[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
All the state offices are in the hands of the pro-union Democrats that you helped elect. Bhairitu: Wrong... So, you didn't vote in California elections - I thought so. Maybe you should get out more! Get smart and read some reports; vote in national and state elections, or something. You're not accomplishing anything here but making yourself look like an unread, non-voter, that likes to bitch a lot. Most of your ideas are crack-pot schemes and are totally unsustainable. With ideas like yours, it's no wonder your state is on the verge of bankruptcy! At least you could join a 'Tea Party' protest to show that you're opposed to the high taxes and the way things are going in your state with the finances. Or, maybe you're the one that wants the state to fail, so it can be bailed out by the federal government. If, so then I'd vote against it - no more government bailouts!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
WillyTex wrote: All the state offices are in the hands of the pro-union Democrats that you helped elect. Bhairitu: Wrong... So, you didn't vote in California elections - I thought so. Maybe you should get out more! Get smart and read some reports; vote in national and state elections, or something. You're not accomplishing anything here but making yourself look like an unread, non-voter, that likes to bitch a lot. Most of your ideas are crack-pot schemes and are totally unsustainable. With ideas like yours, it's no wonder your state is on the verge of bankruptcy! At least you could join a 'Tea Party' protest to show that you're opposed to the high taxes and the way things are going in your state with the finances. Or, maybe you're the one that wants the state to fail, so it can be bailed out by the federal government. If, so then I'd vote against it - no more government bailouts! So Willy, what are you going to do when the banksters steal your retirement fund?
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Bhairitu: Look we see things differently... We sure do - my plan for job creation makes sense, your economic plan is to bankrupt the entire state of California, and then get the federal government to bail the failed state out! California's three biggest pension funds are as much as $500 billion short of meeting future retiree benefits, a Stanford University report said... Full story: 'California Pensions Are $500 Billion Short' Business Week, April 5, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/y85qh4q We're talking about letting states make big promises without bothering to find sustainable sources of revenue.. Read more: 'Saving States From Themselves' Posted by Glenn Reynolds Instapundit, April 5, 2010 http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/97102/
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WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu: Look we see things differently... We sure do - my plan for job creation makes sense, your economic plan is to bankrupt the entire state of California, and then get the federal government to bail the failed state out! You never make any sense, Willy. The Republicans bankrupted California so they could buy for pennies on the dollar. That sounds more like your plan so you can be a feudal landlord. California's three biggest pension funds are as much as $500 billion short of meeting future retiree benefits, a Stanford University report said... I tend to agree since they gave away too much with these pensions. But people are dumb and cared less about what they were getting paid an hour and more about benefits. They're so dumb they didn't realize they were paying for the benefits too. A fair number of retirees on pensions say they wouldn't care if those benefits were reduced as they really don't need that much money. These were the wise ones who already paid their home off or didn't over extend themselves to begin. Those who expect big pension benefits are going to be VERY disappointed. A pension is not supposed to be like winning the lottery. Of course we all know that Willy would be kicking and screaming if he didn't get every last penny of his promised pension. He's a two faced turd.
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
We sure do - my plan for job creation makes sense, your economic plan is to bankrupt the entire state of California, and then get the federal government to bail the failed state out! Bhairitu: The Republicans bankrupted California so they could buy for pennies on the dollar... You must be joking! Conservatives don't have a voice in California politics. All the state offices are in the hands of the pro-union Democrats that you helped elect. 'California Debt Crisis Explained' http://tinyurl.com/y8o3ax9
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WillyTex wrote: We sure do - my plan for job creation makes sense, your economic plan is to bankrupt the entire state of California, and then get the federal government to bail the failed state out! Bhairitu: The Republicans bankrupted California so they could buy for pennies on the dollar... You must be joking! Conservatives don't have a voice in California politics. All the state offices are in the hands of the pro-union Democrats that you helped elect. 'California Debt Crisis Explained' http://tinyurl.com/y8o3ax9 Wrong. We even have a conservative governor. You need to get some smarts, Willy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
