Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

# ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Invincible America Department Welcomes You To The Summer Courses In Fairfield We’re excited to welcome all the Sidhas and Governors to Fairfield for the Invincible America Assembly and the summer Governor courses!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

The Invincible America Department Welcomes You To The Summer Courses In Fairfield We’re excited to welcome all the Sidhas and Governors to Fairfield for the Invincible America Assembly and the summer Governor courses! In order to make your dome badge registration quick and easy, don’t forget

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

E-mail Question from the side, Namaste, #..gave me your mail. I was asking about the situation of Amma devotees being allowed in the dome and it was said this issue arose for you. I am pretty much living in India but would like to have the opportunity to do program in the dome. Can you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Surveying, “What would it take..” I often turn to people and ask the question, ‘What would it take to have you come back to meditate in the Domes’? In the grocery store and asking this and listening with another couple of long time active TM movement meditators living in Fairfield,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Answer.. “Fire the University President and stop judging how people sit in meditation.” Question: What would it take to have you come back and meditate with the group? ..Asked of an alumnus of the University who is meditating, retired and living well with means in Fairfield who could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

How could the collective Dome group meditation numbers have been administrated so badly in Fairfield? The Dome, it’s yet a powerful place to meditate. The group meditation in the Dome is still very nice. In truth it is one of the wonders of the world. It is sad note about TM how people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Is incredible really that such a major tenet in TM as the importance of collective meditation was let to get so bad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : World peace research http://www.worldpeacegroup.org/world_peace_research.html World peace research

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

World peace research http://www.worldpeacegroup.org/world_peace_research.html World peace research http://www.worldpeacegroup.org/world_peace_research.html World peace research carried out over the last 35 years is the basis for this world peace project. Science understands that we can get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Asking around how it got so bad for the Dome meditation numbers, someone reflecting was saying: “Meditators once came to Fairfield and we are here for world peace and with no denouncement of other gurus or comment on other people and not burdened by fear, deceit and judgment. If that had

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

This new order of business that came in to the new TM movement was very much about exclusivity and securing trademark and market share in their minds. This is embedded in the group meditation guidelines too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

This business shift over to Old Testament-like judgements about people and vengeful retribution in separating off old TM teachers by a kind of summary business personality in the middle has become something of a huge loss of resource, both human and financial, that could have been handled

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Old TM teachers had a relationship more directly to Maharishi in being cultivated and certified by him and under essential understanding in relationship to use what they learned from him without letting money get in the way of people learning to meditate. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

There was a further mercantile shift in administration of old TM after Maharishi. The complete change over after Maharishi was handled most unfortunately by a strong mind of making old testament like judgments about old teachers and then retributions by some business-minded group consciousness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

NO, I get the point. You're just defending the indefensible. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

You seem determined to miss the point entirely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One doesn't need to take two weeks off to travel cross country to learn the latest information. If a teacher's knowledge wasn't sufficient to teach anymore, then it never was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

One doesn't need to take two weeks off to travel cross country to learn the latest information. If a teacher's knowledge  wasn't sufficient to teach anymore, then it never was sufficient to teach in the first place. What kind of teachers did Maharishi create? The fact is , it was a money maker

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

That's a ridiculous comment. I was just making the point that people need to keep up with developments in their field, and that is all that recertification is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One doesn't need a license to teach TM. So, you want the *state*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

PS Lest you think I am all about knocking the TMO, just to put it in context, they offer the only useful technique for gaining enlightenment, imo. Maharishi was a revolutionary in that way. So, yeah, no follow through, but they are the only place to get started. I have a friend who is a long

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

The thing is Doug, that organizations like the TMO attract those who want to be big shots, though with no other qualifications. After awhile, the management stops meeting peoples' needs and are in it just for themselves. Obviously not a recipe for growth. In addition, TM is a victim of its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Yeah, as soon as it started getting messy I started distancing myself from it. But I did watch from afar From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:02 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You know, the TMO has always operated in a cliquish manner. When you first get initiated ,everything is cool. You belong to a unique group of people *saving the world*. But then you notice various cliques have formed. There are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

You know, the TMO has always operated in a cliquish manner. When you first get initiated ,everything is cool. You belong to a unique group of people *saving the world*. But then you notice various cliques have formed. There are plane ol' meditaters,( the lowest of the low, that nobody wants to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Yes a lot of old TM teachers feel cut this way. I hear this a lot and this is very much related to how people feel about attending the group meditation in the Domes here. Meditators have been separated and excluded in a number of ways that need to be directly acknowledged and remediated for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

My prediction: the Dome numbers will definitely improve in about 500 years. In the meantime, a guest speaker might draw in more people: http://tinyurl.com/gsj77fy http://tinyurl.com/gsj77fy http://tinyurl.com/gsj77fy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

One doesn't need a license to teach TM.So, you want the *state* to regulate the TM movement on how to operate? Bet Maharishi would have taken his knowledge and money and left in a heart beat. Hot under the collar? You can perceive it that way. I just say I washed my hands of their foolishness. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Many professions have a continuing ed. requirement which you have to fulfill iin order to keep your license to practice. I see nothing wrong at all in requiring recertification for teachers, so I'm puzzled about why you are so ho under the collar about it. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

BTW, I like Sri Sri. I don;t make a habit of going to meet saints but saw him a couple of times many years ago. I think he's a very high fellow. I don't see auras as much as I used to but when I saw him, I could see molting gold flowing out of his head down over his shoulders.He was quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Doug, the TM movement keeps shooting it's self in the foot with it's policies. I guess the straw that broke the Camel's back for me was saying I couldn't initiate anyone  again unless I came back to Fairfield at their convenience, paid them a couple of thousand dollars and get re certified. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

