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I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million loss (see posted tax
returns) is motivating this last extraction of funds before the
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SNIP
I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million
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Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi
Im enjoying
these comments, Kirk. We gotta save this Brigante boy.
If this jelly jar is callingyou
stickyeven in jest then he needs his lid screwed a bit tighter.
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You can still feeltremendous gratitude toward him for all the
blessings he brought you, andforgive his shortcomings if that's what they
are.---Not to mention that
his name will be erased from your mind by next reincarnation
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On May 1, 2005, at 11:28 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
Guru Dev sent MMY to
enlighten a very very ignorant world, and in that process, MMY may
have to not stick to the facts at every turn in order to successfully
accomplish his important and divinely-mandated mission.
Where is your evidence to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to say that everyone has to become
disillusioned with his guru in order to graduate. Maharishi
certainly
didn't.
Do we know this to be true...? :-D
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Is the correlation really as tight as you assume?
Could TM be as great as it
is yet MMY have a few screws loose?
That's the amazing thing: MMY is actually greater than
any assumption a mind could have and he has more than
a few screws loose. Any
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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That's not the point which I felt you might find
disillusioning.
It's your
conception of MMY which might be in for some
disturbing revisions.
Yes, beautiful point.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Not to say that everyone has to become
disillusioned with his guru in order to
graduate. Maharishi
certainly
Any mental story, satvic or tamasic, is just horse
shit. We hold onto stories because it gives the mind a
sense of control. What would happen if we let go of
all our stories? Probably we'd explode like those
toads I read about!
-Peter
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That's sort of like
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That's not the point which I felt you might find
disillusioning.
It's your
On May 2, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
Any mental story, satvic or tamasic, is just horse
shit. We hold onto stories because it gives the mind a
sense of control. What would happen if we let go of
all our stories? Probably we'd explode like those
toads I read about!
Observe how
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Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:
That's not the point which I felt
no difference other than on the level ofpersonality. We just have a
lot of concepts regardingwho can and who can not be awake.
-Peter
Sure, and when one realizes this in themself also then of what use
are those others? They become rather comedic.
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no difference other than on the level of
personality. We just have a lot of concepts
regarding
who can and who can not be awake.
-Peter
Sure, and when one realizes this in themself
also then of what use are those others? They become
rather
on 5/1/05 11:41 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MMY is a great saint, but even if you don't think so, you should
recall what MMY said when people complained about the behavior of TM
teachers: Even a sick man can open a health food store. TM is a
mechanical technique that does
on 5/2/05 6:43 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to say that everyone has to become
disillusioned with his guru in order to graduate. Maharishi
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi
on 5/2/05 7:49 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other hand it's said that the guru is a mold for the mind and so it's very important to choose the right mold because if not then the mind becomes imprinted and one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/2/05 6:43 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. it just appears to be. It is more likely that he is
disillusioned with
himself.
Ah, you think he sees a difference? So I guess maybe you do too?
Sounds
on 5/2/05 10:32 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/2/05 6:43 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. it just appears to be. It is more likely that he is
disillusioned with
himself.
Ah, you think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/2/05 10:32 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think he saw a difference between himself and Jennifer, or
Judith?
Maybe not. I really don't know.
Yeah me neither, I am not paid to think; only to
on 5/2/05 10:46 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/2/05 10:32 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think he saw a difference between himself and Jennifer, or
Judith?
Maybe not. I really
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/2/05 10:46 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah me neither, I am not paid to think; only to not know :-)
Hey, who's paying you? Can I get in on that gig?
*lol* You just did.
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Bob Brigante wrote:
snip
This possibility that the TM movement will not be successful in my
lifetime is not disillusioning -- because the cycle of epochs of
high and low consciousness are natural phenomena, just like the sun
being seen in various positions in the sky and not at all --
Now what
would a dope smoking, alcohol swilling, onionmunching chef from New Orleans
know aboutenlightenment? ;-)-Peter---I know that I can make you savour the six tastes more than your
average movement syncophanticook. But you're right, I would probably just add to
your vasanas.
To
This is a
key point. Whatever mistakes M may have made in his personal ormanagerial
life don't invalidate the benefits of TM. Conversely, theeffectiveness of TM
doesn't necessarily imply that M is faultless.---I think we could all forgive Maharishi any sort of wrong except
that what we
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi
Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a
week. Guess the real deep connections are just not coming anymore.
heheh.
