New FELV Positive- questions

[Kenzie Kanne]

OK- I volunteer for a rescue and care for cats in my home.  I already have my 
own two girls who live in the main home that our FELV positive.  I have been 
taking care of a mom and 2 kittens and then one other cat.  They live in a 
spare room I have converted into a cat room full of toys, a cat tree, and 
everything they could need.  Yesterday, mom and kits had their big day at the 
vet.  Here's the dilemma.  Jill, one of the kits, tested a light positive for 
FELV.  Her brother and mother didn't.  The other cat was previously tested.  
Mom and brother have been vaccinated and the other cat is being vaccinated 
today.  The kits are about 12 weeks old now- this is estimated because they 
were dumped in the country.  What do I do w/ everyone?  Do I keep people 
separate or since they are vaccinated they are okay?  I don't have immediate 
homes for anyone right now so I am it.  Do I let Jill down w/ my girls or what 
if she's negative---I haven't had my girls retested...what if they are 
negative?  Any advice would be great!  Thanks everyone!Kenzie KanneARC 
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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

[Gloria B. Lane]

Wow, she's a light positive.  I don't know how old she is, but   I 
have no doubt what I would do.  I'd leave the kit with her mom and 
bubba, and retest at some point.  She's already with them, so they're 
already exposed. Moving is stressful. Light Positive can mean that 
the test results aren't correct and it needs to be redone; or that 
she's been exposed to the virus and is mounting a defense against it, 
or whatever.If she was an adult I'd start interferon, but 
probably not as a kitten.  I'm sure you'll get some other ideas too!


Best wishes, and thanks for rescuing the FELV positives...

Gloria





At 11:27 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote:
OK- I volunteer for a rescue and care for cats in my home.  I 
already have my own two girls who live in the main home that our 
FELV positive.  I have been taking care of a mom and 2 kittens and 
then one other cat.  They live in a spare room I have converted into 
a cat room full of toys, a cat tree, and everything they could 
need.  Yesterday, mom and kits had their big day at the vet.  Here's 
the dilemma.  Jill, one of the kits, tested a light positive for 
FELV.  Her brother and mother didn't.  The other cat was previously 
tested.  Mom and brother have been vaccinated and the other cat is 
being vaccinated today.  The kits are about 12 weeks old now- this 
is estimated because they were dumped in the country.  What do I do 
w/ everyone?  Do I keep people separate or since they are vaccinated 
they are okay?  I don't have immediate homes for anyone right now so 
I am it.  Do I let Jill down w/ my girls or what if she's 
negative---I haven't had my girls retested...what if they are 
negative?  Any advice would be great!  Thanks everyone!



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Kenzie Kanne
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RE: New FELV Positive- questions

[Chris]

Question---if the mom tests negative, how would the kitten be positive?  

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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: New FELV Positive- questions

Wow, she's a light positive.  I don't know how old she is, but   I 
have no doubt what I would do.  I'd leave the kit with her mom and 
bubba, and retest at some point.  She's already with them, so they're 
already exposed. Moving is stressful. Light Positive can mean that 
the test results aren't correct and it needs to be redone; or that 
she's been exposed to the virus and is mounting a defense against it, 
or whatever.If she was an adult I'd start interferon, but 
probably not as a kitten.  I'm sure you'll get some other ideas too!

Best wishes, and thanks for rescuing the FELV positives...

Gloria





At 11:27 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote:
>OK- I volunteer for a rescue and care for cats in my home.  I 
>already have my own two girls who live in the main home that our 
>FELV positive.  I have been taking care of a mom and 2 kittens and 
>then one other cat.  They live in a spare room I have converted into 
>a cat room full of toys, a cat tree, and everything they could 
>need.  Yesterday, mom and kits had their big day at the vet.  Here's 
>the dilemma.  Jill, one of the kits, tested a light positive for 
>FELV.  Her brother and mother didn't.  The other cat was previously 
>tested.  Mom and brother have been vaccinated and the other cat is 
>being vaccinated today.  The kits are about 12 weeks old now- this 
>is estimated because they were dumped in the country.  What do I do 
>w/ everyone?  Do I keep people separate or since they are vaccinated 
>they are okay?  I don't have immediate homes for anyone right now so 
>I am it.  Do I let Jill down w/ my girls or what if she's 
>negative---I haven't had my girls retested...what if they are 
>negative?  Any advice would be great!  Thanks everyone!
>
>
>[]
>Kenzie Kanne
>ARC Volunteer
>(712)830-9518
>www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll
>animalrescueofcarroll.or
g
>
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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

[Kelley Saveika]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Wow, she's a light positive.  I don't know how old she is, but   I
> have no doubt what I would do.  I'd leave the kit with her mom and
> bubba, and retest at some point.  She's already with them, so they're
> already exposed. Moving is stressful. Light Positive can mean that
> the test results aren't correct and it needs to be redone; or that
> she's been exposed to the virus and is mounting a defense against it,
> or whatever.If she was an adult I'd start interferon, but
> probably not as a kitten.  I'm sure you'll get some other ideas too!
>
>
I really do not like the whole "light positive" thing.  It is confusing and
difficult to understand - I still don't understand it and one of my foster
kittens tested light pos a couple of years ago.  She turned out to be
negative, though, so in that case we believe it was a bad test.



