've never had any problem figuring out which
> button to click on their renewal screens. It's
> still free for me after a decade, and still as
> effective.
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What's the best programme you use ? The new pc wants
> > > > to install Norton and fill the pocket of that gun-
> > > > touting fellow, but surely there must be some free
> > > > and good stuff out there ?
> > > >
> > > > PS: must work with the WIN8, the worst blingbling
> > > > shoppingmall pretending to be an operating-system
> > > > on the planet !
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions you might have are very welcome !
> > >
> > > Nabby, I'm pretty sure you'll interpret this as
> > > me being paid by the CIA or the Dalai Lama or both
> > > to mislead you :-), but it's real free advice, and
> > > worth every penny.
> > >
> > > Since becoming tired of the intrusiveness and non-
> > > user-friendliness of Norton and the ineffectiveness
> > > of Symantec and other Big Name anti-virus programs,
> > > I tried the free version of AVG. I have been using
> > > it now for over a decade, and it has never failed
> > > to detect and shoot dead in its tracks any virus
> > > or spamware infestation that came my way.
> > >
> > > Factor into this that I am what Bhairitu calls an
> > > "eyepatch" kinda guy, and that I tend to hang out
> > > in cafes and thus often use non-secure Wifi sources,
> > > and that is high praise indeed. I *love* AVG. I
> > > suspect that its cost-money versions are even better
> > > than their free version, but I have never needed them.
> > >
> > > Don't know if they have a Win8 version, but I suspect
> > > they do.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:

> FWIW, I lived in Manhattan for more than 50 years (moved to
> NJ in 2002), and I was never seriously bothered by noise.
>
Sure.  Probably that's the experience of most people I suppose.  I read
this article, (I believe) in the NYT a couple weeks ago.

What I found kind of humorous was that they cited trucks delivering
fresh produce (maybe on the upper east or west side) as one of the
culprits.

And I suppose low level background noise is often desirable for many, in
that it can hide other, more bothersome noises.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review

[seventhray27]

Thanks.  That's just the kind of suggestion I was looking for. I'll
definitely include it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> Even if your travel plans don't require you to go there, don't miss
> Grand Central Terminal. I *love* that place. You can just find a
> bench or a bar seat overlooking the main plaza and just *watch*
> people, and it's one of the best zoos on earth.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
> >
> > Couple things come to mind.
> > I read an article recently that described excessive noise pollution
in
> > NYC, almost at all hours. I mean, I know that has been an issue,
even
> > 35 years ago when I was stranded there one night, and a woman took
me
> > in. I remember hearing all the noise some 12 stories below.
> > But it must have gotten quite a bit worse, which was the gist of
this
> > article. It wasn't so much the noise during normal hours, but rather
> > the early morning and late night noise.
> > On another note, I am going to Boston for a business vendor show in
a
> > week or so, and then meeting my daughter, and we are going to visit
> NYC
> > for late afternoon, evening one day and a full day following.
> > I didn't know if anyone had any suggestions on how to maximize the
> > "feel" on a short visit like this.
> > On the full day, I was thinking we might take a 40 minute boat ride
to
> > see the Statue of Liberty and make our way up, via walking, to the
> World
> > Trade Center sight, walk through China Town up to Times Square and
> then
> > taxi up to Rockefeller Center and Central Park and take in a few of
> the
> > shopping avenues.
> > But I'd love to hear any suggestions if anyone has any.
> > Thanks.
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > >
> > > I only visited NYC once, with some friends when I was 16. We
really
> > wanted to visit Greenwich Village and pretend to be like Mary. No,
not
> > the Virgin Mary though we were a bunch of good Catholic girls! Mary
as
> > in Peter, Paul and Mary. That was almost 50 years ago and I remember
> > loving the vibe there. Not sure how it would feel to me now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:55 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, turq, looks thought provoking and yes, revolutionary.
> > > > Reminds me of a Star Trek episode wherein the wealthy lived
> > > > on a cloud that floated above the planet where the poor
> > > > worked in mines whose toxic fumes lowered their intelligence.
> > >
> > > You mean Manhattan? Where the rich live in penthouses
> > > far above the rabble, and feed them lies that keep them
> > > pacified, like "Americans have the best lifestyle
> > > in the world" or "You live in a democracy?" :-)
> > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:18 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Perceptive film review
> > > >
> > > > Very. Hollywood, which despite the claims of conservatives
> > > > shies away from overtly liberal movies, has poured $100 million
> > > > into the production of a film that has been called by those who
> > > > have seen it "a futuristic version of Occupy Wall Street."
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free mal-spy-ware anti virus etc

[seventhray27]

Hey, what about Microsoft Security Essentials!  Free, and hasn't let me
down in several years.

I did AVG as well, and had no problems.  But it always seemed like they
put extra steps in the way of getting the free version after a while,
and steered you to the fee based program.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > What's the best programme you use ? The new pc wants
> > to install Norton and fill the pocket of that gun-
> > touting fellow, but surely there must be some free
> > and good stuff out there ?
> >
> > PS: must work with the WIN8, the worst blingbling
> > shoppingmall pretending to be an operating-system
> > on the planet !
> >
> > Any suggestions you might have are very welcome !
>
> Nabby, I'm pretty sure you'll interpret this as
> me being paid by the CIA or the Dalai Lama or both
> to mislead you :-), but it's real free advice, and
> worth every penny.
>
> Since becoming tired of the intrusiveness and non-
> user-friendliness of Norton and the ineffectiveness
> of Symantec and other Big Name anti-virus programs,
> I tried the free version of AVG. I have been using
> it now for over a decade, and it has never failed
> to detect and shoot dead in its tracks any virus
> or spamware infestation that came my way.
>
> Factor into this that I am what Bhairitu calls an
> "eyepatch" kinda guy, and that I tend to hang out
> in cafes and thus often use non-secure Wifi sources,
> and that is high praise indeed. I *love* AVG. I
> suspect that its cost-money versions are even better
> than their free version, but I have never needed them.
>
> Don't know if they have a Win8 version, but I suspect
> they do.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review

[seventhray27]

Couple things come to mind.
I read an article recently that described excessive noise pollution in
NYC, almost at all hours.  I mean, I know that has been an issue, even
35 years ago when I was stranded there one night, and a woman took me
in.  I remember hearing all the noise some 12 stories below.
But it must have gotten quite a bit worse, which was the gist of this
article.  It wasn't so much the noise during normal hours, but rather
the early morning and late night noise.
On another note, I am going to Boston for a business vendor show in a
week or so, and then meeting my daughter, and we are going to visit NYC
for late afternoon, evening one day and a full day following.
I didn't know if anyone had any suggestions on how to maximize the
"feel" on a short visit like this.
On the full day, I was thinking we might take a 40 minute boat ride to
see the Statue of Liberty and make our way up, via walking, to the World
Trade Center sight, walk through China Town up to Times Square and then
taxi up to  Rockefeller Center and Central Park and take in a few of the
shopping avenues.
But I'd love to hear any suggestions if anyone has any.
Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I only visited NYC once, with some friends when I was 16. We really
wanted to visit Greenwich Village and pretend to be like Mary. No, not
the Virgin Mary though we were a bunch of good Catholic girls! Mary as
in Peter, Paul and Mary. That was almost 50 years ago and I remember
loving the vibe there. Not sure how it would feel to me now.
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:55 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Perceptive film review
>
>
>
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, turq, looks thought provoking and yes, revolutionary.
> > Reminds me of a Star Trek episode wherein the wealthy lived
> > on a cloud that floated above the planet where the poor
> > worked in mines whose toxic fumes lowered their intelligence.
>
> You mean Manhattan? Where the rich live in penthouses
> far above the rabble, and feed them lies that keep them
> pacified, like "Americans have the best lifestyle
> in the world" or "You live in a democracy?"  :-)
>
> > 
> >  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:18 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Perceptive film review
> >
> > Very. Hollywood, which despite the claims of conservatives
> > shies away from overtly liberal movies, has poured $100 million
> > into the production of a film that has been called by those who
> > have seen it "a futuristic version of Occupy Wall Street."
> >
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

Thank you Share.

What's funny is that I so remember the belt in that pic with Three
Stooges, (well, that was my grand pawp, titling it as the "Four
Stooges).  That belt had that funny buckle that you thread thru and pull
tight.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> Steve, this is beautiful, IMHO could be in a calendar with such
photos. Also, I love the tree in your backyard. As for the photo of you
and Larry, Curly, etc. what can I say: yowza! those eyes, that smile,
definitely better than this one (-:
>
>
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:12 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
>
>
>
> Â
> and this was that one I said I'd like to post from the terminus of the
Difficult Campground trail in Colo.  It looks a little prettier now,
than I remember it then.
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > Such a handsome boy.  Fabulous.  Smile. ÂÂ
> >
> > Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when you
get time - won't even have to use up a post to do it!  (Yes, I'm
challenged in this way and well, many other ways but no need to go into
all that). I know how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an
alternative, can't figure out how to get pics directly in a yahoo email
that aren't already formatted for it off of another internet website.
 ÂÂ
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at
it.ÂÂ
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > >
> > > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂÂ
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Fri 09-Aug-13 00:15:05 UTC

[seventhray27]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgw_yprN_-w
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgw_yprN_-w>


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> I'll be leaving soon once the whole mob is back and takes over FFL in
only a few hours now. Send me e-mail notice if any more good first hand
reminiscence accounts of TM history get posted. You know, like from
someone who was actually there when something happened.
>
> It was FFL, "And, I don't care to stay here long".
> -Buck in the Dome
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Ravi! They are on to us but, in due time, we will have the full
> > use of FFL Yahoo Groups, soon, if I don't post out tonight.
> >
> > If I do, and can't continue for another week, I sent you the ammo;
> > You know, ;) all those burlesque costume, Victoria's Secret style
> > pictures without the facial recognition.
> > Stop blushing. I am serious! These FFLer's have no clue if I am
> > bullshitting or not. Hee hee. Shhh. (I'll bet you get at least 4
private
> > emails asking about the "pictures.")
> >
> > Hmm. Maybe we could work an auction to get the FFL Yahoo Group moved
to
> > a proper forum? Then we wouldn't be asked to cut and snip, snip,
snip
> > all the time.
> > There could be a "locked," section for those wishing to divulge in
> > Tantric sex and stuff. Maybe even a Tequilla sponsored section for
Dr.
> > Dumbass?
> > Buck could have his own bucking the system of the downed. Poor
fellow.
> > He really means well. WE NEED BUCK!
> > Turq could have his very own Amsterdam window shop. Full figure view
of
> > him typing in the nude (I don't see why not? He is a silly little
> > Euro-peon.) from a three legged wood stool. ;)
> >
> > In the movie, "Idiocracy," Upgrayedd is a pimp. Yeah. We could
Upgrayedd
> > this board, Kali Pimp's style. Some naysayer's may nay at the idea
and
> > scuff their feet and some other reactions too.
> >
> > This sweet salty lassi, may have just the plan to really get this
ball
> > rolling. It is our chance to hijack the hole and nip it in the bud,
Bud.
> > ET COME HOME, NOW!
> >
> > If anyone degrades this most brilliant diabolic plan, ask them, "Oh
> > Yeah? Which part of the Sama Veda
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ODd0UB6bY
> > talks about HIM HIM HIM
> > HO HO HO HUNG HUNG HUNG? " And see if they can continue to distrust
> > this SuperKalifragilelickstick coming to the age of enlightenment?
> > Darn, the link's content did not have the, "HIM, HIM, HIM, HO, HO,
HO,
> > HUNG, HUNG, HUNG on it. But my husband would get tugged on when that
> > part wood play in the resting time of that particular part of the
Sama
> > Veda. :)
> >
> > We have no time to waste, Ravi. Line them babies up and ready to
roll,
> > one at a time, all day long. Jerry Lewis Telethon Style!
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnPlJxet_ac
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqffk_pxGKQ
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I had so much more that I wanted to share with you.
> > >
> > > Right up yonder, Meditators away up yonder;
> > > Om, yes, my Lord, for I don't care to stay here long.
> > > "I'm glad that I am born to die,
> > > From grief and woe my soul shall fly,
> > > And I don't care to stay here long!"
> > > -Buck
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Om, comes The dilution; It is now less than 24 hours before our
> > civil leadership fails and mob rule on FFL. It is a sad ending.
> > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Fairfield Life Post Counter
> > > > > ===
> > > > > Start Date (UTC): 08/03/13 00:00:00
> > > > > End Date (UTC): 08/10/13 00:00:00
> > > > > 693 messages as of (UTC) 08/09/13 00:06:42
> > > > >
> > > > > 50 doctordumbass
> > > > > 50 Michael Jackson
> > > > > 47 obbajeeba
> > > > > 43 turquoiseb
> > > > > 41 Share Long
> > > > > 40 Ann
> > > > > 39 Richard J. Williams
> > > > > 39 Buck
> > > > > 36 nablusoss1008
> > > > > 36 Bhairitu
> > > > > 31 Alex S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

Not even 7:10, and I've already got a big laugh under my belt.  Good
start for the day!

