On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:28 AM, raunchydog wrote:
More nonsense. Rape is rarely about desire and
usually much more about power.
O.K. Sal, I'll can accept your qualifier power and say desire for
power Happy now?
No, it's still a silly point, raunch.
Stealing: A rapist covets a woman then
On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:57 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Maybe the Biblical God of the Old Testament is pro slavery and pro
rape. I wouldn't know.
But you had no trouble tossing my insult my way for asking
about it. Maybe it's time to clear the rocks out of your
own head?
But IMO the wrathful God
: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:
curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Let's see, a self-proclaimed yogi comes to America, gains a following
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:00 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Isn't it interesting that in the 10 Comms
there's no commandment against rape?
Sal
It's just interesting or do you have an opinion about it? IMO
rape is included in the commandments against coveting, stealing and
murder.
That's just
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Kirk wrote:
---Men get raped by women too,
In your dreams, Kirk. :)
as well as by each other as well as the
others by the others. ---Let's face it 'getting used' is just a
subtle form
of rape. Men 'get used' just as women, so some women think it's open
On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:51 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Isn't it interesting that in the 10 Comms
there's no commandment against rape?
Sal
Or slavery. Holding up the 10 Commandments as some sort of moral
guide is one of my pet peeves. There are actually two versions of
them in the Bible.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:51 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Isn't it interesting that in the 10 Comms
there's no commandment against rape?
Or slavery. Holding up the 10 Commandments as some sort of
moral
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:00 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Isn't it interesting that in the 10 Comms
there's no commandment against rape?
Sal
It's just interesting or do you have an opinion about it? IMO
rape is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
The speaker says, No, the *first* prohibition. It
was in the garden of Eden: 'Thou shalt not partake
of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.' And who
was it who had to *enforce* this prohibition?
The interviewer doesn't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
Maybe the Biblical God of the Old Testament is pro slavery and pro rape. I
wouldn't know.
Just read what is in the book, it isn't a very subtle point and is often
repeated as well as his fondness for mass murders.
But
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
The Christians whom I've banged against think that TM's
pure being is the Devil's Playground -- one is opening
one's self to demonic possession, ya see?
Maybe that
On Mar 16, 2009, at 5:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
The Christians whom I've banged against think that TM's
pure being is the Devil's Playground -- one is opening
one's self
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think once you are discussing the perspective of the 10
commandments you are assuming that. Thou shalt not have other Gods
before thee contains the assumption that this is an option. So I
don't believe that most Christians don't have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
The Buddhists and other more honestly Hindu groups
seem to do an OK job of this disclosure.
I don't think it's comparable, though. The Hindu
groups don't think of themselves as not conflicting
with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think once you are discussing the perspective of the 10
commandments you are assuming that. Thou shalt not have other Gods
before thee contains the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Or the TMSP folks who couldn't stop twitching. Now there's research
I'd like to have seen:
TM-Sidhi Induced Tourrette Syndrome in Young College Students, a
Longitudinal Study of fMRI and PET Imaging Outcomes
Hey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think once you are discussing the perspective of the 10
commandments you are assuming that. Thou shalt not have other Gods
before thee contains the
---Men get raped by women too, as well as by each other as well as the
others by the others. ---Let's face it 'getting used' is just a subtle form
of rape. Men 'get used' just as women, so some women think it's open
season. It's not always fun or nice.
hehe
:)
Isn't it interesting that in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think once you are discussing the perspective of the 10
commandments you are
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Or the TMSP folks who couldn't stop twitching. Now there's research
I'd like to have seen:
TM-Sidhi Induced Tourrette Syndrome in Young College Students, a
Longitudinal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Or the TMSP folks who couldn't stop twitching. Now there's research
I'd like to have seen:
TM-Sidhi Induced Tourrette Syndrome in Young
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
The bubbling bliss TMSP experience is also popular in some
churches, and known as Holy Laughter Anointing.
One of the annoying personality characteristics I see in many heavy religious
groups is the I'm happier than you
Fascinating, really!
- Original Message -
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote
On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:10 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Some like the poet Robert Bly saw through the ploy and called us
out on it.
Do you remember what he said?
I've seen both sides of it. I've definitely seen the smarmy,
condescending, put on smile. But I've also seen actual ecstasy in
On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Kirk wrote:
Fascinating, really!
How much do you wanna bet that the more people who are present, the
more powerful the laughter, divine drunkedness and divine slaying
(passing out), etc.? Some of the people scream or make animal noises.
Sound familiar?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:10 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Some like the poet Robert Bly saw through the ploy and called us
out on it.
Do you remember what he said?
