[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[authfriend]

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > > > > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > > > > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > > > > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.
> > > 
> > > Doc, are you kidding?  I mean think about it - is Barry the
> > > only person here on FFL that has "shit all over someone"?
> > 
[I wrote:]
> > Susan, you need to think about it. DrD never said Barry
> > was the only person here on FFL who has done that.
> 
> Judy, you missed the point.  You need to think about that.
> Of course I know Dr D did not think Barry was the only person
> on FFL to shit all over someone. That was my point and I knew
> DR had that awareness.  I was merely pointing it out to him.
> You missed the main oint, the gist, and focused on a detail
> with no relevance to what we were talking about.

No, Susan, of course I got the "main oint [sic], the gist,"
as I went on to demonstrate by disagreeing with it. I think
what you "pointed out" to DrD was irrelevant to *his* point,
which was a pattern of behavior peculiar to Barry.

> > > Several other people here seem to feel quite free and expert
> > > in putting down other people and calling them names (I would
> > > say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling
> > > and putdowns, and they do so frequently)
> > 
> > Bit of a difference, Susan. I never do so *gratuitously*,
> > and I never do it *dishonestly*. Plus which, I'll respond
> > if someone wants to engage with what I say. I don't do hit-
> > and-runs. Nor do I diagnose mental disorders in people I'm
> > not on good terms with.
> 
> However you want to characterize, or rather talk about the
> bad" things you don't do, you ourself Judy manage to put
> down others frequently here.  It may be a bit of a difference
> in how you go about doing so, but you do, as you know.

Yes, as I know *and acknowledged*. The way I do it, however,
is so different from the way Barry does it that it seems
absurd for you to even mention me in the context of what
DrD was saying. That's what's called "false equivalence."
Same with Ravi, for that matter. He's a pussycat compared
to Barry.

> > > Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a
> > > strange guy.  No argument there.
> > 
> > Nor is that the problem, as you know--or should.
> 
> Of course, I did not say it was the problem and of course I
> know it is not.  I was summarizing the past relationship.
> You should know that.

See, if what you were doing was "summarizing the past
relationship" between Barry and Robin, then it very
much *is* the problem.

But that wasn't at all clear in what you wrote (and if
it was what you meant, as noted, it was off-the-wall
wrong; I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed
you meant something that made sense).

It seemed that you were referring to what most of us
here would agree about--what Xeno and I discussed earlier,
that Robin isn't "average." "Strange" might well be one
way of putting that. "Unusual" might be another. We've
certainly not seen anyone like him on FFL before (at
least during my tenure here).

But he isn't unusual or "strange" in any sense that
should drive a sane person to hate his guts and
viciously attack him at every opportunity, as Barry
obviously does.

> > > Now, Barry posted something written by other people.   My
> > > take was that it was not  focusing on Robin and his
> > > personality and his diagnoses or problems; it was about
> > > the events of that time as seen thru the theme of
> > > spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions
> > > or dissolve.
> > 
> > You apparently didn't bother to read Barry's post with
> > any attention. The big deal for Barry was that the book
> > excerpt appeared to contradict what Robin has said about
> > his devotion to Maharishi. (There are problems with that
> > conclusion, but I've addressed them briefly in another
> > post.)

I notice you didn't acknowledge this.

> > > Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY
> > > and the TMO.  Personally I thought it was interesting to get
> > > an objective view of those years in the TMO. There were some
> > > details about Robin's activities that I did not know about,
> > > and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it had
> > > changed for the worse.  It was a rather clear summary from
> > > one point of view.
> > 
> > I have no problem with this precis. But then you go on
> > to say:
> > 
> > > I hardly consider that "shitting all over Robin."
> > 
> > Susan, your reading comprehension ain't so good these
> > days. DrD didn't say it was. Go read the quote from his
> > post at the top, see if you can figure out where you
> > went wrong. If not, I'll be happy to help.
> 
> As you see below, my next post (jsut af ew minut

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[azgrey]

Yes Lurk, Dr. Jack Cass could use some mental floss. Preferable mint flavored. 
Sharing with Angry Arrogant Ann would be very compassionate.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature
> knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin,
> and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> objectivity.
> >
> > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so
> bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> >
> > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> have
> > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
> How
> > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > >
> > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> that
> > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> someone
> > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> something
> > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> phenomenon
> > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
> or
> > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> about
> > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> during
> > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > >
> > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> cannot
> > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
> at
> > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> \
> > >
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> \
> > >
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> \
> > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > >
> Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> \
> > >
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> \
> > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[sparaig]

As understand it, MMY said that Robin Carlson's experiences of Unity (book says 
"Cosmic Consciousness") were valid and asked him to describe them.