So you see it as economic class stuggle, out of a certain shall I say non-capitalist playbook. Look we see things differently --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: It was not a projection. I called you a dummy because you don't seem to know history. The history of this country from it's inception has been a battle between a bunch of materialistic fools who though it was their divine right to rule and an intellectual minority that didn't care to accumulate a lot of property (which is a responsibility) or to rule over other (also a responsibility). It therefore is a product of nature. The intellectual set will only take so much from the materialists and then it is war. To the intellectual set the materialists all look like a bunch of vain fools and dangerous ones at that. We have seen what they do to the world and don't like it. If you don't like my criticism then tough shit. sgrayatlarge wrote: This will do Bhairitu Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! Accusing me of dummy like behavior when I expressed my opinion is pushing it and I can only come up with the conclusion of projection. You are not my parent, so knock it off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And your definition of projection is? sgrayatlarge wrote: Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The Arafat reference were towards the end of the article, and if my biases are that apparent then it is what it is. Perhaps others will comment on other parts of Parry's article... Judy: He needs to focus more on the spinelessness of the Democrats in Congress and the White House... Bricks thrown through windows of political offices; ominous messages left for members of congress; a party leader threatened with death. Have the 'Progressive' Democrats have gone wild! It sure looks like it, to judge from the posts submitted so far on FFL! FBI agents arrested Normon Leboon Sr. in connection with the death threat to kill Eric Cantor who is Jewish. Apparently Leboon made donations to the Obama campaign. Any criticism of the current commander-in-chief is considered to be defamatory lies, according to John Manning! Go figure. Apparently Bhairitu actually believes that there are parallels to the Nazis. The Third Reich is alive and well in America! Barry2 and John sound really scared! So scared that they forgot to even mention the threat to kill a Jewish politician. Who can forget the PhotoShoped images of George W. Bush, with the body of Hitler, posted by Manning on Usenet? Where was Rick when the anti-Bush fanatics made the snuff- film 'Death of a President'? No response from Rick or John or barry2. They want us to believe that it's the Republicans that are throwing the bricks, I guess. Maybe the real 'wingnuts' are people like John Manning; I hope Rick Archer isn't just another wing-nut, but after posting this thread, I'm beginning to wonder if Rick is actually thinking clearly! Neither the Left nor the Right have a monopoly on political extremism, though you wouldn't know it to read the messages posted here! Why is that? 'Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America' By John Avlon http://tinyurl.com/ylm69ry
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Well.. you're just being negative! From: WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 10:05:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA The Arafat reference were towards the end of the article, and if my biases are that apparent then it is what it is. Perhaps others will comment on other parts of Parry's article... Judy: He needs to focus more on the spinelessness of the Democrats in Congress and the White House... Bricks thrown through windows of political offices; ominous messages left for members of congress; a party leader threatened with death. Have the 'Progressive' Democrats have gone wild! It sure looks like it, to judge from the posts submitted so far on FFL! FBI agents arrested Normon Leboon Sr. in connection with the death threat to kill Eric Cantor who is Jewish. Apparently Leboon made donations to the Obama campaign. Any criticism of the current commander-in- chief is considered to be defamatory lies, according to John Manning! Go figure. Apparently Bhairitu actually believes that there are parallels to the Nazis. The Third Reich is alive and well in America! Barry2 and John sound really scared! So scared that they forgot to even mention the threat to kill a Jewish politician. Who can forget the PhotoShoped images of George W. Bush, with the body of Hitler, posted by Manning on Usenet? Where was Rick when the anti-Bush fanatics made the snuff- film 'Death of a President'? No response from Rick or John or barry2. They want us to believe that it's the Republicans that are throwing the bricks, I guess. Maybe the real 'wingnuts' are people like John Manning; I hope Rick Archer isn't just another wing-nut, but after posting this thread, I'm beginning to wonder if Rick is actually thinking clearly! Neither the Left nor the Right have a monopoly on political extremism, though you wouldn't know it to read the messages posted here! Why is that? 'Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America' By John Avlon http://tinyurl. com/ylm69ry
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Rick Archer: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA... So, I wonder who staged the 'days of rage' at the 1969 Democratic National Convention in Chicago? Students for a Democratic Society: http://tinyurl.com/lr9wyd Weather Underground: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_Organization Bill Ayers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
TurquoiseB: Interesting... Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson! - Bernardine Dohrn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadine_Dohrn
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court for about eight years - and almost succeeded in destroying the US economy and creating another catastrophic global Great Depression. I really don't think the American people are stupid enough to vote those sorry fucks back into power any time soon. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Leaving Arafat completely out of it, it WAS, after all, Carter who successfully negotiated the hostage release with Iran, not Reagan. SEE: How Hostage Pact Was Forged: Turning Point in September http://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/28/washington/19810128iran.html?pagewanted=all Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left You've been watching too much Glenn Beck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Excellent article, Rick. I doubt the right wingers here will even read it. The title you gave it says it all: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The article Rick posted So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA can be found here: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/033110.html [snip to end for brevity]
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Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