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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

[MaryChristine]

that's what's gotten researchers re-evaluating everything we thought they
knew--negative moms, or litters from positive moms that are only partially
positive themselves, or positive kittens that then turn negative (when the
old "wisdom" was that a kitten born with the virus couldn't possibly throw
it off because of the immature immune system.

the last thing that i read, and i don't know where, and can't cite it
because it was just sort of a notice someplace of preliminary results (oh,
knowing me, i probably DO have it saved SOMEPLACE, but it wasn't
definite...) is that they're thinking that maybe the virus does NOT pass
through the placental barrier as previously believed, or via the birth
process itself (the mucous membranes), but that perhaps the MAJOR vector in
all transmission is the mutual grooming and cleaning that goes on.

since we already know that the virus does not pass easily, and that many
negatives live happily (or, at least co-exist) with positives for many many
years--anecdotally, more than the 30% who should be able to throw it
off--this hypothesis makes a lot of sense. ESPECIALLY the negative mom and
positive kittens bit, if, for example, there's a positive mom who takes on a
lot of the nurturing duties, which DOES happen a lot

as for faint and strong positives, my understanding, tho i guess it MAY
depend on on the brand of test, is that there's really no such thing: if any
color shows, it's positive. the depth of the color has nothing to do with
the amount of antigen in the sample--could as easily be a function of the
test solution. kind of like pregnancy--no such thing as being a little bit
positive.



On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Question---if the mom tests negative, how would the kitten be positive?
>
> Christiane Biagi
> 914-632-4672
> Cell:  914-720-6888
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:38 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: New FELV Positive- questions
>
> Wow, she's a light positive.  I don't know how old she is, but   I
> have no doubt what I would do.  I'd leave the kit with her mom and
> bubba, and retest at some point.  She's already with them, so they're
> already exposed. Moving is stressful. Light Positive can mean that
> the test results aren't correct and it needs to be redone; or that
> she's been exposed to the virus and is mounting a defense against it,
> or whatever.If she was an adult I'd start interferon, but
> probably not as a kitten.  I'm sure you'll get some other ideas too!
>
> Best wishes, and thanks for rescuing the FELV positives...
>
> Gloria
>
>
>
>
>
> At 11:27 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote:
> >OK- I volunteer for a rescue and care for cats in my home.  I
> >already have my own two girls who live in the main home that our
> >FELV positive.  I have been taking care of a mom and 2 kittens and
> >then one other cat.  They live in a spare room I have converted into
> >a cat room full of toys, a cat tree, and everything they could
> >need.  Yesterday, mom and kits had their big day at the vet.  Here's
> >the dilemma.  Jill, one of the kits, tested a light positive for
> >FELV.  Her brother and mother didn't.  The other cat was previously
> >tested.  Mom and brother have been vaccinated and the other cat is
> >being vaccinated today.  The kits are about 12 weeks old now- this
> >is estimated because they were dumped in the country.  What do I do
> >w/ everyone?  Do I keep people separate or since they are vaccinated
> >they are okay?  I don't have immediate homes for anyone right now so
> >I am it.  Do I let Jill down w/ my girls or what if she's
> >negative---I haven't had my girls retested...what if they are
> >negative?  Any advice would be great!  Thanks everyone!
> >
> >
> >[]
> >Kenzie Kanne
> >ARC Volunteer
> >(712)830-9518
> >www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll
> >
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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

[laurieskatz]

Agree about keeping the family together. As my vet would say, they have 
already been exposed.
I would separate the other cat for sure, at least until she's had the 
booster (30 days?). She is not protected right now. Wondering how long they 
have all been together. In any event, I think I'd keep her apart now and 
until everyone tests negative. I'd test her again, too (I can't remember how 
long a wait is recommended before retesting).


I am questionning why each cat isn't being tested before they are 
co-mingled? We always tested each cat before co-mingling.
In my own home, I did test and vaccinate and booster each cat who joined the 
family and whom I fostered., Any new cat was isolated for 2 -4 months, until 
tested negative twice, and vaccinated and boostered before meeting everyone 
else.

L
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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

[MaryChristine]

it used to be thought that if mom was negative, the kittens would be, so
VERY often kittens weren't tested at all, or at most, one from the litter
was.

some of it has to do with finances--for small rescues or shelters, the
expense of testing full litters during kitten season is not always
realistic. in fact, there are still MANY shelters and animal-control
facilities that don't test AT ALL--and won't/can't pay for foster parents to
do so, either.

but tho i didn't specifically answer this before, i of course agree with
gloria and everyone: by now, everyone's been exposed and separating them is
pointless

MC

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:25 PM, laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Agree about keeping the family together. As my vet would say, they have
> already been exposed.
> I would separate the other cat for sure, at least until she's had the
> booster (30 days?). She is not protected right now. Wondering how long
> they
> have all been together. In any event, I think I'd keep her apart now and
> until everyone tests negative. I'd test her again, too (I can't remember
> how
> long a wait is recommended before retesting).
>
> I am questionning why each cat isn't being tested before they are
> co-mingled? We always tested each cat before co-mingling.
> In my own home, I did test and vaccinate and booster each cat who joined
> the
> family and whom I fostered., Any new cat was isolated for 2 -4 months,
> until
> tested negative twice, and vaccinated and boostered before meeting
> everyone
> else.
> L
> -
>
>
>
>


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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

[TatorBunz]

 
 
I totally agree with Gloria.
Everyone has been exposed too late on separating  them.
There is no such thing as a light positive.
It is either positive or negative.
 
I can honestly say that I had positives and negatives live together  for 
years.
I vaccinated the negatives every year.
Not one of the negatives died from FELV they died of other Feline  illnesses.
 
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but tho  i didn't specifically answer this before, i of course agree with 
gloria and  everyone: by now, everyone's been exposed and separating them is 
pointless  

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