OT: To Malone
Malone, I am very sorry that I offended you. I was just running my mouth, not thinking that what I was saying was offensive. It takes A LOT to offend me, so, sometimes I don't realize that I am being obnoxious. :( It's just a shield I guess I have due to life happening. Anyway, I am sorry about your brother in law, I do know how you feel. My brother in law is gone too, just a few years ago. Well, actually, he is sitting in a nursing facility, wearing a diaper and choking on his tongue @ 35 years old. He is slowly dying of Huntington's Corea, and my family is very upset about it, to say the least. And I do not condem people who hunt for survival, but I do have to say that I think they are few far between. But that has just been my experience w/ hunters, which by any means is not worldly. It is a shame that people have to live hand to mouth in this, the richest country in the world, but that is another off topic that could go on.and on.and on... And as far as off topic converstaions here, some of the best cat knowledge I have received has been the off topic With a bit off comic relief as far as some of the cats. I am fortunate enough to have a great vet who is a feline specialist, and who also has 13 of his own felv+ cats, so, there is not that is posted here about felv. that I do not already know. Interferon? been using it for 6 yrs. Lysine? same thing. I am supposed to start a new study w/ a new drug that my vet has asked me to participate in (well, my cats anyway, but hey! Maybe it will cure me.. :) it is a new immune booster. I will let the group know what happens when if this transpires. Also will keep you all up to date on my potential new arrivel, from Nevada, the FLOCK cat, if I get one. have a great day! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
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I have not heard anything. I love Best Friends and they are probably the most equipped of anyone in the country to treat FELV cats. It is my understanding they have one who is 20. They can get all the latest, most expensive, experimental stuff, because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, have tens of thousands of volunteers, etc. Because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, I don't feel bad at all about not contributing to them financially. I keep my money closer to home. I do totally support their mission, though. Some people I hear do not like them because they are too huggy feely. They have a committment to keep things positive, deal with people always on a positive level, and don't do things like show the public barrels of dead animals as PSAs. This is why they are a 24 million dollar a year business. I am trying hard to emulate them, but it is a lot more difficult when you take in about 1% of the money they do and have thousands fewer volunteers, but I'll get there one day:) On 8/19/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of these cats are testing felv+. http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17003.html My vet his wife are getting the black white one that you see in the photo. Cold hearted me that also hates myself, is getting one too. I asked her to just pick one that was fairly mellow, due to Papillon is quite the Top Cat w/ my group. Has anyone who is working in the rescue arena heard anything else about this save? Anymore details? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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But there's a big difference between hunting for food and making a fur coat for someone who is not nomadic and living on the range in Nunavut, Canada. There's no difference as far as the animal is concerned. Either way, their life is taken. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT Deer Hunters Malone, I have to admit that I too was not happy reading the rant on hunters. I kind of sometimes feel like vegans/vegetarians and meat-eaters can be likened to Christians and Muslims. Both think they are right. Members of both can be very passionate about their beliefs without tolerating the beliefs of the other group, to the point where they get downright aggressive. I have seen here on this site in the past verbal attacks on people who eat meat in general; not anyone specific. It makes you afraid to say anything for fear of being judged. I am not a vegan and probably will never be. And I am still a good person, and committing no sin by eating meat. So I do not appreciate the verbal attacks and like you, think that this site is not an appropriate place to do such a thing. All it serves to do is alienate people, who as you said, are only trying to help their cats with FeLV. It makes me think of PETA, and the horrible things that some of their members do in the name of protecting animal rights, like throwing food on someone high profile in public to humiliate them because they are wearing a fur coat. Sad, sad, sad. I will never agree with the senseless killing of any animal, via hunting only for sport or to make fur coats. But there's a big difference between hunting for food and making a fur coat for someone who is not nomadic and living on the range in Nunavut, Canada. And people will never listen to an opposing viewpoint if they are being attacked; they only get defensive and shut down, so the battle is lost before it is even started really. I am really sorry about your brother-in-law, and sorry that you were offended by the post. It would have hurt and angered me too to read that had my brother-in-law died the same way. Thanks for speaking up, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 2:57:02 PM Subject: Re: OT Deer Hunters How judgmental we can be! My family has hunted all my life-it is a food source that we value and are thankful for. By the way my brother-in-law died 2 years ago this deer season of a massive heart attack. He was making sure that there would be food on the table for his children that winter. Nice to know that you feel he deserved that because he killed a food source no different than a cat killing a mouse. _ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48251/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhos ting/?p=PASSPORTPLUS IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Well, they (BF) do very good things, and if huggy feely works, then great, whatever works. I know they very qualified to care for felv+ cats, but I also wonder how many of the 400 are felv+? And I wonder how many they could responsibly absorb? I am sure they know, they seem to REALLY have their act togehter, lots of good folks on the ground level. Last thing I need is another felv+ kitty right now, especially since we are to start testing my 12 limbo fosters this week. (Everyone please wish them well, paws crossed, they have been studying hard, because they have heard they are getting tested. I just gentley explain that this is not a pass or fail test..) But, if I have to take another felv+ cat, even from Nevada, it would be ok, the Cat Gods will be there for me I am sure. We'll figure it all out. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... I have not heard anything. I love Best Friends and they are probably the most equipped of anyone in the country to treat FELV cats. It is my understanding they have one who is 20. They can get all the latest, most expensive, experimental stuff, because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, have tens of thousands of volunteers, etc. Because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, I don't feel bad at all about not contributing to them financially. I keep my money closer to home. I do totally support their mission, though. Some people I hear do not like them because they are too huggy feely. They have a committment to keep things positive, deal with people always on a positive level, and don't do things like show the public barrels of dead animals as PSAs. This is why they are a 24 million dollar a year business. I am trying hard to emulate them, but it is a lot more difficult when you take in about 1% of the money they do and have thousands fewer volunteers, but I'll get there one day:) On 8/19/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of these cats are testing felv+. http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17003.html My vet his wife are getting the black white one that you see in the photo. Cold hearted me that also hates myself, is getting one too. I asked her to just pick one that was fairly mellow, due to Papillon is quite the Top Cat w/ my group. Has anyone who is working in the rescue arena heard anything else about this save? Anymore details? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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They had an adoption day this weekend to which they brought 50 cats and 41 of them were adopted. They also raised $900. So I don't think they will need to absorb all that many into their main facilities. They do know what they can handle, I'm told they get 200 calls a week for help, and turn down many of them (of course, who could take them all?) http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17736.html They tend to construct temporary facilities for huge efforts like this. There was a bunny rescue of even greater size a few years ago, and I believe they got ALL the bunnies adopted. I'm not sure of the 41 adopted cats FELV status. On 8/20/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they (BF) do very good things, and if huggy feely works, then great, whatever works. I know they very qualified to care for felv+ cats, but I also wonder how many of the 400 are felv+? And I wonder how many they could responsibly absorb? I am sure they know, they seem to REALLY have their act togehter, lots of good folks on the ground level. Last thing I need is another felv+ kitty right now, especially since we are to start testing my 12 limbo fosters this week. (Everyone please wish them well, paws crossed, they have been studying hard, because they have heard they are getting tested. I just gentley explain that this is not a pass or fail test..) But, if I have to take another felv+ cat, even from Nevada, it would be ok, the Cat Gods will be there for me I am sure. We'll figure it all out. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... I have not heard anything. I love Best Friends and they are probably the most equipped of anyone in the country to treat FELV cats. It is my understanding they have one who is 20. They can get all the latest, most expensive, experimental stuff, because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, have tens of thousands of volunteers, etc. Because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, I don't feel bad at all about not contributing to them financially. I keep my money closer to home. I do totally support their mission, though. Some people I hear do not like them because they are too huggy feely. They have a committment to keep things positive, deal with people always on a positive level, and don't do things like show the public barrels of dead animals as PSAs. This is why they are a 24 million dollar a year business. I am trying hard to emulate them, but it is a lot more difficult when you take in about 1% of the money they do and have thousands fewer volunteers, but I'll get there one day:) On 8/19/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of these cats are testing felv+. http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17003.html My vet his wife are getting the black white one that you see in the photo. Cold hearted me that also hates myself, is getting one too. I asked her to just pick one that was fairly mellow, due to Papillon is quite the Top Cat w/ my group. Has anyone who is working in the rescue arena heard anything else about this save? Anymore details? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Also, I definitely think huggy feely is the way to go, but not everyone agrees. On 8/20/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They had an adoption day this weekend to which they brought 50 cats and 41 of them were adopted. They also raised $900. So I don't think they will need to absorb all that many into their main facilities. They do know what they can handle, I'm told they get 200 calls a week for help, and turn down many of them (of course, who could take them all?) http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17736.html They tend to construct temporary facilities for huge efforts like this. There was a bunny rescue of even greater size a few years ago, and I believe they got ALL the bunnies adopted. I'm not sure of the 41 adopted cats FELV status. On 8/20/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they (BF) do very good things, and if huggy feely works, then great, whatever works. I know they very qualified to care for felv+ cats, but I also wonder how many of the 400 are felv+? And I wonder how many they could responsibly absorb? I am sure they know, they seem to REALLY have their act togehter, lots of good folks on the ground level. Last thing I need is another felv+ kitty right now, especially since we are to start testing my 12 limbo fosters this week. (Everyone please wish them well, paws crossed, they have been studying hard, because they have heard they are getting tested. I just gentley explain that this is not a pass or fail test..) But, if I have to take another felv+ cat, even from Nevada, it would be ok, the Cat Gods will be there for me I am sure. We'll figure it all out. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... I have not heard anything. I love Best Friends and they are probably the most equipped of anyone in the country to treat FELV cats. It is my understanding they have one who is 20. They can get all the latest, most expensive, experimental stuff, because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, have tens of thousands of volunteers, etc. Because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, I don't feel bad at all about not contributing to them financially. I keep my money closer to home. I do totally support their mission, though. Some people I hear do not like them because they are too huggy feely. They have a committment to keep things positive, deal with people always on a positive level, and don't do things like show the public barrels of dead animals as PSAs. This is why they are a 24 million dollar a year business. I am trying hard to emulate them, but it is a lot more difficult when you take in about 1% of the money they do and have thousands fewer volunteers, but I'll get there one day:) On 8/19/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of these cats are testing felv+. http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17003.html My vet his wife are getting the black white one that you see in the photo. Cold hearted me that also hates myself, is getting one too. I asked her to just pick one that was fairly mellow, due to Papillon is quite the Top Cat w/ my group. Has anyone who is working in the rescue arena heard anything else about this save? Anymore details? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty
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I am sure w/ their conmnections they will be able to place many. Lots of folks will want to help out, and want one of the FLOCK kitties I am sure. That's what happened during that horrible situation in SA a few years ago, where Princess Purr-la came from. 240 cats, w/ one half already dead by the time they were found. Anyway, when Bexar Co. SPCA put them up for adoption, there was a line running around the building for cats. I wish every animal could be so loved after the fact.. maybe someday. - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... They had an adoption day this weekend to which they brought 50 cats and 41 of them were adopted. They also raised $900. So I don't think they will need to absorb all that many into their main facilities. They do know what they can handle, I'm told they get 200 calls a week for help, and turn down many of them (of course, who could take them all?) http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17736.html They tend to construct temporary facilities for huge efforts like this. There was a bunny rescue of even greater size a few years ago, and I believe they got ALL the bunnies adopted. I'm not sure of the 41 adopted cats FELV status. On 8/20/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they (BF) do very good things, and if huggy feely works, then great, whatever works. I know they very qualified to care for felv+ cats, but I also wonder how many of the 400 are felv+? And I wonder how many they could responsibly absorb? I am sure they know, they seem to REALLY have their act togehter, lots of good folks on the ground level. Last thing I need is another felv+ kitty right now, especially since we are to start testing my 12 limbo fosters this week. (Everyone please wish them well, paws crossed, they have been studying hard, because they have heard they are getting tested. I just gentley explain that this is not a pass or fail test..) But, if I have to take another felv+ cat, even from Nevada, it would be ok, the Cat Gods will be there for me I am sure. We'll figure it all out. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... I have not heard anything. I love Best Friends and they are probably the most equipped of anyone in the country to treat FELV cats. It is my understanding they have one who is 20. They can get all the latest, most expensive, experimental stuff, because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, have tens of thousands of volunteers, etc. Because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, I don't feel bad at all about not contributing to them financially. I keep my money closer to home. I do totally support their mission, though. Some people I hear do not like them because they are too huggy feely. They have a committment to keep things positive, deal with people always on a positive level, and don't do things like show the public barrels of dead animals as PSAs. This is why they are a 24 million dollar a year business. I am trying hard to emulate them, but it is a lot more difficult when you take in about 1% of the money they do and have thousands fewer volunteers, but I'll get there one day:) On 8/19/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of these cats are testing felv+. http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17003.html My vet his wife are getting the black white one that you see in the photo. Cold hearted me that also hates myself, is getting one too. I asked her to just pick one that was fairly mellow, due to Papillon is quite the Top Cat w/ my group. Has anyone who is working in the rescue arena heard anything else about this save? Anymore details? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the