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--- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what would a dope smoking, alcohol swilling,
onion
munching chef from New Orleans know about
enlightenment? ;-)
-Peter
---I know that I can make you savour the six tastes
more than your average movement syncophanticook. But
you're right, I
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi
on 5/2/05 11:22 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the real deep connections are just not coming anymore. Heheh
No, they are. I mean it. I think abstinence is good for you. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/2/05 11:22 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the real deep
connections are
just not coming anymore. Heheh
No, they are. I mean it. I think abstinence is
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no clue about Maharishi
Oh, ok. Yeah, haven't smoked in a week. Guess the
real deep connections are just not coming anymore.
Heheh
No, they are. I mean it. I think abstinence is good for you. I
remember about a year ago you were on mushrooms one
RJ, could
you elaborate on the tantric writing style you were/sre using.did you make
it up or such thing exist?---Not sure I get your meaning. I write. Because it feels good and
as most of the arts they come out of the poor trying to lift up the mud and give
it shape. Emulating Promethius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The traditional reason that God has not been sold is that that
prevents the poor from buying and therefore crushes hope. To develop
this attitute that all that's needed is the high bid to participate
further pushes
oh ok, I see now.
for the records the other day someone noted that you write in a
tantric style, but I guess it was just a tease on his part. anyway I
thought that such style really exists and that I'm not familiar with
it, I believed it to be some non-linear writing and it was
interesting to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a key point. Whatever mistakes M may have made in his
personal or
managerial life don't invalidate the benefits of TM. Conversely, the
effectiveness of TM doesn't necessarily imply that M is faultless.
---I
JohnY wrote:
I've always thought that the most disturbing or hope crushing thing
that Maharishi has done it to take the devotional impulse (and the
innocent desire to help) of teachers and use it against them.
Please elaborate; I don't see how devotional impulses
in TM teachers have been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
JohnY wrote:
I've always thought that the most disturbing or hope crushing thing
that Maharishi has done it to take the devotional impulse (and the
innocent desire to help) of teachers and use it against them.
I recall Maharishi saying at some point that he could enlighten one
person very quickly or the entire world with some time, more slowly.
Given that the conventional arrangement on Earth is to have space-
time locality with one's Master in order to evolve quickly, and
given that Maharishi can
it all to
better days.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: still no
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oh ok, I see now.for the records the other day someone
noted that you
To your point Alex, I recall Maharishi discussing how impressions on
the nervous system (and subsequent attachment) are made as
consciousness grows more refined:
initially rock scratching rock, leaving a deep hard impression taking
some time to erode, gives way to stick through sand, leaving a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I recall Maharishi saying at some point that he could enlighten one
person very quickly or the entire world with some time, more slowly.
Given that the conventional arrangement on Earth is to have space-
time
On May 2, 2005, at 2:12 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
big merciless clip
So what appears as Maharishi abusing the devotee is actually an
encouragement to evolve maximally.
sigh Time for a TMO 12-step group guys (if one hasn't already been
created).
I gotta tell you, that last post scared me.
Yeah, got it. This is just what I personally went through and observed
when considering whether to become a TM teacher or not. I chose not
to, seeing early on that I couldn't exist comfortably in the TMO for
very long.
For those apparently understanding Maharishi and divining his thinking
on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million loss (see posted tax
returns) is motivating this last extraction of funds before the final
pullout to India and points east (naw, that's too conspiratorial)
JohnY
where
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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where are the tax returns posted? which entity is it??
http://www.guidestar.org/
Alex
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Hey, I thought you were in Scotland.
on 5/2/05 1:55 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the $336 million loss (see posted tax
returns) is motivating this last extraction of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, I thought you were in Scotland.
Just about to leave. gonna install myself as raja. no wimpy beige
robes, fake gold crowns and pathetic new age mall stores -- I'm plan
on being in full braveheart get up with plans
From: Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Both are true. MMY is obviously the victim of nasty and stupid
people
who the cat has dragged into the TM movement. But MMY is also
cosmic
intelligence, who as Tat Wala Baba said, knows everything:
http://www.yogiphotos.com/chap6b.html
It will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so basically MMY knows everything and whatever objection /
criticism is kali yuga. did I get right? :)
BobBrigantewrote:
You're doing OK, so far. I might point out that I am not saying that
MMY is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante
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so basically MMY knows everything and whatever
objection /
criticism is kali yuga. did I get right? :)
That's sort of like saying the 'facts' are all there in the Bible, Bob.
