[FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mr. Doug

Are you not substituting Ammachi's pronouncements for the clear statements of 
MMY?

Why the duplicity?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We're talking competition. People that move their businesses over seas, do so 
to produce a product that they can sell at a competitive price. They don't have 
near the tax burden, unions to deal with, Obamacare, OSHA, EPA and other 
regulations. It's just cheaper to open a manufacturing business over seas in 
many instances.Some businesses can make a profit here.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Oh no, I get it. You think Trump is supposed to be a charity and pay more than 
market forces, which no business can do and be profitable, thus going out of 
business and losing all of it's workers and investments.. Trump is wanting to 
change the laws, trade deals, to encourage businesses to stay here, so the jobs 
remain as well as the investments. Meanwhile, he has to play by the rules that 
congress created.
 You are just proving my point again and again - you don't get it.
BTW, you don't believe/think that any corporation or company who produces their 
goods here in America are, currently, able to be profitable?
And what, exactly, are these "rules that congress created" that doesn't allow 
Trump to hire American workers? What laws would he break to do so? You make it 
sound as if he will be guilty of some crime if he gets his merchandise made 
Stateside.

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

WTDF?How about this? Ann declares Trump is a hypocrite  because he takes 
advantage of laws that congress has created for business. He is a businessman 
intent on making money legally, as defined by congress but in order to make 
money, he has to compete with others doing the same, on the same level playing 
field based in market forces. His businesses are to make money, not to be a 
charity.Let me ask then. Are Democrats hypocrites for demanding that the rich 
pay higher taxes because the government needs more income, while failing to 
*voluntarily* pay more themselves? Why shouldn't they go on and pay in tax, 
what they think everyone else *should* be paying?You know, set the example. 
Lead by example. Are they hypocrites to use the loopholes and deductions that 
they created so that they don't have to pay what their *fair share*?

I knew you wouldn't get it, Mike. I rest my case.
  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 WTF??
>From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions?
And who grants you permission to express yours?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes use 
of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, make 
lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, given 
the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself and 
compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could 
change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, making 
it more competitive to be made in America.
A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical questio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's not a moot point.  Many businesses outsourced for many reasons. In many 
cases the US wasn't producing the people with skills that were needed.  It 
wasn't all about cheaper workers.
 
 I'm not a Trump fan but he and Sanders are on the same page about some things. 
 Clinton will just say whatever will get her elected and do whatever she wants 
if she gets the office whether the public likes it or not. 
 
 Your dad may have outsourced for very practical reasons.  Same with Trump.  
What Trump and Sanders want is to stop outsourcing just to save companies 
money.  You can do that by taxing them for outsourcing.
 

 Absolutely. But it is not moot in the sense that Trump is running on a 
platform of "hire America" and keep production stateside while simultaneously 
he has been outsourcing since 2006. I am just wondering what gives? And talk 
about saying what the voters want to hear...
 

 correction: it IS moot (about my father or anyone else for that matter who 
isn't running on a platform of keep jobs in America).
 
 On 07/01/2016 06:29 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message I am 
replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft Corp back in the 
70's and part of the 80's (when my father was actually CEO) outsourced its 
products is moot. He was not running for President of the US and espousing that 
he would make America Great Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in 
America. In other words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not 
saying that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, all 
along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike seems unable 
to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Substantial overview interview of Obama on NPR this morning. 

 NPR's Interview With President Obama About 'Obama's Years' 
http://www.npr.org/2016/07/01/483273808/nprs-interview-with-president-obama-about-obamas-years
 
 
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/07/01/483273808/nprs-interview-with-president-obama-about-obamas-years
 
 
 NPR's Interview With President Obama About '... 
http://www.npr.org/2016/07/01/483273808/nprs-interview-with-president-obama-about-obamas-years
 Steve Inskeep interviews President Obama on NPR's radio special, the "Obama 
Years," about how Americans have fared since 2008. He also discuss...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's not a moot point.  Many businesses outsourced for many reasons. In many 
cases the US wasn't producing the people with skills that were needed.  It 
wasn't all about cheaper workers.
 
 I'm not a Trump fan but he and Sanders are on the same page about some things. 
 Clinton will just say whatever will get her elected and do whatever she wants 
if she gets the office whether the public likes it or not. 
 
 Your dad may have outsourced for very practical reasons.  Same with Trump.  
What Trump and Sanders want is to stop outsourcing just to save companies 
money.  You can do that by taxing them for outsourcing.
 

 Absolutely. But it is not moot in the sense that Trump is running on a 
platform of "hire America" and keep production stateside while simultaneously 
he has been outsourcing since 2006. I am just wondering what gives? And talk 
about saying what the voters want to hear...
 
 On 07/01/2016 06:29 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message I am 
replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft Corp back in the 
70's and part of the 80's (when my father was actually CEO) outsourced its 
products is moot. He was not running for President of the US and espousing that 
he would make America Great Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in 
America. In other words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not 
saying that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, all 
along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike seems unable 
to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The tech sector pushes this stuff to stay in business.  It's crazy as it 
creates throw away technology.  And people are too obsessed about their 
gadgets.  I develop for them but I hardly ever use my smartphone for 
calls, it's mainly for testing apps on a piece of hardware.  Society is 
very vata these days.


On 06/30/2016 08:34 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



That in cultural remedy to the disintegrating agitated values of this 
techno-gadget materialism people do need to be out in nature, plant 
gardens and trees, be with animals, walk out in nature, do their 
spiritual practices that stabilize their systems, and get away from 
their gadgets.  And, to help integrate themselves find points to help 
others. That this mental agitation of the subtle system is now a 
world-wide problem that must be tackled directly for everyone’s and 
the world's well-being.







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

Yep.  And product/gadget technologies that are destabilizing to the 
human system, without cultivated or deeper spiritual discernments of 
what the gadgets do to us..



A lot of this cultural consumerism, materialism, seems to suffer from 
the dis-integrated perspective of a lacking evident in perspective of 
spiritual experience. Yep, suffering in poor modeling, ignorance in 
poor spiritual education and guidance, and a consequent cultural lack 
of spiritual discipline.