He called us out for not showing him our real human face
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
The Buddhists and other more honestly Hindu groups
seem to do an OK job of this disclosure.
I don't think it's
on. I liked her whether I care
about politics or not.
Anyone watching, Kings?
- Original Message -
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.
On Mar 16, 2009
On Mar 16, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Kirk wrote:
Uh, during the Eighties we cut out all that weird shit from the
Domes. Some didn't stop, the butt bouncing seeming to emanate from
someplace more what is it - brain stemmy?! As you are well aware
the butt bouncing occurs in other Eastern religions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
wrote:
---
Wynne and Vedic City.
;-)
--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote:
From: Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to David Orme-Johnson.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 1:28 PM
#yiv1373678280 .ygrp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
The Buddhists and other more honestly Hindu groups
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
I certainly am not a biblical expert,
Nope. Neither am I.
I read the bible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
It could be because consciousness is just us, flesh and blood, neurons firing
and hormones secreting. And enlightenment is accepting this and being joyful
and at peace with the instant we exist and with the connections we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
None of which you have any need to deal with if all
you want is a simple relaxation technique.
What if that is what you want and then later find out the religious overtones?
That might be disturbing to you and you might
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:32 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
None of which you have any need to deal with if all
you want is a simple relaxation technique.
What if that is what you want and then later find out the religious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
This is precisely why I've commented here before I fully support the
modern trend towards a totally scientific and humanist adbhidharma
(Buddhist metaphysical base behind a meditation technique) based
meditation method, and
curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
Let's see, a self-proclaimed yogi comes to America, gains a following
including Hollywood actors and entertainment business people by offering a
method for inner peace for the East. It's not only comparable the guys
almost all ran the same
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@...
wrote:
curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Let's see, a self-proclaimed yogi comes to America, gains a following
including Hollywood actors and entertainment business people by offering a
method for
curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
I do find Yogananda's miracle saint stories far fetched and a bit naive. He
seems inclined to take claims at face value. His experience of seeing Krishna
waving at him seems very, very silly to me.
I forget what I read from Vivekananda but
its a tiny minority you are talking about. Just a tiny minority of Protestants
and some Wahabists who think they have a conflict to be concerned about.TM has
now or has had considerable success in conservative Catholic(esp.Peru and
virtually all of Central and South America -and Muslim
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:
Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaram gave a brilliant speech
about this kind of thing this Jan 12th.
NOT to get sucked into the infinity minus
1th iteration of this religion argument, IMO
anyone who calls King Tony by that name
would
Judy,
Your comments are excellent and very well constructed. We wish the same could
be said about some people here on this list.
Or rather than weeding them out, one could
understand them differently.
Repent, for example, is the term used in English
translations of the Gospels for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Or rather than weeding them out, one could
understand them differently.
Thanks, that is pretty much my point. In fact in some cases you 'must'
understand
MMY is not the only one with this interpretation though, even dualists like the
Gaudya Vaishnavas believe that the goal is to be without, go beyond the three
gunas. They have a different idea of what that is though.
You can transcend and then abide in Sattwa.There is no contradiction on level
I agree that it is very tiresome to read here or anywhere those who expressions
are guided only what can rhetorically be advantageous to their firmly held
preconceptions. I can only suggest that you listen to that address if you have
the chance and inclination and you might agree and understand
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:
FWIW, I seem to recall that verse has been rather problematic
for many commentators, because Krishna tells Arjuna:
nis-trai-guNyo bhavaarjuna (bhava+arjuna)
that is, not-three-'guNaic' be, Arjuna!
In the next
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote:
There is nothing in doing TM that conflicts with doing any religion as
currently practiced. There is no insult to any intelligence.
There are specific
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives
boo_li...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69
shukra69@ wrote:
There is nothing in doing TM that conflicts with
doing any religion as currently
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:
snip
Even the current Pope gave his blessing while he was
Cardinal Ratzinger, and he is a very much a conservative.
Er, no, he didn't. From 1989:
Vatican Warns About Zen, Yoga
VATICAN CITY (AP) - The Vatican Thursday
shukra69 wrote: There is nothing in doing TM that conflicts with
doing any religion as currently practiced. There is no insult to any
intelligence.
Actually, TM conflicts with TM.
Eat what mother gives you.
But not if she's a non-meditator and is a meat eater. A TM TB mother
would have the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
[...]
