[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders: LB

2013-05-28 Thread Alex Stanley
I also didn't know him well, but we hung out in the same circle of friends in recent years, and I considered him a friend. He used to make some cash by giving people rides to airports, etc., and a few years ago, I had him drive me to Ottumwa to pick up my new car (well, new to me... a rebuilt, s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders: LB

2013-05-28 Thread at_man_and_brah...@sbcglobal.net
LB had many admirers. I remember vividly from the last time I saw him, probably in the early '90s. Passing by me in some crowded place in Fairfield, he gave me his unique grin, the almost imperceptible lifting of one side of his mouth and full gaze that said so much while saying so little. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread drpsutphen
Chicken sandwiches and good sex has saved many a yogi that spent too much time in the transcendent! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > > > > > Ha ha! Good to see you're alive and well incarnated as D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread drpsutphen
"Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of drpsutphen > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:19 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > > Ha ha! Good to see you're alive and well incarnated as Dr. Dumbass! I decided > to sign-up again because of some masochistic samskara that has become lively. > I also wanted to see what people had to say about LB. Not many seem t

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drpsutphen Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders Hi Judy, thanks for the welcome back. I just knew LB casually from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread drpsutphen
Hi Judy, thanks for the welcome back. I just knew LB casually from all my years at MIU and then living in Fairfield. He also used to do his program next to me in the dome. The video of him that someone posted a link to yesterday speaking last month really captured his spirit. He was a gadfly; a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > Ha ha! Good to see you're alive and well incarnated as Dr. > Dumbass! I decided to sign-up again because of some masochistic > samskara that has become lively. I also wanted to see what > people had to say about LB. Not many seem to ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread drpsutphen
Ha ha! Good to see you're alive and well incarnated as Dr. Dumbass! I decided to sign-up again because of some masochistic samskara that has become lively. I also wanted to see what people had to say about LB. Not many seem to have known him. Quite the character. -Peter --- In FairfieldLife@ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
Most TM research was published between 5 and 40 years ago, not "more than 35 years ago." Sheesh. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > The thing is... > > after the American Heart Association reviewed about 1,000 papers on > meditation that were published in the last

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread sparaig
The thing is... after the American Heart Association reviewed about 1,000 papers on meditation that were published in the last 5 years (only about 50 of them were on TM), they concluded that the non-TM meditation and relaxation techniques (relaxation response, mantra meditation, mindfulness, sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread doctordumbass
Wassup, Dr. Drum Circle? (Hi from Jim F., now posting as Dr. Dumbass...I figured we needed a doctor in the house, once you left...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > > Sri Sri Ravi Shankar used to do the same thing in India. He'd take groups of > people to see other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-28 Thread drpsutphen
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar used to do the same thing in India. He'd take groups of people to see other yogis and gurus. When people would start pointing out the "short-comings" of the other groups he'd always stop them and say something to the effect that the Absolute has infinite expressions. -Pete

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
> turquoiseb: > I'm sitting in a cafe along the Seine appreciating > the beginnings of a sunset that looks as if it's > going to be a doozy. Who can worry about gnats when > a light show like that is going on? > He is the most interesting man in the world. Some say he found the Fountain of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread sparaig
Given how easy it is for people to miss things, like talking about enlightenment in terms of seeing (perceiving) rather than self (being), as happened with that recent interview Rick conducted, I'm not surprised. Seeing comes from being mindful. Self comes from, well, being. L --- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. > > > > Actually it is d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. > > > > Actually it is d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
The Great Writer's Imagined Response, To His Great Writing: m...yes, Barry, oh yes! Fucking brilliant! Ooh, you rock! Damn you are perceptive! Kissee??! Smooch-O?? Lip-lock, you bad boy?? h??? You rock my world. (smooch?) xoxoxoxoxo hm? wink, wink, nudge, nudge? Brilliant, You!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. > > Actually it is difficult to know just what you object to > because you seem to object to jus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
My bad - Yes, you are correct, a chimpanzee will eventually write Shakespeare, if given enough time. However, unlike you, I am pretty much out of bananas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > (snip) > > > The real function of a statement like 'you are already > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > wrote: > > > (snip) >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > (snip) > > > The real function of a statement like 'you are already > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/26/2013 10:27 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: >> I never heard anything about him saying that simple >> meditators were to avoid seeking other paths, only >> that it was bad form for the TM teachers to be seen >> that way. > It may not have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > (snip) > > The real function of a statement like 'you are already > > enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity > > as to what it signifies, si

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
A BRILLIANT distillation!! LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > (snip) > > (to Xeno) > > > I honestly don't remember us ever "arguing." What > > > I re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > (snip) > > The real function of a statement like 'you are already > > enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity > > as to what it signifies,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > (snip) > (to Xeno) > > I honestly don't remember us ever "arguing." What > > I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed > > anxious to engage me in endless back-and-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: (snip) > The real function of a statement like 'you are already > enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity > as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not > click with you at a certain point in your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I think most of his confusion, regarding the context and meaning of spiritual > terms, came from Lenz, who from what I can see, made many ridiculous claims > for his own consciousness. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) (to Xeno) > I honestly don't remember us ever "arguing." What > I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed > anxious to engage me in endless back-and-forth, a la > Judy, and I was having none of it. For the record, it's been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
I think most of his confusion, regarding the context and meaning of spiritual terms, came from Lenz, who from what I can see, made many ridiculous claims for his own consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctord

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders [to Barry]

2013-05-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Arguing with Robin was like being suffo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > "As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your > enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it." > > That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only trick > is remembering the bank accou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-27 Thread doctordumbass
"As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it." That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only trick is remembering the bank account number. It is a feel good phrase for those like you who are very far from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > > and teachers) shouldn't be looking a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > I never heard anything about him saying that simple > meditators were to avoid seeking other paths, only > that it was bad form for the TM teachers to be seen > that way. It may not have been "said," but it was policy. If you were know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > > and teachers) sho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
"Seeking is worthless. The world is full of people faking enlightenment." - Barry Wright "The world is as you are" - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it > > looked like you were still "seeking"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > and teachers) shouldn't be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread sparaig
I never heard anything about him saying that simple meditators were to avoid seeking other paths, only that it was bad form for the TM teachers to be seen that way. Telling rank-and-file meditators what to do certainly crosses into the territory of religion, and he was usually pretty careful ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: (snip) > Though (spiritual) seeking can go away, there is no end to > finding, even if you run out of places to look. For me Turq > was the most helpful, even if he did not intend to be. > Others might be aghast at that, for e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it > > looked like you were still "seeking" a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it > looked like you were still "seeking" an answer and had not > "found" it in TM. IOW, bad PR. It's not unusu