(Hey, did I just say what I thought I did!)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Steve says, "I just politely decline."
>
> DECLINE. intransitive verb. 1. archaic: to turn from a straight course
: stray. 2. a: to slope downward : descend. b: to bend down
>
> Very sweet Steve. ;)
>
> Nice to see you have come out of the closet.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg
>
>
>
> There once was that one table of giggly men in Boone. who...
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ahh, that's sweet. (-: Actually I've been hit on gay men a good part
> > of my life. (well, not so much anymore). Maybe because at first
pass,
> > I don't become unhinged. I just politely decline.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > Indeed Steve is a very handsome guy, if I were gay my first
preference
> > on
> > > FFL would be Steve.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Such a handsome boy. Fabulous. Smile.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when
you
> > get
> > > > time - won't even have to use up a post to do it! (Yes, I'm
> > challenged in
> > > > this way and well, many other ways but no need to go into all
that).
> > I know
> > > > how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an alternative, can't
> > figure out
> > > > how to get pics directly in a yahoo email that aren't already
> > formatted for
> > > > it off of another internet website.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *From:* seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three
stooges
> > pic)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges
> > pic)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

I'm liking what you're putting down Rory, FWIW.  BTW, I'm 57 as well. 
Born in April.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
punditster@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ravi Chivukula:
> > > Indeed Steve is a very handsome guy, if I were
> > > gay my first preference on FFL would be Steve.
> > >
> > When he was only seven years old?
> >
> > Smut:
> >
> > A colloquial term for obscenity in general or
> > pornography in particular.
> >
> > > > Such a handsome boy. Fabulous. Smile.
> > > >
>
> Yeah, I really don't know about you, Richard, maybe you're only
kidding -- I surely hope so -- but if you're not, for the record I don't
consider "Lassi cum OM" to be obscene or pornographic. Neither is coming
home, or an orgasm into the thousand-petalled lotus, or lovemaking in
general, for that matter. Skilfully practiced, it is the purest bhakti,
bringing one into ecstatic union with wholeness and God/dess.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

How do you know Ravi doesn't know what I look like now?

It's called being a troll, Richard.  Unfortunately you have honed that
skill.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote:
>
>
>
> Ravi Chivukula:
> > Indeed Steve is a very handsome guy, if I were
> > gay my first preference on FFL would be Steve.
> >
> When he was only seven years old?
>
> Smut:
>
> A colloquial term for obscenity in general or
> pornography in particular.
>
> > > Such a handsome boy. Fabulous. Smile.
> > >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smut Count Fri 09-Aug-13 00:15:05 UTC

[seventhray27]

Showing some edge.  I like that!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
> I am 57. And I don't know, Richard; could it be most of them leave
because they get attacked for being smutty and childish when they
indulge in a bit of harmless wordplay with Tantric overtones? I can only
speak for myself, and I certainly didn't leave because anyone was
innocently exploring the delights of sexuality and spirituality here!
Far from it. But if such encourages you to cease posting, I suspect I
will be able to live with it.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
punditster@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > That's the ticket, Rory - attack the messenger. How
> > old are you now - going on thirteen? Why do you think
> > most of the other respondents don't post here anymore?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexting
> >
> > Rory:
> > > "Unless you become as little children, you shall
> > > not enter the kingdom of heaven"
> > >
> > Buck:
> > > > > Om, comes The dilution; It is now less than
> > > > > 24 hours before our civil leadership fails
> > > > > and mob rule on FFL. It is a sad ending.
> > > > >
> > > > Alex once said that alt.meditation.transcendental
> > > > over on Usenet was "the cesspool of the internet".
> > > >
> > > > He may have to amend that statement after today
> > > > - FFL is already a smut hole. Why do you think
> > > > most of the other respondents don't post here
> > > > anymore? Go figure.
> > > >
> > > > It's sometimes difficult to realize that these
> > > > are actually adults posting here, Buck.
> > > >
> > > > "Oh, I know you did, Alex; I was just having fun,
> > > > too...And of course, I meant "cum" in every sense,
> > > > particularly the Tantric One.
> > > >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/352360
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

Ahh, that's sweet.  (-:  Actually I've been hit on gay men a good part
of my life.  (well, not so much anymore).  Maybe because at first pass,
I don't become unhinged.  I just politely decline.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Indeed Steve is a very handsome guy, if I were gay my first preference
on
> FFL would be Steve.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Such a handsome boy. Fabulous. Smile.
> >
> > Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when you
get
> > time - won't even have to use up a post to do it! (Yes, I'm
challenged in
> > this way and well, many other ways but no need to go into all that).
I know
> > how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an alternative, can't
figure out
> > how to get pics directly in a yahoo email that aren't already
formatted for
> > it off of another internet website.
> >
> > --
> > *From:* seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
> >
> >
> > I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > >
> > > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

Thanks Ann,

Looking for a recent family one when everyone's together.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Oh thank you. I'm trying to find a decent family pic to send. Emily,
> > believe me whatever computer skills you may have, exceed mine. I
didn't
> > want to subscribe to a service like flikr. I finally sent the photos
> > from my phone to my facebook account, (which is in the name of a
pet,
> > and which I never use, but I like to have anyway) After trying an
> > failing to copy and paste the photos from other formats, it finally
> > worked this time. I'm kind of excited. I'll think I'll post a few
more.
>
> I loved those pictures. I use the same method when trying to post
personal pictures; I just take them to my FB page and bring them to FFL
from there. Anyway, what a handsome kid you were. Thanks for letting us
see those, they were GREAT!
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > >
> > > Such a handsome boy. Â Fabulous. Â Smile. Â
> > >
> > > Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when
you
> > get time - won't even have to use up a post to do it! Â (Yes, I'm
> > challenged in this way and well, many other ways but no need to go
into
> > all that). I know how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an
> > alternative, can't figure out how to get pics directly in a yahoo
email
> > that aren't already formatted for it off of another internet
website.
> > Â Â
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
> > pic)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at
it.Â
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

I had a friend, Sherman Katz (R.I.P.) who had a check made out to the
Three Stooges or one of them, and endorsed by the other two.  I coveted
that.  I never saw it, but he had a lot of other memorabilia.

Now, I can't decide, would I rather have that, or Maharishi's sandals!

I'd scrounge up a couple thousand for M's sandals, but Mark was holding
out for 50K or more, IIRC.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
> Damn dude! That's some pretty heavy darshan! I'd cherish that photo
for ever!
>
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
>
>
> Â
>
> I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.Â
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

and this was that one I said I'd like to post from the terminus of the
Difficult Campground trail in Colo.  It looks a little prettier now,
than I remember it then.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
>
> Such a handsome boy. Â Fabulous. Â Smile. Â
>
> Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when you
get time - won't even have to use up a post to do it! Â (Yes, I'm
challenged in this way and well, many other ways but no need to go into
all that). I know how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an
alternative, can't figure out how to get pics directly in a yahoo email
that aren't already formatted for it off of another internet website.
 Â
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
>
>
>
> Â
> I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.Â
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

this was the pic the other day when Barry posted his pics and others as
well.  looking into our backyard from the deck, (that's the neighbors
garage there on the left).  it was the backyard that made us buy the
house.

  [Photo: 2013-07-28_13-49-23_176]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
>
> Such a handsome boy. Â Fabulous. Â Smile. Â
>
> Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when you
get time - won't even have to use up a post to do it! Â (Yes, I'm
challenged in this way and well, many other ways but no need to go into
all that). I know how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an
alternative, can't figure out how to get pics directly in a yahoo email
that aren't already formatted for it off of another internet website.
 Â
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
>
>
>
> Â
> I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.Â
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

Oh thank you.  I'm trying to find a decent family pic to send.  Emily,
believe me whatever computer skills you may have, exceed mine.  I didn't
want to subscribe to a service like flikr.  I finally sent the photos
from my phone to my facebook account, (which is in the name of a pet,
and which I never use, but I like to have anyway)  After trying an
failing to copy and paste the photos from other formats, it finally
worked this time. I'm kind of excited.  I'll think I'll post a few more.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
>
> Such a handsome boy. Â Fabulous. Â Smile. Â
>
> Please let me know how you got these directly in the email when you
get time - won't even have to use up a post to do it! Â (Yes, I'm
challenged in this way and well, many other ways but no need to go into
all that). I know how to use a service (I use flikr), but as an
alternative, can't figure out how to get pics directly in a yahoo email
that aren't already formatted for it off of another internet website.
 Â
>
>
> 
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:42 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges
pic)
>
>
>
> Â
> I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.Â
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

And with Matt Dillon, and my sister.  (that little guy may be me.  not
sure)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
>
>
> I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

Grand Dad using his PR name, (similar to his real  last name)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
>
>
> I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

I'm in front of Larry, on the far left as you are looking at it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
>
> YES!!! WHAT A GREAT PICTURE!! NOW, WHICH BOY ARE YOU!
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:38 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)
>
>
>
> Â
>

[FairfieldLife] Did this come through? (three stooges pic)

[seventhray27]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another True Brother Story

[seventhray27]

Hey Michael,

I enjoyed that.

But it sort of begs the question:

Sister?

Mother?

I know in a reply to Share many months ago you relayed, what I felt, was
a very nice account of some parts of your childhood.

It sounds like once everyone reached the teenage years, things took a
turn.  Not a bad turn, just a different turn.

I will relate an experience of mine.

My oldest son and I always spent a lot of time together, doing all the
traditional things - throwing the ball around the yard.  Playing a round
of golf on occasion.  Having me shuttle him around places - soccer,
baseball.

The day he turned 16 and got his drivers license, he was pretty much
off.  Suddenly he entered a new part of his life without much warning.

I really don't expect him to return much to the fold until he is maybe
26 or so.  Now he is starting his third year of college, and he is
having to decide if he wants to study, or party.  The studying part had
its strongest piece his first semester.  Since then, he's been drifting
more in the other direction.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Another little story about brother. Like most siblings, we
> argued and fought a lot, with me on the losing end most of the time as
brother
> is four years older than me. Brother was also sometimes a sneaky sob.
>
> Our house had been built by our Uncle Mike and Aunt Helen,
> back in the very early fifties. The kitchen had black and white square
tiles
> and an art deco table. The legs were wooden, the body of the table
itself was
> some kind of metal that had a porcelain top that was somehow fused
onto the
> metal underneath. The porcelain was white and the metal black.
>
> Brother was not only sneaky, but irritating as well. One of
> his habits was to take a steel tablespoon, hold it by the handle and
beat the
> spoon repeatedly on the metal table top. It made a lot of noise and
was
> extremely annoying. I came home one day, walked into the house through
the
> garage, through the back door into the pantry and thus into the
kitchen. The
> Old Man was already in a rage and started raising hell at me.
>
> I had no idea what he was yelling about. He pointed his
> finger at my side of the table. The table was rectangular in shape and
was set
> flush against one wall. The Old Man sat in the white wooden chair
closest to
> the door into the den, with his back to his liquor cabinet, I sat
directly
> across from him with my back to the pantry door, and brother sat with
his back
> to the kitchen sink to my left and the Old Man's right.
>
> We always sat in those places and none other in the kitchen.
> The Old Man pointed out that a sizeable piece of the porcelain top of
the table
> on my side had been chipped off. I protested and proclaimed my
innocence. The Old
> Man really raised hell, because we rented the house from Uncle Mike
and Aunt
> Helen and the table was theirs. He cussed me out. Brother just sat and
smirked
> when the Old Man doled out the punishment, restriction or something, I
no
> longer remember.
>
> A couple days later I was eating a snack at my usual kitchen
> table spot, and I was idly looking at the spoon I had to eat my
cereal. For some
> reason I wanted to see what kind of noise I could make by framming the
spoon on
> the table, and as I did so, a tiny piece of porcelain chipped off the
metal.
>
> I was shocked as understanding dawned in me. BROTHER had
> been sitting at MY place when no one was there, damaged the table and
got me in
> trouble. Brother got home shortly and I confronted him in the kitchen.
>
> "You son of a bitch!"
>
> "What's wrong with you?"
>
> "You bastard, YOU'RE the one who tore up the table
> here, weren't you?"
>
> Brother grinned and said "Damn right! I was sitting at
> your place and frammed the hell out of the table, and it just chipped
off. I
> didn't mean to, but it just happened."
>
> "You better tell the Old Man what really
> happened!"
>
> "Fuck you motherfucker. I ain't tellin' him shit."
>
> We cussed each other for a while but he wouldn't agree to
> come clean. It did no good for me to tell the Old Man what happened
because he
> didn't believe me and cussed me for lying to him.
>
> As all this happened when I was still in high school, in the
> days prior to TM and any sort of Eastern knowledge for me. I had no
idea what
> karma was, but karma was taking care of itself without my cooperation.
Brother
> got his comeuppance and I am going to tell you how karma did it.
>
> A rare and much loved event would happen once in a blue moon
> at our house. The Old Man would announce mid-week "I'm gone be gone
> overnight this Saturday."
>
> "Where you going?" one of us would ask.
>
> The Old Man would always respond the same way. He would
> incline his head, look down his nose and sort of jut his chin at us at
the same
> time and say very emphatically "None of your gaaawwd damn
> business!"
>
> No matter how many times we asked, he would never tell us
> his destination, but we kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> I have no idea of Feste's real name, location or how much more
intelligent Feste is than Buck is (sorry, just couldn't resist that one
- I mean what CAN you expect from a not only failed and lapsed TM Sidha,
but one who has actually REVILED the Big Cheese)


Sort of mean spirited, don't you think?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[seventhray27]

