Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-22 Thread hondosavg...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 "...“a full-out assault on the Second Amendment." - Mark Levin
 

 Levin: Senate Gun Control Debate Is a Full-Out Assault on Second Amendment 
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/rachel-hoover/levin-senate-gun-control-debate-full-out-assault-second-amendment
 
 
 
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/rachel-hoover/levin-senate-gun-control-debate-full-out-assault-second-amendment
 
 
 Levin: Senate Gun Control Debate Is a Full-Out Assault... 
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/rachel-hoover/levin-senate-gun-control-debate-full-out-assault-second-amendment
 On his show Monday, nationally syndicated radio show host Mark Levin discussed 
the Senate’s gun control debate, calling it “a full-out assault on the Second 
Amendme...
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

 

  


Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-22 Thread hondosavg...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 Regulation is futile.
 

 "But all this gun control is really about putting those bitter clingers in 
Flyover Country in their place, and asserting the supremacy of bi-coastal 
power. So that it won’t do much to limit guns isn’t a big objection, because 
that’s not what it’s really meant to do anyway." - Glenn Reynolds
 

 Flyover Nation: You Can't Run a Country You've Never Been To
 Instapundit » Blog Archive » REGULATION IS FUTILE: After Orlando, the Homemade 
AR-15 Industry Surges. Guns are pretty easy to m… 
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236846/ 
 
 Instapundit » Blog Archive » REGULATION IS FUTILE: After Orlando, the Homemade 
AR-15 I... https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236846/ June 22, 2016 REGULATION IS 
FUTILE: After Orlando, the Homemade AR-15 Industry Surges. Guns are pretty easy 
to make, and modern tools make them much easier. 
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 All of Germany was disarmed.
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses 
the Holocaust might never have happened!

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town. 

 Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and 
home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it. 
They just come and take a report.

 Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were 
completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way with them.
  The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
 The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and wanted the people armed 
and dangerous for any tyrant. They didn't want the people to fear the 
government, they wanted the government to fear the people. That is the primary 
reason for the second amendment.

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
   As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun 
laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry 
permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very shallow 
and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what the gun laws are 
in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entry 
would be sufficient though folks could look up the legislation for even more 
depth.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
 
 Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on.  Few of those post here.
 
 One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist explain 
the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.  Also there was 
some puzzlement from military folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to 
kill 50 people without reloading clips multiple times giving an opportunity to 
jump him.  This leads to speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  
Also Russ Baker, an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the 
shooter:
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orl

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sometimes we don't put use real name because we might get attacked or get 
kicked out of school, or somebody might get mad and try to get us fired from 
our day job. It's probably better that way, on a Yahoo Group discussion. 
 

 That's fine, I understand. Luckily I can't get fired or kicked out of school 
and I don't think I've really ever written anything here that I don't want 
others to see otherwise I wouldn't have put it on the internet! I'm a believer 
in standing behind what I say and letting others know who is saying it, that's 
all. Also, I find some use anonymity as a means to be really horrible as 
posters. That isn't always the case though, there was once a buy named Barry 
who was really odious and he used his real name...I changed it (his name) for 
him though. Those were the good old days.
 

 Freudian slip? I meant " a GUY named Barry... not a buy.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 No one is attacking Mike, we're having a conversation, Mr anonymous. Show your 
face, LOL. I'm a big believer in not hiding/posting behind fake names. My 
philosophy is - if it's important enough to say, it's important enough to put 
your real name behind it. But that's just me.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

 



  




 
  








Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sometimes we don't put use real name because we might get attacked or get 
kicked out of school, or somebody might get mad and try to get us fired from 
our day job. It's probably better that way, on a Yahoo Group discussion. 
 

 That's fine, I understand. Luckily I can't get fired or kicked out of school 
and I don't think I've really ever written anything here that I don't want 
others to see otherwise I wouldn't have put it on the internet! I'm a believer 
in standing behind what I say and letting others know who is saying it, that's 
all. Also, I find some use anonymity as a means to be really horrible as 
posters. That isn't always the case though, there was once a buy named Barry 
who was really odious and he used his real name...I changed it (his name) for 
him though. Those were the good old days.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 No one is attacking Mike, we're having a conversation, Mr anonymous. Show your 
face, LOL. I'm a big believer in not hiding/posting behind fake names. My 
philosophy is - if it's important enough to say, it's important enough to put 
your real name behind it. But that's just me.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

 



  




 
  






Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-19 Thread hondosavg...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 Sometimes we don't put use real name because we might get attacked or get 
kicked out of school, or somebody might get mad and try to get us fired from 
our day job. It's probably better that way, on a Yahoo Group discussion. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 No one is attacking Mike, we're having a conversation, Mr anonymous. Show your 
face, LOL. I'm a big believer in not hiding/posting behind fake names. My 
philosophy is - if it's important enough to say, it's important enough to put 
your real name behind it. But that's just me.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

 



  




 
  




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike & all The English Bill of Rights of 1688 guaranteed such to English men It dates back to Edward the III all English men to use & b proficient with the cross bow.

2016-06-18 Thread William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]
In hte Glorious Revolution of 1688 the rt to bear arm was delineated to all 
FREE , White PROTESTANT Englishmen, now & FOREVER  & in each or hte various 
English Bill of Rights of 1688,enacted by our Parliament & the co Rulers King 
William of Orange & his co ruler Mary. Our framer knew this & so did much of 
our populous then & desired such on our Federal constitution as well as some 
state ones !



-Original Message-
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike





Seems there are problems in the UK  these days as reported by some of our 
members who live there.  At  the moment no one from Australia is posting 
here.
  
  On 06/18/2016 12:36 PM, feste37 wrote:


 

And of course, we all know that the poor citizens of  Australia and 
Britain, who are not permitted to own guns,  are suffering under 
terrible tyrannical governments. 



  
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
  
  
Yes, if only the Jews hadhad a pistol or two lying around in 
their houses theHolocaust might never have happened!


  
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
  
  

  
Feste, I don't know where you live butFairfield is a 
quiet little town. 
  
  
Try living in a major city where crimeis rampant with 
armed robberies and homeinvasions. People have a right 
to defendthemselves. Police can't do it. They just come 
   and take a report.
  
  
Take that to another level. The Jews,as well as the 
rest of Germany, were completelydisarmed by the Nazis  
and the  Nazis had theirway with them.
  
 The last thing a tyrant wants isresistance.
  
The founding fathers of our countryforesaw this and 
wanted the people armed anddangerous for any tyrant. 
They didn't want thepeople to fear the government, they 
wanted thegovernment to fear the people. That is the
primary reason for the second amendment.
  
  
  


  
  

  

 
 From:feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Saturday, 
June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
Subject:    Re: 
[FairfieldLife] For Mike
  


  

   

  

As  far as Iowa is concerned, I 
 remember reading a while back  
that the gun laws have been 
 loosened. It used to be that   
   if you wanted a concealed  carry 
permit, you had to say  why you needed 
it. Now, you  just get issued with it, 
no  questions asked, apparently. 
  
  In Fairfield, I doubt that
  there are many people who 
 carry a concealed weapon.  
There is no need for such a  thing 
here. I would like to  ask such people 
what they are  frightened of. I read 
another  

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Seems there are problems in the UK these days as reported by some of our 
members who live there.  At the moment no one from Australia is posting 
here.


On 06/18/2016 12:36 PM, feste37 wrote:


And of course, we all know that the poor citizens of Australia and 
Britain, who are not permitted to own guns, are suffering under 
terrible tyrannical governments.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their 
houses the Holocaust might never have happened!



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town.
Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies 
and home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police 
can't do it. They just come and take a report.
Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, 
were completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way 
with them.

 The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and wanted the people 
armed and dangerous for any tyrant. They didn't want the people to 
fear the government, they wanted the government to fear the people. 
That is the primary reason for the second amendment.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the 
gun laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a 
concealed carry permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you 
just get issued with it, no questions asked, apparently.