It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many people as possible into 
debt for wage slavery. Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much 
consumin' goin' on.



I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. 
Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they 
can afford it or not!



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote :


Remember the housing bubble? Get everyone into a house... whether
they can afford it or not. Not sure you can completely blame the
banks though. They were under pressure to lend to people that
couldn't afford a house. If they didn't , they were racist!
Hopefully there would be enough good loans to make up for the bad
ones.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

What that means is the current standard of living is artificial
and inflated because it is using too much credit putting people
into debt.  Learned my lesson on this going into debt to do the
TM-Sidhis course.  Quit the music gig I had to do another gig that
fell through and that put me into financial straits for a couple
years.  I learned to use credit wisely paying off the balance most
the time unless I really do need to amortize something within my
means.

Living in the SF Bay Area I could understand rising housing
prices.  In 2000 my apartment rent for a 1 bedroom den cost about
as much as a house payment so bought a house instead.  Housing
prices continued to go on the rise because many communities in the
Bay Area blocked new housing.  But there was actually no reason
for housing prices to rise across much of the US including in the
small ho-dunk town I grew up in.  It seemed to be a conspiracy to
put as many people as possible into debt for wage slavery.

On 06/30/2016 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer
nation. Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology
now, whether they can afford it or not! So, they borrow and
borrow to get what they want, end up in enormous debt. Nobody
has any savings. Yeah, it revs up an economy but with nothing
to run on once it's rev'd. Banks used to use peoples savings
to lend and make their profits. Now there aren't any savings
to use. They go to the Fed who just prints it up, making it
worthless in the long run.
Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
<mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
    *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

The US economy has progressively become more and more
lopsided in favor of the rich ever since the Reagan
adminis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

It's not a moot point.  Many businesses outsourced for many reasons. In 
many cases the US wasn't producing the people with skills that were 
needed.  It wasn't all about cheaper workers.


I'm not a Trump fan but he and Sanders are on the same page about some 
things.  Clinton will just say whatever will get her elected and do 
whatever she wants if she gets the office whether the public likes it or 
not.


Your dad may have outsourced for very practical reasons.  Same with 
Trump.  What Trump and Sanders want is to stop outsourcing just to save 
companies money.  You can do that by taxing them for outsourcing.


On 07/01/2016 06:29 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message 
I am replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft 
Corp back in the 70's and part of the 80's (when my father was 
actually CEO) outsourced its products is moot. He was not running for 
President of the US and espousing that he would make America Great 
Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in America. In other 
words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not saying 
that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, 
all along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike 
seems unable to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Oh no, I get it. You think Trump is supposed to be a charity and pay more than 
market forces, which no business can do and be profitable, thus going out of 
business and losing all of it's workers and investments.. Trump is wanting to 
change the laws, trade deals, to encourage businesses to stay here, so the jobs 
remain as well as the investments. Meanwhile, he has to play by the rules that 
congress created.
 
  
 You are just proving my point again and again - you don't get it.
 

 BTW, you don't believe/think that any corporation or company who produces 
their goods here in America are, currently, able to be profitable?
 

 And what, exactly, are these "rules that congress created" that doesn't allow 
Trump to hire American workers? What laws would he break to do so? You make it 
sound as if he will be guilty of some crime if he gets his merchandise made 
Stateside.


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 WTDF? How about this? Ann declares Trump is a hypocrite  because he takes 
advantage of laws that congress has created for business. He is a businessman 
intent on making money legally, as defined by congress but in order to make 
money, he has to compete with others doing the same, on the same level playing 
field based in market forces. His businesses are to make money, not to be a 
charity.
 Let me ask then. Are Democrats hypocrites for demanding that the rich pay 
higher taxes because the government needs more income, while failing to 
*voluntarily* pay more themselves? Why shouldn't they go on and pay in tax, 
what they think everyone else *should* be paying?You know, set the example. 
Lead by example. Are they hypocrites to use the loopholes and deductions that 
they created so that they don't have to pay what their *fair share*?

 

 I knew you wouldn't get it, Mike. I rest my case.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   WTF??
 

 From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions?
 

 And who grants you permission to express yours?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes 
use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, 
make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, 
given the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself 
and compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he 
could change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, 
making it more competitive to be made in America.
 

 A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, includ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Oh no, I get it. You think Trump is supposed to be a charity and pay more than 
market forces, which no business can do and be profitable, thus going out of 
business and losing all of it's workers and investments.. Trump is wanting to 
change the laws, trade deals, to encourage businesses to stay here, so the jobs 
remain as well as the investments. Meanwhile, he has to play by the rules that 
congress created.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

WTDF?How about this? Ann declares Trump is a hypocrite  because he takes 
advantage of laws that congress has created for business. He is a businessman 
intent on making money legally, as defined by congress but in order to make 
money, he has to compete with others doing the same, on the same level playing 
field based in market forces. His businesses are to make money, not to be a 
charity.Let me ask then. Are Democrats hypocrites for demanding that the rich 
pay higher taxes because the government needs more income, while failing to 
*voluntarily* pay more themselves? Why shouldn't they go on and pay in tax, 
what they think everyone else *should* be paying?You know, set the example. 
Lead by example. Are they hypocrites to use the loopholes and deductions that 
they created so that they don't have to pay what their *fair share*?

I knew you wouldn't get it, Mike. I rest my case.
  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 WTF??
>From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions?
And who grants you permission to express yours?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes use 
of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, make 
lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, given 
the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself and 
compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could 
change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, making 
it more competitive to be made in America.
A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE DECIDED 
THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ENCOURAGE? 
OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS SIMPLY LYING 
TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU THINK HE HAD 
HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME TO BELIEVE 
CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF PRODUCING 
OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME PRESIDE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 WTDF? How about this? Ann declares Trump is a hypocrite  because he takes 
advantage of laws that congress has created for business. He is a businessman 
intent on making money legally, as defined by congress but in order to make 
money, he has to compete with others doing the same, on the same level playing 
field based in market forces. His businesses are to make money, not to be a 
charity.
 Let me ask then. Are Democrats hypocrites for demanding that the rich pay 
higher taxes because the government needs more income, while failing to 
*voluntarily* pay more themselves? Why shouldn't they go on and pay in tax, 
what they think everyone else *should* be paying?You know, set the example. 
Lead by example. Are they hypocrites to use the loopholes and deductions that 
they created so that they don't have to pay what their *fair share*?