Buck! Buck!  Wake up! Wake up!
You're having a bad dream.
You dreamed that Michael was outing someone by revealing confidential
information about them.
I know that would be disconcerting, but it was only a dream.  It's all
okay now.  Just sit up in bed for a moment and regain your bearings. 
Maybe get a glass of water.
Alls well Buck.  Everyone and everything is safe and sound.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Yeah right, typical FFL ad hominem 'kill the messenger' kind of
attack.
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Buck, I can only conclude that your years of High Dome numbers
obsession or perhaps mucking out all those cow and horse stalls have
driven you around the bend.
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea of Feste's real name, location or how much more
intelligent Feste is than Buck is (sorry, just couldn't resist that one
-
> > > > If Feste thinks I said or did something improper where he is
concerned, I will apologize publicly to Feste, who I am sure feels all
warm and fuzzy that you are defending Feste's honor.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Dear MJ, That don't matter and should get you no sympathy. We have
rules here. Were I King of FFL I would simply enforce the rules.
> > -Buck
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Buck
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 8:14 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting
Limit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's see if Buck has the integrity to back up his claim. 
Talk about a
> > > > > serious offense: making an accusation against someone that you
> > > > > won't/can't back up.  Buck has never been one to engage in
much of a
> > > > > back and forth dialog.  He's pretty much a drive by poster.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Son, Read MJ's recent post about Feste.  Feste has scrupulously
guarded his/her identity here for years to protect him/her and then MJ
bla-blahs on about personal things about Feste.  Loose lips sink ships
in this community.  People live here with a lot of fear for their
relationship with larger things around the TM movement like employment,
housing, access, grants, even Dome badges.   You might not care but to
some people their anonymity in posting is important.Blabbing on
about someone like MJ did with Feste, that's a sin against the FFL
guidelines of the first degree.  A strong hand of rebuke is in order.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > >
> > > > > I'm going to try to figure out how to get those pictures to
show up.
> > > > > Not sure what the problem is.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > There rightly are propriety rules about pornography on this
list.
> > > >
>
> 7Ray, We got rules against pornography here.
>
> > > > > I'll try the image sharing site Alex recommended.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Umm, if you wouldn't mind telling me who or what I did wrong
according
> > > > > to you - I don't recall revealing personal information about
anyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:48 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present -
Posting Limit
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Were I king of FFL I'd make some changes around here. Like
did you see
> > > > > MJ earlier today revealing some personal information about an
anonymous
> > > > > FFL poster here. Were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[seventhray27]

Son, the judge just threw out your case for lack of evidence.  Now when
you slander someone, which could easily be argued that this is what you
did - that would be a serious accusation.

I thought regular practice developed a better sense of discrimination. 
You know appreciating the mantra at finer and finer levels.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Let's see if Buck has the integrity to back up his claim. Talk about
a
> > serious offense: making an accusation against someone that you
> > won't/can't back up. Buck has never been one to engage in much of a
> > back and forth dialog. He's pretty much a drive by poster.
> >
>
> Son, Read MJ's recent post about Feste. Feste has scrupulously guarded
his/her identity here for years to protect him/her and then MJ bla-blahs
on about personal things about Feste. Loose lips sink ships in this
community. People live here with a lot of fear for their relationship
with larger things around the TM movement like employment, housing,
access, grants, even Dome badges. You might not care but to some people
their anonymity in posting is important. Blabbing on about someone like
MJ did with Feste, that's a sin against the FFL guidelines of the first
degree. A strong hand of rebuke is in order.
> -Buck in the Dome
>
>
> > I'm going to try to figure out how to get those pictures to show up.
> > Not sure what the problem is.
> >
>
> There rightly are propriety rules about pornography on this list.
>
>
> > I'll try the image sharing site Alex recommended.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > Umm, if you wouldn't mind telling me who or what I did wrong
according
> > to you - I don't recall revealing personal information about anyone.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:48 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting
Limit
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > Were I king of FFL I'd make some changes around here. Like did you
see
> > MJ earlier today revealing some personal information about an
anonymous
> > FFL poster here. Were I King, MJ would be out of here on his ear for
> > serious felony against the guidelines. That guy has fouled and had
way
> > more than three strikes here. I'd clean up the roster real quick.
-Buck
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some seniority too, since post #67, September 28, 2001,
is
> > mine (under a different handle). I've been here ever since.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No it should go to a mediator meditator. It is time for:
> > > > !Return of Anti-Blasphemy Law and Order! It's time is nigh. It
will
> > be a dawn of a New FFL Life, an age of Enlightenment on FFL. In that
new
> > day on FFL all will be meditators and the wolf and the lamb will
live
> > together; the leopard will lie down with the baby goat. The calf and
the
> > yearling will be safe with the lion, and a little child [Buck] will
lead
> > them all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is what we can expect X 10, perhaps even more now
with
> > the "generous" gift from Rick to Alex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If Alex doesn't like it, why not let Buck do the
moderating ?
> > :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, in terms of people still here who posted early on,
Dick
> > Mays has top seniority at post #5, followed closely by Buck at #6.
> > Buck's been chomping at the bit to whip this place into accord with
> > Natural Law, so why not put him in charge of the whole thing? To put
it
> > another way, what would Maharishi do? Maharishi would chose Buck.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[seventhray27]

Let's see if Buck has the integrity to back up his claim.  Talk about a
serious offense: making an accusation against someone that you
won't/can't back up.  Buck has never been one to engage in much of a
back and forth dialog.  He's pretty much a drive by poster.

I'm going to try to figure out how to get those pictures to show up. 
Not sure what the problem is.

I'll try the image sharing site Alex recommended.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Umm, if you wouldn't mind telling me who or what I did wrong according
to you - I don't recall revealing personal information about anyone.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit
>
>
>
> Â
>
> Were I king of FFL I'd make some changes around here. Like did you see
MJ earlier today revealing some personal information about an anonymous
FFL poster here. Were I King, MJ would be out of here on his ear for
serious felony against the guidelines. That guy has fouled and had way
more than three strikes here. I'd clean up the roster real quick. -Buck
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > >
> > > I have some seniority too, since post #67, September 28, 2001, is
mine (under a different handle). I've been here ever since.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No it should go to a mediator meditator. It is time for:
> > !Return of Anti-Blasphemy Law and Order! It's time is nigh. It will
be a dawn of a New FFL Life, an age of Enlightenment on FFL. In that new
day on FFL all will be meditators and the wolf and the lamb will live
together; the leopard will lie down with the baby goat. The calf and the
yearling will be safe with the lion, and a little child [Buck] will lead
them all.
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is what we can expect X 10, perhaps even more now with
the "generous" gift from Rick to Alex.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Alex doesn't like it, why not let Buck do the moderating ?
:-)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, in terms of people still here who posted early on, Dick
Mays has top seniority at post #5, followed closely by Buck at #6.
Buck's been chomping at the bit to whip this place into accord with
Natural Law, so why not put him in charge of the whole thing? To put it
another way, what would Maharishi do? Maharishi would chose Buck.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: all in a day's work: police report from Fairfield today

[seventhray27]

priceless!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Better get on down... to ABC!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5aBryfanU4
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" feste37@ wrote:
> >
> > 8/3 Received Report from Josie Hanes Design for a penis painted on
the window, 3rd time this has happened
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

I mean Larry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> oh, that's me in front of Curly
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OMG - if you have a pic of yourself with the Three Stooges you
are
> > my
> > > hero. Which set was it Moe, Larry and which other Stooge?  Curly.
> > I'll
> > > take a picture of it and post it.
> >
> >   [2013-08-05_09-52-12_135.jpg]
> >   [2013-08-05_15-08-45_955.jpg]
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

oh, that's me in front of Curly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > OMG - if you have a pic of yourself with the Three Stooges you are
> my
> > hero. Which set was it Moe, Larry and which other Stooge?  Curly.
> I'll
> > take a picture of it and post it.
>
>   [2013-08-05_09-52-12_135.jpg]
>   [2013-08-05_15-08-45_955.jpg]
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > OMG - if you have a pic of yourself with the Three Stooges you are
my
> hero. Which set was it Moe, Larry and which other Stooge?  Curly. 
I'll
> take a picture of it and post it.

  [2013-08-05_09-52-12_135.jpg]
  [2013-08-05_15-08-45_955.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > OMG - if you have a pic of yourself with the Three Stooges you are
my
> hero. Which set was it Moe, Larry and which other Stooge?  Curly. 
I'll
> take a picture of it and post it.

  [2013-08-05_09-52-12_135.jpg]
  [Steve Fixed Pic.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

 [2013-08-05_09-54-47_880.jpg]

  [2013-08-05_09-53-29_362.jpg]


Couple things.  Turns out it wasn't the Lone Ranger, but Matt Dillon. 
That was my sister in that picture.  I may be have been a little squirt
next to her.
My grandpa had a PR name (seen here) which was similar, but not the same
as his actual last name.
A couple other pictures coming shortly.


>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Bhahahahahahahahaa!
>
> "Consciousness-base excessive drinking"
>
> It is worse when a Jyotish Pandit does that, then you get all sorts of
monsters coming out of the closet!
> Is there an Indian whiskey named after these enlightening features?
No, but there should be.  Shaktipat Bourbon. " Made with Pure Filtered
Water from the Ganga"  Well, maybe not.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
> >
> > Too bad your old man didn't learn TM, 'cuz then he could have
evolved to consciousness-base excessive drinking, like I did. None of
that crude, Kaliyugan gulping and chasers nonsense. Those artisans at
the distillery went to a lot of trouble making that fine whiskey, and
the refined way to drink excessive quantities of it is to sip it,
straight up or on the rocks, savoring every drop of the liquid
enlightenment.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

Great story.  See, in the cosmic view of things, you are a boon to your
Old Man, wherever he is!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Every word of what I wrote was true. including most of the
conversations. I appear to have what some would call a partial eidetic
memory. It appears to be verbal rather than spatial. I can remember
conversations people had many years ago, but its not 100%. And it
doesn't hold with visual images. And yes I know some folks say there is
not such thing as eidetic memory. Big deal. Some say that TM will lead
to enlightenment too, so as willytex says go figger!
>
> And I assure you, when we realized our Gatorade was no longer
sacrosanct, the world DID darken before our eyes.
>
> I will tell you another very short tale from my life at that time. My
brother who in his own way was just as off beat as the Old Man would
always sleep naked, and his habit was, no matter how early or late it
was when he decided to go to bed, he would suddenly dsicover, after he
had taken off his clothes, that he was thirsty and needed a drink of
water, or milk or chocolate milk.
>
> He deemed it unnecessary to put on any clothing to get a drink and so
would walk from his bedroom, through the Old Man's bedroom and past the
Old Man who would be in his cups, sitting in the recliner, usually with
an unfiltered Chesterfield King in his hand. When the Old Man would
notice brother walking nonchalantly past him with no clothes on, the Old
Man would go ballistic.
>
> "Git some drawers on!"
>
> "I don't wear drawers!"
>
> "Goddamn it! I mean it! Git some drawers on! Runnin' around bare assed
isn't funny!"
>
> We had a wide kitchen window right over the sink and when brother
stood naked in front of the refrigerator, theoretically at least the
lady Mrs. Carter that lived behind us could see him if she was looking
out her back window.
>
> Brother would take his time getting his milk or whatever he was
drinking while keeping up a running banter with the Old Man, who would
be getting madder and madder and would eventually threaten to "stomp
your ass if you don't get some drawers on."
>
> One night brother's response was to walk back into the den and stand
about 5 feet in front of the Old Man where started doing jumping jacks
with his tackle flapping. The Old Man really went ballistic and came up
out of his recliner like Batman going after the Joker. Brother turned
tail and ran through the house. Whether because the Old Man was tired,
or too drunk he chose not to pursue but followed him only with curse
words and threats.
>
> This began a pattern that would persist until brother moved out a year
or so later. It didn't happen every night or even every week, but at
least a couple times a month the Old Man would go into a rage over
brother "walkin' around bare assed" and would be treated to nekkid
jumpin' jacks before brother would run off laughing.
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:59 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray
>
>
>
> Â
> Great story MJ.Â
>
> My favorite part:
>
> "The world darkened before our eyes when we heard
> Â him telling one of his friends on the phone he had run out of
soda and discovered
> Â Gatorade made a "pretty fair chaser."Â
>
> Damn, but I can't help but feel that the TM phase of your life was an
enormous plus.
>
> And I also can't help but feel that you've arrived at a pretty good
place with everything that's happened since.
>
> And, I confess, that I do keep thinking that your anti TM tirades are
going to run their course.
>
> At the same time, I sort of hope they don't, cuz I do enjoy your
participation here!
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Here is a slightly TM story, and it happens to be true.
> >
> > I have said before here on FFL that my Old Man did not like
> > my doing TM. And in fact when I first told him I was going to learn,
he told me
> > he thought it might be some kind of scam. Turns out he was right!
But I didn't
> > have enough sense to believe him then.
> >
> > At the time this story unfolds, I was TOTALLY into TM and
> > was going off for my second or third residence course. The Old Man
thought he
> > would screw me up by denying me use of the family car, but I asked
my mother
> > and step father if I could borrow one of their vehicles, and they
kindly said
> > yes. I drove to that residence course in a metallic gold 1967
Pontiac GTO. Man,
> > that was a fine ride!
> >
> > I enj

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Seventh Ray

[seventhray27]

