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A candidate's announcement that he or she practiced TM, specifically, would tend to be a negative to the religious right and evangelicals generally. That's a very significant voting bloc in this country. The science-oriented among the millennials would likely be skeptical of a meditation practice associated with woo-woo like Yogic Flying or claiming widespread positive results from meditating in a group. BTW, if I were you, I wouldn't paint large groups of religious people as "rabid." Really doesn't look good coming from you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the way to the White House the identification of voter blocs becomes key to the work. In which blocs now would a candidate admitting to meditating be a negative? A positive? Yesterday in Fairfield, Iowa at a small shop we had a grocery bag stuffed with a X-ian flier insert that was all about TM being religion, cult and dangerous. Mindfulness practice maybe gets a pass and is not? Voter bloc, how much could confrontational conservative X-ians as a particular vote bloc matter anymore to a candidate now admitting they meditate for their own well-being? A 'meditating' candidate might be a plus to millennials. Can millennials and Gen-X and Y outweigh the shrinking rabid religious X-ian bloc in America? Would it be safe for any of the candidates to let it be known they meditate? Even 'hip'? ..Maybe in the next election cycle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign? Yet, recommending ‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best practices' of the AMA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
I'd be surprised if you weren't well aware, Doug, that mindfulness is widely seen and advertised as secular rather than Buddhist, a psychological rather than a religious practice, so your question is puzzling. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign? Yet, recommending ‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best practices' of the AMA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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On the way to the White House the identification of voter blocs becomes key to the work. In which blocs now would a candidate admitting to meditating be a negative? A positive? Yesterday in Fairfield, Iowa at a small shop we had a grocery bag stuffed with a X-ian flier insert that was all about TM being religion, cult and dangerous. Mindfulness practice maybe gets a pass and is not? Voter bloc, how much could confrontational conservative X-ians as a particular vote bloc matter anymore to a candidate now admitting they meditate for their own well-being? A 'meditating' candidate might be a plus to millennials. Can millennials and Gen-X and Y outweigh the shrinking rabid religious X-ian bloc in America? Would it be safe for any of the candidates to let it be known they meditate? Even 'hip'? ..Maybe in the next election cycle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign? Yet, recommending ‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best practices' of the AMA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign? Yet, recommending ‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best practices' of the AMA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. Might have helped make him a better salesman. Hillary sucks as a salesman. Maybe because she is a saleswoman. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. Good one. I've thought of that also. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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Actually, people are avoiding trump properties and merchandise like the plague now. During the recent IMF Conference in DC, his was the only high-end hotel in town with discounted rooms. Some salesman. Mark Cuban says *Bernie Madoff* has a better brand than trump does. Expect to see his suits, ties, and caps at The Dollar Store, soon. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. Might have helped make him a better salesman. Hillary sucks as a salesman. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. Might have helped make him a better salesman. Hillary sucks as a salesman. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would /actually/ have been shooting people on 5^th Avenue. *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mailto:authfriend@...>> wrote : *I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mailto:awoelflebater@...>> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...>> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
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Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , mailto:authfriend@...> > wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , mailto:awoelflebater@...> > wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> > wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. I love that. Hilarious, Feste. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
Seems like a natural enough POV in a town with MUM and so many doing TM, but everyone begins TM from their own place. The other thing is, given Trump's expressed behavior, Melania seems very much the enabler. Despite her rote denial, "...that's not the man I know...", she certainly seems much less than shocked with these dozen women coming forward, not even addressing it, and focused more on the lame justification of, "boys will be boys, and he was egged on by Billy, and he didn't know his mic was on...". I doubt anything can get through to trump anyway, and she is certainly not an 'agent of change' for him. Quite the opposite, it appears. She has everything to gain, and nothing to lose, by encouraging his dictatorial fantasies and coarse behavior. The other option is he crashes and burns (likely) and starts a cable channel. Not quite as glamorous... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say?
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
yes well Mellania is doing TM but so is Bill Clinton , in fact if you read the emails it sounds like that whole class of people may be initiated but that doesn't say how regular they are or what there perspective on it or committment is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
According to you, Doug, one of the most devoted, committed long-term TMers in the world, Bevan Morris, was ousted from his position as president of MUM because he was so inept at managing the university. We also know that several long-term TMers who post regularly to this group have a penchant for coughing up false and malicious tales they've swallowed--without a hint of critical thinking--from right-wingers desperate to destroy Hillary Clinton. Why on *earth* should we think Melania's meditation practice (if indeed she has one--we don't know that for a fact) would have enough of a beneficial effect on her husband to make it reasonable to ignore the hundreds of reasons he's utterly unfit for the presidency? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say?
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
Vote for Trump because Melania is (perhaps) a meditator? NO, NO, and NO again! You ask what common sense says. Here it is: Look at the candidates and what they stand for and how they conduct themselves, not at what their spouses supposedly do. Trump would be unfit for office even if Melania meditated 24/7. He is beyond hope or redemption -- a dreadful character who has already done much harm and may do even more before he is finished. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say?
