Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
And this is also our reward. They enrich our lives every minute of their lives. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Dear Laura, Thank you for giving Dani a chance for life. I also have a lot of cats (15 at home) plus a FelV sanctuary in my building in town. Sometimes these FelV kittens can live long lives, and others will die. I have found there is really nothing you can do to cure the cat of FelV, but some will throw off the virus when they have lots of love, a good diet, and no stress. I do not believe in heroic measures or invasive proceedures. In July I took in a litter of 4 FelV kittens, and they were happy playful babies until November when one of my calico girls named Molly died of anemia. Her calico sister Maggie died of the same thing one month later. Now their brother, a precious silver tabby male, Willie, my very favorite, is becoming anemic and soon there will only be one left from this litter. It is heart breaking each time I lose one, but we gave them a wonderful home and lots of love during their short lives and this is my consolation. Lorrie Hi everyone, I am new to this group--and new to FeLV. I just took in an FeLV+ kitty from the shelter where I am a volunteer. Her name is Dani ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave)
And the big problem is, is that the majority of the public isn't informed and hang on every word a vet says. They trust them for the best advice. It's up to us to spread the word as much as possible. Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Alev Durmus alev_dur...@yahoo.com wrote: What is wrong with the vets? I was not as lucky as David, neither my River :((( Mine was killed by a no-kill animal shelter...Some of you might remember... By the way I sent a complaint letter, called a few of their top supporters, Executive Director called me and I was VERY accurate and not accepting their bs, the director of the faclities stepped down a while ago. I don't know if it is related but I hope the new one is better... I think this starts with vets, they know the facts and they are rushing to kill animals, if they behave that way, what do we expect from the rest of the society...I am open to start a petition etc. whatever comes to your minds. I am new and unfortunately I found this site after the fact, but I will never forget the support I got from all of you, thank you again. Alev From: David Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave) Only IFA. I'll ask that she be retested with the Elisa too. Thanks for pointing that out. I thought the IFA was the definitive test but may not be positive right away when acute symptoms present. Also a clarification, my Tux as a kitten story was 5 years ago. She's now an adult. Even back then the vet was ready to destroy her if that snap test came back positive. Of course the current vet wanted to put her down at the first positive snap test with anemia. She may not even be infected with FeLV...but even if she were infected we wouldn't consider that option until her quality of life was so bad to warrant that (and treating her condition to give her a fighting chance at some recovery). Thanks. again. Dave On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Dave was she just retested on the IFA, or on the Snap test also? A positive Snap with a negative IFA is still a positive cat. If both tests were negative then she is negative. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ From: Dave Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave) Update on Tux. Recap: She tested positive for felv on the snap test in December and negative on ifa. She is a felv vaccinated house cat that presented with immune mediated hemolytic anemia. She was treated with prednisolone and doxycycline. She responded well to treatment tho no cause was identified because the vet was convinced she was felv+. This week we retested her. Weight is up 1 lb. and red blood cell count is normal. Negative on ifa. The cause of her anemia is still unknown but the vet has let the felv diagnosis go now. Thank you everyone so much for all the advice. It's heartbreaking to read about the struggles we all go through on this forum for the love of our pets. When we got tux the vet tested her for felv. She said if she was positive that she had to be put down right away. She was very insistent. I knew in my heart that was wrong and wouldn't let her do it. Of course if she were suffering that would be different...but I could never destroy a healthy kitten. I am very happy to see an entire community on this forum that feels as I did (and reinforces what I thought was right at the time). Unfortunately most people will do what the vet says...and that is very sad. Very best wishes to everyone and your furry companions! I will stay subscribed to the forum because you raise a wide array of topics and I may be able to help someone. Thx. Dave On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Be careful about letting get too much exercise. If she is amemic she is not getting enough oxygen to her cells as it is David Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com wrote: The official diagnosis/condition from the pathologist is immune mediated hemolytic anemia/IMHA. We don't know the cause yet. We're treating for parasites (doxycycline)...and with prednisone to suppress the immune response. We'll repeat the IFA in a month. She is responding very well to treatment...the immune response to her own blood has diminished, gained back 1/4 pound, her CBC increased 50% and her new blood cell count was up 5x. We get another blood test tomorrow. She was still barely below the recommended CBC for transfusion...but is doing well despite everything. She's active though she won't play. There are a couple
Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group
Sorry to be lae, been off line for a few days. I also have a mix of positive and negative cats. My vet said vaccinate the negatives and all should be okay. Mostly, lots of love, good food and cut down on the stress pllus run to the vet at the first sign of unusual behavior. better and cheaper to catch things early than late. Dianne Chance dechance19...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Group, I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active. I have been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia positive kitties. My biggest question is about the testing results, can results be a false positive? How many times should a kitty be tested to have confirmation without a doubt? I would appreciate your responses. dyan ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hissing
I have to share my futon with 6 cats. They fight over who gets to sit closest to me. A lot of times I am in the middle and get the slaps, hisses, etc. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I was hissed at in the face by one of my cats. No, she wasn't angry at me. We were sitting on my futon sofa and another cat was sitting on the back of it, tried to snuggle up to my face and Cloud Nine hissed at him, right into my face. I can tell you from experience that hissing does not contain saliva. I have read that also on a few cat health sites. Now, it does contain cat breath (gasp, Cloud Nine has just eaten some fishy dry food, ugh!) but I don't think that a cat inhaling the breath of a FeLv+ cat is in any danger. Now, interestingly enough, a cat can lob a spit ball. One discontented kitty did that to me some time ago. Splat! Definitely saliva but it was not done with a hiss, it was done with a sort of angry buzzing sound. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hissing If hissing spread FELV, my whole crew would have it by now. We all do a lot of hissing and slapping. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: It is spread through saliva, but probably not likely to be passed by momentary hissing. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: (ra)chel kandyrac...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] hissing I was just wondering, how likely is it that FeLV can be spread through a moment of hissing? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ringworm
Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?