Sal
On May 1, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
What I have posted has absolutely nothing to do with faith. The
facts are there in MMY's writing The Divine Plan.
on 5/1/05 7:12 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm just curious why you believe this with so much faith Bob. I
mean, why is this belief important, to you, to anyone, and what
difference in your life would it
on 5/1/05 10:11 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That's sort of like saying the 'facts' are all there in the Bible,
Bob.
Sal
On May 1, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
What I have posted
on 5/1/05 10:18 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
What I have posted has absolutely nothing to do with faith. The
facts are there in MMY's writing The Divine Plan.
You mean anything MMY says is fact and not something to have faith
in, or
doubt?
My confidence in what MMY says is based on my personal experience
of 37 years of TM. It's similar to my confidence that when I push the
little button to cross the sidewalk, the cars will come to a stop, and I
can proceed through the crosswalk.
Don't be coming to New
Orleans. They
Give the man his weight in gold,
in Raams.
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on 5/1/05 10:18 PM, Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/1/05 10:18 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
What I have posted has absolutely nothing to do with faith.
The
facts are there in MMY's writing The Divine Plan.
You mean anything
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on 5/1/05 10:25 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, but when you aren't transcending don't the limitations that you have self imposed on your mind just sort of get old? Nobody needs for you to believe in these things
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My confidence in what MMY says is based on my personal experience
of
37 years of TM. It's similar to my confidence that when I push the
little button to cross the sidewalk, the cars will come to a stop,
and I can
on 5/1/05 10:31 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a tautology for you. You linked me back to the message to
which I
just responded.
*
No, I linked to the reply which I made to the message to which you
responded. I haven't called you an idiot for a few
on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
I've seen MMY stumble walking down stairs, and certainly stuff like
appearances at the Beach Boys concert (to give a TM lecture in front
of kids who were waiting to hear the Boys perform) is a mistake, but
these are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
I've seen MMY stumble walking down stairs, and certainly stuff
like
appearances at the Beach Boys concert (to give a TM lecture in
front
on 5/1/05 11:09 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
There's just no possibility that you are going to get what I am
saying, because you are in the grip of factors that do not allow the
blossoming of bliss consciousness,
Then why do I experience so much bliss?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/1/05 11:09 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
There's just no possibility that you are going to get what I am
saying, because you are in the grip of factors that do not allow
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob-zoid,
A point that I don't recall ever having been
made in rebuttal to your worldview is that
you keep coming back to the present tense
you use when mentioning that Maharishi's
a monk, unfamiliar with
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Bob-zoid,
A point that I don't recall ever having been
made in rebuttal to your worldview is that
you keep coming back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's the story, like many others, of
Maharishi being shown VCRs years ago
to determine a standard for the Movement
to use. He drifted from the business
discussion when he asked to have the inner
mechanics
On Apr 29, 2005, at 2:32 AM, at_man_and_brahman wrote:
I don't think those things interest him, but
he has developed an understanding of business
principles, particularly branding, that would be
the envy of any Harvard MBA, .
I'm not shoulding upon him--pause for laughs--
but rather
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wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob
Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's the story, like many others, of
Maharishi being shown VCRs years ago
to determine a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One interesting note here. The Veda Vision crew: Eric Sandell, Flash
Pflaumer, and others spent over $1 million in their Livingston Manor
workshop trying to develop the first VCR. They did have a working
model, but it
On Apr 29, 2005, at 1:25 PM, at_man_and_brahman wrote:
As I said, that's just the way I heard the story.
I didn't embellish it.
Yes, I understood that. I was not really referring to you specifically,
but as a general trend over time.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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on 4/27/05 7:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My friend Charlie Gleuck (Dr. Gleuck's son) went to the Hartford
concert.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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SNIP
Also, Bob - I think your next statement will be your usual claim
that actually, MMY did/
does not want the TMO to succeed because we are not ready for such
sattva. You often
state that MMY keeps these goofy
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