I still think the most important thing to bear in mind
is that if, as a religious person, you don't believe in
what another religion teaches, practices of that other
religion that don't involve conscious professions of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
I still think the most important thing to bear in mind
is that if, as a religious person, you don't believe in
what another religion teaches, practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
I still think the most important thing to bear in mind
is that if, as a religious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
I still think the most important thing to bear in mind
is that if, as a religious person, you don't believe in
what another religion teaches, practices of that other
religion that don't involve
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Repent, for example, is the term used in English
translations of the Gospels for the Greek word
metanoia. But going back to the Greek, it turns
out that metanoia can also be understood to mean
transcend (beyond-mind).
So
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
Great topic. I only went back a few posts on this
so I may miss some things. But as far as if it matters
to some religious people that they are using another
form of religious practice, I think that is more the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
Well, not everyone accepts the universal being schtick that is basically a
Hindu
interpretation of the TC state. As I have pointed out before, a strong atheist
might well attain God Consciousness or Unity Consciousness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
If you don't believe in other competing beings, or
don't believe they can be invoked by repeating a
Sanskrit sound, how can you be concerned that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
I agree that these are two different POV's on the mantras which have a
certain amount of validity in context. I think full disclosure of the
mantra's religious source is the right thing. If what you say is
The Christians whom I've banged against think that TM's pure being is the
Devil's Playground -- one is opening one's self to demonic possession, ya see?
Tell them that the goal is thoughtlessness and they run away from such a state,
since it has no stance and that leaves Jesus out in the cold
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Repent, for example, is the term used in English
translations of the Gospels for the Greek word
metanoia. But going back to the Greek, it turns
out
Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian:
Maharishi was asked if transcending was like dying.
Maharishi closes his eyes for almost a minute, then opened them and said, Yes.
Try that on your family members.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@...
On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:02 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Repent, for example, is the term used in English
translations of the Gospels for the Greek word
metanoia. But going back to the Greek, it turns
out that metanoia can also
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally taught; it's a process, not
an instant transformation.
It is instant enough to work at a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
As to your second point, let me go back to my earlier
comment on which the one above was based, responding
to Vaj:
-
I'm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally taught; it's a process, not
an instant transformation.
But not a process of meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
Here's something that would be a huge red flag
to any Christian:
Maharishi was asked if transcending was like dying.
Maharishi closes his eyes for almost a minute, then
opened them and said, Yes.
Try that on your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally taught; it's a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian:
Maharishi was asked if transcending was like dying.
Maharishi closes his eyes for almost a minute, then opened them and said,
Yes.
Try that on your
Judy:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended. And in any case, that isn't
how repentance is generally taught; it's a process, not
an instant transformation.
Curtis:
It is instant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:02 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Repent, for example, is the term used in English
translations of the Gospels for the Greek word
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure we can say with any certainty what the
biblical speakers intended.
Well, it is work in that you have to do something. Even if that something
is sitting and meditating. Time passes and you bring you mind to the mantra.
It still is doing something.
***
TM is called a natural technique because it is conducted by nature -- effort is
not called for.
One of my great uncles stopped TM for this reason, he said it felt like dying
to him, and he didn't like that feeling.Not for any religious dogma.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
Here's something that would be a huge red flag to any Christian:
Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
Non Sequitur City.
Not really. You have to look at the whole package and part of the package is
the puja and the siddhis and everything else that MMY branded as part of his
enlightenment package. Especially given his
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:34 PM, bob_brigante wrote:
Well, it is work in that you have to do something. Even if that
something is sitting and meditating. Time passes and you bring you
mind to the mantra. It still is doing something.
***
TM is called a natural technique because it is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
I certainly am not a biblical expert,
Nope. Neither am I.
I read the bible back in college years ago. So the
current message of accepting Jesus as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
Non Sequitur City.
Not really. You have to look at the whole package
No, you don't, not with regard to the point I was
making, which had to do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Please look up the word perhaps in Mr. Dictionary.
Perhaps you should look up pedantic in Mr. Dictionary.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
If you don't believe in other competing beings, or
don't believe they can be invoked by repeating a
Sanskrit sound, how can you be concerned that this
is what you may be doing when you practice TM?
It
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
Non Sequitur City.
Not really. You have to look at the whole package
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
I still think the most important thing to bear in mind
is that if, as a religious
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Well, not everyone accepts the universal being schtick that is basically
a Hindu
interpretation of the TC state. As I have pointed out before, a
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I am sensing a bit of withholding information for
their own good in your last statement. I believe
that is unethical.
What I'm
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Well, not everyone accepts the universal being schtick that is
basically a
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I still think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:
One of my great uncles stopped TM for this reason, he said it felt like dying
to him, and he didn't like that feeling.Not for any religious dogma.
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Here's
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The confusion arises when the issue isn't fully
understood. I don't think there's any way it can
possibly be explained well enough in an intro
lecture for people to be able to make a fully
informed choice, and they
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