In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed 
weapon. There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask 
such people what they are frightened of. I read another article based 
on some kind of research that pointed out that if people are in an 
environment where they know there are guns, they will be more tensed 
up and aggressive. I think that is likely among gun carriers too. They 
are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is more likely to 
attract aggression from others rather than repel it.


Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in 
US history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and 
put an end to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including 
the erroneous notion that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry 
a gun.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very 
shallow and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what 
the gun laws are in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion. Even 
the Wikipedia entry would be sufficient though folks could look up the 
legislation for even more depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been 
to Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the 
population that no longer follows the TMO. They've moved on. Few of 
those post here.


One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist 
explain the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons. 
Also there was some puzzlement from military folks about how the 
Orlando gunman was able to kill 50 people without reloading clips 
multiple times giving an opportunity to jump him.  This leads to 
speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  Also Russ Baker, 
an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the shooter:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the 
agenda of their wealthy owners.



On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too 
long ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected 
to daily, gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary 
and also stupid.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...> 
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :


Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the 
populace own guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover 
by a coup d'etat (which some will maintain has already happened in 
the US and is taking it's time for complete takeover with replacement 
of the Constitution by the Patriot Act).  However nothing wrong with 
disallowing the ownership of automatic weapons.  Most folks here 
though probably don't know  the differen

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
You might want to look up Hitler's "Enabling Act of 1934" where they 
took away guns in Germany.  You might also want to look up the 
comparison between it and our despicable Patriot Act which seems to be 
intended to replace our Constitution.


On 06/18/2016 10:48 AM, feste37 wrote:


Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their 
houses the Holocaust might never have happened!




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town.
Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies 
and home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police 
can't do it. They just come and take a report.
Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, 
were completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way 
with them.

 The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and wanted the people 
armed and dangerous for any tyrant. They didn't want the people to 
fear the government, they wanted the government to fear the people. 
That is the primary reason for the second amendment.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the 
gun laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a 
concealed carry permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you 
just get issued with it, no questions asked, apparently.


In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed 
weapon. There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask 
such people what they are frightened of. I read another article based 
on some kind of research that pointed out that if people are in an 
environment where they know there are guns, they will be more tensed 
up and aggressive. I think that is likely among gun carriers too. They 
are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is more likely to 
attract aggression from others rather than repel it.


Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in 
US history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and 
put an end to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including 
the erroneous notion that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry 
a gun.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very 
shallow and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what 
the gun laws are in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  
Even the Wikipedia entry would be sufficient though folks could look 
up the legislation for even more depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been 
to Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the 
population that no longer follows the TMO. They've moved on. Few of 
those post here.


One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist 
explain the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons. 
Also there was some puzzlement from military folks about how the 
Orlando gunman was able to kill 50 people without reloading clips 
multiple times giving an opportunity to jump him. This leads to 
speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  Also Russ Baker, 
an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the shooter:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the 
agenda of their wealthy owners.



On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too 
long ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected 
to daily, gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary 
and also stupid.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...> 
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :


Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the 
populace own guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover 
by a coup d'etat (which some will maintain has already happened in 
the US and is taking it's time for complete takeover with replacement 
of the Constitution by the Patriot Act). However nothing wrong with 
disallowing the ownership of automatic weapons. Most folks here 
though probably don't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remote Fairfield.


On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 06/18/2016 10:10 AM, feste37 wrote:


As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the 
gun laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a 
concealed carry permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you 
just get issued with it, no questions asked, apparently.


In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed 
weapon. There is no need for such a thing here.




Until there is a need for such and it is too late.


I would like to ask such people what they are frightened of.



I have a friend who had a concealed weapons permit when she lived near 
Lake Merritt in Oakland.  Might be a good idea there.


I read another article based on some kind of research that pointed out 
that if people are in an environment where they know there are guns, 
they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely 
among gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my 
view that is more likely to attract aggression from others rather than 
repel it.




Not quite seeing that here where open carry is permissible.



Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in 
US history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and 
put an end to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including 
the erroneous notion that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry 
a gun.




Then owning a gun will become a 1st Amendment issue.  Gotta think this 
through a bit more because cars kill more people per year than guns but 
we aren't talking about banning cars.  You can't in a country like the 
US which is so spread out that only autos made sense.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very 
shallow and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what 
the gun laws are in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  
Even the Wikipedia entry would be sufficient though folks could look 
up the legislation for even more depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been 
to Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the 
population that no longer follows the TMO. They've moved on. Few of 
those post here.


One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist 
explain the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.  
Also there was some puzzlement from military folks about how the 
Orlando gunman was able to kill 50 people without reloading clips 
multiple times giving an opportunity to jump him.  This leads to 
speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  Also Russ Baker, 
an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the shooter:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the 
agenda of their wealthy owners.


On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too 
long ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected 
to daily, gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary 
and also stupid.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...> 
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :


Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the 
populace own guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover 
by a coup d'etat (which some will maintain has already happened in 
the US and is taking it's time for complete takeover with replacement 
of the Constitution by the Patriot Act).  However nothing wrong with 
disallowing the ownership of automatic weapons.  Most folks here 
though probably don't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remote Fairfield.


On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
<mailto:mdixon.6569@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:


http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/









"Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment,
Well-Regulated

We hear it constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The
argument goes something like this. “You want to...


<http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/>

Here you go.



*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife]>
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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*Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For Mike












Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Tomorrow is another day


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 2:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    And of course, we all know that the poor citizens of Australia and Britain, 
who are not permitted to own guns, are suffering under terrible tyrannical 
governments. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses the 
Holocaust might never have happened!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town. 
Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and home 
invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it. They 
just come and take a report.
Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were 
completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way with them. The 
last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.The founding fathers of our country 
foresaw this and wanted the people armed and dangerous for any tyrant. They 
didn't want the people to fear the government, they wanted the government to 
fear the people. That is the primary reason for the second amendment.


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun laws 
have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry permit, 
you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way thediscussion was coming off, very shallow and 
uninformed.  At leastsomeone could have posted the what the gun laws are in the 
US tomake for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entrywould be 
sufficient though folks could look up the legislation foreven more depth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I'vebeen to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part ofthe population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on. Few of those post here.

One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was ajournalist explain the 
difference between automatic andsemi-automatic weapons.  Also there was some 
puzzlement frommilitary folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to kill 
50people without reloading clips multiple times giving anopportunity to jump 
him.  This leads to speculation of a secondgunman and a "staged event".  Also 
Russ Baker, an investigativereporter, raises some issues about the shooter:
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfillthe agenda of 
their wealthy owners.


 

 On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:




  This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL(actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people wholive in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitousattacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and alsostupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...>wrote :

SecondAmendment aside, I stillmaintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns asit tends tothwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat(which 
somewill maintain has already happened in the US and istaking it'stime for 
complete takeover with replacement of theConstitution bythe Patriot Act).  
However nothing wrong withdisallowing theownership of automatic weapons.  Most 
folks herethough probablydon't know  the difference between an automatic 
andsemi-automaticdue to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
inremoteFairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wr

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
All of Germany was disarmed.


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses 
the Holocaust might never have happened!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town. 
Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and home 
invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it. They 
just come and take a report.
Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were 
completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way with them. The 
last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.The founding fathers of our country 
foresaw this and wanted the people armed and dangerous for any tyrant. They 
didn't want the people to fear the government, they wanted the government to 
fear the people. That is the primary reason for the second amendment.


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun laws 
have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry permit, 
you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way thediscussion was coming off, very shallow and 
uninformed.  At leastsomeone could have posted the what the gun laws are in the 
US tomake for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entrywould be 
sufficient though folks could look up the legislation foreven more depth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I'vebeen to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part ofthe population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on. Few of those post here.

One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was ajournalist explain the 
difference between automatic andsemi-automatic weapons.  Also there was some 
puzzlement frommilitary folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to kill 
50people without reloading clips multiple times giving anopportunity to jump 
him.  This leads to speculation of a secondgunman and a "staged event".  Also 
Russ Baker, an investigativereporter, raises some issues about the shooter:
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfillthe agenda of 
their wealthy owners.