Great story MJ.
My favorite part:
"The world darkened before our eyes when we heard him telling one of his
friends on the phone he had run out of soda and discovered
  Gatorade made a "pretty fair chaser."
Damn, but I can't help but feel that the TM phase of your life was an
enormous plus.
And I also can't help but feel that you've arrived at a pretty good
place with everything that's happened since.
And, I confess, that I do keep thinking that your anti TM tirades are
going to run their course.
At the same time, I sort of hope they don't, cuz I do enjoy your
participation here!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Here is a slightly TM story, and it happens to be true.
>
> I have said before here on FFL that my Old Man did not like
> my doing TM. And in fact when I first told him I was going to learn,
he told me
> he thought it might be some kind of scam. Turns out he was right! But
I didn't
> have enough sense to believe him then.
>
> At the time this story unfolds, I was TOTALLY into TM and
> was going off for my second or third residence course. The Old Man
thought he
> would screw me up by denying me use of the family car, but I asked my
mother
> and step father if I could borrow one of their vehicles, and they
kindly said
> yes. I drove to that residence course in a metallic gold 1967 Pontiac
GTO. Man,
> that was a fine ride!
>
> I enjoyed the course and was all mellow and rounded out and
> had a leisurely two and a half hour drive from John's Island (off the
coast of
> South Carolina) to get back home. I figured the Old Man would give me
a certain
> ration of crap because I had spent the week-end "dribbling and
> drooling" on myself, his words for practicing TM, and because it was
> Sunday, which meant he would be drunk.
>
> The Old Man favored bourbon almost exclusively and not just
> any bourbon, but real sho 'nuff high class bourbon like Ancient Age,
or if he
> was in a spending mood, Ancient, Ancient Age (that there is ten year
old
> bourbon). Occasionally he would pick up a bottle of Old Grand Dad (a
high rye
> bourbon, bottled in bond) or Old Charter.
>
> Just to give you an idea of his drinking, after he and my
> mother divorced, the Old Man started drinking more frequently, and he
never
> mixed a drink at home. The kitchen was just off the den where our big
color tv
> sat. From his Lazy Boy recliner, all he had to do was stand up, turn
not quite
> a hundred eighty degrees as he stepped to the left, walk five or six
steps and
> he was in the kitchen. Face to the right, and he was looking at the
> refrigerator.
>
>
> Just to the right of the refrigerator was a cabinet. The lower
> cabinet had a counter top and a double door cabinet underneath where
he kept
> his likker supply. If you opened the door, you would see pints, quarts
(or
> rather fifths) and a few half pints. He never threw the bottles away,
but would
> drink them down till there was about half an inch in them, then open a
new
> bottle. Very occasionally he would pull all the nearly empty bottles
out of the
> cabinet, put them on the counter, get a funnel and pour the dregs of
the nearly
> empty bottles all into one bottle, then discard the now truly empty
bottles.
>
> The Old Man generally got his whiskey from the C. R. Koon
> Liquor store, known as one of the local proverbial "red dot stores,"
but
> he was not above obtaining a half pint from time to time from one of
the local
> bootleggers.
>
> For those of you who don't know, a man who makes illegal liquor is
> a moonshiner, and a guy who buys liquor in bulk and illegally re-sells
it at an
> exorbitant price is a bootlegger, and my Old Man knew most of the
bootleggers
> in the area, at least the white ones. I only bought from a bootlegger
once when
> I was about seventeen, from a black woman that lived way out in the
woods but
> only because one of my friends, Eddie, knew her and drove a bunch of
us out
> there. Visiting bootleggers was not a normal activity for me.
>
> At any rate, the Old Man drank his likker every day, and I
> am going to tell you how he drank it. The first hint we had that the
Old Man
> was going to take his first drink of the night came when you would
hear the
> sound of that double door cabinet being opened, then closed and the
plunk of a
> liquor bottle being placed on the counter. Next would come the shhhook
sound of
> the refrigerator door opening, then closing, closely followed by
another plunk
> of the quart glass bottle of Coke, Seven Up or whatever soda us kids
had
> bought. He used any and all of them as a chaser.
>
> The next sound would be the removal of the caps on both the
> liquor bottle and the Coke or Sprite bottle. Assuming both caps were
aluminum,
> you would think they would sound the same, but in fact the sound of a
metal cap
> being unscrewed from a bottle of bourbon and a soft drink bottle were
very
> different and very distinctive.
>
> Then the Old Man would take a drink of soda, swallow it,
> take a swi

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM

[seventhray27]

You saw Hiranyagarba?

Your dad asked you how he could learn to meditate?

You went to the local center and volunteered to put up posters?

Out with it boy!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Seventh Ray, I am just about to finish an account of something that
happened to me just after a residence course, just for your enjoyment.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:09 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
>
>
>
> Â
> This sounds like a proclamation.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> >
> > Evidently you have trouble with reading comprehension, or perhaps
the concept I am expressing is too advanced for you. Given the utter
revilement you have expressed towards me for things I have said about
the Old Faker (marshy) it is not a stretch to call you his sycophant.
> >
> > As to the other remark, I did not nor have I ever accused you of
saying that you believe marshy's teachings run true.
> >Â
> Where as: Â What I said was that marshy's teachings run true,
meaning that while he espoused all this alignment with the laws of
nature, spontaneous right action and enlightenment crap, what actually
comes out of TM is more often the behavior of elitism, arrogance, taking
license to break laws when convenient, lying, cheating and stealing.
> >
> Where as: Thus, the teachings are running true, meaning that the
teachings espouse good values and energy yet they actually produce
somethings crappy.
> >Â
> Where as: Â Thus you, who in the past have said how great marshy is
and how good TM is, then revile people like one of those ignorant
toothless folk Ravi sometimes mentions.
> >Â
> Where as:Â So one would think that if TM and Marshy's teaching are
real sho nuff good and you did 'em, they would produce speech and
writing from you worthy of world peace, not jailhouse lingo. Thus we see
in your writing and revilement of those who don't care for marshy and
his con games that the TM teachings are running according to their true
nature.
> Where is the...
> Be It Resolved That...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: feste37 feste37@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 8:58 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > One of your many problems is that you ascribe to people things they
have never said and positions they do not hold. I don't do TM, for a
start, although I have done in the past. Nor have I ever said of MMY
that "his teachings always run true," although your post is so badly
written that it's hard to know whether you are trying to attribute that
to me or not.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> > >
> > > The beautiful, peaceful energy of a longtime TM meditator and
sycophant of marshy - his teachings always run true, see how much world
peace energy feste manifests?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: feste37 feste37@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:51 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂÂ
> > > I am not your fucking uncle. Nor is my name Fester. It is feste.
Understand?
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Uncle Fester,
> > > > A parody. A Hypothetical thought. That is all I will apologize
for. I mean no disrespect to David Lynch, or the MA in Film at MUM.
> > > > The purpose of this post was to show all media, film, music,
book, etc., has to have freedom for expression.
> > > > I do feel freedom of expression will be hindered in the
environment for which I did the parody of.
> > > > I think the school has a good function. I think certain programs
are not meant to be matched with idealism.
> > > > Art must be able to express itself. My writing the below is art.
> > > > I will consider your opinion of what I wrote and the category
you put me in as ART.
> > > >
> > > > Vulgar is in the eyes of the beholder. :)
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, there are always people willi

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM

[seventhray27]

This sounds like a proclamation.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Evidently you have trouble with reading comprehension, or perhaps the
concept I am expressing is too advanced for you. Given the utter
revilement you have expressed towards me for things I have said about
the Old Faker (marshy) it is not a stretch to call you his sycophant.
>
> As to the other remark, I did not nor have I ever accused you of
saying that you believe marshy's teachings run true.
>
Where as:  What I said was that marshy's teachings run true, meaning
that while he espoused all this alignment with the laws of nature,
spontaneous right action and enlightenment crap, what actually comes out
of TM is more often the behavior of elitism, arrogance, taking license
to break laws when convenient, lying, cheating and stealing.
>
Where as: Thus, the teachings are running true, meaning that the
teachings espouse good values and energy yet they actually produce
somethings crappy.
>
Where as:  Thus you, who in the past have said how great marshy is and
how good TM is, then revile people like one of those ignorant toothless
folk Ravi sometimes mentions.
>
Where as: So one would think that if TM and Marshy's teaching are real
sho nuff good and you did 'em, they would produce speech and writing
from you worthy of world peace, not jailhouse lingo. Thus we see in your
writing and revilement of those who don't care for marshy and his con
games that the TM teachings are running according to their true nature.

Where is the...

Be It Resolved That...

>
>
>
>
> 
> From: feste37 feste37@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 8:58 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
>
>
>
> Â
> One of your many problems is that you ascribe to people things they
have never said and positions they do not hold. I don't do TM, for a
start, although I have done in the past. Nor have I ever said of MMY
that "his teachings always run true," although your post is so badly
written that it's hard to know whether you are trying to attribute that
to me or not.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> >
> > The beautiful, peaceful energy of a longtime TM meditator and
sycophant of marshy - his teachings always run true, see how much world
peace energy feste manifests?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: feste37 feste37@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:51 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > I am not your fucking uncle. Nor is my name Fester. It is feste.
Understand?
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Uncle Fester,
> > > A parody. A Hypothetical thought. That is all I will apologize
for. I mean no disrespect to David Lynch, or the MA in Film at MUM.
> > > The purpose of this post was to show all media, film, music, book,
etc., has to have freedom for expression.
> > > I do feel freedom of expression will be hindered in the
environment for which I did the parody of.
> > > I think the school has a good function. I think certain programs
are not meant to be matched with idealism.
> > > Art must be able to express itself. My writing the below is art.
> > > I will consider your opinion of what I wrote and the category you
put me in as ART.
> > >
> > > Vulgar is in the eyes of the beholder. :)
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course, there are always people willing to denigrate those
who try to create something valuable. You appear to have joined their
camp -- just one more addition to the vulgar and the stupid who seem to
have taken over this board.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No money? Just sign here and join the millions of students who
have outstanding student loans, part of the student loan bubble that is
bound to burst at the, well sometime. No need to worry, you will have
access to the finest equipment, meet interesting people and known film
makers! You too, can dream about being a famous film maker and list your
name on imdb.com to make sure your future contacts are always seeing
your work!
> > > > > Get an opportunity to work on exciting projects with these
famous film makers. You too, can be a life intern and sign your creative
rights away, your brilliant creative mind and creations to get a chance
to intern with your most favorite film makers!
> > > > > Non disclosure may reverse, if you so happen to be a bit more
brilliant than the legal team and creative company you intern with. If
you are beautiful or handsome and smart too, all those rights will most
certainly be considered.
> > > > > Join us now, Heaven on Earth and an MA in Film! Will you
please take a listen to one of our most cherished founder's of this
idea, David

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM

[seventhray27]

I think this is what MJ calls "hyperbole" or "allusion".  He held a
class on that last week.  You may have missed it.

I mean, to the rest of the world, it looks like he just likes to see
things in one way, no matter what the facts may be, but we were
corrected on this misconception.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
>
> One of your many problems is that you ascribe to people things they
have never said and positions they do not hold. I don't do TM, for a
start, although I have done in the past. Nor have I ever said of MMY
that "his teachings always run true," although your post is so badly
written that it's hard to know whether you are trying to attribute that
to me or not.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> >
> > The beautiful, peaceful energy of a longtime TM meditator and
sycophant of marshy - his teachings always run true, see how much world
peace energy feste manifests?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: feste37 feste37@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:51 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I am not your fucking uncle. Nor is my name Fester. It is feste.
Understand?
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Uncle Fester,
> > > A parody. A Hypothetical thought. That is all I will apologize
for. I mean no disrespect to David Lynch, or the MA in Film at MUM.
> > > The purpose of this post was to show all media, film, music, book,
etc., has to have freedom for expression.
> > > I do feel freedom of expression will be hindered in the
environment for which I did the parody of.
> > > I think the school has a good function. I think certain programs
are not meant to be matched with idealism.
> > > Art must be able to express itself. My writing the below is art.
> > > I will consider your opinion of what I wrote and the category you
put me in as ART.
> > >
> > > Vulgar is in the eyes of the beholder. :)
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course, there are always people willing to denigrate those
who try to create something valuable. You appear to have joined their
camp -- just one more addition to the vulgar and the stupid who seem to
have taken over this board.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No money? Just sign here and join the millions of students who
have outstanding student loans, part of the student loan bubble that is
bound to burst at the, well sometime. No need to worry, you will have
access to the finest equipment, meet interesting people and known film
makers! You too, can dream about being a famous film maker and list your
name on imdb.com to make sure your future contacts are always seeing
your work!
> > > > > Get an opportunity to work on exciting projects with these
famous film makers. You too, can be a life intern and sign your creative
rights away, your brilliant creative mind and creations to get a chance
to intern with your most favorite film makers!
> > > > > Non disclosure may reverse, if you so happen to be a bit more
brilliant than the legal team and creative company you intern with. If
you are beautiful or handsome and smart too, all those rights will most
certainly be considered.
> > > > > Join us now, Heaven on Earth and an MA in Film! Will you
please take a listen to one of our most cherished founder's of this
idea, David Lynch. You just might get a chance to intern, right away!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3FAy-JTAg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is sooo funny!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 6:09 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÂÂ
> > > > > > I'll slow down here. I am too picky about who goes down in
the hole... with me, almost, most of the time. ;)
> > > > > > Thanks for the offer to toss on down. I will hold out at
your suggestion, Share. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Better get back to the subject matter as to not confuse
Richard Williams, Go Figure man, whichever he is. Go figure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This film school idea is only going to work for a short
time. You have Rahu aspecting Guru this month and well, icky and scary
don't work well with heaven on earth. (Rahu and Guru)
> > > > > > Film study on campus will exist in this contrast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmIRbmWq_w and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVFq8q5PRX8 and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efGxq2_zEKI to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knL5zY1LRqw then ba

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM

[seventhray27]