No,Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning- Jonah Goldbert, I highly recommend this book that indeed Beck and others borrow liberally from. Btw, do you watch Beck? Pretty entertaining isn't he? Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Wasn't it also Carter the one who ingnited the whole Jihadi movement with his expert handling of the Iranian hostage crisis? Let's see what will happen this November --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court for about eight years - and almost succeeded in destroying the US economy and creating another catastrophic global Great Depression. I really don't think the American people are stupid enough to vote those sorry fucks back into power any time soon. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Leaving Arafat completely out of it, it WAS, after all, Carter who successfully negotiated the hostage release with Iran, not Reagan. SEE: How Hostage Pact Was Forged: Turning Point in September http://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/28/washington/19810128iran.html?pagewanted=all Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left You've been watching too much Glenn Beck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Excellent article, Rick. I doubt the right wingers here will even read it. The title you gave it says it all: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The article Rick posted So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA can be found here: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/033110.html [snip to end for brevity]
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The ONLY time I've ever watched Glenn Beck was when I knew he was going to do a segment on fascism and how it exists on both the right and left (I agree with that). But his bottom line was: keep the status quo. Probably most of his viewers are too dumb to see that though. He just wants to keep ol' Rupert in power and the grand master feudal landlord. Don't hold your breathe for November. sgrayatlarge wrote: No,Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning- Jonah Goldbert, I highly recommend this book that indeed Beck and others borrow liberally from. Btw, do you watch Beck? Pretty entertaining isn't he? Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Wasn't it also Carter the one who ingnited the whole Jihadi movement with his expert handling of the Iranian hostage crisis? Let's see what will happen this November --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court for about eight years - and almost succeeded in destroying the US economy and creating another catastrophic global Great Depression. I really don't think the American people are stupid enough to vote those sorry fucks back into power any time soon. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Leaving Arafat completely out of it, it WAS, after all, Carter who successfully negotiated the hostage release with Iran, not Reagan. SEE: How Hostage Pact Was Forged: Turning Point in September http://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/28/washington/19810128iran.html?pagewanted=all Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left You've been watching too much Glenn Beck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Excellent article, Rick. I doubt the right wingers here will even read it. The title you gave it says it all: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The article Rick posted So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a
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I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Thanks Turq, you have a way with words. I'm about as redneck as Charlie Lutes used to be. Yes,I am a Zionist, not all Jews are but you can label me that. As far as the teabag chin reference, well that is going a bit too far, but I support the tea party. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The status quo of Liberal Fascism? Have you checked out the left's answer to the Tea Party? The Coffee Party? Speaking of status quo, here is their mission statement: COFFEE PARTY MISSION STATEMENT: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government. We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will, and that we must participate in the democratic process in order to address the challenges that we face as Americans. As voters and grassroots volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them. I wonder if they would have written this during the Bush years? Cooperate with Government? Ha? Sounds like if one doesn't support the government in a positive way, they will be help accountable. I remember just a few years ago seeing bumper stickers all over the place that read Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism Sounds like a soft form of tyranny to me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The ONLY time I've ever watched Glenn Beck was when I knew he was going to do a segment on fascism and how it exists on both the right and left (I agree with that). But his bottom line was: keep the status quo. Probably most of his viewers are too dumb to see that though. He just wants to keep ol' Rupert in power and the grand master feudal landlord. Don't hold your breathe for November. sgrayatlarge wrote: No,Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning- Jonah Goldbert, I highly recommend this book that indeed Beck and others borrow liberally from. Btw, do you watch Beck? Pretty entertaining isn't he? Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Wasn't it also Carter the one who ingnited the whole Jihadi movement with his expert handling of the Iranian hostage crisis? Let's see what will happen this November --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. That seems like a close fit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Btw, didn't the classical Tantra period start around 600-800 AD? Smacks of feudalism to me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Thanks Turq, you have a way with words. I'm about as redneck as Charlie Lutes used to be. Politically, Charlie always struck me as about as redneck as they come. So I'll take that as a big Yes. :-) Yes,I am a Zionist, not all Jews are but you can label me that. It's been obvious from some of your posts. If you're comfortable with the label, and with the mindset, so be it. Some class Zionists lower than Glenn Beck viewers. :-) As far as the teabag chin reference, well that is going a bit too far, but I support the tea party. I don't think it's going too far to remind the people who appropriated the term teabagging what it really means. It means 1) dipping your nutsack in a sexual partner's mouth, or 2) dangling said nutsack on his/her chin while getting a BJ. Since the Tea Party seems to be all about sucking up (in every sense of the term) to money and those who have it, I commend them on their choice of name. I'm just wondering where you're at, dude. You berate Bharitu thusly: when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity But what is *your* rant below? You stop reading the moment you see the name Arafat, and then spend the rest of your rant ignoring any of the points Robert might have made, and respond only by personally attacking a person whose work you clearly have no knowledge of. What kind of insularity are *you* defining, eh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The Arafat reference were towards the end of the article, and if my biases are that apparent then it is what it is. Perhaps others will comment on other parts of Parry's article. I may not be that familiar with Parry, however, I didn't see much new ground covered. I didn't realize you knew so much about the tea party. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Thanks Turq, you have a way with words. I'm about as redneck as Charlie Lutes used to be. Politically, Charlie always struck me as about as redneck as they come. So I'll take that as a big Yes. :-) Yes,I am a Zionist, not all Jews are but you can label me that. It's been obvious from some of your posts. If you're comfortable with the label, and with the mindset, so be it. Some class Zionists lower than Glenn Beck viewers. :-) As far as the teabag chin reference, well that is going a bit too far, but I support the tea party. I don't think it's going too far to remind the people who appropriated the term teabagging what it really means. It means 1) dipping your nutsack in a sexual partner's mouth, or 2) dangling said nutsack on his/her chin while getting a BJ. Since the Tea Party seems to be all about sucking up (in every sense of the term) to money and those who have it, I commend them on their choice of name. I'm just wondering where you're at, dude. You berate Bharitu thusly: when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity But what is *your* rant below? You stop reading the moment you see the name Arafat, and then spend the rest of your rant ignoring any of the points Robert might have made, and respond only by personally attacking a person whose work you clearly have no knowledge of. What kind of insularity are *you* defining, eh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: No,Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning- Jonah Goldbert, Jonah Goldberg is widely recognized a radical right wing wacko. I highly recommend this book that indeed Beck and others borrow liberally from. Btw, do you watch Beck? Pretty entertaining isn't he? You didn't read what I wrote about Glenn Beck: Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? Wasn't it also Carter the one who ingnited the whole Jihadi movement with his expert handling of the Iranian hostage crisis? That's total nonsense. In fact Reagan SUPPORTED the Muslim radicals in Afghanistan with money and arms. Let's see what will happen this November The pollsters generally agree that the Dems will lose seats in both the Senate and House because the economy [that Obama inherited from the loser Republicans] still has a long way to go to recover, particularly in employment. But pollsters also generally agree that the Dems will likely still retain a majority. We shall see. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court for about eight years - and almost succeeded in destroying the US economy and creating another catastrophic global Great Depression. I really don't think the American people are stupid enough to vote those sorry fucks back into power any time soon. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Leaving Arafat completely out of it, it WAS, after all, Carter who successfully negotiated the hostage release with Iran, not Reagan. SEE: How
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? I can. Carter was a religious fundamentalist who had met with MMY while governor of Georgia. There used to be a photo of the meeting floating around. Allegedly, he was on his knees praying before the meeting. My sense was that he was praying for protection, but who knows? Anyway, during his presidential campaign, he told someone close to him that should he win, he'd do everything in his power to interfere with the TM movement. The person he said that to relayed the conversation to Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, wife of playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker), who attended TTC in Mallorca. She used to speak at TM conferences and go to residence courses and I got to know her. She told me what Carter's aid (or whoever he was) had told her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? I can. Carter was a religious fundamentalist who had met with MMY while governor of Georgia. There used to be a photo of the meeting floating around. Allegedly, he was on his knees praying before the meeting. My sense was that he was praying for protection, but who knows? Anyway, during his presidential campaign, he told someone close to him that should he win, he'd do everything in his power to interfere with the TM movement. The person he said that to relayed the conversation to Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, wife of playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker), who attended TTC in Mallorca. She used to speak at TM conferences and go to residence courses and I got to know her. She told me what Carter's aid (or whoever he was) had told her. One wonders what Carter's real motivations were? Did he really fear that TM would become the next world religion eclipsing Christianity? That's a laugh though we seem to have some TB'ers who would like to do that. Or did he think it was a conspiracy to take many young folks who could have grown up to be great leaders and distract them?