 

 On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:



  This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL(actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people wholive in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitousattacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and alsostupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...>wrote :

SecondAmendment aside, I stillmaintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns asit tends tothwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat(which 
somewill maintain has already happened in the US and istaking it'stime for 
complete takeover with replacement of theConstitution bythe Patriot Act).  
However nothing wrong withdisallowing theownership of automatic weapons.  Most 
folks herethough probablydon't know  the difference between an automatic 
andsemi-automaticdue to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
inremoteFairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/

 
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"Well-Regulated"-Bearing Arms -SecondAmendment,Well-Regulated
We hear it constantly from droningcitizen controlcultists.The argument 
goessom

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37
And of course, we all know that the poor citizens of Australia and Britain, who 
are not permitted to own guns, are suffering under terrible tyrannical 
governments. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses the 
Holocaust might never have happened!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town. 

 Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and 
home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it. 
They just come and take a report.

 Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were 
completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way with them.
  The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
 The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and wanted the people armed 
and dangerous for any tyrant. They didn't want the people to fear the 
government, they wanted the government to fear the people. That is the primary 
reason for the second amendment.

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun 
laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry 
permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very shallow 
and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what the gun laws are 
in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entry 
would be sufficient though folks could look up the legislation for even more 
depth.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
 
 Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on.  Few of those post here.
 
 One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist explain 
the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.  Also there was 
some puzzlement from military folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to 
kill 50 people without reloading clips multiple times giving an opportunity to 
jump him.  This leads to speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  
Also Russ Baker, an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the 
shooter:
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
 
 The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the agenda of 
their wealthy owners.
 
 On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:
 
   This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long 
ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of aut

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37
Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses the 
Holocaust might never have happened!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town. 

 Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and 
home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it. 
They just come and take a report.

 Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were 
completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way with them.
  The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
 The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and wanted the people armed 
and dangerous for any tyrant. They didn't want the people to fear the 
government, they wanted the government to fear the people. That is the primary 
reason for the second amendment.

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun 
laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry 
permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very shallow 
and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what the gun laws are 
in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entry 
would be sufficient though folks could look up the legislation for even more 
depth.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
 
 Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on.  Few of those post here.
 
 One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist explain 
the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.  Also there was 
some puzzlement from military folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to 
kill 50 people without reloading clips multiple times giving an opportunity to 
jump him.  This leads to speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  
Also Russ Baker, an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the 
shooter:
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
 
 The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the agenda of 
their wealthy owners.
 
 On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:
 
   This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long 
ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... ma

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town. 
Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and home 
invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it. They 
just come and take a report.
Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were 
completely disarmed by the Nazis  and the  Nazis had their way with them. The 
last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.The founding fathers of our country 
foresaw this and wanted the people armed and dangerous for any tyrant. They 
didn't want the people to fear the government, they wanted the government to 
fear the people. That is the primary reason for the second amendment.


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun 
laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry 
permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way thediscussion was coming off, very shallow and 
uninformed.  At leastsomeone could have posted the what the gun laws are in the 
US tomake for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entrywould be 
sufficient though folks could look up the legislation foreven more depth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I'vebeen to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part ofthe population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on. Few of those post here.

One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was ajournalist explain the 
difference between automatic andsemi-automatic weapons.  Also there was some 
puzzlement frommilitary folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to kill 
50people without reloading clips multiple times giving anopportunity to jump 
him.  This leads to speculation of a secondgunman and a "staged event".  Also 
Russ Baker, an investigativereporter, raises some issues about the shooter:
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfillthe agenda of 
their wealthy owners.


 On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:


  This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL(actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people wholive in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitousattacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and alsostupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...>wrote :

SecondAmendment aside, I stillmaintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns asit tends tothwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat(which 
somewill maintain has already happened in the US and istaking it'stime for 
complete takeover with replacement of theConstitution bythe Patriot Act).  
However nothing wrong withdisallowing theownership of automatic weapons.  Most 
folks herethough probablydon't know  the difference between an automatic 
andsemi-automaticdue to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
inremoteFairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/

 
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  From:"awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject:[FairfieldLife] For Mike

 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37
As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun laws 
have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry permit, 
you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no 
questions asked, apparently. 

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon. 
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what 
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research 
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are 
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among 
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is 
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it. 

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US 
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end 
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion 
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very shallow 
and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what the gun laws are 
in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the Wikipedia entry 
would be sufficient though folks could look up the legislation for even more 
depth.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
 
 Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the population that no 
longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on.  Few of those post here.
 
 One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist explain 
the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.  Also there was 
some puzzlement from military folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to 
kill 50 people without reloading clips multiple times giving an opportunity to 
jump him.  This leads to speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".  
Also Russ Baker, an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the 
shooter:
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
 
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
 
 The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the agenda of 
their wealthy owners.
 
 On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:
 
   This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long 
ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/
 http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.
 
 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   
 




 
 








 



 




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very 
shallow and uninformed.  At least someone could have posted the what the 
gun laws are in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion.  Even the 
Wikipedia entry would be sufficient though folks could look up the 
legislation for even more depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi".  I've been to 
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the population 
that no longer follows the TMO.  They've moved on. Few of those post here.


One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist 
explain the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.  
Also there was some puzzlement from military folks about how the Orlando 
gunman was able to kill 50 people without reloading clips multiple times 
giving an opportunity to jump him.  This leads to speculation of a 
second gunman and a "staged event".  Also Russ Baker, an investigative 
reporter, raises some issues about the shooter:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the 
agenda of their wealthy owners.


On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:


This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too 
long ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected 
to daily, gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and 
also stupid.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the 
populace own guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover 
by a coup d'etat (which some will maintain has already happened in the 
US and is taking it's time for complete takeover with replacement of 
the Constitution by the Patriot Act).  However nothing wrong with 
disallowing the ownership of automatic weapons.  Most folks here 
though probably don't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remote Fairfield.


On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
<mailto:mdixon.6569@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:


http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/









"Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated

We hear it constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The
argument goes something like this. “You want to...


<http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/>

Here you go.



*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife]>
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
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*Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For Mike










Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'll leave that up to younger and more spry folks.


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 9:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    That's good to hear, Mike. I had assumed you were armed to the teeth to 
protect yourself from marauding bands of illegal immigrants and radical 
Muslims. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

LOL. I've been around for years and have had worse said about me, constantly. I 
don't usually take things personally. It's like water off of a ducks back for 
me.As for guns, I don't currently own any. I have in the past but have found 
little need for one now. But I do respect their legal and appropriate use.  I 
do hunt but it's with my falcons. I just coordinate an event that happens 
naturally so that I can witness natures 
ballet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k


 
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   From: "hondosavgae2@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Second Amendment aside, I stillmaintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends tothwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat (which 
somewill maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it'stime for 
complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution bythe Patriot Act).  
However nothing wrong with disallowing theownership of automatic weapons.  Most 
folks here though probablydon't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automaticdue to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remoteFairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:



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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37
That's good to hear, Mike. I had assumed you were armed to the teeth to protect 
yourself from marauding bands of illegal immigrants and radical Muslims. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 LOL. I've been around for years and have had worse said about me, constantly. 
I don't usually take things personally. It's like water off of a ducks back for 
me.
 As for guns, I don't currently own any. I have in the past but have found 
little need for one now. But I do respect their legal and appropriate use.  I 
do hunt but it's with my falcons. I just coordinate an event that happens 
naturally so that I can witness natures 
ballet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k


 

 "The Boys" Sterner Hybrids Hit Harder #2 Black Gyr/Peregrine Hybrids catch 
sage grouse. From the documentary film: "Look Up and Wave Your Glove"... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k
 




 


 From: "hondosavgae2@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
   

 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.