 

 I knew you wouldn't get it, Mike. I rest my case.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   WTF??
 

 From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions?
 

 And who grants you permission to express yours?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes 
use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, 
make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, 
given the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself 
and compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he 
could change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, 
making it more competitive to be made in America.
 

 A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
 

 MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE 
DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO 
ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS 
SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU 
THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME 
TO BELIEVE CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF 
PRODUCING OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME 
PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU 
HAVE $1000 TO WAGER?
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

WTDF?How about this? Ann declares Trump is a hypocrite  because he takes 
advantage of laws that congress has created for business. He is a businessman 
intent on making money legally, as defined by congress but in order to make 
money, he has to compete with others doing the same, on the same level playing 
field based in market forces. His businesses are to make money, not to be a 
charity.Let me ask then. Are Democrats hypocrites for demanding that the rich 
pay higher taxes because the government needs more income, while failing to 
*voluntarily* pay more themselves? Why shouldn't they go on and pay in tax, 
what they think everyone else *should* be paying?You know, set the example. 
Lead by example. Are they hypocrites to use the loopholes and deductions that 
they created so that they don't have to pay what their *fair share*?

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    WTF??
>From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions?
And who grants you permission to express yours?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes use 
of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, make 
lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, given 
the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself and 
compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could 
change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, making 
it more competitive to be made in America.
A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE DECIDED 
THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ENCOURAGE? 
OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS SIMPLY LYING 
TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU THINK HE HAD 
HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME TO BELIEVE 
CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF PRODUCING 
OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME PRESIDENT HE 
WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU HAVE $1000 TO 
WAGER?


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Lost on me?? I beg your pardon? 

 I was defending your right to express your opinions. Mike seems to think you 
need some sort of higher authorization to do so.
 

 Take another look, please.
 

 It was Barry 2's post 428483.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message I am 
replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft Corp back in the 
70's and part of the 80's (when my father was actually CEO) outsourced its 
products is moot. He was not running for President of the US and espousing that 
he would make America Great Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in 
America. In other words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not 
saying that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, all 
along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike seems unable 
to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Lost on me?? I beg your pardon? 

 I was defending your right to express your opinions. Mike seems to think you 
need some sort of higher authorization to do so.
 

 Take another look, please.
 

 I was replying to Bhairitu's post, not yours, Judy. Sorry, but Yahoo wouldn't 
let me show the post I was replying to so I had to miss including it in my 
reply.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message I am 
replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft Corp back in the 
70's and part of the 80's (when my father was actually CEO) outsourced its 
products is moot. He was not running for President of the US and espousing that 
he would make America Great Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in 
America. In other words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not 
saying that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, all 
along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike seems unable 
to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.
 

 Haha, you are funny today. It has nothing to do with authority, Mike. It has 
to do with not being hoodwinked or missing the salient point here on what Trump 
is doing. Let's see if I can make it any clearer. Donald is the person who 
condemns everyone for having undermined American jobs and their ability to make 
a decent wage because US companies have outsourced. Got it so far? Now, this 
same Donald is, as we speak, having millions of dollars worth of his products 
made NOT IN THE USA. Still with me? So, how do you reconcile Donald, the 
Presidential candidate, excoriating the Corporations and the Government about 
this, meanwhile Donald doing exactly what he condemns others for doing? It is 
like someone talking about how immoral murder is while simultaneously 
bludgeoning his neighbor to death as he speaks.
 

 I have a feeling you're still not going to "get it". 
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes 
use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, 
make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, 
given the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself 
and compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he 
could change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, 
making it more competitive to be made in America.
 

 A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
 

 MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE 
DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO 
ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS 
SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU 
THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME 
TO BELIEVE CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF 
PRODUCING OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME 
PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU 
HAVE $1000 TO WAGER?
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Lost on me?? I beg your pardon? 

 I was defending your right to express your opinions. Mike seems to think you 
need some sort of higher authorization to do so.
 

 Take another look, please.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message I am 
replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft Corp back in the 
70's and part of the 80's (when my father was actually CEO) outsourced its 
products is moot. He was not running for President of the US and espousing that 
he would make America Great Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in 
America. In other words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not 
saying that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, all 
along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike seems unable 
to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yahoo is being funky this morning so it won't let me show the message I am 
replying to but in answer to your question about whether Kraft Corp back in the 
70's and part of the 80's (when my father was actually CEO) outsourced its 
products is moot. He was not running for President of the US and espousing that 
he would make America Great Again by ensuring that all goods should be made in 
America. In other words, he wasn't a hypocrite on this subject. BTW, I am not 
saying that outsourcing product production or labor is a bad thing. I have, all 
along, just pointed out that Trump is one big fat hypocrite. Mike seems unable 
to grasp this point and now this seems lost on you as well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

WTF?? 

 From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions?
 

 And who grants you permission to express yours?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes 
use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, 
make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, 
given the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself 
and compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he 
could change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, 
making it more competitive to be made in America.
 

 A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
 

 MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE 
DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO 
ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS 
SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU 
THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME 
TO BELIEVE CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF 
PRODUCING OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME 
PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU 
HAVE $1000 TO WAGER?
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president.


 
 View

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 That in cultural remedy to the disintegrating agitated values of this 
techno-gadget materialism people do need to be out in nature, plant gardens and 
trees, be with animals, walk out in nature, do their spiritual practices that 
stabilize their systems, and get away from their gadgets.  And, to help 
integrate themselves find points to help others. That this mental agitation of 
the subtle system is now a world-wide problem that must be tackled directly for 
everyone’s and the world's well-being.   
 

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 
 Yep.  And product/gadget technologies that are destabilizing to the human 
system, without cultivated or deeper spiritual discernments of what the gadgets 
do to us.. 
 