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Thanks Turq, you have a way with words. I'm about as redneck as Charlie Lutes used to be. Politically, Charlie always struck me as about as redneck as they come. So I'll take that as a big Yes. :-) Yes,I am a Zionist, not all Jews are but you can label me that. It's been obvious from some of your posts. If you're comfortable with the label, and with the mindset, so be it. Some class Zionists lower than Glenn Beck viewers. :-) And most of those who do are anti-Semites. As far as the teabag chin reference, well that is going a bit too far, but I support the tea party. I don't think it's going too far to remind the people who appropriated the term teabagging what it really means. Teabaggers is a lefty term of derision, not one appropriated by the Tea Party folks. So it's not just going too far, it's outright wrong. (Probably simply ignorant rather than a lie, though.)
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And your definition of projection is? sgrayatlarge wrote: Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: The status quo of Liberal Fascism? Have you checked out the left's answer to the Tea Party? The Coffee Party? Speaking of status quo, here is their mission statement: COFFEE PARTY MISSION STATEMENT: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government. We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will, and that we must participate in the democratic process in order to address the challenges that we face as Americans. As voters and grassroots volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them. I wonder if they would have written this during the Bush years? Cooperate with Government? Ha? Ha indeed. Cooperation *in* government is what it says, not cooperate *with* government. Sounds like if one doesn't support the government in a positive way, they will be help accountable. I remember just a few years ago seeing bumper stickers all over the place that read Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism Doesn't dissent involve holding accountable those who obstruct positive solutions?
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? I can. Carter was a religious fundamentalist who had met with MMY while governor of Georgia. There used to be a photo of the meeting floating around. Allegedly, he was on his knees praying before the meeting. My sense was that he was praying for protection, but who knows? Anyway, during his presidential campaign, he told someone close to him that should he win, he'd do everything in his power to interfere with the TM movement. The person he said that to relayed the conversation to Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, wife of playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker), who attended TTC in Mallorca. She used to speak at TM conferences and go to residence courses and I got to know her. She told me what Carter's aid (or whoever he was) had told her. So much for inuendo and gossip. Can anyone directly point to anything specific Carter *actually did* to go after the TM movement? It really sounds like one of the stories of Maharishi's paranoid rants about the CIA.
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Bhairitu: They hate us for our freedom... So, the words of the 'right' incited violence against Democrats? So, I wonder if Rick was alive back in 1964? That was the year of that really big riot in Harlem, that lasted five days, with 500 injured and many were arrested. The Watts riot in 1965, Detroit and Newark in 1967, Washington, D.C., and 100 other cities in 1968, all bringing troops into American cities. And' you're thinking this was caused by the Republicans? You're not making any sense. These riots were cause by Democrats who wanted to go 'all the way with LBJ.' This was your 'New Left'. Maybe you were much happier back then! Now, all you've got to protest against are the Tea Party protestors. That's it - that's all you've got, a few silly lines on an online forum, trying to make fun of a 'tea party' protest, while your state economy declares itself insolvent! Go figure.
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I think Jimmy Carter thought of TM and M as being another potential *Jonestown* situation. Just about all cults took a big hit at that time. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 12:26:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com mailto:FairfieldLi fe%40yahoogroups .com , sgrayatlarge no_re...@.. . wrote: Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? I can. Carter was a religious fundamentalist who had met with MMY while governor of Georgia. There used to be a photo of the meeting floating around. Allegedly, he was on his knees praying before the meeting. My sense was that he was praying for protection , but who knows? Anyway, during his presidential campaign, he told someone close to him that should he win, he'd do everything in his power to interfere with the TM movement. The person he said that to relayed the conversation to Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, wife of playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker), who attended TTC in Mallorca. She used to speak at TM conferences and go to residence courses and I got to know her. She told me what Carter's aid (or whoever he was) had told her. One wonders what Carter's real motivations were? Did he really fear that TM would become the next world religion eclipsing Christianity? That's a laugh though we seem to have some TB'ers who would like to do that. Or did he think it was a conspiracy to take many young folks who could have grown up to be great leaders and distract them?