  

 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL. I've been around for years and have had worse said about me, constantly. I 
don't usually take things personally. It's like water off of a ducks back for 
me.As for guns, I don't currently own any. I have in the past but have found 
little need for one now. But I do respect their legal and appropriate use.  I 
do hunt but it's with my falcons. I just coordinate an event that happens 
naturally so that I can witness natures 
ballet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k


  
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   From: "hondosavg...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
  
    
It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Second Amendment aside, I stillmaintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends tothwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat (which 
somewill maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it'stime for 
complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution bythe Patriot Act).  
However nothing wrong with disallowing theownership of automatic weapons.  Most 
folks here though probablydon't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automaticdue to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remoteFairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:


  http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't think anyone is *attacking* anyone here. 
That being said, there has been an awful lot of personal attacks in the past. 
The Judy/Barry wars had  gotten extremely personal, boring and predictable. 
Each one had to have the *last word* which made them drag out endlessly. But 
they weren't the only ones. I tried to stay out of the personal attacks but 
when I found myself going there, would back off.While my opinions differ 
greatly from most people on the forum There have only been one or two that I 
have genuinely disliked and one was kicked off by Yahoo as I understand.


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long 
ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, 
gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Second Amendment aside, I stillmaintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends tothwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat (which 
somewill maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it'stime for 
complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution bythe Patriot Act).  
However nothing wrong with disallowing theownership of automatic weapons.  Most 
folks here though probablydon't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automaticdue to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remoteFairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/

 
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Here you go.


  From:"awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject:[FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
 


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.
 

 No one is attacking Mike, we're having a conversation, Mr anonymous. Show your 
face, LOL. I'm a big believer in not hiding/posting behind fake names. My 
philosophy is - if it's important enough to say, it's important enough to put 
your real name behind it. But that's just me.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

 



  




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread hondosavg...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

 



  


Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread hondosavg...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37
This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.
 
 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   
 




 
 








 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-17 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Marking this down again as a total agreement with Bhairitu.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace 
own guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some  will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
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From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
  
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-17 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the 
populace own guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by 
a coup d'etat (which some will maintain has already happened in the US 
and is taking it's time for complete takeover with replacement of the 
Constitution by the Patriot Act).  However nothing wrong with 
disallowing the ownership of automatic weapons.  Most folks here though 
probably don't know  the difference between an automatic and 
semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living in 
remote Fairfield.


On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/









"Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated

We hear it constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The 
argument goes something like this. “You want to...



<http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/>

Here you go.



*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For Mike

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-17 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-17 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Damn woman! You drive a hard bargain. OK, I'll throw in thirty round magazines 
but you have to take the Jehovah Witnesses also!
 

 I'll even take the Moonies and Hare Krishnas, now give me your ammo.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ann, the art of politics involves compromise. I want something. You want 
something. You want a piece of my second amendment rights denied. I'll give you 
my assault weapons( I keep all others) in exchange for a first amendment 
sacrifice on your part. No more Islamic immigration( all other religions 
untouched). You can collect all existing assault weapons from their owners if 
all existing Muslims are deported.
 
 Fair?   My constitutional rights for yours.
 

 Nope, giving up killing machines (who really needs them?) is not a fair 
exchange for practicing exclusion based on fear and hate in the form of closing 
the country made up of, guess what, immigrants. If you're so anxious to have a 
chance to protect yourself from assailants then the two of you go out and duke 
it out, like real men. Would the world be worse off if guns had never been 
invented (rhetorical question but think about it)? Of course it wouldn't. If 
the weapons invented, be they arrowhead or knife or gun, had only been, 
magically, allowed to kill game for meat how different do you think the world 
would be today? Aggression would have meant hand to hand combat sans weapons - 
something only imaginable in a fairy tale. 
 

 And it goes without saying that assault weapons should be banned and most 
likely will be if this keeps up so you giving them up is no biggie. However, 
exporting everyone of one religion and disallowing others from that same 
religion from entering the country is preposterous as well as amazingly 
horrifying to me. You should seriously re-examine what you believe and are 
thinking. You have been hoodwinked, badly. Now here are some fascinating 
statistics:
 

 Mass Shooting Tracker https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data 
 
 Mass Shooting Tracker https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data Mass shooting 
tracker: A crowd sourced database of U.S. mass shootings.


 
 View on www.massshootingtracker.org https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us 
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
   
 


 















 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Damn woman! You drive a hard bargain. OK, I'll throw in thirty round magazines 
but you have to take the Jehovah Witnesses also!


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ann, the art of politics involves compromise. I want something. You want 
something. You want a piece of my second amendment rights denied. I'll give you 
my assault weapons( I keep all others) in exchange for a first amendment 
sacrifice on your part. No more Islamic immigration( all other religions 
untouched). You can collect all existing assault weapons from their owners if 
all existing Muslims are deported.
Fair?   My constitutional rights for yours.
Nope, giving up killing machines (who really needs them?) is not a fair 
exchange for practicing exclusion based on fear and hate in the form of closing 
the country made up of, guess what, immigrants. If you're so anxious to have a 
chance to protect yourself from assailants then the two of you go out and duke 
it out, like real men. Would the world be worse off if guns had never been 
invented (rhetorical question but think about it)? Of course it wouldn't. If 
the weapons invented, be they arrowhead or knife or gun, had only been, 
magically, allowed to kill game for meat how different do you think the world 
would be today? Aggression would have meant hand to hand combat sans weapons - 
something only imaginable in a fairy tale. 
And it goes without saying that assault weapons should be banned and most 
likely will be if this keeps up so you giving them up is no biggie. However, 
exporting everyone of one religion and disallowing others from that same 
religion from entering the country is preposterous as well as amazingly 
horrifying to me. You should seriously re-examine what you believe and are 
thinking. You have been hoodwinked, badly. Now here are some fascinating 
statistics:
Mass Shooting Tracker 
||
||   Mass Shooting Tracker  Mass shooting tracker: A crowd sourced 
database of U.S. mass shootings.||
|  View on www.massshootingtracker.org  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

 
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ann, the art of politics involves compromise. I want something. You want 
something. You want a piece of my second amendment rights denied. I'll give you 
my assault weapons( I keep all others) in exchange for a first amendment 
sacrifice on your part. No more Islamic immigration( all other religions 
untouched). You can collect all existing assault weapons from their owners if 
all existing Muslims are deported.
 
 Fair?   My constitutional rights for yours.
 

 Nope, giving up killing machines (who really needs them?) is not a fair 
exchange for practicing exclusion based on fear and hate in the form of closing 
the country made up of, guess what, immigrants. If you're so anxious to have a 
chance to protect yourself from assailants then the two of you go out and duke 
it out, like real men. Would the world be worse off if guns had never been 
invented (rhetorical question but think about it)? Of course it wouldn't. If 
the weapons invented, be they arrowhead or knife or gun, had only been, 
magically, allowed to kill game for meat how different do you think the world 
would be today? Aggression would have meant hand to hand combat sans weapons - 
something only imaginable in a fairy tale. 
 

 And it goes without saying that assault weapons should be banned and most 
likely will be if this keeps up so you giving them up is no biggie. However, 
exporting everyone of one religion and disallowing others from that same 
religion from entering the country is preposterous as well as amazingly 
horrifying to me. You should seriously re-examine what you believe and are 
thinking. You have been hoodwinked, badly. Now here are some fascinating 
statistics:
 

 Mass Shooting Tracker https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data 
 
 Mass Shooting Tracker https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data Mass shooting 
tracker: A crowd sourced database of U.S. mass shootings.
 
 
 
 View on www.massshootingtracker.org https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 

 

 http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us 
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   
 


 

 














Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm having a premonition here. No I didn't think you'd go for either.