How could it have got so bad with the numbers meditating in the Fairfield Dome meditations? That people can't or won't come back to the recall? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to published records, by July 1975 in the USA, just itself

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

According to published records, by July 1975 in the USA, just itself alone, had 5799 TM initiators. Now we can't get much better than a very couple of hundred meditating in the men's Dome together. After 1975 some more TM teachers and then TM governors were trained up in years following.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

How could it have got to be so bad with the numbers in the Fairfield Dome meditations? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 'Collective meditation' was a major major tenet of Maharishi's all along, there quite evidently has been a failure of an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

'Collective meditation' was a major major tenet of Maharishi's all along, there quite evidently has been a failure of an administration of the meditation, a failure that affected people's feelings about coming out for the communal collective meditation. This is going to take a change in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

MMY: "This is what happens in the Golden Domes, a wave of infinity spreads from one end of the Dome to the other end. But the wave is not constrained by the walls. It permeates the whole collective conscious ~the whole field of unmanifest infinity. This is what you are here for. And as the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

The movement’s administrative guidelines for the group meditation should be such that all of the guidelines can be put on to a web page, publicly for anyone to read. If that can’t be done then there is something wrong with the guidelines or the persons holding them. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

The guidelines for the Dome meditation could be much streamlined down to what it essentially takes to administrate a course. It is fair that there be guidelines for the running of any organization, meeting or course. But these go beyond practicality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

I wonder if Maharishi foresaw this happening.  Sure seems like it to me. Even created someone not touched by it. Shri Shri Ravi Shankar. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

The movement’s guidelines as they exist essentially are tools of retribution that for decades have driven a whole movement of meditators away. It will take some large leadership to change that. Their problem now is that this has gone on so long and the hurt enough that people have gone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

A large barrier to world peace here is the administrative guidelines themselves that are employed to interrogate and discipline old TM teachers as a gatekeeping to the group meditation. There is a judgement and retributive edge in there, a vindictiveness held in the guidelines that is of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

A large barrier to world peace here is the administrative guidelines themselves that are employed to interrogate and discipline old TM teachers as a gatekeeping to the group meditation. There is a judgement and retributive edge in there, a vindictiveness held in the guidelines that is of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

At the level of the practitioner it can all feel too much like going in to an interview with a McCarthy committee or the old East German police as someone starts an application for a Dome meditation badge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is funny.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

That is funny. Taping Rick's thesis to the doors? In these times it would be scotch taping a thesis to the glass Dome doors or pinning them on the walls nearby the doors where people read announcements as they come and go in to the Domes. " ..the historicity of the hammer blows of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Someone could nail Rick's old message to the University door.:-) Reformation Day: Did Martin Luther really nail 95 theses on the castle door? http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2014/10/reformation_day_did_martin_lut.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Are the three Drs. at the top of TM 15 years too late? 15 years ago as FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups was born as a sounding board for the larger meditating community it was said then: Rick Archer wrote then on Sept 14, 2001: I’ve love to see a public announcement like the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Maharishi University of Bad Management. It's called shooting one's self in the foot. If people really find that TM works, they might leave the *movement* but stick with TM. Unfortunately, there are those that will judge TM's effectiveness by the results of how the TMO operates. A forest is only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

It is really a large stain on the community how the admin have let it go and alienated so many meditators from the official movement and meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A lot of meditators can’t or won’t go to the Domes now. There is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

We don't need no stinkin' badges!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7txPU6efos |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | $Blazing Saddles We don't need no stinking badges | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

A lot of meditators can’t or won’t go to the Domes now. There is quite a lot of communal hurt here around going to the Domes. A lot of time [years] has flowed under the bridge, over the dam and down stream with all this. The three Drs. at the top of the organization are going to have to get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

The whole community has story of knowing someone who was poorly handled or judged. The interview that starts, “We have some questions we want to ask you?” “..Are you now or have you ever been?” A result is that fear marinates the Domes as possibility of personally being found out and found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Any recourse for changing the guidelines or their enforcement for any of this is obscure at best. Redress happens at a pay level way above all of ours and is hidden there. But pretty clearly all of this rests now with the three Drs., Morris, Hagelin, and Nader. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Good observation on how it can go. Yes, there is a working document like this that is logical and based on specifics now that is being passed around that has recommendations in it. It is based on metrics and it is a comprehensive way of thinking about a series of troubles the University and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Thanks, Ollie. Yours is really a well grounded enlightened response. A problem in the middle of TM is that the guidelines for participation are unknown to most except the people who do the interrogation of applicants and the staff handlers. It has been that way a long time. I have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Is there still the ability to place this back in the realm of logic, where those who are creating an obstruction can be presented with a concrete list of necessary changes? Apologies if I missed it, but has that been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Is there still the ability to place this back in the realm of logic, where those who are creating an obstruction can be presented with a concrete list of necessary changes? Apologies if I missed it, but has that been tried? Assembling a grounded list of changes to existing policies, and then

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

Or you can be self sufficient, mediate twice a day and screw all the TMO politics. *indifference* From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

There’s a lot of judgement of ‘sinning’ in TM going on and there is a lot of personal judgement of people going on in TM. We have some strict Preservationists who judge the practitioners and then we have the practitioners who as a community judge the preservationists. It is judgement to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

We’ve got a terrible Catch-22 in the middle of TM right now with the movement’s TM Dome group meditation participation guidelines. On the one hand Strict preservation originalist religious ideologues within the middle at the top of TM feel that the older meditator community and old TM