[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 It is a war crime under international law for any government to 
 use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. This 
 is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's usage 
 is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).
 
 (and just because others break the law does not give the right to you 
 to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the dark 
 ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)
 
 OffWorld

Then, per that logic, using teams of yogic flyers, and vedic peace
pundits, must be a war crime, since using the totality of and the home
of all the laws of nature, as well as intense cohernece, is clearly
disproportionate force.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  It is a war crime under international law for any government to 
  use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. 
This 
  is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's 
usage 
  is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).
  
  (and just because others break the law does not give the right 
to you 
  to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the 
dark 
  ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)
  
  OffWorld
 
 Then, per that logic, using teams of yogic flyers, and vedic peace
 pundits, must be a war crime, since using the totality of and the 
home
 of all the laws of nature, as well as intense cohernece, is clearly
 disproportionate force.

Go back to the bottle, you're not ready for coherent argument yet. 
Try the tea-total again next week.

OffWorld







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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/24/06 1:40:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
 It is a war crime under international law for any government to 
 use  indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. 
This 
 is a  noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's 
usage 
 is of  this type (and the US in Iraq  also).
 
 
 
 
 
 And that is asinine. Wars are meant to be won, not  to be  a tit 
for tat. 
 Peace comes from complete and total victory over ones enemy.  
Equal exchange 
 makes a war go on indefinitely.

Ok, lets have the police in Detroit kill all the young black males 
and anyone else they suspect. They will win the war on crime that 
way.

You are an idiot.

You (and Rice and Bush etc.) will be the FIRST to complain when any 
country other than Isreal or USA does not follow international law. 
You will be the first to complain when China or Russia or Iran start 
to use your war criminal tactics. You will start shouting and 
grunting about how evil they are. Go back to the dark ages apeman.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is a war crime under international law for any government to 
 use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign. 
This 
 is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's 
usage 
 is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).
 
 (and just because others break the law does not give the right to 
you 
 to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the 
dark 
 ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)
 
 OffWorld


disproportionate force

This has got to be one of the stupidest phrases ever concocted. What 
exactly is a disproportionate use of force? What about all the 
Israeli civilians killed in rockets lobbed into Israel? What about 
all the suicide bombings in resorts and clubs? Civilians in Israel 
are hit with a car bomb. How are they supposed to respond, with 
another car bomb? What utter stupidity! 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   It is a war crime under international law for any government 
to 
   use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its 
campaign. 
 This 
   is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that 
Isreal's 
 usage 
   is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).
   
   (and just because others break the law does not give the right 
 to you 
   to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the 
 dark 
   ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)
   
   OffWorld
  
  Then, per that logic, using teams of yogic flyers, and vedic 
peace
  pundits, must be a war crime, since using the totality of and 
the 
 home
  of all the laws of nature, as well as intense cohernece, is 
clearly
  disproportionate force.
 

off_world
You are mixing wars and topics using a very large brush.

try to stay on topic or open a new thread, I'm sure Yahoo MB can 
afford it. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread larry.potter
 

Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. Its initial attack and 
its firing of over 1,000 katyusha rockets at northern Israeli cities 
are indefensible.

 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
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 Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. 

Judy, when are you going to lay off trying 
to make Curtis the bad guy?

Oooops. Wrong thread. Never mind.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/24/06 3:14:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, lets 
  have the police in Detroit kill all the young black males and anyone else 
  they suspect. They will win the war on crime that way.You are an 
  idiot.You (and Rice and Bush etc.) will be the FIRST to complain when 
  any country other than Isreal or USA does not follow international law. 
  You will be the first to complain when China or Russia or Iran start 
  to use your war criminal tactics. You will start shouting and grunting 
  about how evil they are. Go back to the dark ages 
  apeman.OffWorld

What africkin' moran Offworld. Only you would compare 
appropriate and inappropriatepolice action with a war of which the life a 
of a nation isat stake.And if you want to use that analogy, your 
damned right a policeman has the right and authority to use to use deadly force 
when confronted with deadly force and if the criminal fires a .22 caliber pistol 
at the cop, the copdoesn't have to put down his .45 and return fire with 
another .22. Grow up, put down the opium pipeand enter the RealWorld you 
crazy Frenchman.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/24/06 3:32:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  It is a war crime under international law for any government to  
  use "indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its campaign". This 
   is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that Isreal's 
  usage  is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).  
  (and just because others break the law does not give the right to you 
   to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the 
  dark  ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that) 
   OffWorlddisproportionate forceThis has got to 
  be one of the stupidest phrases ever concocted. What exactly is a 
  disproportionate use of force? What about all the Israeli civilians killed 
  in rockets lobbed into Israel? What about all the suicide bombings in 
  resorts and clubs? Civilians in Israel are hit with a car bomb. How are 
  they supposed to respond, with another car bomb? What utter stupidity! 
   

