[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: Different from our perception, but logically reasonable and plausible. From that, I

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Sure, but isn't the intellect (the working mind, not the abstraction) exactly what inhibits getting to the reference-free state? I don't believe it's

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Sure, but isn't the intellect (the working mind, not the abstraction) exactly what

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: Different from

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Sure, but

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The intellect's function is to discriminate between this and that, to make distinctions, to draw boundaries, which is essential for life in the

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: I'll just say what I say and allow those I say it about to react the way that *they* see fit. I feel no obligation to back up any of my opin- ions (because that is, in fact, what they are), I am perhaps hopelessly

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: There's a difference between discussing ideas for the fun of springboarding off of another's thoughts and arguing about those ideas. Curtis understands the difference...discussions with him are almost always really

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Theorem: Anyone can say anything about you that they want; that is out of your control. What is *not* out of your control is how to react, or whether to at all. It is my con- tention that those who react defensively or

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread Duveyoung
Barry the enlightened shows how he can have a conversation that passes Grate Swan's test of is it a blog or a dialogue? We should be so honored to be in Barry's ego-free presence. Below we see that Barry amazingly holds back ego so much that, he is able to only mention himself 36 TIMES. ---

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I'm avoiding the argument, and seeing whether you really have any interest in discussing the idea. I don't think you do. I told you earlier what I think of your style, with the rule I added to your silly,

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Please notice that in this rant you said *nothing* about the idea contained in my post -- that a tendency to defend oneself indicates a great deal of self in the person who does it, and also indicates a lack of Self.

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I still think this is a viable theory. I think it accurately describes what's going on when someone feels compelled *on a regular basis* to defend

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread Duveyoung
Question: What doesn't Barry understand about Frost's heart? Discuss amongst yourselves. A Time to Talk by: Robert Frost When a friend calls to me from the road And slows his horse to a meaning walk, I don't stand still and look around On all the hills I haven't hoed, And shout from where I

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Question: What doesn't Barry understand about Frost's heart? Discuss amongst yourselves. A Time to Talk by: Robert Frost When a friend calls to me from the road And slows his horse to a meaning walk, I don't

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: There's a difference between discussing ideas for the fun of springboarding off of another's thoughts and arguing about those ideas. Curtis understands

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Please notice that in this rant you said *nothing* about the idea contained in my post -- that a tendency to defend oneself indicates a great deal

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: There's a difference between discussing ideas for the fun of springboarding off

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: There's

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: There's

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread Duveyoung
Grate Swan, I do both here. I blog, and also, I comment with the hope that I can get clearer about where I stand and where others stand when our poems are distilled for concepts. But the main reason I read the posts here -- virtually all of them -- is to be daily astounded by the utter

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Grate Swan, I do both here. I blog, and also, I comment with the hope that I can get clearer about where I stand and where others stand when our poems are distilled for concepts. But the main reason I read the posts

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Fifty people can have fifty POVs. All of them equal, none of them more right or better than any other. Or do you think that perhaps yours

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and Curtis have interesting discussions defending their POV. A disagreement with a POV is a debate, not an ego

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and Curtis have interesting discussions

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: snip] Different from our perception, but logically reasonable and plausible. From that,

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: snip] Different

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: snip] Different

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread TurquoiseB
Theorem: Anyone can say anything about you that they want; that is out of your control. What is *not* out of your control is how to react, or whether to at all. It is my con- tention that those who react defensively or angrily to protect their self image have the most self to protect, and the

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Theorem: Anyone can say anything about you that they want; that is out of your control. What is *not* out of your control is how to react, or whether to at all. It is my con- tention that those who react defensively or

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread enlightened_dawn11
one of the Turqy's silliest posts ever- what's the point? definitely a masturbatory tirade of epic proportions... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Theorem: Anyone can say anything about

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread grate . swan
I'll just say what I say and allow those I say it about to react the way that *they* see fit. I feel no obligation to back up any of my opin- ions (because that is, in fact, what they are), I am perhaps hopelessly naive, but I had assumed that posts are primarily about sharing and

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: I'll just say what I say and allow those I say it about to react the way that *they* see fit. I feel no obligation to back up any of my opin- ions (because that is, in fact, what they are), I am perhaps

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: I'll just say what I say and allow those I say it about to react the way that *they* see fit. I feel no obligation to back up any of my opin-