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sgrayatlarge: Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left The onus is on Obama to build relationships with minority leaders. Bloomberg - Just 8 percent of Americans want the members of Congress re-elected, according to a CBS News-New York Times poll taken nine months before roughly one-third of the Senate and the entire House face voters... Full story: 'Few Americans Want Members of Congress Re-Elected' By Jonathan D. Salant February 12, 2010
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: The Arafat reference were towards the end of the article, and if my biases are that apparent then it is what it is. Perhaps others will comment on other parts of Parry's article. I may not be that familiar with Parry, however, I didn't see much new ground covered. I didn't either. He writes: Washington's conventional wisdom for explaining the intensity of Republican obstructionism toward President Barack Obama breaks down one of two ways: either it's a philosophical disagreement over the role of government or a desperate need to stay in line with a radicalized right-wing base. Not sure who he's been reading, but-- But there is another way to view the GOP political strategy, as neither principled nor reactive to the rantings of Tea Partiers, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. It is that the Republicans are following a playbook that has evolved over more than four decades, to regain power by sabotaging Democratic presidents. --this is what I've been seeing from pretty mainstream Democrats. It's certainly not some new revelation Parry came up with. Here's where he goes WAY off track: Having covered CIA destabilization campaigns in Third World countries, particularly Nicaragua, I was struck by the similarities. In the 1980s, the Reagan-Bush-41 administrations destroyed Nicaragua's leftist Sandinista revolution by systematically making the country ungovernable via a combination of economic dislocations, political/media propaganda, and paramilitary activities. Some *30,000* people died in that conflict. The notion that this was anything like what's been going on in the U.S. is just bonkers. By early fall 1994, the anti-Clinton hysteria was sweeping the country, though Democrats were mostly oblivious to its ferocity. A whole lot of people were oblivious to it. Clinton's approval ratings were evenly split at the time of the '94 election. While some Washington pundits see the Republicans as captives of the extremism on the Right - unable to dismount a dangerous tiger - the counter-analysis would be that the GOP and the Tea Party/militia crowd are just two parts of the same political movement, one inside the system and the other outside, but both working toward the same goal, a restoration of Republican/Right control of government. This *might* work if he hadn't included the militia movement, which shares some GOP goals but is strongly anti-government in general. And extreme fringe groups like the Hutaree, which he attempts to associate with the Republicans, are working for the destruction of government, period. Even the militia groups have backed away from the Hutaree. The militia groups are more concerned with protecting themselves *from* government than with either destroying government or electing any particular party to power. Also, there are plenty of Republicans who *are* trying to dismount the tiger of the Tea Party. I guess my biggest beef with this piece is his scare tactics, invoking a vision of widespread, uncontrolled violence and social breakdown a la Nicaragua, led or at least inspired by the GOP. That's just not even dimly in prospect. He needs to focus more on the spinelessness of the Democrats in Congress and the White House, who are letting the GOP largely get away with this appalling obstructionism, and make the point that the whole standoff, on both sides, is a function of increasing corporate control of the levers of power.
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I've seen that picture as well Rick, including aids with cigarettes. In 1977 on a conference with MMY during the summer siddhis course he called out the CIA on the actual phone call. Were on that call Rick? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? I can. Carter was a religious fundamentalist who had met with MMY while governor of Georgia. There used to be a photo of the meeting floating around. Allegedly, he was on his knees praying before the meeting. My sense was that he was praying for protection, but who knows? Anyway, during his presidential campaign, he told someone close to him that should he win, he'd do everything in his power to interfere with the TM movement. The person he said that to relayed the conversation to Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, wife of playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker), who attended TTC in Mallorca. She used to speak at TM conferences and go to residence courses and I got to know her. She told me what Carter's aid (or whoever he was) had told her.
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This will do Bhairitu Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! Accusing me of dummy like behavior when I expressed my opinion is pushing it and I can only come up with the conclusion of projection. You are not my parent, so knock it off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: And your definition of projection is? sgrayatlarge wrote: Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
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It was not a projection. I called you a dummy because you don't seem to know history. The history of this country from it's inception has been a battle between a bunch of materialistic fools who though it was their divine right to rule and an intellectual minority that didn't care to accumulate a lot of property (which is a responsibility) or to rule over other (also a responsibility). It therefore is a product of nature. The intellectual set will only take so much from the materialists and then it is war. To the intellectual set the materialists all look like a bunch of vain fools and dangerous ones at that. We have seen what they do to the world and don't like it. If you don't like my criticism then tough shit. sgrayatlarge wrote: This will do Bhairitu Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! Accusing me of dummy like behavior when I expressed my opinion is pushing it and I can only come up with the conclusion of projection. You are not my parent, so knock it off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: And your definition of projection is? sgrayatlarge wrote: Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
