Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
Yes, I think the name of the audio tape is Overcoming Problems. I got to hear
it both during the MA in SCI and during the MS in Psychology. We were
exploring the possibility of Vedic counseling and Maharishi had explained that
the Gita could be considered the basis of such.
What is interesting is that in the Gita Maharishi says there are SIXTEEN
fundamental problems of life. How I reconciled this with the 15 on the audio
tape was to infer that pragyaparadh is the 16th and overarching problem. But
then there are 18 chapters of the Gita! How to jive that with 16 problems?
Can pragyaparadh be 3 things? I sat with that one for many weeks and finally
stumbled on Chap 4, vs 35 wherein Maharishi explains that delusion in the state
of tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in the state of rajas is
overcome by increasing sattwa; but delusion in the state of sattwa, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending. Voila! 3 forms of
delusion or pragyaparadh, 18 fundamental problems of life.
Thank you again for your posts. Very wonderful knowledge (-:
From: luvgemlight m8r-mp8...@mailinator.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
luvgenlight there's a wonderful audio tape Maharishi made in Jan 1971 in
which he explains that the 15 fundamental problems of life listed in chapter
2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the 3 gunas with the 5
mahabhutas. He actually begins to list them on the tape: sattvic problem
in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. So
maybe:
a is akasha = Ishwara/being
The stage upon which all of the following transpires, and not transpires!
g is prana
The gap between any two breaths -- between the exhalation of the prior and the
inhalation of its successor -- contains the smriti/memory of all breaths.
Without smriti/memory, there would be no support (Dharma) of Almighty Nature
(akasha = Ishwara/being), and not a single breath would arise.
n is tejas
The fire of tejas/samadhi burns away (Shiva/tamas) anything which is non-Self.
i is jala
The water of jala/life develops the ash residue of samadhi into greater
expressions of wholeness (Brahma/sattwa).
m is pritivi
The earth of pritivi hides the development of life in a cocoonal/womb of
immortality (Vishnu/rajas). {From Bliss, all of this comes, and to Bliss all
this goes.}
I think we've got something developing here
First of all, this implies that the three gunas are the source of all fifteen
problems since it's their interaction with the wholeness of life (as Brahman):
being(a), the gap(g), and the whole field of the relative represented by the
gunas themselves(n-i-m) which spawns all fifteen problems. So, all fifteen
problems relate individually to how well does: sattwa (herein represented by
i) relate to being (as represented herein by a = akasha), and how well does
rajas (represented by m) relate to being (akasha), etc. I guess the three
gunas are used as the standard for sourcing all problems in life since the gap,
and the Absolute, can't source any problem whatsoever since they are
non-differentiated within themselves (in other words, the gap and Absolute are
non-relative). Otherwise, we'd have ten more combinations between the gap and
the Absolute interacting with all five mahabhutas. So, it's up to the three
gunas to initiate problems. Hey It's a
tough job and somebody has to do it? ;-)
But how to jive with:
Secondly,
see commentary above on each of the five mahabhutas...
a = Ishwara/purusha
g = Dharma/smriti
n = Shiva/tamas
i = Brahma/sattwa
m = Vishnu/rajas
Anyway, thank you so much for all this but especially about the relationship
between dharma, smriti and kama. I have a friend in Vancouver who will also
enjoy reading this.
From: luvgemlight
Thank the god of fire that re-enforcements of more revolutionary
millenarians have finally spoke up up on this list. Welcome LuvGemLight to
the fray. You got through to us. You are on the front line here
out-numbered with only a few of us by your side. There's quite a few
non-meditators and counter-revolutionaries lie-ing in wait to bush-whack
meditators who come out here. It's a terrible place to stand up.I am
glad you are up here with us. It often takes fire to fight fire. And
water. What did Maharishi say about water in relation to Agni fire? You
know, as a cannoneer to fire a cannon you have to ram swab the barrel with
a wet mop before you load the charge or the powder charge might spark off
and go BOOM as you load it. In a fight many a cannoneer lost their fingers
and hands ramming loads if they ran out of water
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
luvgenlight there's a wonderful audio tape Maharishi made in Jan 1971 in
which he explains that the 15 fundamental problems of life listed in chapter
2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the 3 gunas with the 5
mahabhutas. He actually begins to list them on the tape: sattvic problem
in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. So
maybe:
a is akasha = Ishwara/being
The stage upon which all of the following transpires, and not transpires!
g is prana
The gap between any two breaths -- between the exhalation of the prior and
the inhalation of its successor -- contains the smriti/memory of all breaths.
