Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-29 Thread Denise Evans
..purchase educational materials, etc.  That's O.K.   --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:29 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at initiations,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-29 Thread Rick Archer
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) stating that you would lose your badge if you helped a saint. I heard recently that in the office where you go to get your dome badge, there is a sign stating that it’s OK

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-28 Thread Denise Evans
a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 3:31 PM   I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) stating that you would lose your badge if you helped a saint. I heard recently

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Pall Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer r

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denise Evans Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge I don't pretend to understandbut how does one

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Archer
I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) stating that you would lose your badge if you helped a saint. I heard recently that in the office where you go to get your dome badge, there is a sign stating that it's OK to visit saints, but not OK to help them in any way.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) stating that you would lose your badge if you helped a saint. I heard recently that in the office where you go to get your dome badge, there is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-24 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:22 AM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: I guess SSRS is a fascist group even though SS doesn't have a Cherman sounding name like Erhard. Tom, I just looked at my watch, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-24 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: Whoa Tommyji, I think you are way overreacting. Other than your racist ramblings on Indians at SSRS, I thought you were doing OK with SSRS there and now you call it a fascist group - so I think Steve is totally justified

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Vaj
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I get the feeling you fell for the placebo and are still trying to convince everyone else it's still pure Pfizer. But then that's always been the dilemma of the awakened TM teacher or die-hard TM lover: can they stop projecting some scripts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Vaj
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I think everything to do with Werner extremely problematic, and the effect on the mind of his seminars (now called Landmark Education) mystically inhibiting and even dissociative. A major psychiatric hospital I know of began suggesting in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:41 PM, emptybill wrote: Effort ... isn't that what TM-Sidhi practice finally amounts to in reality? Prayatna is the actual word Patanjai uses. Not everyone had authentic Patanjali instruction. Apparently you're yet another one. Any meditation the relies on alambanas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-22 Thread Vaj
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:21 AM, sparaig wrote: So setting oneself up to hop around is fabricated and therefore not spontaneous. OK. fine lines there, you must admit. Meditation is a subtle kind of thing. So such fine distinctions are just the nature of the territory.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 8:50 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Hey, Ravi Yogi, I'm new to FFL. I probably should read some of your other posts before responding to this one. However, I just want to say it: You really know how to hurt a guy. I am sure you're right that I am an egoist, but could you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote: It is worth pointing out that as far as I remember Ravi has since said on two different occasions that his entire interview was a put-on, and that he was taking advantage of Rick's naivete. I don't remember the exact messages in which he said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:08 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: You don't acknowledge self realization as anything special anyway, so you can't have it both ways, can't push against something that according to you does not exist. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:35 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: I am thinking it was quite brilliant for MMY to make the definition of Unity Consciousness one such that our bodies and minds have complete and total control over the world around us, so that we can manipulate it at will.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:11 PM, sparaig wrote: Dunno where he got the idea. Others on this list have reported him as saying the same thing. maskedzebra just confirmed what I said in his previous message. Whether or not his claim was valid, isn't the point. The point is that within the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:36 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: No, Lawson, I very much did need to validate it for myself. But you see, Unity Consciousness validates itself—I wrote 11 books about this: either about Unity Consciousness directly, or about world events as seen through the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:11 PM, sparaig wrote: Dunno where he got the idea. Others on this list have reported him as saying the same thing. maskedzebra just confirmed what I said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:47 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: [...] Of course it could be both. ANd I don't see much distinction, if any, since MMY also said that CC was required to be stabilized before GC or UC could be stabilized. One

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:51 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: [...] One is technically a fabrication, the other is purely spontaneous. That's actually a HUGE

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:59 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: Not a single person in my lifetime has demonstrated impeccably and infallibly that such a ground of all being even exists. That is, if I am to go by his/her claim to become the embodiment of such an irreducible level of reality. In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: But I knew it was Dick Cavett's show. Till I didn't. So that is what I was googling. And stupid Google searched what I asked for instead of what meant. Stupid Google! Curtis, I remember that show~~clearly. And it was totally

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:57 AM, authfriend wrote: He went on to ask about MMY's age and his diet and his health, and then MMY, knowing the interview was almost over, segued neatly into his closing pitch, which King let him finish without interruption. The complete transcript--the Michael Dean

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:45 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:31 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Thanks for finding this Alex, I mistakenly thought this was from the Dick Cavett

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread Vaj
On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Eh, so, make a choice: help a saint and don't go to the dome, or, don't help a saint and go to the dome. Which is more important and why? [the question of should this be a criterion for keeping your dome badge is another question

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of merudanda Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge Dear Rick, sounds like a silly question for you, may

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Rick Archer wrote: You and I and others could offer our definitions, but what MUM means by this is that Amma is coming here in about a week, and they don’t want anyone putting up posters, etc. Several people who had offered their support and who have been

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jpgillam Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:00 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick