Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-29 Thread Emily Reyn
). Ravi, please don't leave without saying until we meet again.   From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-29 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2011, at 8:13 PM, azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Speaking of mad as a March hare. Just sayin'. Yeah, I know. I haven't been in the CIA for years, I've been so busy with Indiana Jones trying to find Q.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-29 Thread seventhray1
for. From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula  DEFCON 2 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula  DEFCON 2 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Thanks Denise. Well because if the other throws his shit at me I sometimes double down and throw it back at them. Again

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-29 Thread Bhairitu
On 12/28/2011 09:43 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: AlrightI might buy most of this.I am taken in by you...you have pushed me and I appreciate that. But, while I do understand the concept that you might feel the other persons pain after humiliating themwhy choose that tactic? It's not

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-29 Thread seventhray1
Got nailed with this winner concept, didn't you Ravi. Having to twist this one around to make it more kosher. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge me. Now having

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
, December 26, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: This stuff in unbelievable.  Taken in?  The assumptions in these statements demonstrates true psychic

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: From my years of experience, I am of the opinion that you/Barry have made some critical and major errors in judgment and should have preceded your diagnostic conclusions with a well-researched fatal flaw analysis, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ok, that's an unambiguous reply. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote: I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
.   From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread turquoiseb
as those who have to rely on epithets like stupid or liar. Or, for that matter, Vag. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread turquoiseb
Emily, if you feel that Robin is sane, and coherent, please explain this (which I looked up after being alerted in email that RWC had lost it so heavily that he no longer even knew who he was talking to on this forum). In this particular tirade, he launches into an abusive analysis *of the wrong

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:48 AM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you have declared in this post makes me out to be a liar. Am I a liar, Steve? No, but you're still walking around with that boogar on your face.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote: What I see is the same pattern that was established and legally censured in Iowa courts -- a disconnect with reality that involves becoming highly obsessed with people who don't react to him the way he wants them to, and devolves into being

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote: What I see is the same pattern that was established and legally censured in Iowa courts -- a disconnect with reality that involves becoming highly obsessed with people who don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
The weirdest thing I remember was his going onto campus and shouting at the buildings to break down the demonic forces which were supposedly endangering MIU... turquoiseb: Vaj, as I've said before, all of this was *long* after my time in the TMO... Everyone knows by now that

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
So, it's all about Robin. P.S. Your post was kind of short, though. LoL!!! turquoiseb: Emily, a couple of points. First, Vaj and I are different people, not one person with two names separated by a forward slash. You are the second person in two days to not be able to tell the

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
Robin, I am willing to look like a fool for the purposes of trying to sort things out. Vaj replies to several points with regards to your career in specific detail. He tells me directly that on several occassions he met you, or saw you in person. On the other hand he said he had a video

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread maskedzebra
RESPONSE: Somebody tell me that I am a sap. Somebody tell me that this is all made up. Because Steve's responses sound credible to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Robin, I am willing to look like a fool for the purposes of trying to sort

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
Robin, Has it ocurred to you that Vaj has built his case, (if you want to call it a case) on specific details. Your response has been to declare that it is all a lie. Now, if there were a bench of 12 jurors listening to the evidence, on the issue of Did this Vajradhatu know or meet this Robin

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
authfriend: Robin, delighted you're back. I was afraid you were through with FFL... After reading so many of the pompous claims by the Turq and the Vaj, this Robin guy is like breathing fresh air. If folks aren't reading Curtis and Robin, what are they here for? It really gets boring

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Robin, Has it ocurred to you that Vaj has built his case, (if you want to call it a case) on specific details. Your response has been to declare that it is all a lie. Now, if there were a bench of 12 jurors

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for years and years and years because he had personal experience as a teacher of TM and has since changed his perspective on its value like most of us here. And maybe Vaj's obvious intererest in Robin comes from his experiences

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for years and years and years because he had personal experience as a teacher of TM and has since changed his perspective on its value like