Without smriti/memory, there would be no support (Dharma) of Almighty Nature
(akasha = Ishwara/being), and not a single breath would arise.
n is tejas
The fire of tejas/samadhi burns away (Shiva/tamas) anything which is
non-Self.
i is jala
The water of jala/life develops the ash residue of samadhi into greater
expressions of wholeness (Brahma/sattwa).
m is pritivi
The earth of pritivi hides the development of life in a cocoonal/womb of
immortality (Vishnu/rajas). {From Bliss, all of this comes, and to Bliss all
this goes.}
I think we've got something developing here
First of all, this implies that the three gunas are the source of all fifteen
problems since it's their interaction with the wholeness of life (as Brahman):
being(a), the gap(g), and the whole field of the relative represented by the
gunas themselves(n-i-m) which spawns all fifteen problems. So, all fifteen
problems relate individually to how well does: sattwa (herein represented by
i) relate to being (as represented herein by a = akasha), and how well does
rajas (represented by m) relate to being (akasha), etc. I guess the three
gunas are used as the standard for sourcing all problems in life since the gap,
and the Absolute, can't source any problem whatsoever since they are
non-differentiated within themselves (in other words, the gap and Absolute are
non-relative). Otherwise, we'd have ten more combinations between the gap and
the Absolute interacting with all five mahabhutas. So, it's up to the three
gunas to initiate problems. Hey It's a tough job and somebody has to do it?
;-)
But how to jive with:
Secondly,
see commentary above on each of the five mahabhutas...
a = Ishwara/purusha
g = Dharma/smriti
n = Shiva/tamas
i = Brahma/sattwa
m = Vishnu/rajas
Anyway, thank you so much for all this but especially about the relationship
between dharma, smriti and kama. I have a friend in Vancouver who will also
enjoy reading this.
From: luvgemlight
Thank the god of fire that re-enforcements of more revolutionary
millenarians have finally spoke up up on this list. Welcome LuvGemLight to
the fray. You got through to us. You are on the front line here
out-numbered with only a few of us by your side. There's quite a few
non-meditators and counter-revolutionaries lie-ing in wait to bush-whack
meditators who come out here. It's a terrible place to stand up.I am
glad you are up here with us. It often takes fire to fight fire. And
water. What did Maharishi say about water in relation to Agni fire? You
know, as a cannoneer to fire a cannon you have to ram swab the barrel with
a wet mop before you load the charge or the powder charge might spark off
and go BOOM as you load it. In a fight many a cannoneer lost their fingers
and hands ramming loads if they ran out of water in their swab bucket and
came to be without swab water on the battlefield of llife. Water, does
water have something
elemental to do with Gem Light Therapy? The role of water in chakras and
Gem Therapy? Did Maharishi ever talk about this? You seem to be deep with
this. I appreciate that.
-Buck
I don't know. But if I were to track down the symbolism, I'd start with close
analogs to the water symbol, such as ocean of bliss. Maharishi definitely
has something to say on bliss...
http://www.detlef108.de/Maharishi-Sat-Chit-Ananda-mp3.m3u
shortcut...
http://www.tinyurl.com/mmy-ananda
Edgar Cayce spoke of only four elements being required and everything else
the body needed was made from these four irregardless of anyone else's advice
to the contrary. These four elements are: water, salt, soda, and iodine.
Attempting to apply the agnim template could result in...
a = water
g = salt
n = soda
i = iodine
...which might seem to work, but leaves out the 'm' phoneme. Let's take a
different approach...
Ishwara is the personal supreme almighty diety whose impersonal essential
nature is purusha, or being.