 
 A lot of this cultural consumerism, materialism, seems to suffer from the 
dis-integrated perspective of a lacking evident in perspective of spiritual 
experience. Yep, suffering in poor modeling, ignorance in poor spiritual 
education and guidance, and a consequent cultural lack of spiritual discipline. 
 

 It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many people as possible into debt for 
wage slavery.  Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.
 

 
 I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. Everybody 
has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they can afford it or 
not! 
 


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote :
 
 Remember the housing bubble? Get everyone into a house... whether they can 
afford it or not. Not sure you can completely blame the banks though. They were 
under pressure to lend to people that couldn't afford a house. If they didn't , 
they were racist! Hopefully there would be enough good loans to make up for the 
bad ones.
 
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   
 What that means is the current standard of living is artificial and inflated 
because it is using too much credit putting people into debt.  Learned my 
lesson on this going into debt to do the TM-Sidhis course.  Quit the music gig 
I had to do another gig that fell through and that put me into financial 
straits for a couple years.  I learned to use credit wisely paying off the 
balance most the time unless I really do need to amortize something within my 
means.
 
 Living in the SF Bay Area I could understand rising housing prices.  In 2000 
my apartment rent for a 1 bedroom den cost about as much as a house payment so 
bought a house instead.  Housing prices continued to go on the rise because 
many communities in the Bay Area blocked new housing.  But there was actually 
no reason for housing prices to rise across much of the US including in the 
small ho-dunk town I grew up in.  It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many 
people as possible into debt for wage slavery.
  
 On 06/30/2016 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. 
Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they can afford 
it or not! So, they borrow and borrow to get what they want, end up in enormous 
debt. Nobody has any savings. Yeah, it revs up an economy but with nothing to 
run on once it's rev'd. Banks used to use peoples savings to lend and make 
their profits. Now there aren't any savings to use. They go to the Fed who just 
prints it up, making it worthless in the long run.
 Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.
 
 

 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   
 The US economy has progressively become more and more lopsided in favor of the 
rich ever since the Reagan administration.  Improvements have not raised 
everyone's boat.  Some solutions are poor like raising the minimum wage won't 
help a lot since businesses will just increase their prices (usually way too 
much) to compensate.  
 
 Minimum wage jobs were intended for students and part time casual and 
unskilled workers.  Even then back in the day one could still rent a house (or 
even buy), afford a car, dine out, go to movies on a minimum wage income.  No 
more.  Greed took over.
 
 As far as I can see the only solution is a total economic collapse taking out 
the rich as well.  Basically a reboot of the economy.
 
 On 06/29/2016 10:11 PM, 
mailto:rajawilliamsmith@yahoo.comrajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com 
mailto:rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   The median home income shoul

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you 
that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He 
creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or 
jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many 
businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, 
nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and 
their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the 
cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he 
has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes use 
of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, make 
lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, given 
the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself and 
compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could 
change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, making 
it more competitive to be made in America.
A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE DECIDED 
THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ENCOURAGE? 
OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS SIMPLY LYING 
TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU THINK HE HAD 
HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME TO BELIEVE 
CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF PRODUCING 
OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME PRESIDENT HE 
WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU HAVE $1000 TO 
WAGER?


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns
|  |
|  | |  | Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president. |  |
| View on www.nytimes.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

So your dad never offshored?

Business people just do what is good for their bottom line.  The way you 
solve this is by taxing corporations heavily for offshoring.  Make it 
worthwhile to bring manufacturing back. They'll wince because Jimmy down 
the street isn't as reliable a Xin Wu in China.


On 06/30/2016 07:49 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He 
makes use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives 
you a lemon, make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what 
he sets out to do, given the tools available.  Yes, he could make his 
own products here by himself and compete with those using China or 
Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could change the trade deals so 
that its favorable for others to do the same, making it more 
competitive to be made in America.


A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American 
workers by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a 
buck - abandon those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise 
manufactured elsewhere. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It 
is a simple point, an elementary logical question, given the context. 
Are you this stubborn or dense or simply willing to tolerate blatant 
hypocrisy?




*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and 
successful businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by 
congress, including tax laws to make a profit.


MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK 
HE DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE 
WANTS TO ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL 
DOESN'T BUT HE IS SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND 
VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING 
TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME T! O BELIEVE CLOSING ALL 
LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF PRODUCING 
OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME 
PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? 
DO YOU HAVE $1000 TO WAGER?




*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles 
overseas. I know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough 
about making their goods on this Continent that they have continued to 
do so. I have no problem with companies employing people in poorer 
countries to make North American goods but I do have a problem with 
hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do another. Who sells a 
big fat lie to the American people while not supporting one iota 
anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" -! no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.




*From:* "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html>




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Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... 
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html>
As a businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap forei! gn 
labor that he vows to clamp down on if elected president.


View on www.nytimes.com 
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Preview by Yahoo







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been 
shipping our manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs 
here. We allow people to come here to take the lower paying jobs that 
seem to be beyond some people's *dignity* level, although food stamps, 
unemployment and w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Yep.  And product/gadget technologies that are destabilizing to the human 
system, without cultivated or deeper spiritual discernments of what the gadgets 
do to us. 
 

 
 A lot of this cultural consumerism, materialism, seems to suffer from the 
dis-integrated perspective of a lacking evident perspective of spiritual 
experience. Yep, suffering in poor modeling, ignorance in poor spiritual 
education and guidance, and a consequent cultural lack of spiritual discipline. 
 

 It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many people as possible into debt for 
wage slavery.  Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.
 
 I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. Everybody 
has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they can afford it or 
not! 

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 Remember the housing bubble? Get everyone into a house... whether they can 
afford it or not. Not sure you can completely blame the banks though. They were 
under pressure to lend to people that couldn't afford a house. If they didn't , 
they were racist! Hopefully there would be enough good loans to make up for the 
bad ones.
 
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   
 What that means is the current standard of living is artificial and inflated 
because it is using too much credit putting people into debt.  Learned my 
lesson on this going into debt to do the TM-Sidhis course.  Quit the music gig 
I had to do another gig that fell through and that put me into financial 
straits for a couple years.  I learned to use credit wisely paying off the 
balance most the time unless I really do need to amortize something within my 
means.
 
