Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be spending their remaining years in cages?? On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their future up in the air. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
What becomes of these FelV cats you foster? Do you do like I do and just keep them until they die or have to be euthanized? I lost three FelV kittens in 2 months and it was heartbreaking. Now the last of this litter just turned one year old and she seems fine, but I watch her every day and never know how long I'll have her. I have several others who were exposed or actively have the virus, but they are still doing fine, but I look at them every day and wonder how long I'll have them. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] For Chang......Cat dying at home
I also wonder why this indoor cat suddenly became FelV positive We all hope our cats will die peacefully at home, but sometimes we know they are suffering. With Anemia they slowly suffocate from lack of oxygen, and all their vital organs shut down from lack or red blood It is not a pleasant way to go. Plus this cat is 16 years old and has had a good life so far.. I would not prolong her life. Lorrie On 04-25, WESTNINTHST wrote: Don't know if u recd this earlier.I don't understand why your cat sud be felv??? Also if she leaving you let her go when she is ready in her own home. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Treatments for FelV cats.
I have a FelV shelter. Among my many cats I took in a litter of 6 kittens 4 years ago. All were FelV positive but one, Weegie. He has tested neg. several times and never contracted the virus from his mother as his siblings did.. They are all dead now, and he is over four years old and just fine. I have always wondered if a blood transfusion from a cat like Weegie would help another cat with FelV recover. Obviously he has either a very strong immune system or he is immune to the FelV virus. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
One actually did get adopted last year, but mostly they just stay with me until they pass away. Beth Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What becomes of these FelV cats you foster? Do you do like I do and just keep them until they die or have to be euthanized? I lost three FelV kittens in 2 months and it was heartbreaking. Now the last of this litter just turned one year old and she seems fine, but I watch her every day and never know how long I'll have her. I have several others who were exposed or actively have the virus, but they are still doing fine, but I look at them every day and wonder how long I'll have them. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be spending their remaining years in cages?? On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their future up in the air. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] For Chang......Cat dying at home
-Original Message- From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Sent: Apr 27, 2013 1:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] For Chang..Cat dying at home I also wonder why this indoor cat suddenly became FelV positive I've been wrestling with this. My + boy has been here since Jan of 2012, and tested negative before I integrated him into one of my cat groups. After a very stressful bout with FLUTD and catherization, he just never recovered. Bloodwork eventually showed a very low WBC count, and a subsequent SNAP was positive for FeLV, neg for FIV. So, now I've exposed all those cats who live with him. I've been trying to figure it out, and here's one excerpt that helped my begin to understand. I've also included the link to the whole article, but here is the relevant paragraph. It’s the apparent incidence of regressive FeLV infection that will continue to challenge all of us…ie, what are the clinical consequences of latency in a SNAP negative, healthy cat. Based on information available today, the odds favor the cat…there is a good chance the cat will remain healthy, may eventually clear the proviral DNA, and they are NOT shedding FeLV as long as the virus remains as proviral DNA (latent). Some, however, don’t do as well…a small number of regressive infections will re-activate…this is the adult cat…with a history of having been healthy and FeLV negative for some time (years even). And despite the fact they may have never encountered another cat throughout life…they appear to develop disease spontaneously and may become progressive (IFA or SNAP positive, sick cat)…or…they may develop complications of their infection, including solid tumors (FeLV is an oncogenic retrovirus)…and may become IFA or SNAP negative! Here's a link to the complete article; http://www.fvmace.org/FVMA_83rd_Annual_Conference/Proceedings/PDFS/2012%20FeLV%20%20FIV.pdf It's really discouraged me. Makes me think it's probable that all my new cats (those acquired since my move here in 2006) were once infected, and possibly latent. They've all come from this neighborhood. Right now I have one that has to become a housecat, but has been an outside cat all his 4 years. He's tested negative, and I've arranged for him to get the rFeLV vaccine, but is there any point? I just don't know. I'm very interewsted in what others think. This is all new to me. In 30+ years of rescue, I've never had a cat test positive for FeLV. Still trying to get my head around this. Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering
Lee, It's very encouraging that you've had three adults with FelV throw off the virus. I've never been that fortunate, and having these FelV cats and kittens with a death sentence is absolutely devastating to me. I am the same as you said you were much too emotional. As I may have written previously, the only miracle I had was with a litter of 6 kittens who were all FelV pos. except for one. I still have Weegie (4 years old now, and he's been retested twice and never got the virus, while all his siblings died years ago. Lorrie On 04-23, Lee Evans wrote: I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - CW Rustic Hollow. I've visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be spending their remaining years in cages?? On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their future up in the air. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - CW Rustic Hollow. I've visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
