[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: Your Dalai Lama trip is just silly. The Dalai Lama is not trying to create a sea-change in the subtle structure of world consciousness. He is out to meet people and smile a lot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed the accusations made by Barry about anyone challenging him fall into three distinct categories; the challenger is 1)afraid, 2)uptight, and/or 4)angry. On the other hand, Barry can count. Apparently,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I've noticed the accusations made by Barry about anyone challenging him fall into three distinct categories; the challenger is 1)afraid,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-06 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: Your Dalai Lama trip is just silly. The Dalai Lama is not trying to create a sea-change in the subtle structure of world consciousness. He is out to meet people and smile a lot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
off_world_beings wrote: Your Dalai Lama trip is just silly. The Dalai Lama is not trying to create a sea-change in the subtle structure of world consciousness. He is out to meet people and smile a lot and wave the peace sign. Big deal. Try meeting the Pope, see how far you get. In your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote: Well, he's feeling very besieged right now, which freaks him out, so he has to cut his enemies down to size in his own mind. He does that by imagining that they're uptight because whatever he said was so threatening to them, rather than acknowledging to himself that they're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why TM'rs are WRONG about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with OffWorld. Democracy gives the people the chance to get rid of worthless rulers without a civil war. It provides this crucial safety net as a MINIMUM feature. It doesn't stop an enlightened Movement that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-04 Thread tanhlnx
---re: Jim says then go hang out with the Dalai Lama. Thanks, but I'm no longer in need of physical Gurus. I will now use this opportunity (separate topic), to quote the first 3 verses on Hsuan Hsua's commentary on the Great Compassion Mantra of Quan Yin: 1. With a kind, compassionate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Do you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why TM'rs are WRONG about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really think that peons get a chance to see the Dali Lama these days, unless it is a publicity gimmick? Uh...Dalai Lama. The Dali Lama was a surrealistic figure in one of Salvador Dali's paintings, this melted guy

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:17 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about getting to see him. I doubt very much that the Dalai Lama lavishes jewels and expensive clothes and cushy digs on the important people while treating the little people as expendable

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2007, at 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really think that peons get a chance to see the Dali Lama these days, unless it is a publicity gimmick? Uh...Dalai Lama. The Dali Lama was a surrealistic figure in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I'm not talking about getting to see him. I doubt very much that the Dalai Lama lavishes jewels and expensive clothes and cushy digs on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread claudiouk
I agree with OffWorld. Democracy gives the people the chance to get rid of worthless rulers without a civil war. It provides this crucial safety net as a MINIMUM feature. It doesn't stop an enlightened Movement that can provide MAXIMUM benefits to society to NATURALLY win power in order to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread qntmpkt
---Below (Neo-Advaitin baloney that nothing exists). Factually incorect. You are confusing nothing as the null-set with relative existence which in itself has no independent existence. By using the phrase nothing at all, you fail to discriminate between the two classes of nothings. In fact,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Do you really think that peons get a chance to see the Dali Lama these days, unless it is a publicity gimmick? Uh...Dalai Lama. The Dali Lama was a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2007, at 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Do you really think that peons get a chance to see the Dali Lama these days, unless it is a publicity

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:56 PM, sparaig wrote: Really? How many people are asking to see him? A crowd of people (about a hundred or so people), dharma bums, various cardinals and religious dignitaries, etc. And to suggest that he doesn't want cash is silly. He has his uses for cash, just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread matrixmonitor
---Virtually all Gurus grovel for money. However, The Dalai Lama may not secretly store it away like some others. Also, the Dalai Lama makes himself rather accessible - mingling with scientists, reporters; and at least fielding questions from various outsiders. reporters. He appeared on CNN

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:52 PM, qntmpkt wrote: ---Below (Neo-Advaitin baloney that nothing exists). Factually incorect. You are confusing nothing as the null-set with relative existence which in itself has no independent existence. By using the phrase nothing at all, you fail to discriminate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Virtually all Gurus grovel for money. However, The Dalai Lama may not secretly store it away like some others. Also, the Dalai Lama makes himself rather accessible - mingling with scientists, reporters; and

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?) The last time the Dalai Lama was in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Virtually all Gurus grovel for money. However, The Dalai Lama may not secretly store it away like some others. Also, the Dalai Lama makes himself rather accessible - mingling with scientists, reporters; and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:17 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-02 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) Do you really think that peons get a chance to see the Dali Lama these days, unless it is a publicity gimmick? Past a certain size, organizational structure disallows the boss from getting his hands dirty with the peasants. I'm not talking about getting to see him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM'rs are WRONG about democracy (was: Are you with us, or against us?)

2007-03-01 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi seems to denounce democracy. ( Damn Democracy )