 Living in the SF Bay Area I could understand rising housing prices.  In 2000 
my apartment rent for a 1 bedroom den cost about as much as a house payment so 
bought a house instead.  Housing prices continued to go on the rise because 
many communities in the Bay Area blocked new housing.  But there was actually 
no reason for housing prices to rise across much of the US including in the 
small ho-dunk town I grew up in.  It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many 
people as possible into debt for wage slavery.
  
 On 06/30/2016 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. 
Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they can afford 
it or not! So, they borrow and borrow to get what they want, end up in enormous 
debt. Nobody has any savings. Yeah, it revs up an economy but with nothing to 
run on once it's rev'd. Banks used to use peoples savings to lend and make 
their profits. Now there aren't any savings to use. They go to the Fed who just 
prints it up, making it worthless in the long run.
 Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.
 
 

 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   
 The US economy has progressively become more and more lopsided in favor of the 
rich ever since the Reagan administration.  Improvements have not raised 
everyone's boat.  Some solutions are poor like raising the minimum wage won't 
help a lot since businesses will just increase their prices (usually way too 
much) to compensate.  
 
 Minimum wage jobs were intended for students and part time casual and 
unskilled workers.  Even then back in the day one could still rent a house (or 
even buy), afford a car, dine out, go to movies on a minimum wage income.  No 
more.  Greed took over.
 
 As far as I can see the only solution is a total economic collapse taking out 
the rich as well.  Basically a reboot of the economy.
 
 On 06/29/2016 10:11 PM, 
mailto:rajawilliamsmith@yahoo.comrajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com 
mailto:rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 




 
 








 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes 
use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, 
make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, 
given the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself 
and compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he 
could change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, 
making it more competitive to be made in America.
 

 A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers 
by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon 
those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. 
Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary 
logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply 
willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy?
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
 

 MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE 
DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO 
ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS 
SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU 
THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME 
TO BELIEVE CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF 
PRODUCING OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME 
PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU 
HAVE $1000 TO WAGER?
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president.


 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <F

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes use 
of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, make 
lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, given 
the tools available.  Yes, he could make his own products here by himself and 
compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could 
change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, making 
it more competitive to be made in America.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE DECIDED 
THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ENCOURAGE? 
OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS SIMPLY LYING 
TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU THINK HE HAD 
HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME TO BELIEVE 
CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF PRODUCING 
OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME PRESIDENT HE 
WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU HAVE $1000 TO 
WAGER?


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns
|  |
|  | |  | Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president. |  |
| View on www.nytimes.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made? We've become a debtor nation, 
borrowing to meet our needs and service oriented in what jobs remain. When God 
spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed His laws(in 
tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the tail, the 
lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, fall out 
of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your lender 
because you'll depend on him to meet your need.
Any of this sound familiar?

  From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more money 
at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world are 
much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 





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#d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.
 

 MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE 
DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO 
ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS 
SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU 
THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME 
TO BELIEVE CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF 
PRODUCING OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME 
PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU 
HAVE $1000 TO WAGER?
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president.


 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 














 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful 
businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax 
laws to make a profit.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns
|  |
|  | |  | Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president. |  |
| View on www.nytimes.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made? We've become a debtor nation, 
borrowing to meet our needs and service oriented in what jobs remain. When God 
spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed His laws(in 
tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the tail, the 
lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, fall out 
of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your lender 
because you'll depend on him to meet your need.
Any of this sound familiar?

  From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more money 
at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world are 
much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, that's what I discussed in my post.

On 06/30/2016 03:32 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Remember the housing bubble? Get everyone into a house... whether they 
can afford it or not. Not sure you can completely blame the banks 
though. They were under pressure to lend to people that couldn't 
afford a house. If they didn't , they were racist! Hopefully there 
would be enough good loans to make up for the bad ones.




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

What that means is the current standard of living is artificial and 
inflated because it is using too much credit putting people into 
debt.  Learned my lesson on this going into debt to do the TM-Sidhis 
course.  Quit the music gig I had to do another gig that fell through 
and that put me into financial straits for a couple years.  I learned 
to use credit wisely paying off the balance most the time unless I 
really do need to amortize something within my means.


Living in the SF Bay Area I could understand rising housing prices.  
In 2000 my apartment rent for a 1 bedroom den cost about as much as a 
house payment so bought a house instead. Housing prices continued to 
go on the rise because many communities in the Bay Area blocked new 
housing.  But there was actually no reason for housing prices to rise 
across much of the US including in the small ho-dunk town I grew up 
in.  It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many people as possible 
into debt for wage slavery.


On 06/30/2016 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. 
Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they 
can afford it or not! So, they borrow and borrow to get what they 
want, end up in enormous debt. Nobody has any savings. Yeah, it revs 
up an economy but with nothing to run on once it's rev'd. Banks used 
to use peoples savings to lend and make their profits. Now there 
aren't any savings to use. They go to the Fed who just prints it up, 
making it worthless in the long run.

Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
<mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

The US economy has progressively become more and more lopsided in 
favor of the rich ever since the Reagan administration. Improvements 
have not raised everyone's boat.  Some solutions are poor like 
raising the minimum wage won't help a lot since businesses will just 
increase their prices (usually way too much) to compensate.


Minimum wage jobs were intended for students and part time casual and 
unskilled workers.  Even then back in the day one could still rent a 
house (or even buy), afford a car, dine out, go to movies on a 
minimum wage income.  No more.  Greed took over.


As far as I can see the only solution is a total economic collapse 
taking out the rich as well. Basically a reboot of the economy.


On 06/29/2016 10:11 PM, rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The median home income should be way up, more women are making much 
more money at least until 2007, more two income families. More 
people in the world are much wealthier, China, South American 
countries. and there is a lot of neat things we have with tremendous 
value, smart phones for example, which we didn't have in 1973.  A 
lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to society, 
stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.

There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I 
know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods 
on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with 
companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but 
I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do 
another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting 
one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no 
gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president.