Thank you for those reflections.  He has always been one of my favorite
poets as well.  This poem, the one below, was one I chose for a high
school English assignment, and have always remembered it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
>
> Lovely poem. He wrote this when he was quite young. When I was in my
twenties (which someone on this board might like to note was not ALL
that long ago), Dylan Thomas was my favorite poet. I would listen to
recordings of him reading his own work. I had several LPs and would play
them over and over and over. I knew dozens of his poems off by heart
just by listening to them so many times, and I remember some of them to
this day. Dylan was in love with the sound of words, and meaning was
secondary. This one though does have a meaning and I like it: the unity
of all life and the inevitable passage of time. I have always loved the
line "time has ticked a heaven around the stars." It was a tragedy that
he drank himself to death. "Fern Hill" is a lovely poem too, as is "Poem
in October," "Poem on His Birthday" and many more. His later poems are
more lucid than the early ones. Listen to him on YouTube.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The force that through the green fuse drives the flower
> > Drives my green age; that blasts the roots of trees
> > Is my destroyer.
> > And I am dumb to tell the crooked rose
> > My youth is bent by the same wintry fever.
> >
> > The force that drives the water through the rocks
> > Drives my red blood; that dries the mouthing streams
> > Turns mine to wax.
> > And I am dumb to mouth unto my veins
> > How at the mountain spring the same mouth sucks.
> >
> > The hand that whirls the water in the pool
> > Stirs the quicksand; that ropes the blowing wind
> > Hauls my shroud sail.
> > And I am dumb to tell the hanging man
> > How of my clay is made the hangman's lime.
> >
> > The lips of time leech to the fountain head;
> > Love drips and gathers, but the fallen blood
> > Shall calm her sores.
> > And I am dumb to tell a weather's wind
> > How time has ticked a heaven round the stars.
> >
> > And I am dumb to tell the lover's tomb
> > How at my sheet goes the same crooked worm.
> >
> > Dylan Thomas
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In my head, you are in my bed,
> > > heaven will grant me an even score.
> > > Sing the praise of men who age
> > > of golden hair and war!
> > > The time of wisdom makes the love,
> > > growth, forevermore.
> > > Feste be with me, Feste adore, something not lost
> > > until we reach the door.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" feste37@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Then come kiss me, sweet and twenty.
> > > > Youth's a stuff will not endure.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > uncle  
> > > > > Older fool who is inflamed becomes, Fester. Uncle Fester.
> > > > > un·cle [uhng-kuhl]
> > > > > 1. a brother of one's father or mother. 2. an aunt's husband.
3. a
> > > > > familiar title or term of address for any elderly man. 4.
Slang. a
> > > > > pawnbroker. 5. ( initial capital letter ) Informal. Uncle Sam.
> > > > >
> > > > > cut and paste from
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/uncle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now the name Fester has become real:
> > > > > http://thesaurus.com/browse/fester
> > > > > Fester v. Intensify;become inflamed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, I will going back to referring you as
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feste
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Feste, the fool. Feste, the clown? Naw.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like Uncle Fester better. [:*]
> > > > >
> > > > > -Obba one can no be
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not your fuc

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: MA in FILM

[seventhray27]

The force that through the green fuse drives the flower
Drives my green age; that blasts the roots of trees
Is my destroyer.
And I am dumb to tell the crooked rose
My youth is bent by the same wintry fever.

The force that drives the water through the rocks
Drives my red blood; that dries the mouthing streams
Turns mine to wax.
And I am dumb to mouth unto my veins
How at the mountain spring the same mouth sucks.

The hand that whirls the water in the pool
Stirs the quicksand; that ropes the blowing wind
Hauls my shroud sail.
And I am dumb to tell the hanging man
How of my clay is made the hangman's lime.

The lips of time leech to the fountain head;
Love drips and gathers, but the fallen blood
Shall calm her sores.
And I am dumb to tell a weather's wind
How time has ticked a heaven round the stars.

And I am dumb to tell the lover's tomb
How at my sheet goes the same crooked worm.

Dylan Thomas


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
>
> In my head, you are in my bed,
> heaven will grant me an even score.
> Sing the praise of men who age
> of golden hair and war!
> The time of wisdom makes the love,
> growth, forevermore.
> Feste be with me, Feste adore, something not lost
> until we reach the door.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" feste37@ wrote:
> >
> > Then come kiss me, sweet and twenty.
> > Youth's a stuff will not endure.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > uncle  
> > > Older fool who is inflamed becomes, Fester. Uncle Fester.
> > > un·cle [uhng-kuhl]
> > > 1. a brother of one's father or mother. 2. an aunt's husband. 3. a
> > > familiar title or term of address for any elderly man. 4. Slang. a
> > > pawnbroker. 5. ( initial capital letter ) Informal. Uncle Sam.
> > >
> > > cut and paste from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/uncle
> > >
> > >
> > > Now the name Fester has become real:
> > > http://thesaurus.com/browse/fester
> > > Fester v. Intensify;become inflamed
> > >
> > >
> > > Okay, I will going back to referring you as
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feste
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Feste, the fool. Feste, the clown? Naw.
> > >
> > > I like Uncle Fester better. [:*]
> > >
> > > -Obba one can no be
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not your fucking uncle. Nor is my name Fester. It is feste.
> > > Understand?
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Uncle Fester,
> > > > > A parody. A Hypothetical thought. That is all I will apologize
for.
> > > I mean no disrespect to David Lynch, or the MA in Film at MUM.
> > > > > The purpose of this post was to show all media, film, music,
book,
> > > etc., has to have freedom for expression.
> > > > > I do feel freedom of expression will be hindered in the
environment
> > > for which I did the parody of.
> > > > > I think the school has a good function. I think certain
programs are
> > > not meant to be matched with idealism.
> > > > > Art must be able to express itself. My writing the below is
art.
> > > > > I will consider your opinion of what I wrote and the category
you
> > > put me in as ART.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vulgar is in the eyes of the beholder. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, there are always people willing to denigrate
those who
> > > try to create something valuable. You appear to have joined their
camp
> > > -- just one more addition to the vulgar and the stupid who seem to
have
> > > taken over this board.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No money? Just sign here and join the millions of students
who
> > > have outstanding student loans, part of the student loan bubble
that is
> > > bound to burst at the, well sometime. No need to worry, you will
have
> > > access to the finest equipment, meet interesting people and known
film
> > > makers! You too, can dream about being a famous film maker and
list
> > > your name on imdb.com to make sure your future contacts are always
> > > seeing your work!
> > > > > > > Get an opportunity to work on exciting projects with these
> > > famous film makers. You too, can be a life intern and sign your
creative
> > > rights away, your brilliant creative mind and creations to get a
chance
> > > to intern with your most favorite film makers!
> > > > > > > Non disclosure may reverse, if you so happen to be a bit
more
> > > brilliant than the legal team and creative company you intern
with. If
> > > you are beautiful or handsome and smart too, all those rights will
most
> > > certainly be considered.
> > > > > > > Join us now, Heaven on Earth and an MA in Film! Will you
please
> > > take a listen to one of our most cherished founder's of this idea,
David
> > > Lynch. You just might get a chance to intern

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

Nityananda!, nyuck,nyuck, nyuck?.  Just cuz he may look a little like
Curly, you couldn't be more mistaken!!

http://www.siddhayoga.org/bhagavan-nityananda
<http://www.siddhayoga.org/bhagavan-nityananda>

You may be having a toasted ravioli moment. (-:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> OHHHhhh SToP!
> Yuck, yuck, YUCK!
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > umb=DkPoyXNqAV7&fr=moz35>
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frederick Lenz is like a whiny Opie, who happens to have
hair.
> > > > >
> > > > > Watching him in 'action' during that interview with Larry King
was
> > > fascinating. Lenz is such a goddamn shmoozy slime-exuding
yuckster. He
> > > gives me the creeps actually. His body language and facial
expressions
> > > are a body language expert's dream. The guy lies, big time. And
then
> > he
> > > gets this smoothie, eye sliding way about him and his voice is an
> > > attempt to seduce in some way but all he does, for me, is repel.
There
> > > is something distinctly reptilian underneath all the hair.
> > > >
> > > > He is grrr s.
> > >
> > > Can you say 80's version of "androgynous"?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *
> > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > \
> > >
> >
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> > \
> > >
> >
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> > >
> >
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> > >
> >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Reptilian
> > >
> > > *
> > > >
> >
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> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

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>
> Young Bill Cinton look alike
>
>
> *
> >
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>
> Disgruntled toward the end of days (he might have had the dog collar
and
> bottle of valium in his hand)
>
> *
> >
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>
>
>
>
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Gino Vanelli, is the strikingly handsome, alluring sexy being,
> beautifully voiced singer, who just so happens to have hair.
> > > >
> > > > That is what I meant.
> > > >
> > > > Umph and Uhmph, are sexual attention sounds a woman makes when
she
> is drunk and Gino walks by.
> > > >
> > > > Fred just gets a stairy eyed girl wishing to be shown the way.
> Then she finds out that was not the way.
> > > >
> > > > Gino can sing again and again, and just enjoy him! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Uxkn4P9Ek
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > aka Frederick Lenz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please tell who Fred is, first!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"
> steve.sundur@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Uh, no. Hair does not maketh Gino, alone. Gino has that
> umph.
> > > > > Uhumph.
> > > > > > > So, what exactly are you saying...?
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4KN6TFhy2I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"
> steve.sundur@
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Funny thing is, I have a friend who was born a few
> months
> > > > > earlier
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > Gino, and not too much further 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:

> > Watching him in 'action' during that interview with Larry King was
fascinating. Lenz is such a goddamn shmoozy slime-exuding yuckster. He
gives me the creeps actually. His body language and facial expressions
are a body language expert's dream. The guy lies, big time. And then he
gets this smoothie, eye sliding way about him and his voice is an
attempt to seduce in some way but all he does, for me, is repel. There
is something distinctly reptilian underneath all the hair.
>
> He is grrr s.


So, no Tony the Tiger endorsement by you. Is this what you are saying?

But the other makes you purr.  Is that what you are saying?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Uxkn4P9Ek
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Uxkn4P9Ek>

aka Frederick Lenz


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Please tell who Fred is, first!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > > Uh, no. Hair does not maketh Gino, alone. Gino has that umph.
Uhumph.
> > So, what exactly are you saying...?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4KN6TFhy2I
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny thing is, I have a friend who was born a few months
earlier
> > than
> > > > Gino, and not too much further south. These men could be
brothers.
> > These
> > > > men have similar charisma. I looked at the birthdate of Gino
baby
> > > > tonight and no wonder!
> > > > > Is it the Mangal in Tula? Or Shani in Kanya? Or is it the
nodes?
> > > > > Those are the only similar Jyotish configurations.
> > > > > What makes lots of women, desire these men?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seventhray, who is Fred?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"
steve.sundur@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are we sure this isn't Fred's first cousin? (-:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXIHPUmv3k Gino.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Judy, let's pretend the Turq is, 
> > > > > > > Now all this trolling would be worth it, huh? ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gino. M. Saxophone it to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > > > chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You promised you were going to have a life Barry baby -
any
> > > > updates?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your whole life apparently depends on how much Judy
posts,
> > > > whether
> > > > > > she's in
> > > > > > > > or she's not, where she lives, what she does, when she
> > posts,
> > > > what
> > > > > > she
> > > > > > > > posts, how she posts OMG
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please STOP being such an ATTENTION STALKER
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > STOP STALKING JUDY - is there no end to your two decade
long
> > > > > > obsession?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh both those statements of hers below still hold water.
You
> > > > want to
> > > > > > give
> > > > > > > > it a shot debating it? Oh - what? Right, didn't think
so.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, turquoiseb
> > > > > > no_reply@:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "(And I've never posted out because I "couldn't
control"
> > > > > > > > > myself, BTW.)" - Judy Stein, 1 August 2013
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "I have a lot more faith in my sense of why you behave
> > > > > > > > > as you do than I do in what you tell me of why you
behave
> > > > > > > > > as you do." - Judy Stein, 13 July 2013
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What she said.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The second quote, not the first one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Buh-bye, Judy...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Uh, no.  Hair does not maketh Gino, alone. Gino has that umph. Uhumph.
So, what exactly are you saying...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4KN6TFhy2I
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4KN6TFhy2I>


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > > Funny thing is, I have a friend who was born a few months earlier
than
> > Gino, and not too much further south. These men could be brothers.
These
> > men have similar charisma. I looked at the birthdate of Gino baby
> > tonight and no wonder!
> > > Is it the Mangal in Tula? Or Shani in Kanya? Or is it the nodes?
> > > Those are the only similar Jyotish configurations.
> > > What makes lots of women, desire these men?
> > >
> > > Seventhray, who is Fred?
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are we sure this isn't Fred's first cousin? (-:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXIHPUmv3k Gino.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy, let's pretend the Turq is, 
> > > > > Now all this trolling would be worth it, huh? ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Gino. M. Saxophone it to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> > chivukula.ravi@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You promised you were going to have a life Barry baby - any
> > updates?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your whole life apparently depends on how much Judy posts,
> > whether
> > > > she's in
> > > > > > or she's not, where she lives, what she does, when she
posts,
> > what
> > > > she
> > > > > > posts, how she posts OMG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please STOP being such an ATTENTION STALKER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > STOP STALKING JUDY - is there no end to your two decade long
> > > > obsession?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh both those statements of hers below still hold water. You
> > want to
> > > > give
> > > > > > it a shot debating it? Oh - what? Right, didn't think so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, turquoiseb
> > > > no_reply@:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "(And I've never posted out because I "couldn't control"
> > > > > > > myself, BTW.)" - Judy Stein, 1 August 2013
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "I have a lot more faith in my sense of why you behave
> > > > > > > as you do than I do in what you tell me of why you behave
> > > > > > > as you do." - Judy Stein, 13 July 2013
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What she said.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The second quote, not the first one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Buh-bye, Judy...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Funny thing is, I have a friend who was born a few months earlier than
Gino, and not too much further south. These men could be brothers. These
men have similar charisma. I looked at the birthdate of Gino baby
tonight and no wonder!
> Is it the Mangal in Tula? Or Shani in Kanya? Or is it the nodes?
> Those are the only similar Jyotish configurations.
> What makes lots of women, desire these men?
>
> Seventhray, who is Fred?
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Are we sure this isn't Fred's first cousin? (-:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXIHPUmv3k Gino.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Judy, let's pretend the Turq is, 
> > > Now all this trolling would be worth it, huh? ;)
> > >
> > > Gino. M. Saxophone it to me.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You promised you were going to have a life Barry baby - any
updates?
> > > >
> > > > Your whole life apparently depends on how much Judy posts,
whether
> > she's in
> > > > or she's not, where she lives, what she does, when she posts,
what
> > she
> > > > posts, how she posts OMG
> > > >
> > > > Please STOP being such an ATTENTION STALKER
> > > >
> > > > STOP STALKING JUDY - is there no end to your two decade long
> > obsession?
> > > >
> > > > Oh both those statements of hers below still hold water. You
want to
> > give
> > > > it a shot debating it? Oh - what? Right, didn't think so.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, turquoiseb
> > no_reply@:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "(And I've never posted out because I "couldn't control"
> > > > > myself, BTW.)" - Judy Stein, 1 August 2013
> > > > >
> > > > > "I have a lot more faith in my sense of why you behave
> > > > > as you do than I do in what you tell me of why you behave
> > > > > as you do." - Judy Stein, 13 July 2013
> > > > >
> > > > > What she said.
> > > > >
> > > > > The second quote, not the first one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Buh-bye, Judy...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just sayin'...

