On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@...>
wrote:
You don't acknowledge self realization as anything special
anyway, so you can't have it both ways, can't push against
something that according to you does not exist. And if that's your
game, you're a troll - not that there's anything wrong with it.
May I correct your assumption here? I do acknowledge self
realization as "special". It does exist�as a subjective
experience supported and sustained by those Vedic gods. In this
sense it can even be said to have an objective existence. It's
just that it is not Reality's (God's?) idea of something that
represents what Reality (or God) is. I convinced all the persons
(they had to be doing TM to get this, however) who were around me
for ten years that I was in Unity Consciousness. And I believe to
this day, that I WAS in such a state of consciousness. It's just
that at one point I realized very definitively and in an
uncontradictible [if there be such a word] way that my state of
consciousness did NOT embody reality. It was a very remarkable
and convincing hallucination.
MMY basically said that unless you can perform the siddhis at any
time, you can't really lay claim to being in Unity.
Direct quote please?
Advaita Vedanta, the darshana associated with Unity, does not make
any such claim.