Dharma is an actual diety second only to Ishwara. Dharma's impersonal
essential nature could be described as 'kama' = desire, but a more factual
description might be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
Oops. I miscalculated my prior post a little, so now I try to correct it... The fifteen problems of life, which you refer to (I haven't recently read them, but I will assume their existence for the point of discussion's sake on their own merit), all partake of the relative values of the three gunas. I don't even have to refer to the imperfection, or proneness to error, which the five mahabhutas might tend toward, since the influence of the three gunas' tendency towards error is powerful enough to consider on their own lack of merit. Namely, the gunas are merely concerned with their narrowness of vision with regard to time. They don't bother looking at the whole. Their only concern is with the phases of time, namely: starting something -- as is the case with sattwa: in all purity something is begun; and rajas, mobilizing beginnings to keep on going; and tamas, with putting a stop to something. If sattwa doesn't like how tamas or rajas is conducting their business, then sattwa will always find fault with either of the two other gunas saying to itself: How fruitless are their endeavors; I can't wait on the other two any more; let's start something already and not bother with maintaining or ending anything any more. Likewise, rajas will find fault by assuming that starting something is not good enough; it has to be maintained to be worthwhile. And tamas will also find fault by becoming bored with the whole mess and want to put an end to it all! But the Absolute is the sole undifferentiated state of being absolute, so no quality of fault, or non-fault, can be ascribed to it. Thus, it can not combine with any of the five mahabhutas to contribute five more types of problems to the whole mix. Neither can the gap contribute any problems by combining with the five mahabhutas since it is also blameless. It's sole endeavor is to act as a transition for both the Absolute and the relative hoping that the relative will transcend and get to the Absolute supreme status of life, and also the gap will endeavor to bring the Absolute out of itself to fulfill the aspirations of the relative with the glory of the Absolute's Surpreme Nature. So, only the three phases of the wholeness of life, the three partialities of the cycles of living, the three gunas, can contribute to there being any problems in life, for life is essentially wholeness lived through cycles of partiality which start their relative existence, maintain it for a while, and then cease to exist as a relative experience. Any presumption which places the three gunas, or anything else which they could combine with, as anything more than a mere partial degree of importance with respect to the wholeness of completion found only in the unmanifest, is a false presumption leading toward suffering, ignorance and bondage. And anything which they could combine with (such as the five mahabhutas) is merely to make life more complicatedly interesting and mysterious -- but not necessarily any better at fulfilling our desires; just varying them here and there. So, here's my correction... The gap IS a field of differentiation, unlike the Absolute next door. The gap has the capacity of distinguishing between the flow of life in the direction of either: transcending or manifesting. But the gap can't be faulted (unlike the three gunas), because it always seeks an interaction between the Absolute and the relative in some direction or the other. Thus, as far as the gap is concerned, wholeness must never be left out of experience, whether that experience leads to wholeness or merely more experience of a relative type. Leaving wholeness out of any experience would be fatal to Dharma and we would lose our memory/smriti -- the fulfillment of our desire through lack of wholeness (Dharma often being defined within the TM movement as support of the Almighty power of Nature). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: luvgenlight there's a wonderful audio tape Maharishi made in Jan 1971 in which he explains that the 15 fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the 3 gunas with the 5 mahabhutas. He actually begins to list them on the tape: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. So maybe: a is akasha = Ishwara/being The stage upon which all of the following transpires, and not transpires! g is prana The gap between any two breaths -- between the exhalation of the prior and the inhalation of its successor -- contains the smriti/memory of all breaths. Without smriti/memory, there would be no support (Dharma) of Almighty Nature (akasha = Ishwara/being), and not a single breath would arise. n is tejas The fire of tejas/samadhi burns away (Shiva/tamas) anything which is non-Self. i is jala The water of jala/life
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments
here in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either
twice or four times each month since my first treatment last march in
2012, I can safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality
for improving consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are
laser penlights -- thus, the light passing through these gems is very
coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a
ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini awakening later on
after that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice
that I'm transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer
this from the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally
transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my
Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so
that care and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action
is a very good idea since they can materialize.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
Well, the compound word is
ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing
riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches)
RV. AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
According to Macdonell's comment:
...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
agnim iiLe purohitaM
yajñasya devam RtvijaM
hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.
If the cornucopia of wealth comes from agni, then possibly agni is more
than merely 'fire'? Consider this interpretation
From the 1974 MIU Course Catalog, Maharishi explains 'agnim' phoneme by
phoneme as it accumulates meaning sequentially from the first sound...
a = fullness.
g = puts a stop to fullness.
n = negates the stop of fullness.
i = progresses this negation of fullness' stop.
m = maintains this whole thing, on and on and on, like a continuous hum.
Now, let's apply this sequential rendering as a five-step template of sorts
straight from the TM technique...
a = least action is achieved: the field of the transcendent (even the
sage, Milarepa, discerns the fullness of the transcendental field as the
field of least action).
g = through alternation between: alternating phases are preceded by a
stop to the previous phase before starting the next phase.
n = rest (the negation of the relative's natural state of continuous
activity)
i = and activity (activity always breeds progressive growth)
m = maintained as a daily/etc routine (how else can anything be
maintained, but as a sequence of cyclic phases?)
Sum total -
Least action is achieved through alternation between rest and activity
maintained in regular cycles.
So, TM (yogic union with agni) achieves wealth (samadhi/agni) through agni
(the five-step template described above). Kind of like saying: the course
of life is from here to here through here as well.
But of course, we already know that Maharishi uses the term 'TM' since
westerners have a strange predilection for believing that yoga means merely
postures. So, he couldn't use the more obvious term of 'yoga'. Yet,
yogasta kuru karmani = established in Being, perform action, one of the
two mottos of this movement (the other is, nistraigunyo bhavarjun =
transcend) really means established in yoga, doesn't it? Kind of gives away
what TM is all about.yoga.
gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of
God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only
to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some
sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst,
emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light
is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper
articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even
though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people
are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness,
healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to
date. The light is supposed to act on the light body
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
luvgenlight there's a wonderful audio tape Maharishi made in Jan 1971 in which he explains that the 15 fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the 3 gunas with the 5 mahabhutas. He actually begins to list them on the tape: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. So maybe: a is akasha g is prana n is tejas i is jala m is pritivi But how to jive with: a = Ishwara/purusha g = Dharma/smriti n = Shiva/tamas i = Brahma/sattwa m = Vishnu/rajas Anyway, thank you so much for all this but especially about the relationship between dharma, smriti and kama. I have a friend in Vancouver who will also enjoy reading this. From: luvgemlight m8r-mp8...@mailinator.com Thank the god of fire that re-enforcements of more revolutionary millenarians have finally spoke up up on this list. Welcome LuvGemLight to the fray. You got through to us. You are on the front line here out-numbered with only a few of us by your side. There's quite a few non-meditators and counter-revolutionaries lie-ing in wait to bush-whack meditators who come out here. It's a terrible place to stand up.I am glad you are up here with us. It often takes fire to fight fire. And water. What did Maharishi say about water in relation to Agni fire? You know, as a cannoneer to fire a cannon you have to ram swab the barrel with a wet mop before you load the charge or the powder charge might spark off and go BOOM as you load it. In a fight many a cannoneer lost their fingers and hands ramming loads if they ran out of water in their swab bucket and came to be without swab water on the battlefield of llife. Water, does water have something elemental to do with Gem Light Therapy? The role of water in chakras and Gem Therapy? Did Maharishi ever talk about this? You seem to be deep with this. I appreciate that. -Buck I don't know. But if I were to track down the symbolism, I'd start with close analogs to the water symbol, such as ocean of bliss. Maharishi definitely has something to say on bliss... http://www.detlef108.de/Maharishi-Sat-Chit-Ananda-mp3.m3u shortcut... http://www.tinyurl.com/mmy-ananda Edgar Cayce spoke of only four elements being required and everything else the body needed was made from these four irregardless of anyone else's advice to the contrary. These four elements are: water, salt, soda, and iodine. Attempting to apply the agnim template could result in... a = water g = salt n = soda i = iodine ...which might seem to work, but leaves out the 'm' phoneme. Let's take a different approach... Ishwara is the personal supreme almighty diety whose impersonal essential nature is purusha, or being. Dharma is an actual diety second only to Ishwara. Dharma's impersonal essential nature could be described as 'kama' = desire, but a more factual description might be 'smriti' = memory, which Nada Ram described recently -- during Maharishi's birthday 2013 celebration -- as having a secondary meaning besides memory: fulfillment of desire. So, Dharma is Smriti; regaining my memory (an Arjuna quote of the last line of the Bhagavad Gita) is also regaining my Dharma (my support of the power of Almighty Nature; or, how else shall I fulfill my desire?). Well, Dharma is positioned, not within the relative, but within the gap between the Almighty and the relative. This is what makes Dharma second only to the Almighty and superior to everything else within the relative, such as all the other dieties, including, but not limited to... Brahma, whose impersonal essential nature is: satwa Vishnu, whose impersonal essential nature is: rajas Shiva, whose impersonal essential nature is: tamas Ganesh, whose impersonal essential nature is: vata Mother Divine, whose impersonal essential nature is: kapha Surya, whose impersonal essential nature is: pitta if I've got my six primary dieties of the relative field right (along with their six impersonal essential natures)? So, Dharma is superior to the three gunas and the three doshas which lie between the three gunas along with their respective personal dieties (Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, plus Ganesh, Mother Divine, and Surya) and Smriti is superior to Prakriti (the field of the three gunas). Well, this gap wherein lies Dharma and Smriti tugs in both directions: it tugs on the relative to transcend the relative and go to Being, and it tugs on the Absolute to come out of itself and manifest itself into the relative. A better template to include the gap (better than the Edgar Cayce quote from above) might be... a = Ishwara/purusha g = Dharma/smriti n = Shiva/tamas i = Brahma/sattwa m = Vishnu/rajas
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in
southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four
times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely
say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving
consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights
-- thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike
ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one
time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after that particular
treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm transcending during
the treatments. I usually have to infer this from the fact that my
experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I don't realize that
this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight treatments are very
empowering to the mind, so that care and consideration given to one's
thoughts, speech, and action is a very good idea since they can materialize.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
Well, the compound word is
ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing
riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV.
AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
According to Macdonell's comment:
...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
agnim iiLe purohitaM
yajñasya devam RtvijaM
hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.
If the cornucopia of wealth comes from agni, then possibly agni is more than
merely 'fire'? Consider this interpretation
From the 1974 MIU Course Catalog, Maharishi explains 'agnim' phoneme by
phoneme as it accumulates meaning sequentially from the first sound...
a = fullness.
g = puts a stop to fullness.
n = negates the stop of fullness.
i = progresses this negation of fullness' stop.
m = maintains this whole thing, on and on and on, like a continuous hum.
Now, let's apply this sequential rendering as a five-step template of sorts
straight from the TM technique...
a = least action is achieved: the field of the transcendent (even the sage,
Milarepa, discerns the fullness of the transcendental field as the field of
least action).
g = through alternation between: alternating phases are preceded by a stop to
the previous phase before starting the next phase.
n = rest (the negation of the relative's natural state of continuous activity)
i = and activity (activity always breeds progressive growth)
m = maintained as a daily/etc routine (how else can anything be maintained,
but as a sequence of cyclic phases?)
Sum total -
Least action is achieved through alternation between rest and activity
maintained in regular cycles.
So, TM (yogic union with agni) achieves wealth (samadhi/agni) through agni (the
five-step template described above). Kind of like saying: the course of life is
from here to here through here as well.
But of course, we already know that Maharishi uses the term 'TM' since
westerners have a strange predilection for believing that yoga means merely
postures. So, he couldn't use the more obvious term of 'yoga'. Yet, yogasta
kuru karmani = established in Being, perform action, one of the two mottos
of this movement (the other is, nistraigunyo bhavarjun = transcend) really
means established in yoga, doesn't it? Kind of gives away what TM is all
about.yoga.
gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of
God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only
to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some
sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst,
emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light
is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper
articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even
though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people
are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness,
healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to
date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the
recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's
basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more
than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill
the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80%
of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here
in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or
four times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can
safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving
consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights
-- thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike
ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one
time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after that particular
treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm transcending
during the treatments. I usually have to infer this from the fact that my
experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I don't realize
that this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight treatments are
very empowering to the mind, so that care and consideration given to
one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good idea since they can
materialize.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
Well, the compound word is
ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing
riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches)
RV. AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
According to Macdonell's comment:
...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
agnim iiLe purohitaM
yajñasya devam RtvijaM
hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.
If the cornucopia of wealth comes from agni, then possibly agni is more than
merely 'fire'? Consider this interpretation
From the 1974 MIU Course Catalog, Maharishi explains 'agnim' phoneme by
phoneme as it accumulates meaning sequentially from the first sound...
a = fullness.
g = puts a stop to fullness.
n = negates the stop of fullness.
i = progresses this negation of fullness' stop.
m = maintains this whole thing, on and on and on, like a continuous hum.
Now, let's apply this sequential rendering as a five-step template of sorts
straight from the TM technique...
a = least action is achieved: the field of the transcendent (even the sage,
Milarepa, discerns the fullness of the transcendental field as the field of
least action).
g = through alternation between: alternating phases are preceded by a stop
to the previous phase before starting the next phase.
n = rest (the negation of the relative's natural state of continuous
activity)
i = and activity (activity always breeds progressive growth)
m = maintained as a daily/etc routine (how else can anything be maintained,
but as a sequence of cyclic phases?)
Sum total -
Least action is achieved through alternation between rest and activity
maintained in regular cycles.
So, TM (yogic union with agni) achieves wealth (samadhi/agni) through agni
(the five-step template described above). Kind of like saying: the course of
life is from here to here through here as well.