[seventhray27]

Are we sure this isn't Fred's first cousin? (-:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXIHPUmv3k Gino.




>
> Judy, let's pretend the Turq is, 
> Now all this trolling would be worth it, huh? ;)
>
> Gino. M. Saxophone it to me.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
> >
> > You promised you were going to have a life Barry baby - any updates?
> >
> > Your whole life apparently depends on how much Judy posts, whether
she's in
> > or she's not, where she lives, what she does, when she posts, what
she
> > posts, how she posts OMG
> >
> > Please STOP being such an ATTENTION STALKER
> >
> > STOP STALKING JUDY - is there no end to your two decade long
obsession?
> >
> > Oh both those statements of hers below still hold water. You want to
give
> > it a shot debating it? Oh - what? Right, didn't think so.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, turquoiseb
no_reply@yahoogroups.comwrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > "(And I've never posted out because I "couldn't control"
> > > myself, BTW.)" - Judy Stein, 1 August 2013
> > >
> > > "I have a lot more faith in my sense of why you behave
> > > as you do than I do in what you tell me of why you behave
> > > as you do." - Judy Stein, 13 July 2013
> > >
> > > What she said.
> > >
> > > The second quote, not the first one.
> > >
> > > Buh-bye, Judy...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Mikey boy - do ya a-know your Appalachian English grammar?

[seventhray27]

Those are great.  I love Appalachian grammar.
A few things I hear in my line of business.
When referring to anything pertaining to brick, it is always "masonary"
instead of "masonry".  I would win if I bet that the term was used
correctly only 10% of the time.
Then there is the word "zinc" for "sink".  Not used incorrectly quite as
often, but still frequently.
Then there is Harley "Davison" for Harley "Davidson"
Now, I like to say for fun, (and because my wife has a Master's degree
in French and has flawless grammar), that I am going to Walmart's, or
Target's or something like that.
BTW Michael,  I always enjoy the stories about your family, including
your childhood.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Something to get you started on your spiritual sojourn back to your
> Appalachian cattle a-mating, teeth a-rotting, incestuous, trailer
trash
> roots.
>
>
http://news.yahoo.com/grammar-rules-behind-3-commonly-disparaged-dialect\
s-063000829.html
>
> Good luck man - I love you.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > It is a little painful to say, Mike, that you do appear, as Feste
has
> > said, to be pretty uneducated.
>
> Whew, hold on a minute Herr Steve. I think that is a pretty insulting,
not to mention uneducated, remark you just made. MJ is far from
uneducated or, at least, a long way from dumb. I have seen the man write
with skill and an obvious exposure to lots of "education". Just because
he happened to have worked his ass off in the hot kitchens of MIU simply
means he worked his ass off and was dedicated to a life characterized by
TM and hard work. He also took a fair bit of abuse at the hands of the
stuffed shirts who ran the place. I was a student shortly before MJ
arrived so I remember those days well and had very close friends on
staff. I know how it rolled.
>
> I happen to avoid vaccinations myself although not because I believe
vaccinations in general to be harmful or useless but because at this age
I have had all the appropriate vaccinations for my age and exposure to
the world of germs. I don't vaccinate for Swine flu or flu in general
and polio and small pox were done decades ago when I was a child. If
they could vaccinate against ignorance, fear and small mindedness I
would be first in line though.

I only objected, reluctantly, to what I felt was a blanket indictment of
vaccinations.  However, even if I disagree with many of his opinions, I
do enjoy his writing style,  especially when he relates his personal
experiences.

But it seems to me he has some (quite a few) blind spots when it comes
to the whole TMO experience, and I voice those objections, when I think
he is particularly off the rails.


> Where have vaccines been declared to be
> > a "panacea that cures all ills". This is your trademark hyperbole,
> > which you likely would not have the ability to back up. But maybe
you'd
> > like to give it a try.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not against all vaccines, but I don't care for the deceitful
way
> > in which they are marketed. Vaccines are the panacea that cures all
> > ills, sound familiar? Wouldn't surprise me if the marketing
departments
> > of the drug companies were staffed with the likes of Neil Paterson -
the
> > TM hucksterism is of the same stripe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: authfriend authfriend@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:22 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > He left a carpet of broken lives. This is my opinion. I know
> > > > others, including the creator of FFL feel differently and if
> > > > Alex and Rick want to ban me for expressing what I believe
> > > > (which ain't much of a stretch given his behavior) then so be
it.
> > >
> > > As much of an asshole as you're showing yourself to be,
> > > nobody's about to "ban" you from FFL for expressing your
> > > views on Maharishi and the TMO.
> > >
> > > That you would consider being banned for doing so even a
> > > faint possibility is a very clear demonstration of your
> > > inability to think rationally about anything TM-related.
> > > (Or anything else, for that matter, given your recent
> > > idiotically paranoid tirade against vaccines.)
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

Thank you for setting me straight.  I will endeavor to sharpen my
writing skills and get up to speed on various literary devices one might
use in making a point.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Jesus, where have you been living Mars?
>
> My comment that "Vaccines are the panacea that cures all ills" wasn't
meant to be taken literally, Mr. PhD. It was in fact an example of both
hyperbole, which is the use of exaggeration to emphasize a point, and
the use of allusion, which is using one fact or idea to reference
another, although it was more hyperbole than allusion.
>
> I was alluding to the fact that drug companies aggressively and
somewhat deceptively market their wares (both drugs and vaccines) and
using a bit of exaggeration to make the point, as well as alluding to
the deceptive marketing practices of TM.
>
> If you and feste who seem eager to root out the ignorant and
uneducated here on FFL would spend some time EDUCATING yourselves as to
the use of literary devices in the English
> language, AND educate yourselves about the way drug companies market
their wares you would be much better off than simply blindly accepting
what the drug companies tell you.
>
> I know that is difficult since you have had a fine indoctrination from
the TMO to just believe what you are told, but a bit of education on
your part on these matters might stand you in good stead.
>
> I doubt you read all that I posted on drug companies, but my writing
is based on my reading on the subject, various investigative reporting
that has been done in the past 20 years on the enormities of drug
companies, first hand accounts from friends of mine who are drug company
reps and my own good common sense.
>
> Once again I offer you good sense in a cogent and concise manner,
regardless of what Barry thinks.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:42 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
>
>
>
> Â
> It is a little painful to say, Mike, that you do appear, as FesteÂ
has said, to be pretty uneducated.  Where have vaccines been
declared to be a "panacea that cures all ills".  This is
your trademark hyperbole, which you likely would not have the
ability to back up. But maybe you'd like to give it a try.
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> >
> > I'm not against all vaccines, but I don't care for the deceitful way
in which they are marketed. Vaccines are the panacea that cures all
ills, sound familiar? Wouldn't surprise me if the marketing departments
of the drug companies were staffed with the likes of Neil Paterson - the
TM hucksterism is of the same stripe.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:22 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > He left a carpet of broken lives. This is my opinion. I know
> > > others, including the creator of FFL feel
> differently and if
> > > Alex and Rick want to ban me for expressing what I believe
> > > (which ain't much of a stretch given his behavior) then so be it.
> >
> > As much of an asshole as you're showing yourself to be,
> > nobody's about to "ban" you from FFL for expressing your
> > views on Maharishi and the TMO.
> >
> > That you would consider being banned for doing so even a
> > faint possibility is a very clear demonstration of your
> > inability to think rationally about anything TM-related.
> > (Or anything else, for that matter, given your recent
> > idiotically paranoid tirade against vaccines.)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

easy Mikey, easy.  Don't get your panties in a bunch.  You're already
closing in on your limit.  let's just put off the debate about the
banning for now.  we can revisit it later.  on the other hand, if you
feel like you want a taste of banning, consider Batgap.  That's Rick's
other site and they don't tolerate much in the way of naysayers from
what I gather.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> you are an idiot - I have no desire to be banned nor have I ever said
I wanted to be - your assumptions are as asinine as wilytex's
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
>
>
>
> Â
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote:
> > No, of course not. They were banned for being egregiously offensive
(extreme profanity or racism) or repeatedly breaking the rules. I should
also point out that in this discussion, I'm referring to legitimate FFL
participants; I routinely boot spammers.
> Thus ends Mikey's big wish, that he be banned for being such
an outspoken critic of M and the TMO.  Seek martyrdom elsewhere
Mikey.
> Or, you do have a knack of posting out on your own.  Maybe you can
make believe that you are being banned for a week.
> Would that make you feel better?
>
> >
> > > Because that's what Michael is suggesting may happen to him.
> >
> > Well, http://youtu.be/e5JCp2Hd5L8
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> Thank you, Share, again.
> Yes, I deleted the comment that went through to members boxes. I did
not want to have health stuff on the internet open, even with the only
mention of antibiotics. haha
> I will re post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVQcYxWMc-Y
> because I only humorously post any side punches. :)

You think he bangs Stephanie like that?


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Obbajee, for someone who's going through what seems like a major
health challenge, you are amazing. Thank you for all that you've been
expressing today: compassion, not only for MJ but also for Ravi and
Xeno; humor all around; answering confrontations without getting nasty.
I hope I'm learning from you. And not causing you to have a big head (-:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:57 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > See! A good response because I was nice to him. He even mentioned
good times about the time he practiced TM.
> > If you all want MJ to not be so painstakingly negative, treat him
nice. Telling him he is not educated or is screwed up and all the other
names, is what he is proving how well TM does not work on some of ya'll.
If a tater has to start the blame words, how well is your program doing
ya?
> > Funny story about your brother and you, Mikey.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > Ha ha ha ha! You should meet my brother, he is the master of
cussing, but he never did TM. In fact he used to throw rocks at the
window I would meditate next to when I first started TM to distract me,
either that or stir our dogs into a frenzy and put them in my room and
shut the door. Good times.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:35 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > I like to read MJ's rants. Even if some say he lacks sound
judgement, that is a symptom of the feelings he is going through. He
appears to feel wronged by the movement, wronged by maharishi, and quite
frankly, MJ has helped me see and feel some of my own disputes within. I
know the difference between flame and substance.
> > > It is important and I hope no one bans MJ just because he spews
vile at something he feels mislead by.
> > > MJ's actions are very spiritual. Cursing brings one to find the
essence of knowing at some point, dammit!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > authfriend is right, MJ. You are so twisted up by anger and
bitterness that you cannot think straight. Your opinions are
worthless--just an outpouring of bile that you choose to spew all over
us. You lack sound judgement. You are unable to evaluate anything
fairly.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > He left a carpet of broken lives. This is my opinion. I know
> > > > > > others, including the creator of FFL feel differently and if
> > > > > > Alex and Rick want to ban me for expressing what I believe
> > > > > > (which ain't much of a stretch given his behavior) then so
be it.
> > > > >
> > > > > As much of an asshole as you're showing yourself to be,
> > > > > nobody's about to "ban" you from FFL for expressing your
> > > > > views on Maharishi and the TMO.
> > > > >
> > > > > That you would consider being banned for doing so even a
> > > > > faint possibility is a very clear demonstration of your
> > > > > inability to think rationally about anything TM-related.
> > > > > (Or anything else, for that matter, given your recent
> > > > > idiotically paranoid tirade against vaccines.)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Banned

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
>
>
> Let me explain - when Buck complained about my words towards the Big
Guru, I took it that he was implying that I should be banned, he did not
of course say so or ask that I be banned. I was making an assumption,
and I bet he would LIKE for me to be banned for calling marshy what I
think he was. I knew that Rick wouldn't ban me for doing so, I was
making as strong a point to Buck as I could.
>
>
> Sorry to get everyone agitated over banning.