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I think too. I have worked w/ several rescue groups that have a Director that could be the sister of the wicked witch, and all they do is run off good folks. I am sure that you understand, Kelly. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... Also, I definitely think huggy feely is the way to go, but not everyone agrees. On 8/20/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They had an adoption day this weekend to which they brought 50 cats and 41 of them were adopted. They also raised $900. So I don't think they will need to absorb all that many into their main facilities. They do know what they can handle, I'm told they get 200 calls a week for help, and turn down many of them (of course, who could take them all?) http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17736.html They tend to construct temporary facilities for huge efforts like this. There was a bunny rescue of even greater size a few years ago, and I believe they got ALL the bunnies adopted. I'm not sure of the 41 adopted cats FELV status. On 8/20/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they (BF) do very good things, and if huggy feely works, then great, whatever works. I know they very qualified to care for felv+ cats, but I also wonder how many of the 400 are felv+? And I wonder how many they could responsibly absorb? I am sure they know, they seem to REALLY have their act togehter, lots of good folks on the ground level. Last thing I need is another felv+ kitty right now, especially since we are to start testing my 12 limbo fosters this week. (Everyone please wish them well, paws crossed, they have been studying hard, because they have heard they are getting tested. I just gentley explain that this is not a pass or fail test..) But, if I have to take another felv+ cat, even from Nevada, it would be ok, the Cat Gods will be there for me I am sure. We'll figure it all out. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: ON TOPIC: Apparently... I have not heard anything. I love Best Friends and they are probably the most equipped of anyone in the country to treat FELV cats. It is my understanding they have one who is 20. They can get all the latest, most expensive, experimental stuff, because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, have tens of thousands of volunteers, etc. Because they are a 24 million dollar a year business, I don't feel bad at all about not contributing to them financially. I keep my money closer to home. I do totally support their mission, though. Some people I hear do not like them because they are too huggy feely. They have a committment to keep things positive, deal with people always on a positive level, and don't do things like show the public barrels of dead animals as PSAs. This is why they are a 24 million dollar a year business. I am trying hard to emulate them, but it is a lot more difficult when you take in about 1% of the money they do and have thousands fewer volunteers, but I'll get there one day:) On 8/19/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of these cats are testing felv+. http://network.bestfriends.org/nyecounty/news/17003.html My vet his wife are getting the black white one that you see in the photo. Cold hearted me that also hates myself, is getting one too. I asked her to just pick one that was fairly mellow, due to Papillon is quite the Top Cat w/ my group. Has anyone who is working in the rescue arena heard anything else about this save? Anymore details? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state,
Update on FLOCK
I just spoke w/ my vet's wife, Sheila, and here is what is happening so far. She is adopting the black white cat from the newsletter that you see when you pull up the story. The cat is felv+. (When she applied for the cat, health status including test was unknown.) She is getting 2 more that are felv+, for a total of 3 from this group of 400 cats. The woman in charge of adoptions for BF, said so far 39 have tested pos. for felv. Not sure how many have been tested out of the 400, but I would think if they tested neg/neg, they would have to be limbo cats for @ least 3 months until they are retested. My situation is this, I have the BF application to fill out, however, out of the original 25 we rescued from the hoarder in Houston this past spring (she had 185 living in a 1400sq.condo in downtown Houston), I took 14 and someone else took 11. One of my 14 tested pos., now she lives w/ my other 3 felv+ cats, one passed away due to mega colon seizures, leaving me w/ 12 limbo cats. All are to be retested this week, (hopefully) but it might have to be next week. Julia, the person who took the remaining 11 cats, had one turn felv+ after 3 months (he is also fiv+ , but that was not a big concern). She had her cats divided into big walk in size pens roomed @ 3 each. (Mine have been roomed @ 6 / 6 ). She immediately vaccinated the other 2 cats that was w/ her double pos. for felv., and will retest in 6 months. Her vet said that if they had an exposure to felv, and then were vaccinated, they had an 80% chance of staying neg. (jump in correct me if I am wrong). So, why I am telling you this is, w/ a heavy heart I feel like I should take the double pos. cat from Julia since she has no place to keep him, and he is alone, as opposed to taking a cat from Nevada. Plus I might have more pos. cats next week, when we start the retesting, who knows I guess I can always see when the lease runs out in the guest house behind me and turn it into a felv+ house. On another note, I was very impressed w/ the BF screening protacol for these cats, which I am sure must be standard procedure. They have a network that can do a home visit anywhere in the country, and a pilot that volunteers to fly the animals to their new homes. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
Re: Update on FLOCK