But of course, we already know that Maharishi uses the term 'TM' since
westerners have a strange predilection for believing that yoga means merely
postures. So, he couldn't use the more obvious term of 'yoga'. Yet, yogasta
kuru karmani = established in Being, perform action, one of the two mottos
of this movement (the other is, nistraigunyo bhavarjun = transcend) really
means established in yoga, doesn't it? Kind of gives away what TM is all
about.yoga.
gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of
God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only
to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some
sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst,
emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light
is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper
articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even
though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people
are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness,
healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to
date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the
recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's
basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more
than just
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
Thanks luvgemlight, this is wonderful. I've also heard Maharishi call ni the
continuation of negation. Which in the circumstances is kind of a paradox.
Which I love.
From: luvgemlight m8r-mp8...@mailinator.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in
southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four
times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely
say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving
consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights
-- thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike
ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one
time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after that particular
treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm transcending during
the treatments. I usually have to infer this from the fact that my
experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I don't realize that
this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight treatments are very
empowering to the mind, so that care and consideration given to one's
thoughts, speech, and action
is a very good idea since they can materialize.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
Well, the compound word is
ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing
riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV.
AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
According to Macdonell's comment:
...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
agnim iiLe purohitaM
yajñasya devam RtvijaM
hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.
If the cornucopia of wealth comes from agni, then possibly agni is more than
merely 'fire'? Consider this interpretation
From the 1974 MIU Course Catalog, Maharishi explains 'agnim' phoneme by
phoneme as it accumulates meaning sequentially from the first sound...
a = fullness.
g = puts a stop to fullness.
n = negates the stop of fullness.
i = progresses this negation of fullness' stop.
m = maintains this whole thing, on and on and on, like a continuous hum.
Now, let's apply this sequential rendering as a five-step template of sorts
straight from the TM technique...
a = least action is achieved: the field of the transcendent (even the sage,
Milarepa, discerns the fullness of the transcendental field as the field of
least action).
g = through alternation between: alternating phases are preceded by a stop to
the previous phase before starting the next phase.
n = rest (the negation of the relative's natural state of continuous activity)
i = and activity (activity always breeds progressive growth)
m = maintained as a daily/etc routine (how else can anything be maintained,
but as a sequence of cyclic phases?)
Sum total -
Least action is achieved through alternation between rest and activity
maintained in regular cycles.
So, TM (yogic union with agni) achieves wealth (samadhi/agni) through agni (the
five-step template described above). Kind of like saying: the course of life is
from here to here through here as well.
But of course, we already know that Maharishi uses the term 'TM' since
westerners have a strange predilection for believing that yoga means merely
postures. So, he couldn't use the more obvious term of 'yoga'. Yet, yogasta
kuru karmani = established in Being, perform action, one of the two mottos
of this movement (the other is, nistraigunyo bhavarjun = transcend) really
means established in yoga, doesn't it? Kind of gives away what TM is all
about.yoga.
gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of
God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only
to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some
sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst,
emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light
is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper
articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even
though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people
are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness,
healing of injured area, etc) in the 300
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
FYI: somewhat by the same token, as the word 'bearing' in the Bible never refers to this: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Ball_bearing.jpg ...the word 'ratna' in the Rgveda never (they say) refers to jewel!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: There is a really interesting article generally about deploying 'public opinion shapers' on the internet. I never realized this could happen on the internet. -Buck The tactic is similar to China's model of internet moderators who aim to control news and manipulate opinion. Alex? The post was spam. But, it was also sufficiently Ru-ish that I thought I'd let it through one time on the chance that people might find it interesting. Card's responses lead me to believe I did the right thing. Dear Alex, is this person any different than many of the polemicals who particularly jockey and publish here vigorously publishing against their online hostile forces? This one was a fine line between someone trying to sell sell something unsolicited to an exclusive captive audience (FFL membership) / (spam) and then honestly trying to clean out some old bad PR from the internet (published previously on FFL and still in the archive) that the search engines evidently churn up when looking for Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
Now, on behalf of LuvGemLight who is no longer with us, I would advocate that I spoke with someone about this Gem Light Therapy post of Luvgemlight's, someone who is highly intuitive with clairvoyant capacity, who right away responded that Gem Light Therapy can be quite good for the chakra fields of the subtle system but it is unmodulated in just itself. However there is someone in town here who is a healer who had bought one of the gem lights years ago from the developers before the TM.org bought out the rights to the system from the inventors. ..The things you learn while standing in line waiting for coffee in Fairfield, Iowa! -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: There is a really interesting article generally about deploying 'public opinion shapers' on the internet. I never realized this could happen on the internet. -Buck The tactic is similar to China's model of internet moderators who aim to control news and manipulate opinion. Alex? The post was spam. But, it was also sufficiently Ru-ish that I thought I'd let it through one time on the chance that people might find it interesting. Card's responses lead me to believe I did the right thing. Dear Alex, is this person any different than many of the polemicals who particularly jockey and publish here vigorously publishing against their online hostile forces? This one was a fine line between someone trying to sell sell something unsolicited to an exclusive captive audience (FFL membership) / (spam) and then honestly trying to clean out some old bad PR from the internet (published previously on FFL and still in the archive) that the search engines evidently churn up when looking for Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights -- thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer this from the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good idea since they can materialize. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight- type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA. There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light outside.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in
southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four
times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely
say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving
consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights --
thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike ambient
lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one time, plus
some kundalini awakening later on after that particular treatment. Also, I'm
the last person to notice that I'm transcending during the treatments. I
usually have to infer this from the fact that my experience of myself is so
naturally transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my
Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care
and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good
idea since they can materialize.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
Well, the compound word is
ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing
riches or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV.
AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
According to Macdonell's comment:
...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
agnim iiLe purohitaM
yajñasya devam RtvijaM
hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam.
gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of
God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only
to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some
sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst,
emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-
type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light
is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper
articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even
though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people
are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness,
healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to
date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the
recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's
basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more
than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill
the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80%
of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems
are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA.
There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light
outside.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote:
Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments
here in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either
twice or four times each month since my first treatment last march in
2012, I can safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality
for improving consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are
laser penlights -- thus, the light passing through these gems is very
coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a
ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after
that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm
transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer this from
the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I
don't realize that this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight
treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care and
consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good
idea since they can materialize.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
Well, the compound word is
ratnadhaatama: (ratna-dhaa + superlative suffix -tama?)
ratnadhA [ = ratnadhaa] mfn. procuring wealth , distributing riches
or precious things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV.
AV. S3Br. ; possessing wealth RV.
According to Macdonell's comment:
...'ratna' never means /jewel/ in the Rgveda. :/
ratna n. (1. %{rA}) a gift , present , goods , wealth , riches RV. AV.
S3Br. ; a jewel , gem , treasure , precious stone (the nine jñjewel
are pearl , ruby , topaz , diamond , emerald , lapis lazuli , coral ,
sapphire , Gomeda ; hence %{ratna} is a N. for the number 9 ; but
accord. to some 14) Mn. MBh. c. ; anything valuable or best of its
kind (e. g. %{putra-r-} , an excellent son) ; a magnet , loadstone Kap.
Sch. (cf. %{maNi}) ; water L. ; = %{ratna-havis} S3Br. ; m. (with
%{bhaTTa}) N. of a man Cat.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
There is a really interesting article generally about deploying 'public opinion shapers' on the internet. I never realized this could happen on the internet. -Buck The tactic is similar to China's model of internet moderators who aim to control news and manipulate opinion. Alex? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20982985 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luvgemlight wrote: Having received regular Maharishi Light Therapy with Gem treatments here in southern california ( http://www.socalgemlight.com/ ) either twice or four times each month since my first treatment last march in 2012, I can safely say that, yes, it is a powerful treatment modality for improving consciousness and creativity, and the light beamers are laser penlights -- thus, the light passing through these gems is very coherent (unlike ambient lighting from any other source). I've had a ritam experience, one time, plus some kundalini awakening later on after that particular treatment. Also, I'm the last person to notice that I'm transcending during the treatments. I usually have to infer this from the fact that my experience of myself is so naturally transparent that I don't realize that this transparency is truly my Self. These gemlight treatments are very empowering to the mind, so that care and consideration given to one's thoughts, speech, and action is a very good idea since they can materialize. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight- type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA. There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light outside.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: There is a really interesting article generally about deploying 'public opinion shapers' on the internet. I never realized this could happen on the internet. -Buck The tactic is similar to China's model of internet moderators who aim to control news and manipulate opinion. Alex? The post was spam. But, it was also sufficiently Ru-ish that I thought I'd let it through one time on the chance that people might find it interesting. Card's responses lead me to believe I did the right thing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote:
On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
I guess you mean 'ratna-dhaatama'[1] which is the superlative(?)
from 'ratna-dhaa':
ratnadhAmfn. procuring wealth , distributing riches or precious
things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV. AV. S3Br. ;
possessing wealth RV.
