On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:47 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > [...] >>> Of course it could be both. ANd I don't see much distinction, if any, since >>> MMY also said that CC was required to be stabilized before GC or UC could >>> be stabilized. >> >> >> One is effortful, one is effortless. >> > Well, siddhis practice is only effortful in comparison to TM practice and > even that is open to debate... > >> One is technically a fabrication, the other is purely spontaneous. That's >> actually a HUGE difference, no? >> > > And in my experience, and most others I have talked to, one doesn't "attain" > even the "flavor" of a sutra through effort.
In TM-speak you'd really be talkin' about "at the level of impulse" - at least that subtle?