On 8/20/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spoke w/ my vet's wife, Sheila, and here is what is happening so far. She is adopting the black white cat from the newsletter that you see when you pull up the story. The cat is felv+. (When she applied for the cat, health status including test was unknown.) She is getting 2 more that are felv+, for a total of 3 from this group of 400 cats. The woman in charge of adoptions for BF, said so far 39 have tested pos. for felv. Not sure how many have been tested out of the 400, but I would think if they tested neg/neg, they would have to be limbo cats for @ least 3 months until they are retested. Even if they test positive on the SNAP test, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. About 20% of positives on the SNAP test are false positives. Of course BF knows this and will retest with IFA. In fact I believe all cats who live in Benton's House which is the FELV living quarters at BF are routinely retested. At least one I know of converted and later tested neg/neg. My situation is this, I have the BF application to fill out, however, out of the original 25 we rescued from the hoarder in Houston this past spring (she had 185 living in a 1400sq.condo in downtown Houston), I took 14 and someone else took 11. That is scary. I live in 1100 square feet and don't even have 1/6 of the cats she had. 185?? But I am feeling I need to cut down in order to give my guys the best care. I can't even imagine 185. That is insane. I have Nod who is a 12-14 year old former street cat. He has a scar on his tail where no hair will grow. Dr. Samon has confirmed it isn't ringworm or any kind of skin disease, but he looks kind of like a possum. Also the fat tomcat face as he was intact until last November. Kinda crosseyed due to a scar from a fight or untreated infection who knows how long ago. This adopter adores him. Yay. Sebastian is a 12 year old blue point Himalayan, looks purebred to me, he is going to Seattle. Her vet said that if they had an exposure to felv, and then were vaccinated, they had an 80% chance of staying neg. (jump in correct me if I am wrong). There has been a lot of discussion about vaccination and I don't think anyone knows for sure, but I've never heard of vaccination after exposure doing anything in particular. Healthy adult cats have a ~85% natural immunity to FELV. The vaccine provides about 80% immunity. I'm not sure how the two combine - I've asked here and I still don't know. The FELV vaccine is not a core vaccine according to the AAFP, but I vaccinate all my personal and rescue cats against FELV. If I didn't have cats coming in and out and had a stable house, I would probably not vaccinate. On another note, I was very impressed w/ the BF screening protacol for these cats, which I am sure must be standard procedure. They have a network that can do a home visit anywhere in the country, and a pilot that volunteers to fly the animals to their new homes. Yes, BF has been around a long time and has volunteers coming out their ears. I am most impressed with their total and absolute willingness to help any other rescue with any information they need at any time. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
RE: Update on FLOCK
Susan, I've had your link open all day and have been reading the story and the comments. Truly awesome work by BF in a really sad situation. I'm glad your vet's wife is taking the black and white and the 2 others. They will certainly have the best of care! As for you, it sounds like you have a full plate right now. Maybe after you determine the status of your limbo cats and know more about what you'll need in the way of space for the sick ones, you can reconsider taking a Nevada cat. I think it would be a very kind thing to take Julia's positive boy and give him some nice company. Best of luck with all the retests!! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Update on FLOCK I just spoke w/ my vet's wife, Sheila, and here is what is happening so far. She is adopting the black white cat from the newsletter that you see when you pull up the story. The cat is felv+. (When she applied for the cat, health status including test was unknown.) She is getting 2 more that are felv+, for a total of 3 from this group of 400 cats. The woman in charge of adoptions for BF, said so far 39 have tested pos. for felv. Not sure how many have been tested out of the 400, but I would think if they tested neg/neg, they would have to be limbo cats for @ least 3 months until they are retested. My situation is this, I have the BF application to fill out, however, out of the original 25 we rescued from the hoarder in Houston this past spring (she had 185 living in a 1400sq.condo in downtown Houston), I took 14 and someone else took 11. One of my 14 tested pos., now she lives w/ my other 3 felv+ cats, one passed away due to mega colon seizures, leaving me w/ 12 limbo cats. All are to be retested this week, (hopefully) but it might have to be next week. Julia, the person who took the remaining 11 cats, had one turn felv+ after 3 months (he is also fiv+ , but that was not a big concern). She had her cats divided into big walk in size pens roomed @ 3 each. (Mine have been roomed @ 6 / 6 ). She immediately vaccinated the other 2 cats that was w/ her double pos. for felv., and will retest in 6 months. Her vet said that if they had an exposure to felv, and then were vaccinated, they had an 80% chance of staying neg. (jump in correct me if I am wrong). So, why I am telling you this is, w/ a heavy heart I feel like I should take the double pos. cat from Julia since she has no place to keep him, and he is alone, as opposed to taking a cat from Nevada. Plus I might have more pos. cats next week, when we start the retesting, who knows I guess I can always see when the lease runs out in the guest house behind me and turn it into a felv+ house. On another note, I was very impressed w/ the BF screening protacol for these cats, which I am sure must be standard procedure. They have a network that can do a home visit anywhere in the country, and a pilot that volunteers to fly the animals to their new homes. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Update on FLOCK