1 agnim iile purohitaM
yajñasya devam Rtvijam
hotaaraM *ratnadhaatamam*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment - A sucker born every minute. And I bet it's one expensive placebo. Although the flashlight with the emerald lens (dare we say Light saber of the Age of Enlight- enment?) sounds really neat, I'm looking forward to when they realize that they could sell the actual gems themselves, as Jyotishi and Ayurveda snake-emerald salesmen do, to be worn directly against the body in jewelry or piercings, for their curative properties. More profit margin in reselling the gems themselves, too. Can't you just imagine the conversation during a consultation with a patient who has come in ask- ing for relief from his impotence: Well, Mr. G, we have checked your Jyotish chart and read your aura, and our recommendation is that the thing you need to cure your impotence is two 4-carat rubies, each attached permanently to one of your testicles, in the form of what we call Piercings of the Age of Enlightenment. You need not worry that these piercings will keep you in a permanent state of erection, because they are mantra-activated. Whenever you need to become erect (for example during the full moon following Shivaratri, the only time it is permissible for a married couple to have holy sex for the purpose of procreation), all you have to do is click your two ruby testicles together and chant, 'There is no place like OM...there is no place like OM. By the way...if the ruby testicles fail to make you erect during that particular Shivaratri, do not be concerned. That's just the Laws Of Nature showing you that this is not an appropriate action at this time. You know...the same way the Laws Of Nature keep you (and all of us) from demonstrating levitation because it just isn't the right time yet. That'll be $108,000 for each ruby, thank you. :-) On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight-type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA. There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light outside.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Although the flashlight with the emerald lens (dare we say Light saber of the Age of Enlight- enment?) sounds really neat, I'm looking forward to when they realize that they could sell the actual gems themselves, as Jyotishi and Ayurveda snake-emerald salesmen do, to be worn directly against the body in jewelry or piercings, for their curative properties. More profit margin in reselling the gems themselves, too. Can't you just imagine the conversation during a consultation with a patient who has come in ask- ing for relief from his impotence: Well, Mr. G, we have checked your Jyotish chart and read your aura, and our recommendation is that the thing you need to cure your impotence is two 4-carat rubies, each attached permanently to one of your testicles, in the form of what we call Piercings of the Age of Enlightenment. You need not worry that these piercings will keep you in a permanent state of erection, because they are mantra-activated. Whenever you need to become erect (for example during the full moon following Shivaratri, the only time it is permissible for a married couple to have holy sex for the purpose of procreation), all you have to do is click your two ruby testicles together and chant, 'There is no place like OM...there is no place like OM. By the way...if the ruby testicles fail to make you erect during that particular Shivaratri, do not be concerned. That's just the Laws Of Nature showing you that this is not an appropriate action at this time. You know...the same way the Laws Of Nature keep you (and all of us) from demonstrating levitation because it just isn't the right time yet. That'll be $108,000 for each ruby, thank you. Very Funny, Barry. It's not the same, but laser therapy has been used for years. Depending on the strength of the laser for various application many have been FDA approved. http://tinyurl.com/bcgy8k Physical Therapists, Chiropractors, Veterinarians and a few Rolfers use low level cold laser therapy for the treatment of joint and myofascial pain. Unfortunately, many of the laser products sold to the general public on the internet are scams, using led lights that have a nice glow but don't do a damn thing. You have to have enough training to know what you're looking for to avoid a rip off. Caveat emptor.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Hugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment - A sucker born every minute. And I bet it's one expensive placebo. Is this really true, Hugo? I find it hard to believe. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment - A sucker born every minute. And I bet it's one expensive placebo. On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the Radiance of God -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value only to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight- type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The light is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and people are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to date. The light is supposed to act on the light body of the recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light fill the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to 80% of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA. There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same light outside.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@
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On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi
Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in
Maharishi
Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the
source of gems,
I guess you mean 'ratna-dhaatama'[1] which is the superlative(?)
from 'ratna-dhaa':
ratnadhA mfn. procuring wealth , distributing riches or
precious
things (%{-tama} mfn. distñdistributing great riches) RV. AV.
S3Br. ;
possessing wealth RV.
1 agnim iile purohitaM
yajñasya devam Rtvijam
hotaaraM *ratnadhaatamam*
***
Yep, ratna means jewel, a common name for girls in India:
http://www.behindthename.com/name/ratna