It is absolutely incredible that Hamas and Hezbollah et 
al are justified in using whatever means necessary to get what they want, 
complete destruction of Isarel , but Israel can not defend it's self against 
these attacks with any more force than isused against it. Total 
insanity!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter
 larry.potter@ wrote:
 
  Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. 
 
 Judy, when are you going to lay off trying 
 to make Curtis the bad guy?
 
 Oooops. Wrong thread. Never mind.

Just to make the point clear, I believe that one
can accurately say that the He started it first!
argument -- whether used on a children's playground,
a battlefield command center, or in the dark rooms
where darker people declare war -- is *always* used
by someone who is justifying prolonging the conflict.
The whole *point* of saying this is to get the other
person to say, Did not, and thus prolong the fight.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter
  larry.potter@ wrote:
  
   Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. 
  
  Judy, when are you going to lay off trying 
  to make Curtis the bad guy?
  
  Oooops. Wrong thread. Never mind.
 
 Just to make the point clear, I believe that one
 can accurately say that the He started it first!
 argument -- whether used on a children's playground,
 a battlefield command center, or in the dark rooms
 where darker people declare war -- is *always* used
 by someone who is justifying prolonging the conflict.
 The whole *point* of saying this is to get the other
 person to say, Did not, and thus prolong the fight.

snicker

Except that I didn't make that argument to Curtis,
Barry.

Loser.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter
  larry.potter@ wrote:
  
   Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. 
  
  Judy, when are you going to lay off trying 
  to make Curtis the bad guy?
  
  Oooops. Wrong thread. Never mind.
 
 Just to make the point clear, I believe that one
 can accurately say that the He started it first!
 argument -- whether used on a children's playground,
 a battlefield command center, or in the dark rooms
 where darker people declare war -- is *always* used
 by someone who is justifying prolonging the conflict.
 The whole *point* of saying this is to get the other
 person to say, Did not, and thus prolong the fight.

P.S.: If anybody was the instigator of the conflict
between me and Curtis, it was I, by challenging his
misrepresentations.

Which you even appear to confirm in the quote above,
When are you going to lay off...

Not to mention that it appears to be *you* who is
attempting to prolong the conflict between you and
me over my conflict with Curtis by sticking your
pitiful little jabs into unrelated threads, then
commenting on your own post (something you always
portray as pathetic when other people do it).

Barry, quit before you get any further behind.  I
think Off is right, you need to lay off the sauce.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/24/06 3:32:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 It is a war crime under international law for any government to 
   use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its 
campaign. 
 This  
  is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that 
Isreal's  
 usage 
  is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).
  
   (and just because others break the law does not give the right 
to 
 you  
  to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the  
 dark 
  ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)
   
  OffWorld
 
 
 disproportionate force
 
 This has got to  be one of the stupidest phrases ever concocted. 
What 
 exactly is a  disproportionate use of force? What about all the 
 Israeli civilians killed  in rockets lobbed into Israel? What 
about 
 all the suicide bombings in  resorts and clubs? Civilians in 
Israel 
 are hit with a car bomb. How are  they supposed to respond, with 
 another car bomb? What utter stupidity!  
 
 
  
 
 
 It is absolutely incredible that Hamas and Hezbollah et  al  are 
justified in 
 using whatever means necessary to get what they want,  complete 
destruction 
 of Isarel , but Israel can not defend it's self against  these 
attacks with any 
 more force than is used against it. Total  insanity!


well put.

UN's hypocrisy is amazing.

Hizbollah, can easily release the kidnapped soldiers and stop 
Lebanon's and Israel suffering
 
Wait, Do we really think Hizbollah really cares ?
they don't , that's why this obvious solution will hardly 
be contemplated by most people.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
It is a war crime under international law for any government 
 to 
use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its 
 campaign. 
  This 
is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that 
 Isreal's 
  usage 
is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).