Robin took this as a personal declaration of his own full enlightenment and, 
like others have done, refused to "go and be viable in society," but instead 
got full of himself.

MMY not wanting to comment in public on Robin's enlightenment is no more 
significant than him not wanting to comment on MY  enlightenment: it's not his 
place to micromanage arbitrary people's states of consciousness.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> Quite interesting.  I know others will say why even bother with
> something over thirty years old, but some of this (beginning on page
> 289) directly contradicts many of Robin's avowed claims.  Sad really.
> 
> Judy always trots out the article of faith that Maharishi secretly
> supported Robin.  Sort of blows that up, doesn't it?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> have
> > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms: How
> > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> >
> > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> that
> > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone
> > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something
> > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon
> > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story or
> > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about
> > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> during
> > his 15 minutes of fame.
> >
> > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot
> > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at
> > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > >
> >
> >
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> \
> >
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> \
> >
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> \
> > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > >
> Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> \
> >
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> \
> > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Yes, he has sunburned his psyche, when it comes to taking criticism. So stuff 
that rolls off me like water off a duck's back, sears into Barry as if his 
responders had thrown acid on him. By pushing out negative thoughts for so 
long, he kinda fucked himself.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your 
> > ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a 
> > striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times 
> > as you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if 
> > scalded.
> 
> Barry will also wait until Judy is close to or has posted out for the week 
> then out he comes slapping his posts all over FFL like cheap posters on the 
> side of walls and telephone poles. The internet is a wonderful medium for 
> bullies and cowards - there is so little accountability when you can simply 
> walk away from the computer or never have to look at someone in the face.
> > 
> > Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my 
> > last post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me 
> > Jimbo or Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. 
> > This time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > > > > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> > > > 
> > > > I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> > > > is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> > > > out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> > > > to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> > > > positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> > > > 
> > > > And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> > > > been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> > > > of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> > > > for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> > > > 
> > > > In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> > > > other parties decide to run with it.
> > > 
> > > "Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
> > > that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
> > > react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
> > > intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
> > > in the past.
> > > 
> > > "Run away! Run away! Run away!"
> > > 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc
> > > 
> > > :-)
> > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > > > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> > > > nature
> > > > > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> > > > Robin,
> > > > > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > > > > objectivity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> > > > so
> > > > > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > > > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> > > > to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> > > > Schisms:
> > > > > > How
> > > > > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
> > > > indicate
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > > > > > phenomenon
> > > > > > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the
> > > > story
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > another. It s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Is this supposed to be your "tough guy" routine??

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Gee, Jimbo, for an "enlightened" person you seem to have 
> your panties in an awful twist. I was just pointing out 
> that your 'tude is reminiscent of all those times you 
> have embarrassed yourself so thoroughly on this forum 
> that you build up to a fever pitch of invective and then 
> disappear for a while, only to "come back" a few months 
> later with a whole new posting ID, and try for a "do over." 
> 
> Who will you be next time? Curious minds want to know 
> in advance. :-)
> 
> For that matter, since we've pretty much established over 
> the last few days that Judy can't handle Yes/No questions 
> about past actions she's a bit...uh...embarrassed about, 
> let's see how *you* do with such a question:
> 
> "Jim Flanegin, did you ever post to Fairfield Life under 
> the screen name of "enlightened_dawn11" between September 
> 2008 and May 2009?"
> 
> Assuming you finally have the balls to say "Yes" (you 
> never *have* had the...uh...balls to be able to admit it), 
> a followup non-Yes/No question might be: 
> 
> "WTF were you *thinking*, posing as a woman all that time?"
> 
> :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed 
> > when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer 
> > post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say 
> > nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, 
> > but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if 
> > scalded.
> > 
> > Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had 
> > mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your 
> > imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending 
> > on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This 
> > time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > > > > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> > > > 
> > > > I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> > > > is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> > > > out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> > > > to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> > > > positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> > > > 
> > > > And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> > > > been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> > > > of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> > > > for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> > > > 
> > > > In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> > > > other parties decide to run with it.
> > > 
> > > "Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
> > > that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
> > > react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
> > > intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
> > > in the past.
> > > 
> > > "Run away! Run away! Run away!"
> > > 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc
> > > 
> > > :-)
> > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > > > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> > > > nature
> > > > > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> > > > Robin,
> > > > > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > > > > objectivity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> > > > so
> > > > > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > > > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> > > > to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> > > > Schisms:
> > > > > > How
> > > > > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > edito