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    Ann, the art of politics involves compromise. I want something. You want 
something. You want a piece of my second amendment rights denied. I'll give you 
my assault weapons( I keep all others) in exchange for a first amendment 
sacrifice on your part. No more Islamic immigration( all other religions 
untouched). You can collect all existing assault weapons from their owners if 
all existing Muslims are deported.
Fair?   My constitutional rights for yours.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
  
    
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, the art of politics involves compromise. I want something. You want 
something. You want a piece of my second amendment rights denied. I'll give you 
my assault weapons( I keep all others) in exchange for a first amendment 
sacrifice on your part. No more Islamic immigration( all other religions 
untouched). You can collect all existing assault weapons from their owners if 
all existing Muslims are deported.
Fair?   My constitutional rights for yours.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'd have to have a pretty serious case of Parkinson's to be able to pull a 
trigger 13.3 times per second!


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    Well they should've said so!


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
  
    
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well they should've said so!


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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-14 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
H. Notice, though out the video it calls the AR-15 and assault *style* 
weapon.It doesn't qualify by legal definition as an assault weapon.
Then in the video it say that one can go to a gun show and buy a fully 
automatic AR-15 yada yada yada, which would be an assault weapon.
No you can't. 
 You can buy a semi automatic weapon. Most deer hunting rifles are 
semi-automatic and can fire just as fast.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:45 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/14/the-orlando-shooter-bought-his-guns-legally-which-is-exactly-why-gun-laws-matter/
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-14 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/14/the-orlando-shooter-bought-his-guns-legally-which-is-exactly-why-gun-laws-matter/
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/14/the-orlando-shooter-bought-his-guns-legally-which-is-exactly-why-gun-laws-matter/



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-28 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 a shade of grey with regard to Donald Trump, from the NYT today. 

 How the G.O.P. Elite Lost Its Voters to Donald Trump 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-voters.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FTrump%2C%20Donald%20J.=click=timestopics=stream=stream_unit=latest=5=collection&_r=0
 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-voters.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FTrump%2C%20Donald%20J.=click=timestopics=stream=stream_unit=latest=5=collection&_r=0
 
 
 How the G.O.P. Elite Lost Its Voters to Donald Trump 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-voters.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FTrump%2C%20Donald%20J.=click=timestopics=stream=stream_unit=latest=5=collection&_r=0
 The party establishment abandoned its most faithful voters, blue-collar 
workers who faced economic pain while donors, lawmakers and lobbyists prospered.
 
 
 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-voters.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FTrump%2C%20Donald%20J.=click=timestopics=stream=stream_unit=latest=5=collection&_r=0
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 I fail to see any of the individuals that you have pictured as having 
accomplished anything on the scale that Al Qaeda or ISIS has.

 They are for the most part Freaking individual nuts. 

 ISIS is an organization that represents an ideology based on a political 
religion that tolerates no other ideologies. BIG DIFFERENCE!
 So, I guess you can live with how Islamic culture treats women and other 
minority groups because  diversity is a wonderful thing to be experienced!

 

 I enjoy a good discussion as much as the next guy but your lack of ability to 
reason and conclude rationally has defeated me. You are invested, heartily, in 
believing what you do to the point where you are becoming hysterical and 
jumping to all sorts of erroneous assumptions and conclusions. Live in your 
small shell of fear, mistrust and animosity - you have made that choice. But 
rest assured, you will never - and those close to you will never - become the 
victim of any terrorist attack on American soil between now and when you die. 
More likely, you will be hit and killed by some drunk driver, or break your 
neck falling off a step ladder.
 

 And BTW, I now know what fuels Trump's popularity. This has been an 
interesting and fruitful discussion with you in this regard. It is something 
that, up to this point, has largely eluded me but you have gone a long way to 
show me that otherwise seemingly rational and "normal" Americans are not so 
rational and normal after all - not when it comes to unwarranted fears and 
prejudices against those they have been convinced by others are going to 
threaten their livelihood and way of life. You are being used, Mikey, in an 
agenda that will accomplish exactly what you fear will happen but it will be 
accomplished by people like yourselves and all those who drive your 
irrationality. That is the irony of it all - you are the creator of your own 
worst nightmare and you are already living it in your mind before it even 
happens.

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So you want to add to the problems that already exist.
 

 False conclusion, Mike. I am making a point that aberrational human beings are 
just that, aberrational, irrespective of whatever country or culture they come 
from. And America has its share, for sure, irrespective of their color or race. 
Why you insist on harping on about Muslims and culture is beyond me - in the 
case of the refugees it is moot. A bad guy is a bad guy - get over it.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
   
 


 















 


 













 
  



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 I fail to see any of the individuals that you have pictured as having 
accomplished anything on the scale that Al Qaeda or ISIS has.

 They are for the most part Freaking individual nuts. 

 ISIS is an organization that represents an ideology based on a political 
religion that tolerates no other ideologies. BIG DIFFERENCE!
 So, I guess you can live with how Islamic culture treats women and other 
minority groups because  diversity is a wonderful thing to be experienced!

 

 I enjoy a good discussion as much as the next guy but your lack of ability to 
reason and conclude rationally has defeated me. You are invested, heartily, in 
believing what you do to the point where you are becoming hysterical and 
jumping to all sorts of erroneous assumptions and conclusions. Live in your 
small shell of fear, mistrust and animosity - you have made that choice. But 
rest assured, you will never - and those close to you will never - become the 
victim of any terrorist attack on American soil between now and when you die. 
More likely, you will be hit and killed by some drunk driver, or break your 
neck falling off a step ladder.
 

 And BTW, I now know what fuels Trump's popularity. This has been an 
interesting and fruitful discussion with you in this regard. It is something 
that, up to this point, has largely eluded me but you have gone a long way to 
show me that otherwise seemingly rational and "normal" Americans are not so 
rational and normal after all - not when it comes to unwarranted fears and 
prejudices against those they have been convinced by others are going to 
threaten their livelihood and way of life. You are being used, Mikey, in an 
agenda that will accomplish exactly what you fear will happen but it will be 
accomplished by people like yourselves and all those who drive your 
irrationality. That is the irony of it all - you are the creator of your own 
worst nightmare and you are already living it in your mind before it even 
happens.

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So you want to add to the problems that already exist.
 

 False conclusion, Mike. I am making a point that aberrational human beings are 
just that, aberrational, irrespective of whatever country or culture they come 
from. And America has its share, for sure, irrespective of their color or race. 
Why you insist on harping on about Muslims and culture is beyond me - in the 
case of the refugees it is moot. A bad guy is a bad guy - get over it.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
   
 


 















 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I fail to see any of the individuals that you have pictured as having 
accomplished anything on the scale that Al Qaeda or ISIS has.
They are for the most part Freaking individual nuts. 
ISIS is an organization that represents an ideology based on a political 
religion that tolerates no other ideologies. BIG DIFFERENCE!So, I guess you can 
live with how Islamic culture treats women and other minority groups because  
diversity is a wonderful thing to be experienced!
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So you want to add to the problems that already exist.
False conclusion, Mike. I am making a point that aberrational human beings are 
just that, aberrational, irrespective of whatever country or culture they come 
from. And America has its share, for sure, irrespective of their color or race. 
Why you insist on harping on about Muslims and culture is beyond me - in the 
case of the refugees it is moot. A bad guy is a bad guy - get over it.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-27 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So you want to add to the problems that already exist.
 

 False conclusion, Mike. I am making a point that aberrational human beings are 
just that, aberrational, irrespective of whatever country or culture they come 
from. And America has its share, for sure, irrespective of their color or race. 
Why you insist on harping on about Muslims and culture is beyond me - in the 
case of the refugees it is moot. A bad guy is a bad guy - get over it.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   
 


 

 














Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
BTW, some of those would be more likely found at a Bernie Sanders rally.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    So you want to add to the problems that already exist.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
  
    
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So you want to add to the problems that already exist.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-03-27 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-02-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
KKK is barely a blip on the radar screen today. They have no political power 
and little or no financing. There will probably always be a *klan* but there 
influence is minuscule and does more to hurt them than anyone else. Compare 
them today to what they were in the early to mid twentieth century when their 
numbers were in the tens of millions and politicians couldn't get elected 
without their endorsement and they infiltrated every government job from dog 
catcher up to president. They can't even get on Jerry Springer these days.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:33 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    For someone who keeps claiming the KKK is 'no more' I think you better have 
a look. It appears some in America have no tolerance for sharing their space 
with those of a different ethnicity or race or color. And Trump is just 
coasting off this hate, feeding it, furthering his own 
narcissistic/megalomaniacal nature with and by doing 
so.http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/the-year-of-enormous-rage-klansmen-and-black-separatists-drive-increase-in-u-s-hate-groups-in-2015
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-02-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
For someone who keeps claiming the KKK is 'no more' I think you better have a 
look. It appears some in America have no tolerance for sharing their space with 
those of a different ethnicity or race or color. And Trump is just coasting off 
this hate, feeding it, furthering his own narcissistic/megalomaniacal nature 
with and by doing so.
 