Ahhh, thank you Diane! We need all the luck we can get.. :) Yes, and the funny thing is, Sheila told me that she had me to blame for adopting the 3 cats that were felv+. I originally sent her the link, and she said the black white cat just haunted her. Originally when she called BF, she planned to just sponsor the cat (they had already recently donated $10,000 to BF for another rescue, something to do w/ Baghdad animals?) She sent it back to me when we were discussing another hoarder situation, I hadn't even remembered looking @ it prior. Shows what kinda blinders I wear, doesn't it? Off in lalalalalalala land..! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: RE: Update on FLOCK Susan, I've had your link open all day and have been reading the story and the comments. Truly awesome work by BF in a really sad situation. I'm glad your vet's wife is taking the black and white and the 2 others. They will certainly have the best of care! As for you, it sounds like you have a full plate right now. Maybe after you determine the status of your limbo cats and know more about what you'll need in the way of space for the sick ones, you can reconsider taking a Nevada cat. I think it would be a very kind thing to take Julia's positive boy and give him some nice company. Best of luck with all the retests!! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Update on FLOCK I just spoke w/ my vet's wife, Sheila, and here is what is happening so far. She is adopting the black white cat from the newsletter that you see when you pull up the story. The cat is felv+. (When she applied for the cat, health status including test was unknown.) She is getting 2 more that are felv+, for a total of 3 from this group of 400 cats. The woman in charge of adoptions for BF, said so far 39 have tested pos. for felv. Not sure how many have been tested out of the 400, but I would think if they tested neg/neg, they would have to be limbo cats for @ least 3 months until they are retested. My situation is this, I have the BF application to fill out, however, out of the original 25 we rescued from the hoarder in Houston this past spring (she had 185 living in a 1400sq.condo in downtown Houston), I took 14 and someone else took 11. One of my 14 tested pos., now she lives w/ my other 3 felv+ cats, one passed away due to mega colon seizures, leaving me w/ 12 limbo cats. All are to be retested this week, (hopefully) but it might have to be next week. Julia, the person who took the remaining 11 cats, had one turn felv+ after 3 months (he is also fiv+ , but that was not a big concern). She had her cats divided into big walk in size pens roomed @ 3 each. (Mine have been roomed @ 6 / 6 ). She immediately vaccinated the other 2 cats that was w/ her double pos. for felv., and will retest in 6 months. Her vet said that if they had an exposure to felv, and then were vaccinated, they had an 80% chance of staying neg. (jump in correct me if I am wrong). So, why I am telling you this is, w/ a heavy heart I feel like I should take the double pos. cat from Julia since she has no place to keep him, and he is alone, as opposed to taking a cat from Nevada. Plus I might have more pos. cats next week, when we start the retesting, who knows I guess I can always see when the lease runs out in the guest house behind me and turn it into a felv+ house. On another note, I was very impressed w/ the BF screening protacol for these cats, which I am sure must be standard procedure. They have a network that can do a home visit anywhere in the country, and a pilot that volunteers to fly the animals to their new homes. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by
Re: Update on FLOCK
Thanks, Kelly, good info.. :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Update on FLOCK On 8/20/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spoke w/ my vet's wife, Sheila, and here is what is happening so far. She is adopting the black white cat from the newsletter that you see when you pull up the story. The cat is felv+. (When she applied for the cat, health status including test was unknown.) She is getting 2 more that are felv+, for a total of 3 from this group of 400 cats. The woman in charge of adoptions for BF, said so far 39 have tested pos. for felv. Not sure how many have been tested out of the 400, but I would think if they tested neg/neg, they would have to be limbo cats for @ least 3 months until they are retested. Even if they test positive on the SNAP test, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. About 20% of positives on the SNAP test are false positives. Of course BF knows this and will retest with IFA. In fact I believe all cats who live in Benton's House which is the FELV living quarters at BF are routinely retested. At least one I know of converted and later tested neg/neg. My situation is this, I have the BF application to fill out, however, out of the original 25 we rescued from the hoarder in Houston this past spring (she had 185 living in a 1400sq.condo in downtown Houston), I took 14 and someone else took 11. That is scary. I live in 1100 square feet and don't even have 1/6 of the cats she had. 185?? But I am feeling I need to cut down in order to give my guys the best care. I can't even imagine 185. That is insane. I have Nod who is a 12-14 year old former street cat. He has a scar on his tail where no hair will grow. Dr. Samon has confirmed it isn't ringworm or any kind of skin disease, but he looks kind of like a possum. Also the fat tomcat face as he was intact until last November. Kinda crosseyed due to a scar from a fight or untreated infection who knows how long ago. This adopter adores him. Yay. Sebastian is a 12 year old blue point Himalayan, looks purebred to me, he is going to Seattle. Her vet said that if they had an exposure to felv, and then were vaccinated, they had an 80% chance of staying neg. (jump in correct me if I am wrong). There has been a lot of discussion about vaccination and I don't think anyone knows for sure, but I've never heard of vaccination after exposure doing anything in particular. Healthy adult cats have a ~85% natural immunity to FELV. The vaccine provides about 80% immunity. I'm not sure how the two combine - I've asked here and I still don't know. The FELV vaccine is not a core vaccine according to the AAFP, but I vaccinate all my personal and rescue cats against FELV. If I didn't have cats coming in and out and had a stable house, I would probably not vaccinate. On another note, I was very impressed w/ the BF screening protacol for these cats, which I am sure must be standard procedure. They have a network that can do a home visit anywhere in the country, and a pilot that volunteers to fly the animals to their new homes. Yes, BF has been around a long time and has volunteers coming out their ears. I am most impressed with their total and absolute willingness to help any other rescue with any information they need at any time. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: James are you out there?