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Share Long]

turq, what we know is that Robin is not currently posting. We can only 
speculate as to why. It could be that he's wisely and compassionately avoiding 
a situation that neither benefits him nor others. It could be something else. 
It could be a mix of reasons. And I could be wrong. Robin himself has said that 
I don't understand him. Be that as it may, I prefer to think well of him. And 
if he gives me reason to think otherwise, to deal with that in the present.





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> 
> I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> 
> And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> 
> In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> other parties decide to run with it.

"Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
in the past.

"Run away! Run away! Run away!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc

:-)

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> nature
> > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> Robin,
> > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > objectivity.
> > > >
> > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> so
> > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> to
> > > have
> > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> Schisms:
> > > How
> > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> the
> > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
> indicate
> > > that
> > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > someone
> > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > something
> > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > > phenomenon
> > > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the
> story
> > > or
> > > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > > about
> > > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > > during
> > > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a
> Google
> > > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and
> third)
> > > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > > cannot
> > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your 
> ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a 
> striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as 
> you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded.

Barry will also wait until Judy is close to or has posted out for the week then 
out he comes slapping his posts all over FFL like cheap posters on the side of 
walls and telephone poles. The internet is a wonderful medium for bullies and 
cowards - there is so little accountability when you can simply walk away from 
the computer or never have to look at someone in the face.
> 
> Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last 
> post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or 
> Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time 
> its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > > > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> > > 
> > > I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> > > is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> > > out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> > > to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> > > positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> > > 
> > > And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> > > been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> > > of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> > > for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> > > 
> > > In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> > > other parties decide to run with it.
> > 
> > "Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
> > that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
> > react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
> > intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
> > in the past.
> > 
> > "Run away! Run away! Run away!"
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> > > nature
> > > > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> > > Robin,
> > > > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > > > objectivity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> > > so
> > > > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> > > to
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> > > Schisms:
> > > > > How
> > > > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> > > the
> > > > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
> > > indicate
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > > > > phenomenon
> > > > > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the
> > > story
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > > > > during
> > > > > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a
> > > Google
> > > > > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and
> > > third)
> > > > > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[turquoiseb]

Gee, Jimbo, for an "enlightened" person you seem to have 
your panties in an awful twist. I was just pointing out 
that your 'tude is reminiscent of all those times you 
have embarrassed yourself so thoroughly on this forum 
that you build up to a fever pitch of invective and then 
disappear for a while, only to "come back" a few months 
later with a whole new posting ID, and try for a "do over." 

Who will you be next time? Curious minds want to know 
in advance. :-)

For that matter, since we've pretty much established over 
the last few days that Judy can't handle Yes/No questions 
about past actions she's a bit...uh...embarrassed about, 
let's see how *you* do with such a question:

"Jim Flanegin, did you ever post to Fairfield Life under 
the screen name of "enlightened_dawn11" between September 
2008 and May 2009?"

Assuming you finally have the balls to say "Yes" (you 
never *have* had the...uh...balls to be able to admit it), 
a followup non-Yes/No question might be: 

"WTF were you *thinking*, posing as a woman all that time?"

:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed 
> when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer 
> post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say 
> nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, 
> but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if 
> scalded.
> 
> Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had 
> mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your 
> imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending 
> on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This 
> time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > > > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> > > 
> > > I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> > > is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> > > out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> > > to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> > > positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> > > 
> > > And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> > > been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> > > of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> > > for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> > > 
> > > In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> > > other parties decide to run with it.
> > 
> > "Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
> > that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
> > react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
> > intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
> > in the past.
> > 
> > "Run away! Run away! Run away!"
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> > > nature
> > > > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> > > Robin,
> > > > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > > > objectivity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> > > so
> > > > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> > > to
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> > > Schisms:
> > > > > How
> > > > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> > > the
> > > > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
> > > indicate
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

OK. :-) We'll agree, to disagree. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of 
> > > > shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of 
> > > > hands for that.
> > > 
> > > Now you understand why the person who sent the 
> > > link to me in email didn't want to post it them-
> > > selves. 
> > > 
> > > Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't
> > > throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh?  :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > > > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > > > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > > > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.
> > 
> > Doc, are you kidding?  I mean think about it - is Barry the only person 
> > here on FFL that has "shit all over someone"?  Several other people here 
> > seem to feel quite free and expert in putting down other people and calling 
> > them names (I would say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name 
> > calling and putdowns, and they do so frequently)
> > 
> > Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a strange guy.  No 
> > argument there.  Now, Barry posted something written by other people.   My 
> > take was that it was not  focusing on Robin and his personality and his 
> > diagnoses or problems; it was about the events of that time as seen thru 
> > the theme of spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions or 
> > dissolve. Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY and 
> > the TMO.  Personally I thought it was interesting to get an objective view 
> > of those years in the TMO. There were some details about Robin's activities 
> > that I did not know about, and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and 
> > how it had changed for the worse.  It was a rather clear summary from one 
> > point of view.   I hardly consider that "shitting all over Robin."
> 
> And I meant to add, neither do I consider Barry's past posts about Robin to 
> be "shitting all over him." But then I too found Robin's writings odd and 
> uncomfortable to follow.  He appears to be extremely intelligent.  And it is 
> not that his posts were intellectually impossible to get, but that his whole 
> style and switching of topics and use of words made me feel as if I was being 
> manipulated (that is the best I can put it, and I did so directly to Robin 
> from day 1).
> > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, 
> > > > > or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they 
> > > > > fail to see their own transparency (in other words, 
> > > > > an idiot).
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > > >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
So, it's all about Robin. Jeez, what a cheap-skate you 
are, why not just buy the book and give us a review? 

Go figure. 

> Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste
>
Of course, you Moron, you can't CUT and paste from the 
internet, you can only COPY and paste - what a nerd. 

LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your 
ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a 
striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as 
you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded.

Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last 
post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or 
Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time its 
Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> > 
> > I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> > is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> > out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> > to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> > positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> > 
> > And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> > been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> > of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> > for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> > 
> > In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> > other parties decide to run with it.
> 
> "Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
> that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
> react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
> intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
> in the past.
> 
> "Run away! Run away! Run away!"
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc
> 
> :-)
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> > nature
> > > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> > Robin,
> > > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > > objectivity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> > so
> > > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> > Schisms:
> > > > How
> > > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> > the
> > > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
> > indicate
> > > > that
> > > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > > someone
> > > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > > something
> > > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > > > phenomenon
> > > > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the
> > story
> > > > or
> > > > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > > > about
> > > > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > > > during
> > > > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a
> > Google
> > > > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and
> > third)
> > > > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > > > cannot
> > > > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > > > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi
> > starts
> > > > at
> > > > > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> > \
> > > > \
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> > \
> > > > \
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
have
> someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms: How
> Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
>
> I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
that
> they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone
> with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something
> we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon
> presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story or
> another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about
> how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
during
> his 15 minutes of fame.
>
> The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot
> duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at
> the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > >
>
>
http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
\
>
obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
\
>
&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
\
> obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> >
Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
\
>
M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
\
> Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
Funny how things happen in pairs. I also have a lurker friend who, after
reading many of Barry's posts, had done some research on "the Barry
phenomena" and passed along a couple of relevant readings. They
professed hesitation at doing this themselves in order to avoid any
brouhaha so I am delivering the message for them. Enjoy!