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/the-year-of-enormous-rage-klansmen-and-black-separatists-drive-increase-in-u-s-hate-groups-in-2015
 
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/the-year-of-enormous-rage-klansmen-and-black-separatists-drive-increase-in-u-s-hate-groups-in-2015



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-01-11 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
At least he/she's working.
 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:12 AM
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-01-11 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-12-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, 50 million is a nice start if you take it for granted that there really 
are 50 million strong. But, there are over a billion Muslims in the world and 
if only a small fraction are Wahhabi, you still end up with a major world 
problem and Wahhabism is dominate in the home of the *prophet*, where Islam was 
born. I was listening to a Muslim lady on Meet the Depressed yesterday and she 
spoke of a need of a *Reformed Islam* movement, devoid of politics within the 
religion which currently doesn't exist. She was met with resistance from 
another Muslim lady. Some will accept a reform movement and others will not. 
Until there are over a billion reform minded Muslims, there will be problems. 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:36 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    
http://www.itakelibertywithmycoffee.com/2015/12/50-million-muslims-start-peace-campaign-and-openly-denounce-isis/
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-12-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.itakelibertywithmycoffee.com/2015/12/50-million-muslims-start-peace-campaign-and-openly-denounce-isis/
 
http://www.itakelibertywithmycoffee.com/2015/12/50-million-muslims-start-peace-campaign-and-openly-denounce-isis/



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-11-22 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ROFLMAO! Look what happened to the hosts receiving the refugees!

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:37 PM
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[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-11-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 



[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-10-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
See, those resourceful Germans are already well on their way to organizing 
against the pesky immigrants and other non-German upstarts.
 
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/thousands-rally-in-pegida-march-in-germany/
 
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/thousands-rally-in-pegida-march-in-germany/



[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-10-12 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-10-12 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dagnabit! They's aint gittin minz!

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:13 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   


    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh yes, they are more precise. Instead of dropping ten, a hundred, thousand or 
ten thousand bombs, as was done in Dresden Germany during WW2, hoping one is 
going to hit the target, one will do. Far less collateral damage and far fewer 
innocent civilians being hurt or killed. You must also ask yourself of the 
intent of a society that places military targets among civilians. The 
Palestinians in Gaza were/are notorious for doing so, placing military 
munitions under schools, and missile launchers in parks or near hospitals etc. 
Then they have the audacity to blame Israeli military for damage or accidental 
deaths of children or the elderly when they attack the source of the fire 
pouring down on Israeli families. It's a an evil political tactic, designed to 
shift blame from it's origin.< So I take it that you believe that evil should 
not be resisted. Don't attack ISIS, you might hurt a child that they are hiding 
behind, while they continue executing anyone that gets in their way or doesn't 
submit to their authority. Really? Please don't try to shame Christians for 
standing up to evil, it is their duty. Even Yogananda spoke about, as a child, 
that he stood up to a bully and beat the snot out of him for attacking his 
friend.
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 4:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    Doesn't apply - You are assuming that laser-guided munitions are more 
precise. They aren't. The laser part is precise. The bomb is still a bomb, 
exploding 360 degrees, causing lots of collateral damage, blowing innocent 
women and children to pieces, much more so that the direct violence we abhor. 
It is easy to kill when the gore is removed from our senses, and much more 
evil, imo - no ownership of the act. No thorn here, just the cold blooded 
destruction of families, communities and nations. 
Again, it is the "peace loving" Christians responsible  for this hell on earth. 
So they are hypocrites twice, once for their absence from the violence they 
encourage, and second because they talk about peace endlessly, while waging war 
- btw, that second phrase is an MMY quote. 
Very bad karma, and even Jesus cannot save them. 911 certainly wasn't a random 
event. If the radical Christians continue to create enemies abroad and having 
done so, try and kill them all, they will bring further domestic attacks to 
this country. Exactly the same mindset as the radical Muslims, their mirror 
image, only more aggressive.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What did Maharishi used to say? Sometimes it takes a thorn to remove a thorn, I 
think. A well guided laser *thorn* would be much better than poking around with 
a big rusty nail.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was well 
researched. 
I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we 
have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On 
the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, 
blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we 
attack. 
Hypocrisy, anyone? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Doesn't apply - You are assuming that laser-guided munitions are more precise. 
They aren't. The laser part is precise. The bomb is still a bomb, exploding 360 
degrees, causing lots of collateral damage, blowing innocent women and children 
to pieces, much more so that the direct violence we abhor. It is easy to kill 
when the gore is removed from our senses, and much more evil, imo - no 
ownership of the act. No thorn here, just the cold blooded destruction of 
families, communities and nations.  

 Again, it is the "peace loving" Christians responsible  for this hell on 
earth. So they are hypocrites twice, once for their absence from the violence 
they encourage, and second because they talk about peace endlessly, while 
waging war - btw, that second phrase is an MMY quote. 
 

 Very bad karma, and even Jesus cannot save them. 911 certainly wasn't a random 
event. If the radical Christians continue to create enemies abroad and having 
done so, try and kill them all, they will bring further domestic attacks to 
this country. Exactly the same mindset as the radical Muslims, their mirror 
image, only more aggressive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What did Maharishi used to say? Sometimes it takes a thorn to remove a thorn, 
I think. A well guided laser *thorn* would be much better than poking around 
with a big rusty nail.

 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was 
well researched. 
 

 I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we 
have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On 
the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, 
blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we 
attack.  

 Hypocrisy, anyone?  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be cha

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was well 
researched.  

 I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we 
have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On 
the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, 
blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we 
attack.  

 Hypocrisy, anyone?  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
 


   
 


 















 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He didn't coin the term. It's an old saying. The one time I remember him using 
it, was in reference to analysis of experiences in meditation, during the three 
days of checking. As far as Yogic Flyers accomplishing anything meaningful, 
we're still waiting.

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" <sri...@ymail.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    'takes a thorn to remove a thorn he was talking about his own TM Movement. 
Nowadays we can create big groups of Yogic Flyers, there is no need to bomb 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread srijau
'takes a thorn to remove a thorn he was talking about his own TM Movement. 
Nowadays we can create big groups of Yogic Flyers, there is no need to bomb 
anyone or anything like that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread srijau
and I see nothing to superior about your crass self or your American way of 
life to the Plains or any other native people, you are just a sick fuck of a 
racist propagandist.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well Srijau, I guess nature intended to bring a native populations, isolated 
from progress, living in a hunting gathering society for some  ten to twenty 
thousand years, into the present. They say Karma's a bitch and so is catching 
up. Maharishi use to talk about a *phase transition* into  a sat yuga as 
potentially rough for the world. I would say that Native Americans have had 
their own *phase transition*from 10,000 BC or earlier, to modern times in about 
a 150-200 years span of time. I'm sure some came screaming and kicking while 
others rode the wave. Being crass... maybe that's my style. I think of it as 
shooting straight, without beating around the bushes. And I didn't have to 
get into any name calling!