(and just because others break the law does not give the 
right 
  to you 
to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to 
the 
  dark 
ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)

OffWorld
   
   Then, per that logic, using teams of yogic flyers, and vedic 
 peace
   pundits, must be a war crime, since using the totality of and 
 the 
  home
   of all the laws of nature, as well as intense cohernece, is 
 clearly
   disproportionate force.
  
 
 off_world
 You are mixing wars and topics using a very large brush.
 
 try to stay on topic or open a new thread, I'm sure Yahoo MB can 
 afford it..

The other guy said it, not me. Check your messages more carefully.

OffWorld





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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 
 Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. Its initial attack 
and 
 its firing of over 1,000 katyusha rockets at northern Israeli cities 
 are indefensible.

Israel invaded palestine 50 years ago, and has been surpressing and 
keeping the people in apartheid ever since. 

I know, I hitch hiked through palestine.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/24/06 3:14:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ok, lets  have the police in Detroit kill all the young black 
males 
 and anyone else  they suspect. They will win the war on crime that 
 way.
 
 You are an  idiot.
 
 You (and Rice and Bush etc.) will be the FIRST to complain when  
any 
 country other than Isreal or USA does not follow international 
law.  
 You will be the first to complain when China or Russia or Iran 
start  
 to use your war criminal tactics. You will start shouting and 
 grunting  about how evil they are. Go back to the dark ages  
apeman.
 
 OffWorld
 
 
 
 What a frickin' moran Offworld. Only you would compare  
appropriate and 
 inappropriate police action with a war of which the life a  of a 
nation is at 
 stake. And if you want to use that analogy, your  damned right a 
policeman has the 
 right and authority to use to use deadly force  when confronted 
with deadly 
 force and if the criminal fires a .22 caliber pistol  at the cop, 
the cop 
 doesn't have to put down his .45 and return fire with  
another .22. Grow up, put 
 down the opium pipe and enter the RealWorld you  crazy Frenchman.


You have no idea what you are talking about. Israel took Palestine 
in 1949 and made many of the Palestinians have to live in Lebanon. 
Then they made the ones left live in apharteid and squalor. I know, 
I hitch hiked through Israel and Palestine. You?

You are the moron. How is your other illegal war goingI 
mean ...Quagmire.  You were entirely wrong about that and you are 
entirely wrong about this. You cannot see the big picture. You do 
not underrstand the real world in the Middle East and like Bush you 
have a child's limited understanding of things.

OffWorld






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/24/06 6:09:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Israel 
  invaded palestine 50 years ago, and has been surpressing and keeping the 
  people in apartheid ever since. I know, I hitch hiked through 
  palestine.OffWorld

OFFWORLD you don't know jack Shiite! Palestine has never 
existed!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/24/06 7:26:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You have 
  no idea what you are talking about. Israel took Palestine in 1949 and made 
  many of the Palestinians have to live in Lebanon. Then they made the ones 
  left live in apharteid and squalor. I know, I hitch hiked through Israel 
  and Palestine. You?You are the moron. How is your other illegal war 
  goingI mean ...Quagmire. You were entirely wrong about that and you 
  are entirely wrong about this. You cannot see the big picture. You do 
  not underrstand the real world in the Middle East and like Bush you 
  have a child's limited understanding of 
things.

There never has been a Palestinian nation you 
fool.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 7/24/06 3:32:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  larry.potter@ writes:
  
   
  It is a war crime under international law for any government to 
use indiscriminate and disproportionate force in its 
 campaign. 
  This  
   is a noted war crime, and many analysts are saying that 
 Isreal's  
  usage 
   is of this type (and the US in Iraq also).
   
(and just because others break the law does not give the right 
 to 
  you  
   to break the law toothis is ignorance, and a return to the  
  dark 
   ages. Lynch mobs are soon accepted after that)

   OffWorld
  
  
  disproportionate force
  
  This has got to  be one of the stupidest phrases ever concocted. 
 What 
  exactly is a  disproportionate use of force? What about all the 
  Israeli civilians killed  in rockets lobbed into Israel? What 
 about 
  all the suicide bombings in  resorts and clubs? Civilians in 
 Israel 
  are hit with a car bomb. How are  they supposed to respond, with 
  another car bomb? What utter stupidity!  
  