 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Remember the housing bubble? Get everyone into a house... whether they can 
afford it or not. Not sure you can completely blame the banks though. They were 
under pressure to lend to people that couldn't afford a house. If they didn't , 
they were racist! Hopefully there would be enough good loans to make up for the 
bad ones.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
 What that means is the current standard of living is artificial and 
inflated because it is using too much credit putting people into debt.  Learned 
my lesson on this going into debt to do the TM-Sidhis course.  Quit the music 
gig I had to do another gig that fell through and that put me into financial 
straits for a couple years.  I learned to use credit wisely paying off the 
balance most the time unless I really do need to amortize something within my 
means.
 
 Living in the SF Bay Area I could understand rising housing prices.  In 2000 
my apartment rent for a 1 bedroom den cost about as much as a house payment so 
bought a house instead.  Housing prices continued to go on the rise because 
many communities in the Bay Area blocked new housing.  But there was actually 
no reason for housing prices to rise across much of the US including in the 
small ho-dunk town I grew up in.  It seemed to be a conspiracy to put as many 
people as possible into debt for wage slavery.
  
 On 06/30/2016 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. 
Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they can afford 
 it or not! So, they borrow and borrow to get what they want, end up in 
enormous debt. Nobody has any savings. Yeah, it revs up an economy but with 
nothing to run on once it's rev'd. Banks used to use peoples savings to lend 
and make their profits. Now there aren't any savings to use. They go to the Fed 
who just prints it up, making it worthless in the long run.
 Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on. 
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
  
      The US economy has progressively become more and more lopsided in 
favor of the  rich ever since the Reagan administration.  Improvements have not 
raised everyone's boat.  Some solutions are poor like raising the minimum wage 
won't help a lot since  businesses will just increase their prices (usually way 
too much) to compensate.  
 
 Minimum wage jobs were intended for students and part time casual and 
unskilled workers.  Even then back in the day one could still rent a house (or 
even buy), afford a car, dine out,  go to movies on a minimum wage income.  No 
more.  Greed took over.
 
 As far as I can see the only solution is a total economic collapse taking out 
the rich as well.  Basically a reboot of the economy.
 
 On 06/29/2016 10:11 PM, rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    The median home income should be way up, more women are making much  more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much  wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of 
neat things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we 
didn't have in  1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but  we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone.   
 
 
 

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

What that means is the current standard of living is artificial and 
inflated because it is using too much credit putting people into debt.  
Learned my lesson on this going into debt to do the TM-Sidhis course.  
Quit the music gig I had to do another gig that fell through and that 
put me into financial straits for a couple years.  I learned to use 
credit wisely paying off the balance most the time unless I really do 
need to amortize something within my means.


Living in the SF Bay Area I could understand rising housing prices.  In 
2000 my apartment rent for a 1 bedroom den cost about as much as a house 
payment so bought a house instead.  Housing prices continued to go on 
the rise because many communities in the Bay Area blocked new housing.  
But there was actually no reason for housing prices to rise across much 
of the US including in the small ho-dunk town I grew up in.  It seemed 
to be a conspiracy to put as many people as possible into debt for wage 
slavery.


On 06/30/2016 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I think one of the problems is that we've become a consumer nation. 
Everybody has to have the latest gadget/technology now, whether they 
can afford it or not! So, they borrow and borrow to get what they 
want, end up in enormous debt. Nobody has any savings. Yeah, it revs 
up an economy but with nothing to run on once it's rev'd. Banks used 
to use peoples savings to lend and make their profits. Now there 
aren't any savings to use. They go to the Fed who just prints it up, 
making it worthless in the long run.

Ah say, ah say .. there's just too much consumin' goin' on.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

The US economy has progressively become more and more lopsided in 
favor of the rich ever since the Reagan administration.  Improvements 
have not raised everyone's boat.  Some solutions are poor like raising 
the minimum wage won't help a lot since businesses will just increase 
their prices (usually way too much) to compensate.


Minimum wage jobs were intended for students and part time casual and 
unskilled workers.  Even then back in the day one could still rent a 
house (or even buy), afford a car, dine out, go to movies on a minimum 
wage income.  No more.  Greed took over.


As far as I can see the only solution is a total economic collapse 
taking out the rich as well.  Basically a reboot of the economy.


On 06/29/2016 10:11 PM, rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The median home income should be way up, more women are making much 
more money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people 
in the world are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and 
there is a lot of neat things we have with tremendous value, smart 
phones for example, which we didn't have in 1973.  A lot of what 
wealthy people own is really at service to society, stocks in 
companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of natural 
resources, like ozone.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The US economy has progressively become more and more lopsided in favor 
of the rich ever since the Reagan administration.  Improvements have not 
raised everyone's boat. Some solutions are poor like raising the minimum 
wage won't help a lot since businesses will just increase their prices 
(usually way too much) to compensate.


Minimum wage jobs were intended for students and part time casual and 
unskilled workers.  Even then back in the day one could still rent a 
house (or even buy), afford a car, dine out, go to movies on a minimum 
wage income.  No more.  Greed took over.


As far as I can see the only solution is a total economic collapse 
taking out the rich as well.  Basically a reboot of the economy.


On 06/29/2016 10:11 PM, rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


The median home income should be way up, more women are making much 
more money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people 
in the world are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and 
there is a lot of neat things we have with tremendous value, smart 
phones for example, which we didn't have in 1973.  A lot of what 
wealthy people own is really at service to society, stocks in 
companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of natural 
resources, like ozone.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
||
||||   Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract...  
As a businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that 
he vows to clamp down on if elected president.||
|  View on www.nytimes.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

 





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made? We've become a debtor nation, 
borrowing to meet our needs and service oriented in what jobs remain. When God 
spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed His laws(in 
tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the tail, the 
lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, fall out 
of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your lender 
because you'll depend on him to meet your need.
Any of this sound familiar?

  From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more money 
at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world are 
much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 
 Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html As a 
businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he 
vows to clamp down on if elected president.
 
 
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

My 1998 Subaru Forester was made in Indiana and still going strong.

On 06/30/2016 08:30 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Do you ever wonder *why* industries move over seas? Cheaper labor, 
lower taxes, less regulation. Do you see the trend here? Fifteen an 
hour... minimum, even if your job is emptying garbage cans or flipping 
burgers.Next thing you know there will have to be a special french 
frying pension for a life time of service.Businesses need to pay their 
*fair share* of taxes so people can live on unemployment and can be 
sued at the drop of a hat and have to produce a lower *carbon foot 
print* for the *children*.

BTW, I drive a Jeep Wrangler. Made in Ohio. My third one.

My 2015 VW Golf was made in Mexico.



*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been 
shipping our manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs 
here. We allow people to come here to take the lower paying jobs that 
seem to be beyond some people's *dignity* level, although food stamps, 
unemployment and welfare aren't. Where are those smart phones, smart 
TV's etc. made?
 We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
 When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they 
followed His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the 
head and not the tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not 
the servant. In other words, fall out of dharma and you become the 
tail, the servant and a slave to your lender because you'll depend on 
him to meet your need.

Any of this sound familiar?

I always shake my head at you hypocrites. I work in retail and I see 
it all the time. I'll have two items that are virtually the same, 
let's say a pair or gloves or a sweater. One of them is made off shore 
and costs (retail) $50. The other one is made in the USA or Canada and 
it costs $95. Then the customer will start nattering away about not 
wanting to buy any of the cheap crap made in China and they don't like 
China's human rights track record and on and on. Meanwhile they're 
trying on the gloves or the sweater and they eventually look at the 
price tag. 99 times out of a 100 they will buy the less expensive item 
EVEN THOUGH I TELL THEM THAT ONE IS MADE IN CHINA AND THE OTHER ONE IS 
MADE IN NORTH AMERICA.


So, guess what? When I talk to all of my wholesalers and company 
owners they tell me they simply have to take their products and have 
them made in less expensive countries because that is what the market 
wants and that they can't compete unless they do I! understand how 
that could be. Every year another one of my suppliers knuckles under 
and takes their products to China or India or Vietnam to be 
manufactured because that is what the North American population wants 
when you get right down to what happens at the check out. You do it, I 
do it, virtually all of us do it. Do you ever check the labels of 
where your stuff is made? What kind of car do you drive? I know where 
every last one of my over 6000 different products I carry in my store 
are made because I broker them all. American and Canadian companies 
have gone to other countries because the market has demanded it.
Who is the market? You and I. Who are many of the workers who have 
lost jobs due to outsourcing? The North Americans. But you can't have 
it both ways - you can't have a manufacturing job and still have your 
Costco's and your Walmarts and your electronics stores full of 
foreign-made and cheaper goods.




*From:* "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

The median home income should be way up, more women are making much 
more money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people 
in the world are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and 
there is a lot of neat things we have with tremendous value, smart 
phones for example, which we didn't have in 1973.  A lot of what 
wealthy people own is really at service to society, stocks in 
companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of natural 
resources, like ozone.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Do you ever wonder *why* industries move over seas? Cheaper labor, lower 
taxes, less regulation. Do you see the trend here? Fifteen an hour... minimum, 
even if your job is emptying garbage cans or flipping burgers.Next thing you 
know there will have to be a special french frying pension for a life time of 
service.Businesses need to pay their *fair share* of taxes so people can live 
on unemployment and can be sued at the drop of a hat and have to produce a 
lower *carbon foot print* for the *children*.

 BTW, I drive a Jeep Wrangler. Made in Ohio. My third one.
 

 My 2015 VW Golf was made in Mexico.
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 

 I always shake my head at you hypocrites. I work in retail and I see it all 
the time. I'll have two items that are virtually the same, let's say a pair or 
gloves or a sweater. One of them is made off shore and costs (retail) $50. The 
other one is made in the USA or Canada and it costs $95. Then the customer will 
start nattering away about not wanting to buy any of the cheap crap made in 
China and they don't like China's human rights track record and on and on. 
Meanwhile they're trying on the gloves or the sweater and they eventually look 
at the price tag. 99 times out of a 100 they will buy the less expensive item 
EVEN THOUGH I TELL THEM THAT ONE IS MADE IN CHINA AND THE OTHER ONE IS MADE IN 
NORTH AMERICA.
 

 So, guess what? When I talk to all of my wholesalers and company owners they 
tell me they simply have to take their products and have them made in less 
expensive countries because that is what the market wants and that they can't 
compete unless they do I understand how that could be. Every year another one 
of my suppliers knuckles under and takes their products to China or India or 
Vietnam to be manufactured because that is what the North American population 
wants when you get right down to what happens at the check out. You do it, I do 
it, virtually all of us do it. Do you ever check the labels of where your stuff 
is made? What kind of car do you drive? I know where every last one of my over 
6000 different products I carry in my store are made because I broker them all. 
American and Canadian companies have gone to other countries because the market 
has demanded it. 
 Who is the market? You and I. Who are many of the workers who have lost jobs 
due to outsourcing? The North Americans. But you can't have it both ways - you 
can't have a manufacturing job and still have your Costco's and your Walmarts 
and your electronics stores full of foreign-made and cheaper goods. 
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Do you ever wonder *why* industries move over seas? Cheaper labor, lower 
taxes, less regulation. Do you see the trend here? Fifteen an hour... minimum, 
even if your job is emptying garbage cans or flipping burgers.Next thing you 
know there will have to be a special french frying pension for a life time of 
service.Businesses need to pay their *fair share* of taxes so people can live 
on unemployment and can be sued at the drop of a hat and have to produce a 
lower *carbon foot print* for the *children*.

 BTW, I drive a Jeep Wrangler. Made in Ohio. My third one.
 

 Yes, but who are making the decisions to move overseas? Your fellow Americans 
(corporate decisions and business owners), that's who and that decision is 
driven by your other fellow American's need for cheap goods. Market determines 
outcome. Everyone needs to take responsibility for that.
 