Sorry I offended you but I stand by not using chorine bleach around a cat. Further I believe vinegar is a commonly used disinfectant. Again, sorry I don't live up to your high standards. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: James are you out there? Wendy, The two latest examples that have come to my attention are the suggestions to substitute vinegar for bleach when disinfecting for possible panluek contamination, (with a mention that most infectious diseases don't last long in the environment) and the use of Prednisolone Acetate Ophthalmic Suspension, (steroid eye med), for all leukemia-positive patients who exhibit eye problems, (dangerous side effects can occur esp when the eye is lacerated). I'm not saying that we should know all the ramifications regarding everything we suggest in our efforts to help, what I am saying is that what is posted should be clarified with a disclaimer when we are not sure. It is always better to 'back up' our statements with links to studies that illustrate our viewpoints regardless of our certainty. We must always keep in mind that while many of us have been dealing with this insidious disease long enough to be confident in treating less serious maladies at home, there are those that are not experienced enough to recognize what is potentially dangerous and what is not. I have said many times that when dealing with felv pos kitties, it is never a good idea to take a 'wait and see' approach. When we post advice with an authoritative tone it may dissuade someone from making a potentially life saving visit to the vet. I certainly do hope that you are right and that I am over reacting about the danger to this list. If you re-read my post when going digest you will see that my being overwhelmed personally was only one of the reasons I stated for leaving. We had recently lost a long time valuable member because of hurt feelings, and for me, the list was beginning to lose what was always one of it's most valuable benefits; the feeling of safety and belonging that we felt in coming together for the common good of helping and caring for our sick fur babies. This forum is difficult enough on our emotional sensibilities without attacking each other or pointing judgmental fingers at those who's beliefs and circumstances are different than our own. Nina Subject: Re: James are you out there? From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Nina, As much as I love you, I do not agree with your saying that incorrect information is being presented as matter-of-fact. Can you please post specific examples of this happening? Anytime this does happen, usually someone here can clarify. I have not gone anywhere, am here every single day, and have not seen this happening as you say. Yes, it's true that many long time members are not around, but we don't know all the reasons for each one's absence. I know Elizabeth left because of personal reasons, and you said you had a lot going on recently so were going digest for a while. As someone who is very active on this site, I was disappointed to read your post because I do not feel the same way you do. Some OT, yes, BUT, fortunately we aren't seeing much going on in the way of people needing FeLV help, so the OT does help keep the group active when there is not a lot going on. I agree that the mean spirited stuff should not happen, however, there are only three instances that I know of in the past year, all three in the past 3 months, and 2 of those have been resolved and the other I believe the same in a matter of days. I do not see that this list is in the danger that you do. There are people here to help when help is needed. Respectfully, :) Wendy
Pewter
Hi All Good news Pewter my newest acquisition, yeah right that I thought I would find her a home, she just had her first series of shots. I am guessing her to be nine weeks old pure great and very sweet. No now the vet treats her ear mites and worms her, while waiting for the FELK test to be read. He gave her a shot. He comes back in the room with the test and shows it to me, it is blue and says with a smile negative. Ok that is what I expected so he is leaving and I asked him about her vaccines, oh he already gave it to her. He kind of realized he was caught and said only maybe once did it come back as positive where he was caught. Oh well, she is negative. GOOD NEWS. Junior is now the one shut up. Oh yes I told him the story about someone thinking I was a cat rescue person which is how I got Pewter, and he jokes that it was worse than being labeled a terrorist. OK please don't get serious about the comment. It was said as a joke. Onto the next topic. If I were new to this group, I would probably have quietly dropped out. In my opinion this group helped save Juniors life.He is such a happy cat. And I want to thank all of you for that. I am not new and I remain for the wealth of information. Now that I have treated junior for almost a year, I can add what works for me, It is all about what works for one, because it may or may not be the answer for another. For all you rescue folks Bless you for all your hard work. Maybe I can only save one kitten at a time (i now have one at a time), but all of you that take only so many needy souls thanks. OT Micheal Vick did a plea deal and will get Jail time, albeit not near enough. The world now knows the horrors of dogfighting and maybe will do some good getting harsher sentences in the future. I am in Richmond where the Federal court is. I went online to a local station and read this just about the time it happened. I could not post then I was at work. My only concern is that we still need to pressure the NFL and Atlanta Falcons into an expulsion rather than suspension. I love everyone for their passion even though it does occasionally create controversy. Thanks so Much Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike , add Pewter Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
OT: Mike Vick update
More info from another list... The judge presiding over this case, Judge Henry Hudson, is supposedly a harsh sentencer. The jail time being guestimated now is 12 - 18 months although he could get up to 5 yrs. The other people arrested in this scandal turned Vick in for setting up a gambling ring which could mean worse things for him in the sports world. Gambling on sport (no, I don't think dogfighting is a sport) is a huge No No in the sports world. Ironic, isn't it. He'll do time for the dogfighting but, at least what is being said now, is that his career may be ended due to the gambling...At least they got him. He should be forced to set up a sanctuary for animals and bank roll it for some number of years. That would be a nice addition to his sentence. -Karen susan dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.petgirlspetsitting.com www.tx.siameserescue.org www.shadowcats.net A kitten is more amusing than half the people one is obligated to be with. Lady Sidney Morgan -- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar * DO NOT CROSSPOST THIS MESSAGE * Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Siamese cats b.. Siamese cat figurine c.. Siamese cat gift d.. Siamese cat jewelry e.. Siamese Yahoo! TV Want the scoop? Check out today's news and gossip. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central get help and provide feedback on Groups. Yahoo! Groups Real Food Group Share recipes and favorite meals. . __,_._,___
Anyone in the Chicago area?
My vet recently took on a partner @ Central Texas Cat Hospital. She is a Feline Specialist from the Chicago area. hHname is Dr. Michelle Gaspar, and mostly she did relief work @ the cat hospitals there and was a major consultant w/ VIN. (Veterinary Info Network). She started @ the clinic this week, and I am told she is one of the nicest people that you could possibly meet. Has anyone heard of her? Just curious, Dr. Smith plans to start taking more vacations now, and she will be seeing my fur children when he is on holiday. Thanks! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
Re: Pewter
Sally, Congratulations on your newest acquisition, Pewter. What a cute name! Is she grey? She is lucky to have you. Enjoyed reading your post. Thanks for the info. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:22:48 PM Subject: Pewter Hi All Good news Pewter my newest acquisition, yeah right that I thought I would find her a home, she just had her first series of shots. I am guessing her to be nine weeks old pure great and very sweet. No now the vet treats her ear mites and worms her, while waiting for the FELK test to be read. He gave her a shot. He comes back in the room with the test and shows it to me, it is blue and says with a smile negative. Ok that is what I expected so he is leaving and I asked him about her vaccines, oh he already gave it to her. He kind of realized he was caught and said only maybe once did it come back as positive where he was caught. Oh well, she is negative. GOOD NEWS. Junior is now the one shut up. Oh yes I told him the story about someone thinking I was a cat rescue person which is how I got Pewter, and he jokes that it was worse than being labeled a terrorist. OK please don't get serious about the comment. It was said as a joke. Onto the next topic. If I were new to this group, I would probably have quietly dropped out. In my opinion this group helped save Juniors life.He is such a happy cat. And I want to thank all of you for that. I am not new and I remain for the wealth of information. Now that I have treated junior for almost a year, I can add what works for me, It is all about what works for one, because it may or may not be the answer for another. For all you rescue folks Bless you for all your hard work. Maybe I can only save one kitten at a time (i now have one at a time), but all of you that take only so many needy souls thanks. OT Micheal Vick did a plea deal and will get Jail time, albeit not near enough. The world now knows the horrors of dogfighting and maybe will do some good getting harsher sentences in the future. I am in Richmond where the Federal court is. I went online to a local station and read this just about the time it happened. I could not post then I was at work. My only concern is that we still need to pressure the NFL and Atlanta Falcons into an expulsion rather than suspension. I love everyone for their passion even though it does occasionally create controversy. Thanks so Much Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike , add Pewter Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
2007 WSAVA Proceedings ALREADY Available
For those of you who are curious about new veterinary procedures/treatments... http://www.vin. com/proceedings/ Proceedings. plx?CID=WSAVA200 7O=Generic :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __,_._,___ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: Pewter
Hi Wendy Yes she is grey. My unimaginative BF who loves the cats as much as I do calls my silver tabby grey puddy and wants to call her little grey puddy. He also used to have a double yellow head amazon parrot called yellow bird and another amazon called red bird. You get the idea. Oh yes just read the names below you will see his names in some of the cats. Grey and White is actually a dilute calico so she is also tan. I have a Flower theme I could have chosen from and the name would have been ASTER but I decided on the Metal theme so it is Pewter. Thanks Sally On 8/20/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, Congratulations on your newest acquisition, Pewter. What a cute name! Is she grey? She is lucky to have you. Enjoyed reading your post. Thanks for the info. :) Wendy *Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! *~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ -