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" <sri...@ymail.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, I can't speak for your family but most of mine, that I'm aware of, came 
here before there were any laws governing immigration. I'm talking 1640 to 
1680's. I don't think the United States had any immigration laws until the 
twentieth century. I'm also pretty certain, though not positive, the Native 
population didn't either. As far as trespassing goes, there was no deed to 
land, no ownership. Indians fought among themselves for territory. Might made 
right. We were just another group throwing our weight around a lot of 
weight. I'm not saying us pale faces were exactly fair but there was a trade 
off. Native populations were brought into the industrial age out of the stone 
age.
 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 


 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And there is the law of the jungle! The force of evolution. The end of hunting, 
gathering civilizations were and still are coming to an end. How many are there 
now? Just isolated pockets that anthropologists preserve to study. Does it seem 
logical that an entire hemisphere would remain untouched to preserve an ancient 
civilization living under stone age conditions?Science , sociology, 
anthropology, medicine  etc, the world economy, were not developed enough to 
ensure their preservation as it was. Nature was bringing them along. It was 
time. Look what happened to Neanderthals. Nature often demands that we adapt or 
die out. I understand the romance of it all but nature doesn't work like that.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ann, I can't speak for your family but most of mine, that I'm aware of, came 
here before there were any laws governing immigration. I'm talking 1640 to 
1680's. I don't think the United States had any immigration laws until the 
twentieth century. I'm also pretty certain, though not positive, the Native 
population didn't either. As far as trespassing goes, there was no deed to 
land, no ownership. Indians fought among themselves for territory. Might made 
right. We were just another group throwing our weight around a lot of 
weight. I'm not saying us pale faces were exactly fair but there was a trade 
off. Native populations were brought into the industrial age out of the stone 
age.

You are talking law and policies and yet you ignore the stark reality. 
Basically, foreignors came ashore and usurped the native population. Some of 
these aboriginals died of disease, some died as a result of genocide and the 
rest by the results engendered by the slow creep of the belief that the 
newcomers had the right to take what they wanted and needed and did so 
inexorably over time finally destroying most of the culture and language of 
these native populations. There are laws that are not written, are not 
legislated by any government that are still laws and powerful ones, at that. 
There are laws that you won't find in any book or any creed but they, 
nevertheless, exist. You make as if the industrial age is superior to what was 
going on with the native peoples in their ability to live and thrive off of the 
land. I would seriously question the assertion that quality of life is superior 
to the what was happening 300 years ago on this continent. You may have a 
dishwasher, internet and a fast car but what have you lost? Think about it.  
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday,

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
 


   
 


 















 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ann, I can't speak for your family but most of mine, that I'm aware of, came 
here before there were any laws governing immigration. I'm talking 1640 to 
1680's. I don't think the United States had any immigration laws until the 
twentieth century. I'm also pretty certain, though not positive, the Native 
population didn't either. As far as trespassing goes, there was no deed to 
land, no ownership. Indians fought among themselves for territory. Might made 
right. We were just another group throwing our weight around a lot of 
weight. I'm not saying us pale faces were exactly fair but there was a trade 
off. Native populations were brought into the industrial age out of the stone 
age.

 

 You are talking law and policies and yet you ignore the stark reality. 
Basically, foreignors came ashore and usurped the native population. Some of 
these aboriginals died of disease, some died as a result of genocide and the 
rest by the results engendered by the slow creep of the belief that the 
newcomers had the right to take what they wanted and needed and did so 
inexorably over time finally destroying most of the culture and language of 
these native populations. There are laws that are not written, are not 
legislated by any government that are still laws and powerful ones, at that. 
There are laws that you won't find in any book or any creed but they, 
nevertheless, exist. You make as if the industrial age is superior to what was 
going on with the native peoples in their ability to live and thrive off of the 
land. I would seriously question the assertion that quality of life is superior 
to the what was happening 300 years ago on this continent. You may have a 
dishwasher, internet and a fast car but what have you lost? Think about it.
 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as 

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because 
none of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations 
in what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny 
compared to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad 
manners, and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't 
practice any self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples 
aren't all the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not 
the "Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 


 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What did Maharishi used to say? Sometimes it takes a thorn to remove a thorn, I 
think. A well guided laser *thorn* would be much better than poking around with 
a big rusty nail.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was 
well researched. 
I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we 
have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On 
the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, 
blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we 
attack. 
Hypocrisy, anyone? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 


 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   


    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
 

 OK, I lied. I can't ignore this completely:
 http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/705 
http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/705


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
 


   
 


 

 













Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My Ann Coulterism of the day.

  From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
 

 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   


    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Anne, did you ever see the movie Little Big Man?Fantastic movie with Dustin 
Hoffman, Chief Dan George and Faye Dunaway.  I was studying anthropology when 
it came out. The professor spoke about the many characters in the movie, like 
the *contrary*, warriors that took a vow to do everything the opposite of 
normal. They bathed in dirt and dried off in water, road their horses backwards 
etc. drove them nuts. Then there was the hemani, gay Indian, recognized as not 
having the temperament to be a warrior but never the less had a respectable 
place in society. Always liked to try to seduce Little Big Man, "wanna come 
into my tepee and lay down of soft furs Little Big Man?" LOL! 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
OK, I lied. I can't ignore this 
completely:http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/705

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 


 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne, did you ever see the movie Little Big Man?Fantastic movie with Dustin 
Hoffman, Chief Dan George and Faye Dunaway.  I was studying anthropology when 
it came out. The professor spoke about the many characters in the movie, like 
the *contrary*, warriors that took a vow to do everything the opposite of 
normal. They bathed in dirt and dried off in water, road their horses backwards 
etc. drove them nuts. Then there was the hemani, gay Indian, recognized as not 
having the temperament to be a warrior but never the less had a respectable 
place in society. Always liked to try to seduce Little Big Man, "wanna come 
into my tepee and lay down of soft furs Little Big Man?" LOL! 

 

 Has the same effect as bathing the "right" way; you end up clean either way. 
LOL
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
 

 OK, I lied. I can't ignore this completely:
 http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/705 
http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/705


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
 


   
 


 














 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none of 
that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in what 
is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared to 
they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, and 
even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps.  

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
 


   
 


 

 














[FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-25 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




[FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-09-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A Trip Down Donald Trump's Bankruptcy Memory Lane 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/

 
 
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/
 
 
 A Trip Down Donald Trump's Bankruptcy Memory Lane 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/
 By Jon Berke Not a moment goes by in the current political news cycle that 
doesn’t include a headline or punchline about presidential hopeful Donald 
Trum...
 
 
 
 View on www.forbes.com 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 Donald Trump’s empty loyalty vow: Man with three marriages, four bankruptcies 
reportedly pledging fidelity to GOP 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/

 
 
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/
 
 
 Donald Trump’s empty loyalty vow: Man with three marriag... 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/
 If Republican leaders trust Donald Trump to stick to his word, they’re even 
dumber than they seem
 
 
 
 View on www.salon.com 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2015/08/17/trump-the-hypocrite-investing-overseas-fine-for-him/
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2015/08/17/trump-the-hypocrite-investing-overseas-fine-for-him/



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-09-04 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I could care less about his divorces and bankruptcies. They were all legal and 
designed by politicians, Democrat and Republican, for that purpose. However, we 
have Democrats that think they are above the law and think destroying potential 
evidence, in the name of privacy, is their right. At last Trump used the law to 
serve his purpose. Far better than ignoring and violating it.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 9:56 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    A Trip Down Donald Trump's Bankruptcy Memory Lane
 
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||||   A Trip Down Donald Trump's Bankruptcy Memory Lane  
By Jon Berke Not a moment goes by in the current political news cycle that 
doesn’t include a headline or punchline about presidential hopeful Donald 
Trum...||
|  View on www.forbes.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
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Donald Trump’s empty loyalty vow: Man with three marriages, four bankruptcies 
reportedly pledging fidelity to GOP
 
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||||   Donald Trump’s empty loyalty vow: Man with three 
marriag...  If Republican leaders trust Donald Trump to stick to his word, 
they’re even dumber than they seem||
|  View on www.salon.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2015/08/17/trump-the-hypocrite-investing-overseas-fine-for-him/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2015-09-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I could care less about his divorces and bankruptcies. They were all legal and 
designed by politicians, Democrat and Republican, for that purpose. However, we 
have Democrats that think they are above the law and think destroying potential 
evidence, in the name of privacy, is their right. At last Trump used the law to 
serve his purpose. Far better than ignoring and violating it.