  
   
  
  
  It is absolutely incredible that Hamas and Hezbollah et  al  are 
 justified in 
  using whatever means necessary to get what they want,  complete 
 destruction 
  of Isarel , but Israel can not defend it's self against  these 
 attacks with any 
  more force than is used against it. Total  insanity!
 
 
 well put.
 
 UN's hypocrisy is amazing.
 
 Hizbollah, can easily release the kidnapped soldiers and stop 
 Lebanon's and Israel suffering
  
 Wait, Do we really think Hizbollah really cares ?
 they don't , that's why this obvious solution will hardly 
 be contemplated by most people.


Do you think the response from Israel is about 2 imprisoned soldiers? By Irgun 
standards, 
Hezbollah has no choice but to kill them, BTW.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/24/06 7:26:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You have  no idea what you are talking about. Israel took 
Palestine 
 in 1949 and made  many of the Palestinians have to live in 
Lebanon. 
 Then they made the ones  left live in apharteid and squalor. I 
know, 
 I hitch hiked through Israel  and Palestine. You?
 
 You are the moron. How is your other illegal war  goingI 
 mean ...Quagmire. You were entirely wrong about that and you  are 
 entirely wrong about this. You cannot see the big picture. You do  
 not underrstand the real world in the Middle East and like Bush 
you  
 have a child's limited understanding of  things.
 
 
 
 There never has been a Palestinian nation you  fool.


ROFLMAO !

Redneck alert.

 The UN General Assembly adopted a plan to end the British Mandate 
for Palestine and partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab States on 
Nov. 29, 1947, passing UN  Resolution (GA 181).

OffWorld








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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
 larry.potter@ wrote:
 
   
  
  Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. Its initial 
attack 
 and 
  its firing of over 1,000 katyusha rockets at northern Israeli 
cities 
  are indefensible.
 
 Israel invaded palestine 50 years ago, and has been surpressing 
and 
 keeping the people in apartheid ever since. 
 
 I know, I hitch hiked through palestine.
 
 
You must be reading Iran's current president Mahmoud 
Ahmadinejad's book, he is known to re write history as of late.  
lol

maybe you should hitch hiked to Iran ,Ahmadinejad like zealos 
ignorant people.

Let us examine the truths here: 

1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation. 
There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs 
living in a region that historically has been called many things, 
including Palestine. 

2) Israel did not go to war against a Palestinian state and occupy 
its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six Arab countries at once. 
She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and won the so-called 
territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt. 

3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. It was 
certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why 
should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it? 
Because they have terrorists? 

4) Jerusalem, under the current Israeli control, is a free and open 
city. Israel, as a democracy, guarantees freedom of religion within 
its borders. Contrast this fact with areas that have come under 
Palestinian occupation. What percentage of Christians have left in 
recent years because they cannot stand the harassment and 
persecution? 

5) Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the 
region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and 
swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started 
migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in Cairo, Egypt. 
Did you know that? 

The belief that giving the Palestinians a state will bring peace is 
a delusion. 

Unless the Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they are 
given a state of their own, and no matter how many agreements and 
treaties they sign, they will always feel wronged, cheated, and 
forced into giving up what they now claim is theirs. They will 
continue to plot and look for an opportunity to destroy Israel in 
order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially the younger 
generation that has been brainwashed to hate the occupying enemy. 
Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no peace. 

Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to these 
truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a 
lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical that 
everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use 
the forum they have available to repeat these truths again and again 
until they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the Middle 
East









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/24/06 9:11:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There 
  never has been a Palestinian nation you fool.ROFLMAO 
  !Redneck alert.The UN General Assembly adopted a plan to end 
  the British Mandate for Palestine and partition Palestine into Jewish and 
  Arab States on Nov. 29, 1947, passing UN Resolution (GA 
  181).OffWorld

Offworld get an education! UN resolution 181 was rejected by the Arabs. 
They wanted all of the Palestinian region. In other words no Israel. Try reading 
this if you can.History of 
Israel and Palestine in VERY Easy To Understand Maps 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
  larry.potter@ wrote:
  

   
   Hizbollah was the instigator of this conflict. Its initial 
 attack 
  and 
   its firing of over 1,000 katyusha rockets at northern Israeli 
 cities 
   are indefensible.
  
  Israel invaded palestine 50 years ago, and has been surpressing 
 and 
  keeping the people in apartheid ever since. 
  
  I know, I hitch hiked through palestine.
  