Hey, you got to be the center of attention for a few minutes.  Even if
it was because you "act the fool", but somethings better than nothing I
guess.


>
>
> 
> From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:58 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > > I like to read MJ's rants. Even if some say he lacks sound
> > > judgement, that is a symptom of the feelings he is going
> > > through. He appears to feel wronged by the movement, wronged
> > > by maharishi, and quite frankly, MJ has helped me see and
> > > feel some of my own disputes within. I know the difference
> > > between flame and substance.
> > > It is important and I hope no one bans MJ just because he
> > > spews vile at something he feels mislead by.
> >
> > And your thinking is just as screwed up as Michael's,
> > obba, if you believe there's even the slightest chance
> > he'd be banned from FFL for expressing his opinions.
> >
>
> READERS OF YAHOO GROUPS AND SEARCH ENGINES EVERYWHERE:
> Posting on FFL is a pleasure and reading FFL is even more so. Pure
entertainment.
> I have been a member for around 3 years and only post and read, when I
have time. Sometimes I delete hundreds of FFL posted group email
forwards from my email box, because I really don't have time to sift
through all of them and well, sometimes they get a bit boring hashing
out the same stories and critiques over and over, but for the most part,
I enjoy this YAHOO GROUP FFL, because it is uplifting to see so many
people sharing stories, mostly about enlightenment being sought.
> I respect all posters on this FFL board, all those who have come and
gone and all those who continually stay the same. :)
>
> The quote above auth snipped out, and snipped at with;
> "And your thinking is just as screwed up as Michael's,
> obba, if you believe there's even the slightest chance
> he'd be banned from FFL for expressing his opinions."
>
> Geez. I am sorry, but I saw a word either, "ban, or banned," or both.
If it was Uncle fester or Ravi or even the Turq or Auth or Share or Ann
or Steve, or anyone else, I would have at the same moment in time seeing
the word(s), ban/banned, I may have had the same small time frame to
react and reply, because, I DON'T BELIEVE IN BANNING ANYONE."
> Belief and opinions go hand in hand. It is not my belief MJ would be
banned, so my thinking is NOT screwed up. At least not in the context
was quoted above and why. It is only that I have a life outside of FFL
and also have followed only one other culturing group than the TMO, that
would be FFL!
> Thank you, Judy Auth, for pointing out what I would be if my beliefs
were true. :) OXO
>
> ps. There may be a few mistakes, because I really have no time to
proof read, and I apologize to any grammar nazi's, if they are present.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote:
> No, of course not. They were banned for being egregiously offensive
(extreme profanity or racism) or repeatedly breaking the rules. I should
also point out that in this discussion, I'm referring to legitimate FFL
participants; I routinely boot spammers.

Thus ends Mikey's big wish, that he be banned for being such an
outspoken critic of M and the TMO.  Seek martyrdom elsewhere Mikey.

Or, you do have a knack of posting out on your own.  Maybe you can make
believe that you are being banned for a week.

Would that make you feel better?


>
> > Because that's what Michael is suggesting may happen to him.
>
> Well, http://youtu.be/e5JCp2Hd5L8
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

It is a little painful to say, Mike, that you do appear, as Feste has
said, to be pretty uneducated.  Where have vaccines been declared to be
a "panacea that cures all ills".  This is your trademark hyperbole,
which you likely would not have the ability to back up. But maybe you'd
like to give it a try.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> I'm not against all vaccines, but I don't care for the deceitful way
in which they are marketed. Vaccines are the panacea that cures all
ills, sound familiar? Wouldn't surprise me if the marketing departments
of the drug companies were staffed with the likes of Neil Paterson - the
TM hucksterism is of the same stripe.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: authfriend authfriend@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:22 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: marshy
>
>
>
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> (snip)
> > He left a carpet of broken lives. This is my opinion. I know
> > others, including the creator of FFL feel differently and if
> > Alex and Rick want to ban me for expressing what I believe
> > (which ain't much of a stretch given his behavior) then so be it.
>
> As much of an asshole as you're showing yourself to be,
> nobody's about to "ban" you from FFL for expressing your
> views on Maharishi and the TMO.
>
> That you would consider being banned for doing so even a
> faint possibility is a very clear demonstration of your
> inability to think rationally about anything TM-related.
> (Or anything else, for that matter, given your recent
> idiotically paranoid tirade against vaccines.)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: marshy

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> (snip)
> > He left a carpet of broken lives. This is my opinion. I know
> > others, including the creator of FFL feel differently and if
> > Alex and Rick want to ban me for expressing what I believe
> > (which ain't much of a stretch given his behavior) then so be it.
Here' what you're not saying Mikey.  "Please ban me for being so
controversial"  And the fact that you expect that to come from Rick or
Alex, shows just how ridiculously clueless you are.
But, please carry on.  You have become an interesting study of how
"unattached" and "unaffected" you are, and one can be from Maharishi's
teachings and legacy.  (at least in your own mind)

>
> As much of an asshole as you're showing yourself to be,
> nobody's about to "ban" you from FFL for expressing your
> views on Maharishi and the TMO.
>
> That you would consider being banned for doing so even a
> faint possibility is a very clear demonstration of your
> inability to think rationally about anything TM-related.
> (Or anything else, for that matter, given your recent
> idiotically paranoid tirade against vaccines.)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> dear turq and Steve, IMHO Mac would be a perfect pet for Edith not to
mention perfect foil for Kyle (-:
No doubt that would be the case.  The daughter and her friend one time
forgot to put him back in his glass box while they went out for Chinese.
But Macky hadn't gone too far and they found him pretty quickly.  Who
woulda thought that a gecko would make such a great pet!
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:19 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree
>
>
>
> Â
> right now, my daughter gets to babysit this guy for a week whileÂ
her friend is on vacation.  he (Mac) gets to go outside, and crawl
around and I get to spend time with him as he crawls around on my tummy
and arm and neck.  on Wednesday he gets his weekly mouse (dead) to
eat.  been a lot of fun.  our guy has a pretty white stripe
that goes along the center of his back.
> African fat tailed gecko
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> >
> > snip
> >
> > > He forgot the onions. You have to eat a Greek salad with lots of
> > luscious, smelly juicy onions. I am pretty sure those aren't good
> > either. Now I have a west facing front door, love a Greek salad, I'm
not
> > allowed on MUM campus, I've been involved in RWC's cult, I poo poo
Vastu
> > architecture and am a psuedo Canadian.
> >
> > How much worse can it get?
> >
> > Let me think about that.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree

[seventhray27]

right now, my daughter gets to babysit this guy for a week while her
friend is on vacation.  he (Mac) gets to go outside, and crawl around
and I get to spend time with him as he crawls around on my tummy and arm
and neck.  on Wednesday he gets his weekly mouse (dead) to eat.  been a
lot of fun.  our guy has a pretty white stripe that goes along the
center of his back.

African fat tailed gecko

  [African Fat tailed gecko]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
> snip
>
> > He forgot the onions. You have to eat a Greek salad with lots of
> luscious, smelly juicy onions. I am pretty sure those aren't good
> either. Now I have a west facing front door, love a Greek salad, I'm
not
> allowed on MUM campus, I've been involved in RWC's cult, I poo poo
Vastu
> architecture and am a psuedo Canadian.
>
> How much worse can it get?
>
> Let me think about that.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:

snip

> He forgot the onions. You have to eat a Greek salad with lots of
luscious, smelly juicy onions. I am pretty sure those aren't good
either. Now I have a west facing front door, love a Greek salad, I'm not
allowed on MUM campus, I've been involved in RWC's cult, I poo poo Vastu
architecture and am a psuedo Canadian.

How much worse can it get?

Let me think about that.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> > > My favorite summer dish is sliced cucumbers, cut up tomatoes, feta
> > cheese, all gently tossed with a tasty Greek salad dressing. I
> > could enjoy it every day.
> > >
>
> Ahhh Hh!
> This explains your disposition! Eating cucumbers with tomatoes! no,
no, no! And tomatoes with cheese!
> Not ayurvedic, spiritual master!


Maybe you're right.  On the other hand, probably goes on the end of the
list of things that are wrong with me.  But I confess that it's what I
had for dinner tonight..followed by a big piece of home made
peach pie, made with locally grown peaches, topped with whipped cream. 
Oh, the tomatoes were locally grown too.  Maybe that will help a little.
(-:

On the other hand, I did have a colonoscopy a week ago,  Saturday, so I
got a good colon cleanse out of that.  Report came back good.  I figured
it would.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's 'Hood -- a heaven on earth for cafe writers, part 3

[seventhray27]

I am no good at this.  Maybe this will come through.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
>
>
> Really fun to see some of your neighborhood(s). I don't know if this
> will come through, but this is a view of my backyard from our deck.
> Don't know if you can make out the rope swing and zip line. Actually
> looks a little less cluttered back there than it usually does.
>
>
http://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/attachment/u/0/?saduie=AG9B_P-W5G-hJ-jNT2Qo\
\
> MZcotwQb&attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=14026be33be9ee1c
> > oMZcotwQb&attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=14026be33be9ee1c>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > My closest movie theater:
> >
> > [http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2835/9381962089_93220d957e.jpg]
> > Literally my "corner cafe," the one nearest my house. Wifi gratuit,
> but
> > WAY too overpriced to go to regularly:
> >
> > [http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/9381963795_976a2d32ce.jpg]
> > Le Montebello Brasserie-Salon de thé...
> >
> >
> >
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/539595_641306049\
\
> \
> > 226865_1698347645_n.jpg]
> > ...which is one of the best places to have lunch, brunch, or a
sunset
> > drink in Paris, because of its view:
> >
> >
> >
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/539595_641306052\
\
> \
> > 560198_1633259022_n.jpg]
> > And finally, some typical Parisians, gawking at the tourist gawking
at
> > them:
> >
> >
> >
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/539595_641306055\
\
> \
> > 893531_1920904361_n.jpg]
> > And that's all, folks. Enjoy your day, and if you enjoy it, consider
> > sending photos to explain why...
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's 'Hood -- a heaven on earth for cafe writers, part 3

[seventhray27]

Really fun to see some of your neighborhood(s).  I don't know if this
will come through, but this is a view of my backyard from our deck. 
Don't know if you can make out the rope swing and zip line.  Actually
looks a little less cluttered back there than it usually does.

http://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/attachment/u/0/?saduie=AG9B_P-W5G-hJ-jNT2Qo\
MZcotwQb&attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=14026be33be9ee1c





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> My closest movie theater:
>
> [http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2835/9381962089_93220d957e.jpg]
> Literally my "corner cafe," the one nearest my house. Wifi gratuit,
but
> WAY too overpriced to go to regularly:
>
> [http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/9381963795_976a2d32ce.jpg]
> Le Montebello Brasserie-Salon de thé...
>
>
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/539595_641306049\
\
> 226865_1698347645_n.jpg]
> ...which is one of the best places to have lunch, brunch, or a sunset
> drink in Paris, because of its view:
>
>
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/539595_641306052\
\
> 560198_1633259022_n.jpg]
> And finally, some typical Parisians, gawking at the tourist gawking at
> them:
>
>
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/539595_641306055\
\
> 893531_1920904361_n.jpg]
> And that's all, folks. Enjoy your day, and if you enjoy it, consider
> sending photos to explain why...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree

[seventhray27]

The dressing comes from the Greek Orthodox Church here.  They've got
that part down perfect!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> LKKR (-:
>
> (hi Steve, see turq's post to carde for translation)
>
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree
>
>
>
> Â
> My favorite summer dish is sliced cucumbers, cut up tomatoes, feta
cheese, all gently tossed with a tasty Greek salad dressing.  I
could enjoy it every day.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> >
> > Share,
> >
> > My recipe is simple. I chopped a small portion of white onions and
green bell pepper. Then, I let it sautee on a small portion of olive
oil. Then I added slices of tomatoes. When the onions were slightly
brown, I added one can of tuna to mix with the preparation. I let the
tuna cook until its slightly dry and brown.
> >
> > Then, I added the squeezed lemon for the bliss effect. Voila and
bona petite!
> >
> > JR
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow, John, just reading about your gentle bliss enlivens
mine.  Thank you so much for this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: John jr_esq@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:36 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bliss from a Lemon Tree
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > I picked three lemons from the tree in my backyard. After
preparing and cooking tuna from a can, I squeezed and sprinkled the
juice of one lemon onto the recipe. Then, I ate the food with rice and a
can of coke. Soon, I felt a gentle bliss that's still with me as I write
this post.
> > >
> > > In jyotish, the sour taste is an attribute of Venus. So, cheers!
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss from a Lemon Tree

[seventhray27]

My favorite summer dish is sliced cucumbers, cut up tomatoes, feta
cheese, all gently tossed with a tasty Greek salad dressing.  I could
enjoy it every day.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
>
> Share,
>
> My recipe is simple. I chopped a small portion of white onions and
green bell pepper. Then, I let it sautee on a small portion of olive
oil. Then I added slices of tomatoes. When the onions were slightly
brown, I added one can of tuna to mix with the preparation. I let the
tuna cook until its slightly dry and brown.
>
> Then, I added the squeezed lemon for the bliss effect. Voila and bona
petite!
>
> JR
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Wow, John, just reading about your gentle bliss enlivens mine. 
Thank you so much for this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: John jr_esq@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:36 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bliss from a Lemon Tree
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I picked three lemons from the tree in my backyard. After preparing
and cooking tuna from a can, I squeezed and sprinkled the juice of one
lemon onto the recipe. Then, I ate the food with rice and a can of coke.
Soon, I felt a gentle bliss that's still with me as I write this post.
> >
> > In jyotish, the sour taste is an attribute of Venus. So, cheers!
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great writing advice from Stephen King

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > snip
> > > > > And Robin doesn't count because he was only a
> > > > > serial *psychological* rapist. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > Admit it. Admit it. That is funny!!
> > >
> > > Admit it, admit it, you like this because you feel it exonerates
Share
> > in some strange way and not because you understand what this
actually
> > implies about Barry and yourself by finding it funny.
> > > >
> > Whoa, whoa. Let me shift gears here, from chill mode to self
analysis
> > mode. Let's see, Barry pushed a big ass button. And I do apologize
> > that I think the subject matter of "psychological rape" could really
> > stand some comedic relief, being that it was, (IMO of course), blown
way
> > the hell out of proportion.
> >
> > Exonerate Share. M. As the Greek philosopher might say, first I
> > must believe that Share needs exoneration!
>
> Cool, which Greek philosopher knew Share?