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I'm sorry Barry. I may have this wrong...I thought I was referring to a conversation between you and Zarzari, not Vag. That's exactly what Emily was

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Did you ever consider that Vaj may be behind the crop circles? Think about it, it kinda makes sense. If I wasn't wearing my new Under Armour aluminum foil undies (boxer briefs) with the patented wick flow cooling system weave I would be a little freaked out right now. But since I do, I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Emily, if you feel that Robin is sane, and coherent, please explain this (which I looked up after being alerted in email that RWC had lost it so heavily that he no longer even knew who he was talking to on this forum). Note

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: snip [Barry wrote:] I think that anyone who claims to be enlightenment has a lot to live up to... You are not making any sense. Live up to what - your expectations? Besides, you once said that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Did you ever consider that Vaj may be behind the crop circles? Think about it, it kinda makes sense. If I wasn't wearing my new Under Armour aluminum foil undies (boxer briefs) with the patented wick flow

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Robin, Has it ocurred to you that Vaj has built his case, (if you want to call it a case) on specific details. Your response has been to declare that it is all a lie. Now, if there were a bench of 12 jurors

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for years and years and years because he had personal experience as a teacher of TM and has since changed his perspective on its value like

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip What IS it about diehard TMers when their fallback position, when they have been unable to get someone to argue head-to-head with them so that they can win or at the very least claim to, becomes trying to go for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: What we *do* say is that we *don't* call any and all TM critics liars. Most of the critics here are *not* liars. Vaj lies and Barry lies. Barry lies primarily about TMers (especially the TMers on FFL, as he does here);

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
or liar. Or, for that matter, Vag. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: You could say that. Vaj has the *right* to do what he's doing; but is it *right* that he's doing it? Enough is known about Vaj to clear up any mystery of what relationship, if any, he had with Robin and his followers. Perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
... From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: You could say that. Vaj has the *right* to do what he's doing; but is it *right* that he's doing it? Enough is known about Vaj to clear up any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   Emily, I feel obliged to give you fair warning.  You are likely one post away from being on Barry's

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
at interspersing my responses... From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula ÂÂ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   Emily, I feel obliged to give you fair warning.  You are likely one post away from being on Barry's DNRL.  Just so you know. --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread azgrey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for years and years and years because he had personal

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
I'd sure like to know the burden of proof you are looking for Judy. Evidently details such as time and place, nuances are not good enough for you. Vaj must keep a complete dossier on Robin, which he must also have pretty much memorized since he posts in nearly zero lag time in response to

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
Emily Reyn: I tried my hand at interspersing my responses... Just a hint: Use before what they say, and then post your replies below that. That way, we can tell what they say and your replies. (Try looking at Judy's posts to get the formatting). Use the ENTER key to break lines at 40

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   Emily Reyn: I tried my hand at interspersing my responses... Just a hint: Use before what they say, and then post your replies below that. That way, we can tell what they say and your replies. (Try looking

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: I'd sure like to know the burden of proof you are looking for Judy. Evidently details such as time and place, nuances are not good enough for you. Vaj must keep a complete dossier on Robin, which he must also have

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
Thanks Wayback. I appreciate a little nod of support. But the fact of the matter is that I think the whole affair is being kept alive by Robin for some reason. On the one hand he claims to be sensitive to those who were involved in his activities way back when. Then, in almost the same

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, December 26, 2011 4:26 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: This stuff in unbelievable. Â Taken in? Â The assumptions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
then?  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   Your's/Barry's willingness to define Ravi and Robin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Hm..the winner huh. Your statement here is a bit convoluted. If you have no agenda, then why do you have to win. You make some assumptions here about the person who approaches you... Ravi - Approaches with an agenda that is, as in to confront me. Winner only from their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge me. Now having humiliated this person, I feel that person's emotions - hurt, pain, anger, because they are another part of me, how can I not feel hurt? But I am able to quickly internalize and transform these

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
28, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge me. Now having humiliated this person, I feel that person's emotions - hurt, pain, anger, because

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
Such hifalutin words. Hifalutin concepts. Existance made me do it. What a a great invention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hm..the winner huh. Your statement here is a bit convoluted. If you have no agenda, then why do you have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge me. Now having humiliated this person, I feel that person's emotions

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread seventhray1
? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
Thank god, DEFCON 1 has never been called for. From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula  And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   And I will be the first person, if needed to soothe, love, apply medicine Denise. You are a mother, you will easily understand

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Emily Reyn
not :)   Love, ~Em... From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   I might be close

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-28 Thread Ravi Chivukula
to soothe, love, apply medicine Denise. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula  And I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:31 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: Maharishi had a word for this, for people slipping into Brahman (or so) and not being really grounded: Moody Brahman Yeah, I remember him, didn't he play the sax?

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
Well, almost an hour by the Web site timestamps. But no matter. Oh, yes, I must have been in Turya state of consciousness then (wink wink willy) Very impressive! So, we are agreed, zarzari_786: Yes we are agreed. but I thought it was Robin that had been in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
The thing that causes me to believe in this theory is the fact that RWC refuses to even consider it, even as a possibility. *His* subjective view is the only possible explanation. That's pretty much classic NPD/hypomania. Some people who believe they are enlightened may just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2011, at 7:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: According to Maharishi and according to tradition this [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this case it wasn't fully established. Either that or it never

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
snip It is worth noting that most of the people discussing these supposed higher states of consciousness that some on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely from a theoretical basis. They have personally never had such experiences, and are basing anything they say on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Bob Price
, or from Latin vagus ‘wandering, uncertain.’ From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:09:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula On Dec 26, 2011

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
Hey Boob: On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Bob Price wrote: Vague, You and Barry give new meaning to the epithet Pond Scum, first you go after Robin's ex-wife, speculating on their love life, and now its his mother (neither of whom would give either of you the time of day---opps, I guess

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Bob Price
And what about my accusation that you're pond scum? From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:44:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula Hey

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Bob Price wrote: And what about my accusation that you're pond scum? Pretty hard in the winter Boob.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Bob Price
From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Actually, she did give me the time of day ***BP: Now we're getting somewhere, Dr. Carlsen treated you and Barry for your Oedipus complex. Vague, Don't ever let anyone tell you you're not terminally unique, I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread maskedzebra
Judy: According to Maharishi and according to tradition this [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this case it wasn't fully established. Zarzari: Either that or it never happened in the first place. That is, from everything that has been reported here that I've read, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Bob Price wrote: From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Actually, she did give me the time of day ***BP: Now we're getting somewhere, Dr. Carlsen treated you and Barry for your Oedipus complex. Alas, we never met. But a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Bob Price
vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Actually, she did give me the time of day vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Alas, we never met. But a relative did send me the family tree. ***BP: Your VAGUENESS, Like I said: vague |vāg| adjective of uncertain,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Vaj: There's more evidence to suggest this, as a common 'bragging claim' of Carlsen followers was the fact that he wrote The Discovery of Grace with commentary (I believe, or one of his tomes) by staying up all night and simply dictating it,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread authfriend
Robin, delighted you're back. I was afraid you were through with FFL. Several attribution corrections below (you have me confused with zarzari and zarzari confused with Barry); plus a backup to your remarks concerning MMY's attitude toward your activities back in the day. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Hey Boob: On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Bob Price wrote: Vague, You and Barry give new meaning to the epithet Pond Scum, first you go after Robin's ex-wife, speculating on their love life, and now its his mother

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Vaj: And I wonder how many present day psychologists she inspired? Perhaps many. IMO, Dr. Norah Carlsen, Ph.D. is the more interesting story I'd like to hear. My belated condolences on the passing of this incredible

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:09 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Vaj: And I wonder how many present day psychologists she inspired? Perhaps many. IMO, Dr. Norah Carlsen, Ph.D. is the more interesting story I'd like to hear.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread seventhray1
: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:09:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula On Dec 26, 2011, at 7:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@ wrote: According to Maharishi and according

