[FairfieldLife] Re: Communal Studies
what exactly are the jyotish charts showing for May of 2019? War?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guy Is Certifiable
If you see the movie, The Big Short, you realize that The Donald does in fact belong in that world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kisses from Turq
I have not been checking in often enough to follow the details. My question is: how to do I get to the FairfieldLife 2 chat group? My attempts so far bring me to Final Fantasy Legend 2. Thanks
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kisses from Turq
Thanks
Re: [FairfieldLife] The madness of Chopra...
If you read on thru to the last /14 of the uncertainty blog about Deepak, there is a summary of a debate between a scientist, Sean Carroll, and Eben Alexander, MD (best selling author who claims he went to heaven in a NDE). Here is what jumped out at me: that Carroll said life is a process like fire, not a substance like wood. An obvious and simple distinction. But I think he nails the fundamental mistake in thinking. What a shift in thinking for me, especially if I substitute the big C for life. I have always mentally imagined Consciousness as a thing, even if incredibly refined, subtle, fluid, and all pervasive. I have to apply this new thought to old ideas.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was anyone else out there watching Better Call Saul?
I too am nearly done Better Call Saul. Wonderful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks, Xeno, for your always thoughtful reply. I will read some Anthony DeMello. I like the idea that the last thing you give up is your idea of God (not that it is the last thing, but that you will give it up). I have always thought that MMY and other gurus who might be genuinely enlightened keep on with the devotion and rules because for some folks it really does get them on the road - even if in the end it was all a game. I don't know how many people benefit from a spiritual path compared to how many get stuck or sidetracked in the muck. I guess we just goe with what occurs I too had an experience where I felt a part of it all - it was about a year after I had learned to meditate. I had just finished my 20 or 30 minutes one evening, went out to the patio and sit and look around. I felt as if my whole head and body expanded and the whole Universe seemed to be slowly spiraling all around. It was a huge black surge filled with stars and light. I assumed it was Reality and illustrated the force of Evolution. Everything, everything was caught up in this spiraling, slow flow. Nothing could escape it - so that any bad or tragic events just got pulled along and made right, over time and in the end, by this flow. It was entirely reassuring, altho not logical, of course. It seemed to mean that everything was alright just as it happened and would be made right somehow over time. It faded a while later, sadly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
An enlightened comedian/teacher. I like it. Laughing all the way there. What fun. And it does remind me of some great moments around MMY - you saw them too. Laugh out loud fun stuff. He did have a great sense of humor. Adyashanti seems pretty careful about the whole guru business. It must be so outrageously tempting to be in those guru positions. In the end, the 2 big essentials are: it helps get students wake up and it does not harm students.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
Xeno, Given what you say about enlightenment, do you think that an already enlightened person would ever start a movement or organization to help others get enlightened? Like Adya? Also, if we assume that there are enlightened people around the world, why do some continue on with the devotion or religion/Hindu path? It sounds as if, according to you, the genuinely enlightened would realize that religion and beliefs and such really can divert a person from what is. But many gurus and leaders seem to take the whole devotion and path approaches seriously.
[FairfieldLife] Bloodline
It is a Netflix production and amazing. The actor Ben Mendelssohn is incredible as a disturbed, back sheep adult returning to visit his family. All about family dynamics in a family who own a hotel in the Florida Keys (always a bit of a seedy spot). Sissy Spacek, Sam Shepard, Kyle Chandler (amazing), Leo Norbert Butz. So gripping I could only watch one episode at a time and had to recover for 24 hours.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bloodline
Give it a try again. It becomes increasingly complex and starts to move along.
[FairfieldLife] Re: China's Tensions With Dalai Lama Spill Into the Afterlife - NYTimes.com
Rick, I saw this too and burst out laughing. This is a once in a lifetime joke on the front page of the NY Times. I cu it out and saved the picture and the article. Just such a great laugh. The Dalai Lama seems to have a terrific sense of humor.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a lot of false information found here
I don't know really, just assumed that as head of the organization he was not charged. But as you say, it very well could be that someone with an extra million dollars did pay for him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: a lot of false information found here
Can you just summarize the Glocal Family chats and tell me about the changes in royalty structure? Are there dues to continue as a raja? Do they retire rajas? How does someone become one now?