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>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> > >
> > > wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of 
> > > shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of 
> > > hands for that.
> > 
> > Now you understand why the person who sent the 
> > link to me in email didn't want to post it them-
> > selves. 
> > 
> > Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't
> > throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh?  :-)
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.
> 
> Doc, are you kidding?  I mean think about it - is Barry the only person here 
> on FFL that has "shit all over someone"?  Several other people here seem to 
> feel quite free and expert in putting down other people and calling them 
> names (I would say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling 
> and putdowns, and they do so frequently)
> 
> Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a strange guy.  No 
> argument there.  Now, Barry posted something written by other people.   My 
> take was that it was not  focusing on Robin and his personality and his 
> diagnoses or problems; it was about the events of that time as seen thru the 
> theme of spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions or 
> dissolve. Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY and 
> the TMO.  Personally I thought it was interesting to get an objective view of 
> those years in the TMO. There were some details about Robin's activities that 
> I did not know about, and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it 
> had changed for the worse.  It was a rather clear summary from one point of 
> view.   I hardly consider that "shitting all over Robin."

And I meant to add, neither do I consider Barry's past posts about Robin to be 
"shitting all over him." But then I too found Robin's writings odd and 
uncomfortable to follow.  He appears to be extremely intelligent.  And it is 
not that his posts were intellectually impossible to get, but that his whole 
style and switching of topics and use of words made me feel as if I was being 
manipulated (that is the best I can put it, and I did so directly to Robin from 
day 1).
> 
> > > >
> > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, 
> > > > or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they 
> > > > fail to see their own transparency (in other words, 
> > > > an idiot).
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yes, that weak-minded reply to Robin set the stage, that Barry was incapable 
> of tracking Robin's thought process, and really had no clue what the man was 
> talking about. Then as Barry grew increasingly frustrated with his own lack 
> of comprehension, his commentary on Robin grew increasingly negative and 
> distorted.
> 
> The same response as a small child might have, when attempting to read a book 
> far beyond his capability. Barry is an excellent writer, for the 
> consciousness he reflects. The problem is that the consciousness is dim.

Why should Barry, or anyone be interested in Robin's thought processes? How do 
you interpret what Robin says? Say you had to explain what Robin says to 
someone who was, say, 15 years old, let us say I have the mental capacity of a 
15 year old (and you had better believe that is what some here think). What 
would you say Robin's message was?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about 
> > Robin, or his reputation on here.
> 
> I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something 
> is better than less information when you are sorting something 
> out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears 
> to "go against" Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has 
> positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). 
> 
> And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has 
> been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis 
> of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale 
> for such things), why not bring it to the table.
> 
> In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless 
> other parties decide to run with it.

"Run with it?" It's far more likely, given the thing 
that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll
react to people criticizing *him* instead of his 
intended victims the way both he and Robin have 
in the past.

"Run away! Run away! Run away!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc

:-)

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
> nature
> > > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
> Robin,
> > > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > > objectivity.
> > > >
> > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
> so
> > > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
> to
> > > have
> > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
> Schisms:
> > > How
> > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
> the
> > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
> indicate
> > > that
> > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > someone
> > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > something
> > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > > phenomenon
> > > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the
> story
> > > or
> > > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > > about
> > > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > > during
> > > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a
> Google
> > > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and
> third)
> > > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > > cannot
> > > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi
> starts
> > > at
> > > > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> \
> > > \
> > > > >
> > >
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> \
> > > \
> > > > >
> > >
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> \
> > > \
> > > > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > > > >
> > >
> Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> \
> > > \
> > > > >
> > >
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> \
> > > \
> > > > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > > > >
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> >
> > wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of 
> > shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of 
> > hands for that.
> 
> Now you understand why the person who sent the 
> link to me in email didn't want to post it them-
> selves. 
> 
> Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't
> throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh?  :-)
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.

Doc, are you kidding?  I mean think about it - is Barry the only person here on 
FFL that has "shit all over someone"?  Several other people here seem to feel 
quite free and expert in putting down other people and calling them names (I 
would say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling and putdowns, 
and they do so frequently)

Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a strange guy.  No 
argument there.  Now, Barry posted something written by other people.   My take 
was that it was not  focusing on Robin and his personality and his diagnoses or 
problems; it was about the events of that time as seen thru the theme of 
spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions or dissolve. Robin, 
Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY and the TMO.  Personally 
I thought it was interesting to get an objective view of those years in the 
TMO. There were some details about Robin's activities that I did not know 
about, and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it had changed for 
the worse.  It was a rather clear summary from one point of view.   I hardly 
consider that "shitting all over Robin."