 

 We all see the world as we choose to see it. Reality takes a fourth row seat 
to what is comfortable and known. We can extrapolate any conclusion from just 
about any event because it is bathed in subjectivity and our need to keep 
believing. I hope, for your sake, that Trump gets the nomination but I hope for 
the sake of the Nation and the rest of us slobs that he comes to his senses and 
goes back to managing his casinos and cleaning up the bankruptcies he leaves in 
his wake. His bid for the Presidency is a mockery of your (and my) country.
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 9:56 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   
 A Trip Down Donald Trump's Bankruptcy Memory Lane 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/

 
 
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/
 
 A Trip Down Donald Trump's Bankruptcy Memory Lane 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/
 By Jon Berke Not a moment goes by in the current political news cycle that 
doesn’t include a headline or punchline about presidential hopeful Donald 
Trum...


 
 View on www.forbes.com 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Donald Trump’s empty loyalty vow: Man with three marriages, four bankruptcies 
reportedly pledging fidelity to GOP 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/

 
 
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/
 
 Donald Trump’s empty loyalty vow: Man with three marriag... 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/
 If Republican leaders trust Donald Trump to stick to his word, they’re even 
dumber than they seem


 
 View on www.salon.com 
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/03/donald_trumps_empty_loyalty_vow_man_with_three_marriages_four_bankruptcies_reportedly_pledging_allegiance_to_gop/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2015/08/17/trump-the-hypocrite-investing-overseas-fine-for-him/
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2015/08/17/trump-the-hypocrite-investing-overseas-fine-for-him/


 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny. 

 There I go again with my political incorrectness!
 

 Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
 

 Oh, just saw the rest.
 

 That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 









Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
crossin' over into recovery, ain't ya?  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Easy does it.
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny.
 

 There I go again with my political incorrectness!
 

 Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
 

 Oh, just saw the rest.
 

 That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 









 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 






Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL [1 Attachment]

2015-08-29 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, I don't know, there's always *Visualize Whirled Peas*.

  From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :


Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to them 
than gun haters. Here are a choice few:














And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL [1 Attachment]

2015-08-29 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Easy does it.

  From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   
    You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny.
There I go again with my political incorrectness!
Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
Oh, just saw the rest.
That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :


Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to them 
than gun haters. Here are a choice few:














 

And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Easy does it. 

 One day at a time.
 

 Anybody who doesn't know those?   (-:
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 You know something about that?
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   crossin' over into recovery, ain't ya?  (-:

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Easy does it.
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny.
 

 There I go again with my political incorrectness!
 

 Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
 

 Oh, just saw the rest.
 

 That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 









 


 












 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You know something about that?

  From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   
    crossin' over into recovery, ain't ya?  (-:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Easy does it.

  From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny.
There I go again with my political incorrectness!
Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
Oh, just saw the rest.
That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :


Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to them 
than gun haters. Here are a choice few:















 


And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL [1 Attachment]

2015-08-29 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So your fear is of guns and not the people carrying them?

  From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   
    I mean, the amount of guns on the street is just crazy, but they are here 
to stay, and there is not too much in the way of civil discipline to keep it 
from exploding anymore than it has with the right trigger.
I guess it will all lead to the further surveillance of our world, and likely 
more sophisticated interventions, human or otherwise.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :



I like them because they give me an insight into human beings I have nothing in 
common with other than that we all presumably breath air. Here are some more 
classics:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :


Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to them 
than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
















 



And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny. 

 There I go again with my political incorrectness!
 

 Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
 

 Oh, just saw the rest.
 

 That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.
 

 I like them because they give me an insight into human beings I have nothing 
in common with other than that we all presumably breath air. Here are some more 
classics:
 

 
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 











Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Easy does it. 

 One day at a time.
 

 Anybody who doesn't know those?   (-:
 

 Is this about the time in the conversation where you hope Mike doesn't own a 
gun?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 You know something about that?
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   crossin' over into recovery, ain't ya?  (-:

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Easy does it.
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny.
 

 There I go again with my political incorrectness!
 

 Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
 

 Oh, just saw the rest.
 

 That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 









 


 












 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Oh, I don't know, there's always *Visualize Whirled Peas*.
 

 I love that whirled peas thing. I think I first saw it at FFL.  Blackeyed in 
a blender?
 

 From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 


 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 





 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yea, but he might set that pigeon on my ass!  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Easy does it. 

 One day at a time.
 

 Anybody who doesn't know those?   (-:
 

 Is this about the time in the conversation where you hope Mike doesn't own a 
gun?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 You know something about that?
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   crossin' over into recovery, ain't ya?  (-:

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Easy does it.
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   You gotta admit, that first one is pretty funny.
 

 There I go again with my political incorrectness!
 

 Or how about this classic, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
 

 Oh, just saw the rest.
 

 That Planned Parenthood one is pretty funny too, I think.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 









 


 












 


 
















Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I mean, the amount of guns on the street is just crazy, but they are here to 
stay, and there is not too much in the way of civil discipline to keep it from 
exploding anymore than it has with the right trigger. 

 I guess it will all lead to the further surveillance of our world, and likely 
more sophisticated interventions, human or otherwise.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

 I like them because they give me an insight into human beings I have nothing 
in common with other than that we all presumably breath air. Here are some more 
classics:
 

 
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 














Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Of course not. 

 I am just commenting that when the social contract becomes frayed, or breaks 
down, and people wish to settle scores or express displeasure, they have a very 
violent way to do so.
 

 You can argue it both ways, that because of that, it makes society behave in a 
more civil manner.
 

 As with most dealings between people, trust is the social lubricant.
 

 On the other hand, the government will have the ability, or already has the 
ability to make ownership of guns a moot point, by some technology or other.  
(-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 So your fear is of guns and not the people carrying them?
 

 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   I mean, the amount of guns on the street is just crazy, but they are here to 
stay, and there is not too much in the way of civil discipline to keep it from 
exploding anymore than it has with the right trigger.
 

 I guess it will all lead to the further surveillance of our world, and likely 
more sophisticated interventions, human or otherwise.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

 I like them because they give me an insight into human beings I have nothing 
in common with other than that we all presumably breath air. Here are some more 
classics:
 

 
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :

 

 Spoken like a true bumpersticker.
 

 It appears gun lovers have a larger market of bumper stickers available to 
them than gun haters. Here are a choice few:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 
 

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 













 


 












[FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
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|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Possession of Firearms by People With Mental Illness |
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| View on www.ncsl.org | Preview by Yahoo |
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|   |

 You were saying?  From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 9:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   


    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 
www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
  
  
 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
  
  
  
  
  
 Possession of Firearms by People With Mental Illness 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx

 
 View on www.ncsl.org 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 
 
 You were saying?
 

 And of course we know that only law-abiding peaceful-minded citizens possess 
guns. LOL
 From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 9:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
 


   
 


 

 













Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.
 

 Yup, them's the breaks. But realistically, even the good guys would find 
guns too so that makes them the outlaws as well or at least the scofflaws. 
Round and round we go.
 

 

 

 

 
 

 From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 
www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
  
  
 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
  
  
  
  
  
 Possession of Firearms by People With Mental Illness 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx

 
 View on www.ncsl.org 
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 
 
 You were saying?
 

 And of course we know that only law-abiding peaceful-minded citizens possess 
guns. LOL
 From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 9:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 
 
 


   
 


 














 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yet they keep passing them.

  From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Possession of Firearms by People With Mental Illness |
|  |
| View on www.ncsl.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

You were saying?
And of course we know that only law-abiding peaceful-minded citizens possess 
guns. LOL  From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 9:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 


 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL

2015-08-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And if we passed laws outlawing guns, only outlaws would have them.

  From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Possession of Firearms by People With Mental Illness |
|  |
| View on www.ncsl.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

You were saying?
And of course we know that only law-abiding peaceful-minded citizens possess 
guns. LOL  From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 9:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike - LOL
 


 


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