[FairfieldLife] Re: a lot of false information found here
Becoming a raja required a donation of about $1 million and attendance at a course in Holland with MMY.Maybe 14 years ago?People like Hagelin etc did not pay the donation (and probably could not) but did attend and got the raja title. Rajas had a special meditation program given to them by MMY. As I recall, nearly 100 people attended and became rajas (or rajeshwaris) Maybe now the title is hereditary, I do not know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When the Beatles met Marshy
Perhaps you have already talked about this, but what has been Jerry's take on the Hammond Nov 30 lecture? Have you heard from your friend who keeps in touch with Jerry?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond Gearing up
Who is Kelvin Chin?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Don't Panic! day review: The Newsroom
Wow, Barry. What a great way to start my day by looking at the Newsroom clip. I now have some winter TV evenings ahead that look to be interesting. Thanks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Don't Panic! day review: The Newsroom
I have enjoyed the first few Web Therapy episodes. Genuinely laugh out loud.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond's Horseshit
And he stood up the entire 3 hours. Started looking tad tired by the end. Curtis's food summary was terrific, the best part it seems. Wish I had some of that. So, when Hammond kept looking to his right,w as he supposed to be communing with the invisible big guys? Despite my concern for Hammond's mental health status, I do have to say that about 25 years ago I had a dream somewhat similar to the one Hammond mentioned. In mine, MMY appeared to me as a small child-sized figure (as he did in Hammond's). I approached him and as I put my arms around him, he grew to his normal height (as he did in Hammond's). An image that has stayed with me. An archetype? Also, from reading about Hammond it seems he has written several books over the years on exactly the kind of things he was mentioning -rational idealism, the lack of a God, atoms and physics -all sorts of things that seemed to come out in the presentation as the ideas of The Movement men like Shankar, Jehovah etc. So it looks as if all their ideas are of the same flavor as Hammond's. They agree with him!! Or he has been in touch with the guys all along, his whole life:)
[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Beautifully put, Curtis. And I agree totally. To me George seems (via internet) a genuinely sincere person and he is responding to entirelyreal perceptions of his. Like most people with hallucinations and other similar brain events, he probably has no way to know what is real real and what seems just as real but is only a function of some neurological events over which he has no control. And given the spiritual background and books over the last many years, it can be impossible to tease apart the healthy metaphysical and the wires gone awry.To me a tip off to this is that his ideas from his books sound awfully similar to the ideas from The Movement men he has been communing with. Yes this could happen to any of us. Given the right set of circumstances. He seems like a really smart, good person - and as you said, a hug and some good help and understanding are what is needed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond's Horseshit
Nope. MMY did not speak. Me either. At the time I was beginning to reconsider my beliefs that I had relied on for all those years. Felt confused and guilty. I think that prompted the dream. I had to pay respects, honor the great gifts as I was growing up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than 40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well. But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension). And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how to begin to make a shift?
[FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
An important new book just came out about capitalism and climate change: This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, by Naomi Klein. But the converted, anti SUV folks are probably the only ones who will read it. The review in today's NY Times called it the most important environmental book since Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. (I gave a book report on Silent Spring in high school, so it made an impression). I will have to pop an antidepressant before reading Klein's book, which I intend to do as soon as the library gets it. I think the gist is that capitalism as we know it cannot continue if we intend to deal with climate change.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I think capitalism is often a good thing, but the problem is that it gets applied to every area - and some things don't flourish under capitalism. some things just don't work well with that approach - like taking care of the disabled, or people getting sick, or old age. People need help from time to time, and the unlucky ones need more help than average. But beyond that, it is going to be a terrible problem to change our approach to the economy, and to begin to somehow not think of success as perpetual growth growing and getting bigger and more profitable. I just cannot imagine how this is going to play out once climate change becomes a scary and very real emergency for us all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
The Depression made a huge impact on people who lived thru it, and I am sure your parents worked super hard and took some risks to finally make it all happen. They do deserve some good life now. But now what is happening is that it is hard for lots of young people to get a decent job - education, good intentions, willingness to work hard, being creative. It seems hard for many young people now, unless you head into computers, entertainment, or Banking and Wall ST. Then you have a huge income - otherwise, not so much. And somehow, in the midst of all this, we have to learn how to live without all the waste and dirty energy use and the conveniences and life styles we enjoy. Hopefullly, Klein will have some wise words to say on it all..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
Ann, I don't read most posters here on FFL and read less and less as time passes. Some I really enjoy, even though they might be rough. I know that many people (not just Barry) can get tough. We all write things that we would not really say in person to someone else. I am sure that is true re 7th ray in this instance. But those words cross a line, for me, given that you can't read Edg's face or sense his mood in person. 7th ray simply made a mistake, I think.You may feel differently. I stick with what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
I never read that Edg had told someone to stop eating and die. Suicide pushes a button for me, obviously. What 7th ray wrote seemed to cross a line, for me. I suspect that Edg himself could care less. And he does not need me to defend him. I just spoke up cause it seemed a harsh response.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
You know 7th ray, you just wrote something really awful. Did you think you were being clever? I know someone whose son, who was struggling with depression, was told, online, to go kill himself by his friend.. This friend thought he was being bold and out there - he dared him to do it. And the young man did kill himself. His father found the entire year's worth of email exchanges. He took them over to this friend's house and showed them to the friend' and his father. Think about what you wrote. Learn from it. Nothing justifies what you wrote.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
I agree. 100%
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
Someone asked, so. What Seventhray wrote in post #396854 is Edge why don't you kill yourself? Seriously why not? That is what I was referring to. Sorry 7th ray, having a son with his own issues that I am sure you are doing your best to handle well, does not excuse that post. Even adults can be upset by words like that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
You nailed it here, Edg. Good summary. Those who had a definite life plan, or a strong desire to have a specific career, or who really wanted to make it or be successful moneywise would never have stayed in the TMO. The people who stuck around or at least gave it a good 10 years in the TMO all went thru some version of what you write about. And you had kids and a comfy life in many ways - so why rock that boat. From what you write, it sounds as if you really truly literally believed those things that were told to you - 5-8 yrs, personality transformation etc. That makes it hard.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My anger is my proof
I think you approached your life events in a very sensible way given the mind-set and group you were part of at that time. You did all the right and smart things to get some answers given that paradigm. Most of us especially when younger, need to belong to something and identify with some approach to life. The TM approach just happened to be not average and you could spend a lot of money doing it. But in more mainstream society there are many people who spend a great deal more money than you did - they buy fancy cars and big homes and take vacations and drink really expensive wine. They buy big diamond rings, etc etc. At least your money and efforts went into trying to get some answers to important issues (altho you did not get the fun and frolic out of your type of spending, that is for sure). Cut yourself some slack, Edg. That cancer diagnosis, though, really sorry to hear of that. That would make anyone cynical. YOu were taken advantage of.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sam Harris Book
It was delivered to my doorstep the other day and just a few pages I enjoy his writing style - he is clear and articulate and really nails things. I will read it this weekend. And Barry, as you know, he says there is no self (ha, we have been thru this many times)!!
[FairfieldLife] Interview with Sam Harris at the New York Times opinionator: there is no self
Sam Harris's Vanishing Self http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/sam-harriss-vanishing-self/? http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/sam-harriss-vanishing-self/ Sam Harris's Vanishing Self http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/sam-harriss-vanishing-self/ The well-known New Atheist makes a case for the value of “spirituality,” which he bases on his experiences in meditation. View on opinionator.blogs.nyti... http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/sam-harriss-vanishing-self/ Preview by Yahoo
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
Lawrence Krauss. He is very popular and on the speaker circuit of physicists and astronomers since he is engaging and super smart. He teaches at Arizona State U and began the Origins Project there. He often talks about how the Universe came out of Nothing, and how that can be. I would love to listen to Krauss and Hagelin talk. Sam Harris, however, talks of his own experiences that many people would interpret as spiritual or religious - and so he would probably be on target in discussions with Hagelin. Harris's new book, Waking Up: A guide to spirituality without religion, comes out next week, and he will be in demand to discuss it. Perhaps this would be the perfect time for him to be on BatGap. Altho I have not checked, I am sure you can find Krauss all over the internet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?
Glad you are still here. I too have taken long stretches of time off from FFL. You might enjoy The 100 foot Journey with Helen Mirren. Fluff but charming. Movie attendance in the US has been way way down this summer. Much of the best stuff is on TV. Here in the US a really big issue these days in medical marijuana, its uses, which states allow it and in what manner. Another tidbit, financial planners are now routinely telling people to expect to have to make their savings last til age 95. Conservative planners use age 100, especially for younger people. A new and longer life span, and the need to save more and retire later. Are you eligible for social support living in the Netherlands in addition to social security from the US?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?
It of course depends on how you want to live, your skills, your saving money savy,whether you get social security and a pension. It will be really interesting to see what people do in the next 30 years. Many have not worked long enough to support a 35 year retirement. I know of several extended families that are living under one roof - the 30 year olds move back in with the parents because they cannot afford a house or rental, then they help their parents (our age) with rent and chores. and the parents get to be around their grandchildren. I would expect that this will become more and more typical since it helps everyone with finances as well as socializing. I look forward to seeing what the millenials will be doing in all sorts of areas- social policy, climate change, jobs, food, belief systems. Maybe I am too optimistic, but I think they might do some terrific things (most especially to deal with global warming).
[FairfieldLife] Where is Barry Wright?
I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
Barry, I am not suggesting following his advice - just clarifying what Mike had written. I never heard MMY say anything about donating 6% to charities. Nice article in today's NYTimes front section, Awakening the Dutch Gene of Water Survival. Page A6
[FairfieldLife] Re: The national stupid love the Supremes today
B, I alway like your views and the way you state them. I vote for you to run things and solve it all. But only if you make climate change your number 1 priority. Nothing else matters really.single payer has always been the only sensible way to go, but by the time people realize that it will be too late.