Hey all, I think there may be a problem with our server since there has been no mail since the 9th. I will be checking into this today as time permits. Sorry for the inconvenience. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
My vet had given me a liquid med to dab on the spots. Took a couple of weeks but cleared up. Theres a pill as well but DON'T use that...all sorts of bad side effects. Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden elizab...@toonces.org Date: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up. The dips are messy and stinky, but effective. Good luck. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine
Hi Rachel I tried the L-Lysine human tablets for my cat and he threw up! Maybe someone knows how to dose it down, but I felt it was risky. In fact, he never tolerated the vet's product, either. Maybe it's just him. Good luck. I know it is good for humans as when I get a cold sore it knocks it right out (caution: can cause constipation). Bonnie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Raven Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine My vet has a pharmacy mix up a cat suitable dosage of liquid L-Lysine (with fish flavoring). It is quite expensive and I always have some left over. I was wondering if anyone knows if this stuff can still be used after the use by date or not? Also I've seen in health food stores lysine capsules. I was wondering if anyone uses that for their cat and in what dosage? Or if anyone knows if that would be something that could be done? I figured it would probably be okay if the conversions were right but since the mix I get from the pharmacy also contains some sort of fish flavor that may change the ml so I don't know. Thank you for any help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?
Got it! Bonnie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th? Hey all, I think there may be a problem with our server since there has been no mail since the 9th. I will be checking into this today as time permits. Sorry for the inconvenience. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I use the Walmart Equate brand of Athlete’s Foot cream it is 1% Clotrimazole and has always worked for my cats, have used it many times. Just apply a couple of times a day, no mess, no smell and it is cheap. If they have quite a lot of ringworm, I woiuld also bathe them with Nizoral shampoo, not to expensive and available in the dandruff shampoo area at Walmart. Gary From: Elizabeth Ann Bodden Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ringworm Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] L-lysine
I've used L-lysine capsules over the years just fine--same ones people take. Buy them at a health food store. For an adult, average sized cat (8-12 pounds +/-), buy the 500 mg capsules, open them up, and use roughly half mixed in with a can of cat food,or equivalent. Ideally, you use 250 in the morning,250 in the evening. During flare-ups you can dose as high as 1000a day,given in two doses, split equally. It is nearly impossible for a cat to overdose on L-lysine as it is water soluble and what is not used is peed out right away.And, the treatment will probably need to be given for life,for the same reason. It works only when you give it, and it must be given every 12 hours (twice a day). Lysine supplements also come in a variety of products formulated as treats, paste, powder, tablets and chews, so it’s easier for cats to take, too,but I have always used the 500 mg capsules. * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* -- Forwarded message -- From: Rachel Raven kandyrac...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:06:24 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine My vet has a pharmacy mix up a cat suitable dosage of liquid L-Lysine (with fish flavoring). It is quite expensive and I always have some left over. I was wondering if anyone knows if this stuff can still be used after the use by date or not? Also I've seen in health food stores lysine capsules. I was wondering if anyone uses that for their cat and in what dosage? Or if anyone knows if that would be something that could be done? I figured it would probably be okay if the conversions were right but since the mix I get from the pharmacy also contains some sort of fish flavor that may change the ml so I don't know. Thank you for any help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
You could also use the natural remedies found on holisticat.com. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: I use the Walmart Equate brand of Athlete’s Foot cream it is 1% Clotrimazole and has always worked for my cats, have used it many times. Just apply a couple of times a day, no mess, no smell and it is cheap. If they have quite a lot of ringworm, I woiuld also bathe them with Nizoral shampoo, not to expensive and available in the dandruff shampoo area at Walmart. Gary *From:* Elizabeth Ann Bodden elizab...@toonces.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:16 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* [Felvtalk] ringworm Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster a bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, then foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% (and as high as 99%) of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation. No Kill Quick Facts: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=11718 Here's the current growing list of communities saving 90% or more of their shelter intake: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar). Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' page for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