  
 You must be reading Iran's current president Mahmoud 
 Ahmadinejad's book, he is known to re write history as of late.  
 lol
 
 maybe you should hitch hiked to Iran ,Ahmadinejad like zealos 
 ignorant people.
 
 Let us examine the truths here: 
 
 1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation. 
 There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs 
 living in a region that historically has been called many things, 
 including Palestine. 
 
 2) Israel did not go to war against a Palestinian state and occupy 
 its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six Arab countries at 
once. 
 She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and won the so-
called 
 territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt. 
 
 3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. It was 
 certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why 
 should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it? 
 Because they have terrorists? 
 
 4) Jerusalem, under the current Israeli control, is a free and 
open 
 city. Israel, as a democracy, guarantees freedom of religion 
within 
 its borders. Contrast this fact with areas that have come under 
 Palestinian occupation. What percentage of Christians have left in 
 recent years because they cannot stand the harassment and 
 persecution? 
 
 5) Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the 
 region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and 
 swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started 
 migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in Cairo, 
Egypt. 
 Did you know that? 
 
 The belief that giving the Palestinians a state will bring peace 
is 
 a delusion. 
 
 Unless the Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they 
are 
 given a state of their own, and no matter how many agreements and 
 treaties they sign, they will always feel wronged, cheated, and 
 forced into giving up what they now claim is theirs. They will 
 continue to plot and look for an opportunity to destroy Israel in 
 order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially the 
younger 
 generation that has been brainwashed to hate the occupying 
enemy. 
 Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no 
peace. 
 
 Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to 
these 
 truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a 
 lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical 
that 
 everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use 
 the forum they have available to repeat these truths again and 
again 
 until they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the 
Middle 
 East



Lol , ridiculous, you have been brain-washed by the fundies.

The British Mandate for Palestine:
The Balfour Declaration - In November 1917, before Britain had 
conquered Jerusalem and the area to be known as Palestine, Britain 
issued the Balfour Declaration The declaration stated Britain's 
support for the creation of a Jewish national home in Palestine, 
without violating the civil and religious rights of the existing non-
Jewish communities. The declaration was the result of lobbying by 
the small British Zionist movement...but it was motivated by British 
strategic considerations. 

After the war, the League of Nations divided much of the Ottoman 
Empire into mandated territories...The British were anxious to keep 
Palestine away from the French
http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: War Crime = indiscriminate and disproportionate force

2006-07-24 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/24/06 9:23:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
   Israel invaded palestine 50 years ago, and has been surpressing 
  and  keeping the people in apartheid ever since.   
  I know, I hitch hiked through palestine. You must be reading 
  Iran's current president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "book", he is known to 
  re write history as of late. lolmaybe you should hitch hiked to 
  Iran ,Ahmadinejad like zealos ignorant people.Let us examine the 
  truths here: 1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian 
  nation. There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs 
  living in a region that historically has been called many things, 
  including "Palestine." 2) Israel did not go to war against a 
  Palestinian state and occupy its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six 
  Arab countries at once. She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and 
  won the so-called territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan 
  and Egypt. 3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. 
  It was certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why 
  should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it? 
  Because they have terrorists? 4) Jerusalem, under the current 
  Israeli control, is a free and open city. Israel, as a democracy, 
  guarantees freedom of religion within its borders. Contrast this fact with 
  areas that have come under Palestinian occupation. What percentage of 
  Christians have left in recent years because they cannot stand the 
  harassment and persecution? 5) Most Arabs living in Palestine 
  today are not indigenous to the region. It was not until after the Jews 
  had changed deserts and swamps into a productive and thriving land that 
  the Arabs started migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in 
  Cairo, Egypt. Did you know that? The belief that giving the 
  Palestinians a state will bring peace is a delusion. Unless the 
  Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they are given a state of 
  their own, and no matter how many agreements and treaties they sign, they 
  will always feel wronged, cheated, and forced into giving up what they now 
  claim is theirs. They will continue to plot and look for an opportunity to 
  destroy Israel in order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially 
  the younger generation that has been brainwashed to hate the "occupying 
  enemy." Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no 
  peace. Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to 
  these truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a 
  lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical that 
  everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use the 
  forum they have available to repeat these truths again and again until 
  they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the Middle 
  East 
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Larry , you can't tell OffWorld anything, after all, he hitch hiked thru 
"Palestine" and knows it all.
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