I think it was Epicurus.
> >
> > No, I was never in that camp.
> >
> > There's a lady up in Victoria, BC, who is found of saying, "Lighten
Up"
>
> Really? Do I know her? Who is she and where did she say that? And why?

Says it all the time.  You may know her.  Pretty blonde,  but no bimbo
this lady.  Hell no!
> >
> > Always good advice!
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great writing advice from Stephen King

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > snip
> > > And Robin doesn't count because he was only a
> > > serial *psychological* rapist. :-)
> > >
> > Admit it. Admit it. That is funny!!
>
> Admit it, admit it, you like this because you feel it exonerates Share
in some strange way and not because you understand what this actually
implies about Barry and yourself by finding it funny.
> >
Whoa, whoa.  Let me shift gears here, from chill mode to self analysis
mode.  Let's see, Barry pushed a big ass button.  And I do apologize
that I think the subject matter of "psychological rape" could really
stand some comedic relief, being that it was, (IMO of course), blown way
the hell out of proportion.

Exonerate Share. M.  As the Greek philosopher might say, first I
must believe that Share needs exoneration!

No, I was never in that camp.

There's a lady up in Victoria, BC, who is found of saying, "Lighten Up"

Always good advice!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Surface

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote:

> Well, during its almost 150 years of history, Nokia has manufactured
> many kinds of things. Perhaps it should seriously consider starting to
make cameras! :D
>
Great idea.  Or maybe laser printers.  They could charge a little more
for the printer, but offer lower prices on the toner.  What do you
think?  A plan maybe?  Or who knows, maybe even 35mm film.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great writing advice from Stephen King

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > > And Robin doesn't count because he was only a
> > > serial *psychological* rapist.  :-)
> > >
> seventhray:
> > Admit it.  Admit it.  That is funny!!
> >
> Considering the source, yes I admit it is funny!
>
> "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds
> discuss events. Small minds discuss people."
> -- Eleanor Roosevelt
Welcome to the Funny Farm Lounge, of which you are a distinguished
member!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great writing advice from Stephen King

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
snip
> And Robin doesn't count because he was only a
> serial *psychological* rapist.  :-)
>
Admit it.  Admit it.  That is funny!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: A short history of the FFL Posting Limits, for Seraphita

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
anartaxius@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > My thought is, if one is on FFL, then there has to be something
> > > > very strange about one to begin with. We are all nut cases
> > > > looking for heaven on a flat screen.
> > >
> > > Xeno:
> > >
> > > SPEAK. FOR. YOURSELF.
> >
> > I do. But as you would never admit to being a nutcase yourself,
>
> Let me say it another way: SPEAK. FOR. YOURSELF.
>
> You haven't a clue what I would or would not admit to.

Okay, okay.  That's fair.

No harm in holding out the possibility that we're all bozos on the bus.


>
>
>
>
> > sometimes there is a tendency to let my cup runneth over. You need
someone to speak on your behalf.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi talks of his first sight of Guru Dev – transcript

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> what a crock of shit - the "spread" of TM was something that marshy
invented because his gravy train was dead and watching TM success? Yep
that must have been great for him, as the wealth continued to flow and
he put forth his own fanatic Hindu agenda,
  never mind the financial, mental and emotional casualties.
I've been meaning to ask you.  how many days a week are you going now? 
is it helping?

>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." doctordumbass@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 8:15 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi talks of his first sight of
Guru Dev â€" transcript
>
>
>
> Â
> Interesting that the spread of TM could not happen until after Guru
Dev's passing, because none of his disciples could leave him. What a
life that must have been, for Maharishi, to initiate, and then watch the
spread of this technique, and its unbelievable success, all from the
knowledge of his teacher.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Purusha in Himalaya donotreply@
> >
> > New post on Purusha in Himalaya
> >
> >
> > Maharishi talks of his first sight of Guru Dev â€" transcript
> > by Andrew Lawson Kerr
> >
> >
> > I found Guru Dev by the grace of God and by my desire to find him.
In India, it's a very normal thing for a child to think of God and to
find Him and converse with Him. God-realization is a very concrete
experience in the Indian air, and this instills in every Indian heart a
desire to find a way and to seek a good guide to help them reach the
goal.
> >
> > This situation was true in my case in the early days. One day I was
led by those, who knew I was fond of meeting saints, to a house
somewhere in the forest, and then I was led up some stairs to a terrace.
It so happened that this was a very dark night and I could barely see a
chair with a few people sitting around it, all quiet. The silence there
was so great that one felt hesitant to even breathe properly, because
breath was felt so horribly in that atmosphere. As I came close to the
chair a car came down a nearby road, and its highlights lit up the porch
for a moment. Then I saw Guru Dev and I thought: "Here is the sun" This
was the flashing moment of light, which decided my destiny.
> >
> > I somehow was able to speak with him. He asked me about everything I
was doing, and when he heard I was student he said: "First finish your
studies". There was nothing to argue about or discuss.
> >
> > By the time I had finished my studies, he had become Shankaracharya
in Jyotir Math. I was told that many people were going to that place and
I went there and found Guru Dev, and then I stayed.
> >
> > This devotion to Guru Dev, devotion to one's Master, when you will
go in detail of the Vedic tradition, to which we belong, it seems it has
been of just this series of instances, where the disciple surrendered
and got enlightened through surrender. And such surrender is not a thing
on the thinking level or manipulation, no, it's a very genuine,
innocent, abstract yet very concrete contact with the reality. The
history of this tradition is full of these values of surrender to the
Master and this is what sustains knowledge generation after generation
> >
> > The great impact of Guru Dev in his lifetime is in bringing out so
clearly and in such simple worlds this technique of TM and his blessing
for this Movement, which came out much after he left his body, because
there was no occasion during his lifetime for any of his intimate
blessed disciples to go out of his presence. That's why any such
Movement to bless the world could not have started during his time.
> >
> > He was so divine, he was so sublime.  It was not possible to think
of one day away from him. It was just not possible.
> >
> > So his expression, his teachings, made the whole possibility of
everyone to get onto this blessed state of unity through a scientific
procedure, systematic procedure, because the truth is that not many
people are at any time in any age in a position to follow this
spontaneous and innocent path of surrender and get enlightenment. It is
just not practical. It is not possible. And therefore a system, a
procedure, a method, something very tangible, concrete yet based on the
same spontaneous impulse of life which makes one surrender to his
master-same spontaneous impulse of life. We just get sold out to
something so sublime and so divine, same impulse takes the mind to the
transcendent and getting this direct experience of this unboundedness.
Same impulse of life, same tender innocent impulse of life seeking
abundance is used spontaneously in that path of surrender to the master
and living that unified state of life and the same tender impulse of
life
>  seeking for more and more is used in Transcendental Meditation in
order to bring that unboundedness and rise eventually to unity. The same
thing, th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neuroscience of Narcissism

[seventhray27]

Wait one cotton pickin' minute!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FlpnzjhL1g




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:10 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Obba one can no be, here. Life's dilemmas have taken over for a
short
> > duration. The magical world of health can be more important than
posting
> > sometimes. :)
> > > Thank you for including my name in time. Made me smile. Now send
me good
> > health and the good man to play with.
> > > See you all shortly!
> > > -Obba
> > >
> >
> > Feel better soon, Obba. http://youtu.be/BZVD8QqNoak
> >
>
> ​Good one, I found this one for myself -
http://youtu.be/L-EO0GRVL4A
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A short history of the FFL Posting Limits, for Seraphita

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > My thought is, if one is on FFL, then there has to be something
> > > very strange about one to begin with. We are all nut cases
> > > looking for heaven on a flat screen.
> >
> > Xeno:
> >
> > SPEAK. FOR. YOURSELF.
>
> I do. But as you would never admit to being a nutcase yourself,
sometimes there is a tendency to let my cup runneth over. You need
someone to speak on your behalf.
>
Oh my!  This is a zinger of the highest order!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share

[seventhray27]

However, I wish I could say the grilled artichoke was a winner.  For
some reason it was not.  In the past, it had been a family favorite with
the family hurriedly tearing off each petal to get to the meaty base
which would then be apportioned out.

But in this case the dipping sauce was a little strong for my tastes.  I
prefer just a basic lemon butter for my artichoke dipping.

On the other hand, the nightly Foosball tournaments were thrilling,
often coming down to the last goal. (not related, I know)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> Steve, grilled artichoke! I've never even heard of that! But I love
artichokes and that sounds delicious. Not to mention nutritious (-:
> Anyway, thank you for all the wonderful details. I think you have
officially joined the ranks of good travel writers here on FFL. Part of
that has to do with pacing in the narrating of events. It's not a skill
I have so I enjoy seeing it in the writing of others. Anyway, welcome
back, safe travels today, hope you found some good gifts and had a sweet
arrival back home.
>
>
>
> ____
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share
>
>
>
> Â
> Hi Share,
> We really only splurged one night.  Wife had some kind of fancy
chicken breast, son had a grilled flat iron steak, daughter had seafood
pasta, and I had a caesar salad and grilled artichoke.  Caesar salad
was magnificent with the sliced anchovies.  The taste I had of
everyone elses dish was very good.
> We had Mexican one night, bbq tonight, and the rest of the time was
eating at the condo or pizza type dinners.
> Activities were fun, but we didn't get to do the camping
overnight.  The conditioning wasn't really there for an 8-1/2 mile
hike, and it turned out that I had to stay close to e-mail for much
of each morning.
> But we did take a nice bike ride, (mostly all downhill) from Snowmass
to Aspen, and then another day from Snowmass to Aspen via the Rio Grande
Trail.  About halfway through the Rio Grande Trail, tired and
parched, we stopped at a path side water fall where we removed our shoes
and waded in the the little spash pond and refreshed ourselves.
> Then yesterday was tubing on the Colorado River.  Fun also, but I
couldn't find a good way to stay on the tube and kept falling off. 
I lost the tube a one point and had to walk a ways.  Little
frustrating, but overall fun.  Hi-light there was at the end,Â
near Glenwood Springs, where Gaia had hot water mineral spring that
went right into the river and they had built a rock pool around it where
the rafters and tubers could stop and enjoy.
> Also, took one long day hike, which was strenuous but fun.  It was
that hike that made me realize I couldn't really bite off 8-1/2 miles.
(along with the business stuff)
> Today did some fishing and caught fish after fish at a stocked Â
pond, but had no luck later at the fast running stream.
> That's it in a nutshell.  Have to try to find some presents on the
way home tomorrow for the employees who did a stand up job while I was
gone.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >
> > Welcome back, Steve and it'll be great to hear about some of your
adventures. I remember that you all went hiking last year. And you
mentioned something about possibly camping. How was the weather? Did you
all get to Aspen at all? Not to mention, how was the FOOD?ÂÂ
> > PS If time is limited, please talk about the food first (-:
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Four for Share

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:

> What a wonderful part of the world. Two of my closest friends lived in
Snowmass and my husband and I were married in their backyard overlooking
the valley and the mountains. It was glorious. It is also very high up
there and hiking is strenuous at that altitude.
>
> We stayed at the Jerome Hotel for our wedding night and had a
memorable pre-wedding dinner there the night before the marriage
ceremony. I will always think fondly of Snowmass and Aspen. Father
Thomas Keating used to live at the Trappist Monastery St Benedicts there
in Snowmass and that monastery is extra-ordinary in every way.
> http://www.stbenedictsretreat.com/

Truthfully, in all the years we've been going out, I'm embarrassed to
say we haven't visited the monastery.  It was on my list for this year
to go to Thursday Vesper services, but we didn't make it.
I remember staying in the Jerome, back in the day (some 40 years ago)
when it was a flea bag hotel, literally.  Now, and for the last many
years, it is as five star as you could want.  What a nice place to start
your honeymoon.
I did pretty well on my 3-1/2 mile hike up the Difficult Campground
trail.  Maybe I'll post the picture I took when I was up there.  My wife
was still getting acclimated and couldn't quite make it the whole way.
Yes, it is beautiful at every turn.
There is so much building along the valley.  I am trying to figure out
what supports and drives that development.
I know there are a lot of rich people there, but other than the ski
season, and the pretty busy summer season, I don't quite see how the
developments can keep at the pace they are going.
But Aspen,  being  Aspen, anytime a developer wants to put up some
luxury units, they are required to also put up an equal number of
affordable living units.   Sometimes in the same  place, sometimes down
valley.  That is a good thing.
At least this year, we got a chance to go deeper into the big
archaeological find they made in Snowmass a couple years ago.
http://www.snowmassiceage.com/