> > >
> > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, 
> > > or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they 
> > > fail to see their own transparency (in other words, 
> > > an idiot).
> > >
> > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> > have
> > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
> > How
> > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > >
> > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> > that
> > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > someone
> > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > something
> > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > phenomenon
> > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
> > or
> > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > about
> > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > during
> > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > >
> > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > cannot
> > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
> > at
> > > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> > \
> > > >
> > obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> > \
> > > >
> > &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> > \
> > > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > > >
> > Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> > \
> > > >
> > M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> > \
> > > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his
reputation on here.
I've gathered that Jim.  But more information about something is better
than less information when you are sorting something out.
And neither am I gloating about something that appears to "go against"
Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as
Robin's most ardent defender)
And nor do I see Barry gloating about it.  But since he has been
vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as
determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not
bring it to the table.
In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other
parties decide to run with it.

>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> > messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human
nature
> > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have
Robin,
> > and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> > objectivity.
> > >
> > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone
so
> > bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> > transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> > >
> > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred
to
> > have
> > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred
Schisms:
> > How
> > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > >
> > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on
the
> > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to
indicate
> > that
> > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > someone
> > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > something
> > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > phenomenon
> > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the
story
> > or
> > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > about
> > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > during
> > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > >
> > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a
Google
> > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and
third)
> > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > cannot
> > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi
starts
> > at
> > > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
\
> > \
> > > >
> >
obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
\
> > \
> > > >
> >
&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
\
> > \
> > > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > > >
> >
Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
\
> > \
> > > >
> >
M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
\
> > \
> > > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Yes, that weak-minded reply to Robin set the stage, that Barry was incapable of 
tracking Robin's thought process, and really had no clue what the man was 
talking about. Then as Barry grew increasingly frustrated with his own lack of 
comprehension, his commentary on Robin grew increasingly negative and distorted.

The same response as a small child might have, when attempting to read a book 
far beyond his capability. Barry is an excellent writer, for the consciousness 
he reflects. The problem is that the consciousness is dim.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature 
> > knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and 
> > then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. 
> > 
> > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on 
> > denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other 
> > words, an idiot).
> > 
> > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> 
> I found that academic tome interesting. As one who experienced turquoiseb on 
> coming on this forum, I re-post below his comments to Robin after Robin came 
> on FFL:
> 
>  "I'm also not the kinda person who is going to assume that
>  what you say about your experiences or your purported
>  state of consciousness -- past or present -- is true, just
>  because you say it. Some people are. Given your reaction --
>  some would say overreaction -- to people not treating your
>  words the way you wanted them to, you might be happier
>  trying your spiel on easier audiences."
> 
>  "I don't give a shit about your experiences decades ago in
>  Fairfield. If you have any interest for me at all, it will
>  be based on who and what you are today, here and now. And
>  it will be based on what you can come up with to say that
>  might have some relationship to my life. Talking about your
>  subjective experiences and expecting people to be as fasc-
>  inated by them as you were (and obviously still are) is
>  just not gonna cut it. I'd rather read people swapping
>  good recipes for lemon meringue pie."
> 
>  "Are we clear? I have nothing against you. I'm not looking
>  to "knock you down." I'm just bored by some of your raps,
>  that's all. They have no relevance to my life. And I some-
>  times get the feeling that you don't CARE whether what you
>  say has any relevance to my life, or anyone else's. You
>  give the impression of someone writing with the expectation
>  that others will find his subjective, inner life fascinating,
>  just because he finds it fascinating."
> 
>  "Some might. Many New Agers or long-term TMers might. I'm
>  neither one of those. I'm just a guy who likes to jackpot
>  ideas around for the fun of it, with other people who like
>  the same thing. What I write on this forum is my OPINION,
>  nothing more. I try my best to never claim that this opinion
>  is either fact, or that anyone else should share it."
> 
>  "You give the impression of someone who is convinced that
>  his subjective view of the world and how it works is more
>  than opinion. Good luck finding people who might agree with
>  you about this. You haven't found one in me."
> 
> That seems pretty straightforward to me.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows 
> that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot 
> out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. 
> 
> Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on 
> denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other 
> words, an idiot).
> 
> Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.

I found that academic tome interesting. As one who experienced turquoiseb on 
coming on this forum, I re-post below his comments to Robin after Robin came on 
FFL:

 "I'm also not the kinda person who is going to assume that
 what you say about your experiences or your purported
 state of consciousness -- past or present -- is true, just
 because you say it. Some people are. Given your reaction --
 some would say overreaction -- to people not treating your
 words the way you wanted them to, you might be happier
 trying your spiel on easier audiences."

 "I don't give a shit about your experiences decades ago in
 Fairfield. If you have any interest for me at all, it will
 be based on who and what you are today, here and now. And
 it will be based on what you can come up with to say that
 might have some relationship to my life. Talking about your
 subjective experiences and expecting people to be as fasc-
 inated by them as you were (and obviously still are) is
 just not gonna cut it. I'd rather read people swapping
 good recipes for lemon meringue pie."

 "Are we clear? I have nothing against you. I'm not looking
 to "knock you down." I'm just bored by some of your raps,
 that's all. They have no relevance to my life. And I some-
 times get the feeling that you don't CARE whether what you
 say has any relevance to my life, or anyone else's. You
 give the impression of someone writing with the expectation
 that others will find his subjective, inner life fascinating,
 just because he finds it fascinating."

 "Some might. Many New Agers or long-term TMers might. I'm
 neither one of those. I'm just a guy who likes to jackpot
 ideas around for the fun of it, with other people who like
 the same thing. What I write on this forum is my OPINION,
 nothing more. I try my best to never claim that this opinion
 is either fact, or that anyone else should share it."

 "You give the impression of someone who is convinced that
 his subjective view of the world and how it works is more
 than opinion. Good luck finding people who might agree with
 you about this. You haven't found one in me."

That seems pretty straightforward to me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Reminds me of a funny joke I heard, which I will modify to fit:

Three generals are standing on the battlefield, hearing the approaching army, 
and preparing for war. We'll call them, Jim, Judy and Barry. Jim calls out 
first, "Bring me my sword and scabbard!", Judy follows, with, "My horse - Bring 
me my horse!", and Barry is last with, "My brown pants! Bring me my brown 
pants!"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> You aren't making sense here, just sobbing into your beer again. I very much 
> doubt you could distinguish whether or not I flung a ball of shit at you, 
> Barry, since you perpetually walk around, covered in it.
> 
> No need to put enlightened in quotes, when speaking about me, either. I 
> already know that you are clueless about it.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> > >
> > > wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of 
> > > shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of 
> > > hands for that.
> > 
> > Now you understand why the person who sent the 
> > link to me in email didn't want to post it them-
> > selves. 
> > 
> > Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't
> > throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh?  :-)
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.
> > > >
> > > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, 
> > > > or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they 
> > > > fail to see their own transparency (in other words, 
> > > > an idiot).
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> > > have
> > > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
> > > How
> > > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> > > that
> > > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > > someone
> > > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > > something
> > > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > > phenomenon
> > > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
> > > or
> > > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > > about
> > > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > > during
> > > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > > cannot
> > > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
> > > at
> > > > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> > > \
> > > > >
> > > obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> > > \
> > > > >
> > > &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> > > \
> > > > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > > > >
> > > Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> > > \
> > > > >
> > > M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> > > \
> > > > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > > > >
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

You aren't making sense here, just sobbing into your beer again. I very much 
doubt you could distinguish whether or not I flung a ball of shit at you, 
Barry, since you perpetually walk around, covered in it.

No need to put enlightened in quotes, when speaking about me, either. I already 
know that you are clueless about it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> >
> > wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of 
> > shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of 
> > hands for that.
> 
> Now you understand why the person who sent the 
> link to me in email didn't want to post it them-
> selves. 
> 
> Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't
> throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh?  :-)
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.
> > >
> > > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, 
> > > or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they 
> > > fail to see their own transparency (in other words, 
> > > an idiot).
> > >
> > > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> > have
> > > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
> > How
> > > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > > >
> > > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> > that
> > > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> > someone
> > > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> > something
> > > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> > phenomenon
> > > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
> > or
> > > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> > about
> > > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> > during
> > > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > > >
> > > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> > cannot
> > > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
> > at
> > > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> > \
> > > >
> > obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> > \
> > > >
> > &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> > \
> > > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > > >
> > Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> > \
> > > >
> > M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> > \
> > > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of 
> shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of 
> hands for that.