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread maskedzebra
RESPONSE: I am grateful to you for pointing out some of my misattributions, Judy. I have made the appropriate corrections below. By the way, you were right: I was not planning on posting again at FFL. But I couldn't help acting when I saw the post to which this is a response. I appreciate your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 6:47 PM, maskedzebra wrote: But I couldn't help acting when I saw the post to which this is a response. Well, look who fell for the bait.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread seventhray1
It is worth noting that most of the people discussing these supposed higher states of consciousness that some on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely from a theoretical basis. They have personally never had such experiences, and are basing anything they say on theories

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:43 PM, seventhray1 wrote: It is worth noting that most of the people discussing these supposed higher states of consciousness that some on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely from a theoretical basis. They have personally never had such

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread seventhray1
Somebody tell me that I am a sap. Somebody tell me that this is all made up. Because Vaj's responses sound credible to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Vaj: There's more evidence to suggest this, as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread seventhray1
I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on record saying that you were not allowed to attend MIU by your parents. But evidently you were in Fairfield to witness certain events in RWC saga. Do I have this right? Thanks for a reply if you are so inclined. I saw your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Vaj
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote: I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on record saying that you were not allowed to attend MIU by your parents. But evidently you were in Fairfield to witness certain events in RWC saga. Do I have this right? Thanks

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread seventhray1
Ok, that's an unambiguous reply. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote: I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on record saying that you were not allowed to attend MIU by your parents. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread Emily Reyn
. From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula   On Dec 27, 2011, at 6:47 PM, maskedzebra wrote: But I couldn't help acting when I saw

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Somebody tell me that I am a sap. Somebody tell me that this is all made up. Because Vaj's responses sound credible to me. Stevie Wonderboy: What about Robin's responses? He is saying that Vaj is lying, is

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ok, that's an unambiguous reply. Thanks. RESPONSE: You're doing it again Stevo! This reply of Vaj's actually did not satisfy you at all; however, you suddenly felt that it might serve your purposes to deny this

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: RESPONSE: I am grateful to you for pointing out some of my misattributions, Judy. I have made the appropriate corrections below. By the way, you were right: I was not planning on posting again at FFL. But I couldn't help

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread zarzari_786
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I'm not sure whether it's considered possible in MMY's teaching to abandon higher consciousness once it's become stable (Robin's, according to him, lasted for at least a decade). According to Maharishi and according to

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: According to Maharishi and according to tradition this [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this case it wasn't fully established. Either that or it never happened in the first place. That is, from

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
zarzari: Not Brahma Chaitanya, but Brahmi Chetana... Brahman Consciousness or brahmi chetana. All of the acharyas of Vedanta point to this state of being. O Svetaketu, do you understand what I am telling you? This great but most essence of all the worlds is the Truth, the Atman, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
It isn't as MMY described if he can throw it all off and become de-enlightened, going back to mere waking state! zarzari: This is not a classic term, as emptybill rightly pointed out, it doesn't belong to the Vedantic system... According to the Sri Vidya tradition of

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread zarzari_786
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: snip Judy, I think you are not quite right here. The spoof, which some may not get, was about Robin, and Barry was about the first to catch this, about 2 min. after I had posted it. Well, almost an hour by the Web site

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread zarzari_786
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Judy, I think you are not quite right here. The spoof, which some may not get, was about Robin, and Barry was about the first to catch this,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
Well, almost an hour by the Web site timestamps. But no matter. zarzari: Oh, yes, I must have been in Turya state of consciousness then (wink wink willy) Very impressive! So, we are agreed, but I thought it was Robin that had been in the Turiya state - now we've got a whole new set

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I'm not sure whether it's considered possible in MMY's teaching to abandon higher consciousness once it's become stable (Robin's, according to him,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Judy, I think you are not quite right here. The spoof, which some may not get, was about Robin, and Barry was about the first to catch this,

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