 At one time the Wrangler was built in Ontario from 1986 until 1992 but it 
subsequently moved to the plant in Toledo.
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 

 I always shake my head at you hypocrites. I work in retail and I see it all 
the time. I'll have two items that are virtually the same, let's say a pair or 
gloves or a sweater. One of them is made off shore and costs (retail) $50. The 
other one is made in the USA or Canada and it costs $95. Then the customer will 
start nattering away about not wanting to buy any of the cheap crap made in 
China and they don't like China's human rights track record and on and on. 
Meanwhile they're trying on the gloves or the sweater and they eventually look 
at the price tag. 99 times out of a 100 they will buy the less expensive item 
EVEN THOUGH I TELL THEM THAT ONE IS MADE IN CHINA AND THE OTHER ONE IS MADE IN 
NORTH AMERICA.
 

 So, guess what? When I talk to all of my wholesalers and company owners they 
tell me they simply have to take their products and have them made in less 
expensive countries because that is what the market wants and that they can't 
compete unless they do I understand how that could be. Every year another one 
of my suppliers knuckles under and takes their products to China or India or 
Vietnam to be manufactured because that is what the North American population 
wants when you get right down to what happens at the check out. You do it, I do 
it, virtually all of us do it. Do you ever check the labels of where your stuff 
is made? What kind of car do you drive? I know where every last one of my over 
6000 different products I carry in my store are made because I broker them all. 
American and Canadian companies have gone to other countries because the market 
has demanded it. 
 Who is the market? You and I. Who are many of the workers who have lost jobs 
due to outsourcing? The North Americans. But you can't have it both ways - you 
can't have a manufacturing job and still have your Costco's and your Walmarts 
and your electronics stores full of foreign-made and cheaper goods. 
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

 
   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Do you ever wonder *why* industries move over seas? Cheaper labor, lower taxes, 
less regulation. Do you see the trend here? Fifteen an hour... minimum, even if 
your job is emptying garbage cans or flipping burgers.Next thing you know there 
will have to be a special french frying pension for a life time of 
service.Businesses need to pay their *fair share* of taxes so people can live 
on unemployment and can be sued at the drop of a hat and have to produce a 
lower *carbon foot print* for the *children*.
BTW, I drive a Jeep Wrangler. Made in Ohio. My third one.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made? We've become a debtor nation, 
borrowing to meet our needs and service oriented in what jobs remain. When God 
spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed His laws(in 
tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the tail, the 
lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, fall out 
of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your lender 
because you'll depend on him to meet your need.
Any of this sound familiar?
I always shake my head at you hypocrites. I work in retail and I see it all the 
time. I'll have two items that are virtually the same, let's say a pair or 
gloves or a sweater. One of them is made off shore and costs (retail) $50. The 
other one is made in the USA or Canada and it costs $95. Then the customer will 
start nattering away about not wanting to buy any of the cheap crap made in 
China and they don't like China's human rights track record and on and on. 
Meanwhile they're trying on the gloves or the sweater and they eventually look 
at the price tag. 99 times out of a 100 they will buy the less expensive item 
EVEN THOUGH I TELL THEM THAT ONE IS MADE IN CHINA AND THE OTHER ONE IS MADE IN 
NORTH AMERICA.
So, guess what? When I talk to all of my wholesalers and company owners they 
tell me they simply have to take their products and have them made in less 
expensive countries because that is what the market wants and that they can't 
compete unless they do I understand how that could be. Every year another one 
of my suppliers knuckles under and takes their products to China or India or 
Vietnam to be manufactured because that is what the North American population 
wants when you get right down to what happens at the check out. You do it, I do 
it, virtually all of us do it. Do you ever check the labels of where your stuff 
is made? What kind of car do you drive? I know where every last one of my over 
6000 different products I carry in my store are made because I broker them all. 
American and Canadian companies have gone to other countries because the market 
has demanded it. Who is the market? You and I. Who are many of the workers who 
have lost jobs due to outsourcing? The North Americans. But you can't have it 
both ways - you can't have a manufacturing job and still have your Costco's and 
your Walmarts and your electronics stores full of foreign-made and cheaper 
goods. 

  From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more money 
at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world are 
much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made?
  We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service 
oriented in what jobs remain.
  When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed 
His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the 
tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, 
fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your 
lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need.

 Any of this sound familiar?
 

 I always shake my head at you hypocrites. I work in retail and I see it all 
the time. I'll have two items that are virtually the same, let's say a pair or 
gloves or a sweater. One of them is made off shore and costs (retail) $50. The 
other one is made in the USA or Canada and it costs $95. Then the customer will 
start nattering away about not wanting to buy any of the cheap crap made in 
China and they don't like China's human rights track record and on and on. 
Meanwhile they're trying on the gloves or the sweater and they eventually look 
at the price tag. 99 times out of a 100 they will buy the less expensive item 
EVEN THOUGH I TELL THEM THAT ONE IS MADE IN CHINA AND THE OTHER ONE IS MADE IN 
NORTH AMERICA.
 

 So, guess what? When I talk to all of my wholesalers and company owners they 
tell me they simply have to take their products and have them made in less 
expensive countries because that is what the market wants and that they can't 
compete unless they do I understand how that could be. Every year another one 
of my suppliers knuckles under and takes their products to China or India or 
Vietnam to be manufactured because that is what the North American population 
wants when you get right down to what happens at the check out. You do it, I do 
it, virtually all of us do it. Do you ever check the labels of where your stuff 
is made? What kind of car do you drive? I know where every last one of my over 
6000 different products I carry in my store are made because I broker them all. 
American and Canadian companies have gone to other countries because the market 
has demanded it. 
 Who is the market? You and I. Who are many of the workers who have lost jobs 
due to outsourcing? The North Americans. But you can't have it both ways - you 
can't have a manufacturing job and still have your Costco's and your Walmarts 
and your electronics stores full of foreign-made and cheaper goods. 
 


 From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
 
 
   The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone. 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our 
manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to 
come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's 
*dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where 
are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made? We've become a debtor nation, 
borrowing to meet our needs and service oriented in what jobs remain. When God 
spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed His laws(in 
tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the tail, the 
lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, fall out 
of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your lender 
because you'll depend on him to meet your need.
Any of this sound familiar?

  From: "rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn
   
    The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more 
money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world 
are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone.   #yiv9141762377 #yiv9141762377 -- 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn

[rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more money 
at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world are 
much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat 
things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't 
have in 1973.  A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to 
society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of 
natural resources, like ozone.