Now you understand why the person who sent the 
link to me in email didn't want to post it them-
selves. 

Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't
throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh?  :-)


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student 
> > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all 
> > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some 
> > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity.
> >
> > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, 
> > or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they 
> > fail to see their own transparency (in other words, 
> > an idiot).
> >
> > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> have
> > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
> How
> > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > >
> > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> that
> > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> someone
> > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> something
> > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> phenomenon
> > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
> or
> > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> about
> > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> during
> > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > >
> > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> cannot
> > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
> at
> > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> \
> > >
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> \
> > >
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> \
> > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > >
> Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> \
> > >
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> \
> > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his 
reputation on here.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
> messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature
> knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin,
> and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
> objectivity.
> >
> > Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so
> bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
> transparency (in other words, an idiot).
> >
> > Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
> have
> > > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
> How
> > > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> > >
> > > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
> that
> > > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
> someone
> > > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
> something
> > > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
> phenomenon
> > > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
> or
> > > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
> about
> > > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
> during
> > > his 15 minutes of fame.
> > >
> > > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
> cannot
> > > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
> at
> > > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> \
> > >
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> \
> > >
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> \
> > > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > > >
> Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> \
> > >
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> \
> > > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[seventhray27]

wow!  what a reaction.  is this an extreme example of shooting the
messenger?  don't even need a show of hands for that.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature
knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin,
and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your
objectivity.
>
> Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so
bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own
transparency (in other words, an idiot).
>
> Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
have
> > someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> > supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms:
How
> > Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> >
> > I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> > editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
that
> > they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to
someone
> > with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be
something
> > we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin
phenomenon
> > presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story
or
> > another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here
about
> > how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
during
> > his 15 minutes of fame.
> >
> > The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> > Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> > links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I
cannot
> > duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> > information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts
at
> > the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> >
> >
http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > > > >
> >
> >
http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
\
> >
obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
\
> >
&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
\
> > obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> > > >
Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
\
> >
M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
\
> > Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[seventhray27]

Quite interesting.  I know others will say why even bother with
something over thirty years old, but some of this (beginning on page
289) directly contradicts many of Robin's avowed claims.  Sad really.

Judy always trots out the article of faith that Maharishi secretly
supported Robin.  Sort of blows that up, doesn't it?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to
have
> someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms: How
> Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
>
> I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate
that
> they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone
> with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something
> we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon
> presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story or
> another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about
> how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings
during
> his 15 minutes of fame.
>
> The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot
> duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at
> the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
> > >
>
>
http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
\
>
obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
\
>
&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
\
> obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
> >
Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
\
>
M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
\
> Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[doctordumbass]

Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows 
that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot 
out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. 

Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on 
denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other 
words, an idiot).

Personally, I rate your post, "CI", for Completely Impotent.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have
> someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms: How
> Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> 
> I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that
> they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone
> with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something
> we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon
> presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story or
> another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about
> how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings during
> his 15 minutes of fame.
> 
> The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot
> duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at
> the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
>  >
> 
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
>  Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang

[sparaig]

I read the online excerpts.  A very interesting perspective, though of course, 
as is always the case, it seems limited because reality is too complex to write 
down accurately.

Certainly, I am aware that there was more going on with Deepak Chopra than the 
authors mention, and I suspect the same is true with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and 
Robin Carlson.

L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have
> someone else post it so as not to become a target for the "Robin
> supporters." It is an excerpt from a book called "Sacred Schisms: How
> Religions Divide," edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis.
> 
> I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the
> editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that
> they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone
> with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something
> we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon
> presented without emotion or allegiance to one "side" of the story or
> another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about
> how much Robin continued to "revere" Maharishi and his teachings during
> his 15 minutes of fame.
> 
> The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google
> Reader "Look Inside This Book" is provided at the second (and third)
> links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot
> duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the
> information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at
> the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471
>  >
> 
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8C&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=%22R\
> obin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\
> &hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22R\
> obin%20Carlsen%22&f=false
>  Robin+Carlsen%22&source=bl&ots=T2I4atqqNl&sig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\
> M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=%22\
> Robin%20Carlsen%22&f=false>
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc 
>