Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
See John 10. The Good Shepherd. The sheep know the voice of their shepherd and come when called. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, there is a lot of stuff hidden in the Bible that only comes to light with pure consciousness, and if the expression, 'knowledge is structured in consciousness', holds, that carries a lot of potential for disagreement with it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ollie, You'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ollie, You're right in saying. Catholics believe that the bread and wine becomes transformed into the body and blood of Jesus. But my point in this discussion is that Jesus was telling the disciples that the bread and wine are his body and blood because as Being Himself, Jesus is in everyth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually, the key distinction between the Episcopalian Church and the Catholic Church is the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation, whereby the offering of the host and wine by the priest during Holy Communion is miraculously transformed into the actual blood and body of Christ within the one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread garyth...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi all, First time responder here. This is an area I have been drawn to and fascinated by my whole adult life. So I had to say something. Sorry in advance if I offend anyone. That is not my intention. Any opinion on the Catholic Eucharist is of course worthy. But saying "If one were to truly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "[The Eucharist] is not a symbol, it is the real thing - it is the literal flesh and blood of Christ transformed. ": Indeed, not a symbol - a concept or thought. But the literal flesh and blood are phenomenal through and through. (As ar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-04 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The bhakti side of spiritual development is often overlooked - gets dry, old, copied down and lost. Yes, the process of continual surrender to the transcendent, the higher states of consciousness, can be focused on ourselves and others through unconditional love, sacrifice, and devotion which kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re "[The Eucharist] is not a symbol, it is the real thing - it is the literal flesh and blood of Christ transformed. ": Indeed, not a symbol - a concept or thought. But the literal flesh and blood are phenomenal through and through. (As are literal pines and their scent.) And all phen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I'm not going to be drawn into definitions of Self, as such, as everyone is right in the truth they have had revealed. I personally don't follow a tradition but I do have a way of enlivening my spiritual instinct, if you will. Pine scent, lovel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re "Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail": Isn't that why Christians have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re "Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail": Isn't that why Christians have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Upfronter, (lAnne?) your essay on Jesus and the Self is nothing short of astoundingly eloquenttruly inspirational and it literally made the hairs on my body stand on end! Some brief comments: The term "Self" has been popularized (among others) by Ramana Maharshi and may lead to some con

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne, I like the prose you wrote here. It sounded like the writing of Herman Hesse in his book, Siddharta. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : …or the availability to adore the One Supreme Being through His Spiritual Christ,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm not going to be drawn into definitions of Self, as such, as everyone is right in the truth they have had revealed. I personally don't follow a tradition but I do have a way of enlivening my spiritual instinct, if you will. Pine scent, lovely! I think I know what you mean. It seems a little a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : …or the availability to adore the One Supreme Being through His Spiritual Christ, no other Way except in name and comprehension I'm not sure I adore anybody - Christ, Spiritual Christ, One Supreme Being or whatever else anyone wants to call

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
...adoration becomes loving adoration loving adoration becomes awe and loving adoration awe and loving adoration becomes awe, reverence and loving adoration which is deep and abiding love for the Supreme

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-03 Thread upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
…or the availability to adore the One Supreme Being through His Spiritual Christ, no other Way except in name and comprehension Taking a first-century (named in his honour!) rabbi as a symbol of The One Self is fine - as long as you realise that he is only one symbol among many others. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-02 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Taking a first-century (named in his honour!) rabbi as a symbol of The One Self is fine - as long as you realise that he is only one symbol among many others. The problem that Christianity faces is its designation of Jesus as the one-and-only symbol. It's tricky! As there is only a unique

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-02 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. Again see the story of Joseph. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?   Fuxero, My answer is simply that I was born

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-02 Thread upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
I have come to see an overall picture a bit like this. There are ordained and necessary stepping stones across the dangerous swell to the bank on the other side, all made with slightly different patterns in order to bring the eager wayfarer and dedicated pilgrim to the safety of dry land. They a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-01 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fuxero, My answer is simply that I was born into this tradition. At this point, I don't see why I should reject it. Also, Jesus was predicted by the prophets in the Old Testament to incarnate as the Messiah. The Jews assumed that the messiah would be a political leader. But he came ins

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-01 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?   Thx for the excellent discussion, but I believe a point is lacking.  Let's assume that Jesus has presented a body of knowledge and techniques pointing to the Unified Field (Ground of Being) and It's Realization.  Fine, but here'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-01 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thx for the excellent discussion, but I believe a point is lacking. Let's assume that Jesus has presented a body of knowledge and techniques pointing to the Unified Field (Ground of Being) and It's Realization. Fine, but here's a question I posed to Bishop Spong (a deceased Christian Gnostic).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-01 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
S3, I'm glad you understand what I was saying. I believe there are some priests in the Catholic Church who think the same way. But they're afraid to rock the boat and be labelled a heretic. It will take hundreds of years for the mainline Christian churches to accept it because they think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?

2016-04-01 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's my take also. Though I'd expect very few church-goers would understand what we're on about. Alan Watts wrote clearly defending this same interpretation. The more correct post header should be: Jesus Christ said "I am the Unified Field" - the "I" is all of us. ---In FairfieldLi